Rollback RX v10.x (Home & Professional)

How do you know that eazsolutions is the original developer of Rollback (or Eazy Fix) ? I do not buy it...

AFAIK HDS and eazsolutions are one and the same company acting under different company names. The activation server for Rollback up to this day is still eazsolutions.com. And when I compared the available products from HDS and eazsolutions in the past, eazsolutions might have been cheaper, but they were always several versions behind HDS. I believe that the original code base for Rollback and all its siblings originates somewhere in China, and at some point it was licensed to several other companies (Comodo among them), but HDS / eazsolutions was the only company which was actually able to actively maintain the code base.

But we are getting off topic. I was wondering if someone (preferably Froggie who was a beta tester) has tested the release version of Drive Cloner 6 yet. Because the latest beta version still had a lot of issues, and I'd like to know if these issues have been fixed for the release version.


Cheers
manolito

 

Feel free to "buy" whatever you want.

They are not... Horizon is a reseller and that is the reason that the activation server is eazsolutions.com.

As for eazsolutions products being several version behind HDS... either you never downloaded from eazsolutions or you were daydreaming. Eazsolutions Eazyfix and baselineshield get updated 2-3 times in a month or at least they used to, until last year.

As for originating in china... as I said you are free to believe whatever you want...

Panagiotis

 

Please compare the current download offerings from HDS and eazsolutions:

HDS Drive Cloner v. 6
eazsolutions Eazy Image v. 5

HDS Rollback RX v.10.3 latest file dates from August 24th 2015
eazsolutions EazFix v. 10.4 latest file dates from June 9th 2015

So who is daydreaming here?


Cheers
manolito

 

Do I really need to answer that?

RollBack Rx v10.3 Build: 2700482570 date released 09 Jun 2015
Eazy Fix v10.4 Build 2700486666 date released 09 Jun 2015
RollBack Rx v10.3 Build: 2700650506 date released 24 Aug 2015
...just a guess but has it passed your mind that Easy Fix 270048666 did not have the critical bugs of Rollback RX build 2700482570 and did not need to be updated?

and by the way the developer of Drive Cloner and easy Image, at least until version 5 was http://www.keriver.com/ and not horizondatasys or eazsolutions. Don't know if that changed with 6.

Panagiotis

 

This is a very wild guess considering that the latest HDS version is almost 3 months younger...

This changed a long time ago. The latest version of Keriver Image is from 2012. Obviously HDS licensed the code from Keriver and updated/improved it for their needs.


But still, this exchange is getting boring. Back to my original question: Has anyone (I prefer Froggie) tested the new stable version of Drive Cloner 6 ? Is it any better than the last beta version?


Cheers
manolito

 

Well, one would certainly hope that its better than the beta, after all, it is an official release. Personally I would not trust it given whose who are behind it but,,,,,,,,,,,,,

Why don't you simply test it yourself?

 

Hi all! Just finishing up a biking trip in the old E. Germany. Will be back on Tuesday and run a test for all.

At the middle (end?) Of the Beta there were still appx. 7 outstanding issues. Communications completely stopped with the devs at that time (they never really started). Hope it's better now...

 

Riding with your Harley to the sunset?

I am also interested on your test since my new laptop has SSHD.
If everything works smoothly, I'm willing to give another go for RX+DI ..
Well,I never tested Drive Image, so I am curious about it and RX..

 

I wish...

Stode... that's Drive Cloner (you don't want to associate it with a good product like Drive Image ). Turns out I won't be able to get my hands on the latest versions (with licenses) until after the 28th when the HDS "gift" mgr returns from his honeymoon. If I get some time before then I may give the TRIALs a shot.

One thing you need to be aware of with Drive Cloner... during a restoration process, the only accurate information it offered as far as your TARGET disks was the Manufacturer's Part #... no LABELs and no correct letter designations (i.e., C:\). As a result, if the user doesn't know that information (and very few, if any, do) he/she may wind up restoring the image to the wrong disk. This happened during the BETA to one of our resident imaging specialists, Brian_K, and he wound up destroying his second internal DATA disk rather than properly restoring the System image he was working with (both disks were the same size and Manufacturer with different Part #s). Luckily he had a backup (as all testers should have )...

PS- Stode, I don't think that SSHD will help in any way with Rollback or an imaging operation. Their NAND caches are too small to really help with imaging and Rollback's method for snapshotting (REDIRECT on WRITE) is designed to be really quick at the disk level to begin with.

It will help with BOOTing (which I'm sure you've already discovered) and a reasonably small set of applications that are in constant use.

 

My bad..
I meant Drive Cloner all the way.

Not displaying even the drive names sounds really bad..
Atleast I know now that I will disconnect my usb hub with 7 usb drives, if and when, I'm going to try it..
Thanks for the heads up.

 

Although this major anomaly was brought up during the BETA, since there was absolutely no feedback from the developer and the entire process left the BETA without our knowledge (the BLACK HOLE I was referring to in an earlier post) and was released to the public... I have no idea whether it was ever dealt with.

I'll know better when I retest...

