Windows 10 Announced - Released 29-Jul-2015

Metro on a desktop or laptop makes me feel like I'm on a tablet or phone... To me it represents less power and less control over things. And visually it stunningly simple, in a negative kinda way. I guess I just don't like it, and I think the majority of the public sees it that way too, based on the reception 8 got this past year or two.

But yeah, we have been down this road, true. To each his own, right?

I am just trying to decide if 10 will actually be a truly clean/bug free/well done OS at it's core, and if it's something I want to live with and watch evolve... So far I'm leaning towards keeping 7... But the next few months should be interesting, to say the least!

 

One thing I've played with in the last year is OS on GPT disks. For those buying a computer with Win8, or soon Win10, the OS will be installed on a GPT disk. It's not as frightening as I first imagined. Image backup/restore is only slightly different but independent multi-booting is quite different from a MBR disk. With a GPT disk I can't multi-boot using my favourite software, BootIt BM. So Win10 on my main computer will be installed in MBR mode.

 

My excitement regarding Windows 10 is dwindling. Upgraded to build 10162. I run Windows in a virtual machine so my testing is being done in one. A few build around 10130 ago Windows 10 a flickering, disappearing of sections, the whole windows and the reappearing again. It getting increasingly getting worse. Anyone else seeing this?

This is virtual machine running Windows Tech Preview build 10162, in VirtualBox 4.3.28-100309 on a Slackware64-current host. I run Windows 7 Home Pro in a similar setup virtual machine and have no issues at all.

 

How To Remove Watermark From Windows 10 Desktop

Free Windows 10 eBook from Microsoft: Learn Windows 10 and its features

 

Speed and DirectX12 (if that'll even be used much)

The modern apps are the same, just with a touch-friendly UI and some consistency across them.

You can use the Win-7-like Start menu or you could use the Win8 Start screen, so it's more like Windows 7.5.

Last Microsoft announcement I read is that our Win7/8 keys get absorbed into the upgrade; I infer that the old keys will no longer work, burning that bridge.

I loathed Win8 and didn't run it; I am liking 10.

 

My experience with linux displays is that they are sloooow by comparison, even with nVidia drivers. I ran Win10 in VirtualBox 4.x and 5 beta on a Win7 host and it was solid. Eventually, I just put 10 on the host (slow ring) and run 10 in Hyper-V (fast ring).

 

Don't get me wrong, I would also like to turn it off completely, but on the other hand, in Win 8.1 it's at least totally separated from the desktop, so it doesn't bother me that much.

This sounds dumb to me, they should just continue with the current naming scheme, I would like to see a Win 11 and 12.

 

I haven't actually tried Win 10 yet, but this sounds very worrying to me, looks like they have chosen the wrong path.

 

The wrong path is what bothers me most... it seems they're sticking to their "vision" whether anyone likes it or not.

I'll stick with Win 7 or Linux...

 

They did the same when they introduced Windows as a GUI OS to replace DOS, or Office as a GUI application to replace Lotus and WordPerfect. And they succeeded.

 

I don't think the analogy is a good one. They're blindly going down their own road even though the vast majority of the public thinks is inappropriate and even dislikes it. That's unfortunately what a monopoly can do....

 

I actually got to liking 8.1 to some extent.. and I do think they did a better job of integrating the 2 worlds in 10. What really worries me most is the bugs and problems I