 

@Froggie:
Did you have the chance yet to test Drive Cloner (the non BETA) with some RX snapshots?
The trial should be fully functional to do the test.

 

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Seems like there is the "update" log:


Drive Cloner Rx v6.0 - Updated September 4, 2014
Build #: 2700575557


What's New:

• Added the ability to backup Rollback Rx snapshots on a "Full Backup".
• Supporting external hard drive with 4TB.
• Fixed restoring issue with "Improper shutdown" message.
• Fixed image display and shutdown bug.
• Fixed "chkdsk after restoring backup image" problem.

 

My other laptop broke down, what with I was suppose to test it..
I'm not gonna risk my one and only one,since I work with this too.
Maybe in VM ...

 

@TheRollbackFrog

What snapshot software do you recommend for Win10/SSD (is your critique on RollBackx free still valid, have they improved)?

Thx

 

All current snapshot software, using REDIRECT ON WRITE technology (Rollback RX and all of its clones), IMHO, are questionable and risky in their use (see the "unOfishul FAQ" for the "gotchas involved).

Rollback RX, in particular, is not W10 READY yet. Originally, at end of July 2016, HDS said not until end of January 2016. Recently, due to sizable pressure from their User Community, they have brought that date back to mid-October 2015. Your guess is as good as mine as to whether they'll deliver or not.

Specifically, regardless of claims by HDS, Rollback RX has been shown to not be able to properly TRIM SSDs while under Rollback's protection. I have demonstrated this fact directly to HDS as well as many other users, but the "word smithing" of their SSD TRIM capability claims continue to obfuscate the fact that it DOES NOT WORK properly with SSDs. Being so adamant about this claim of TRIM operability, I suspect that this shortcoming will not be remedied when either the v10.x W10 upgrade supposedly appears this month, or when v11 supposedly appears in January 2016.

Of late, some interesting products have arrived on the scene using the standard COPY ON WRITE technology in use by imaging sioftware for many years. The difference being where imaging solutions have always restored the entire FileSystem upon time line restoration in the past, this new breed is restoring ONLY THE DIFFERENCES between the current system state at the time of the restoration and the time point being returned to. This restoration is much quicker than original methods, mainly due to a much smaller amount of data actually being restored to the surface of the disk. Although this type of restoration can never be quite as speedy as the Rollback method, if the restored time points are close to the current system state, the restoration process is really quite quick (a few minutes vs 60-sec). An added capability resides in the basic design of this software... it also images (and fully disaster protects) your system, something Rollback has never been able to accomplish on its own.

Currently there are (2) products (maybe a few more but with limitations) that reside in this arena... AX64 TIME MACHINE and Macrium REFLECT. AX64 has been in development since Jan 2013 when first offered to the public for BETA testing. It has meandered along, providing at least two different versions, since that time. It's never really been a solid released product but has improved, somewhat (up for debate, I'm sure), over that period. The current Private BETA edition has dealt with many restoration bugs and appears to be a bit better than previous iterations.

Macrium REFLECT was released in the 1st quarter of 2015 and has proven itself to be very reliable in its update iterations to date. Along with its almost fully programmable scheduling offerings, it provides a brand new feature known as RAPID DATA RESTORE. It's this feature that does the DIFFERENCE restorations as described above. I was part of the original "unOfishul" Wilders BETA effort (caused by a Snowden-type leak of the ALPHA version being tested in-house) and have found this product to be excellent in its capability, its engineering and its Product Support. It has become my go-to System imaging application as well as my primary SNAPSHOT mechanism... although I do separate those two functions using individual scheduling schema.

With Rollback RX, I still do some occasional testing and I continue to support various clients who continue to use it (against my personal recommendations). Someday, this application may actually work well, but its design considerations are what makes it so vulnerable in the world of Windows, and the HDS committment to being honest with its users has really put me off over the years... I'm not sure they really care about their user base.

 

@TheRollbackFrog and @Peter2150

I am using syncback for quick backup to 2nd HD and run a two generation full data backup to NAS (by simply switching backup drives to another location every week). I will only use it for image backup, so will give Macrium a try thx, answers appreciated

 

ANyone know if rollback rx is safe on win 10 64bit? Ever since I moved to win 10 I have not used it. Does it work fine and problem free?

 

Hey folks!

1. @manolito - EAZ Solution is a partner! Well, more of a sister company to us, as we share staff and resources (you've mentioned the license server, and we also do share support staff, for example). Both HDS and EAZ Solutions are partially owned by the lead developer and creator of the softwares, who is based in Texas. For those more into the history of how the software got started (as it seems to be a topic of interest!), it was masterminded by the very same lead developer and creator back in his college days out in Cali.

2. Drive Cloner is an original program by the same lead developer. Keriver was an OEM partner of ours that discontinued a few years ago.

Any technical questions/concerns that you want answered are best left to our Community Forum or by going to support.horizondatasys.com and submitting a ticket.

Sounds like a great trip @TheRollbackFrog !

Cheers!

 

Not yet! Windows 10 compatible build looking good for a Friday (Oct. 9) release.

 

Good to know, have a new unused Rollback RX Professional license ready to install on Windows 10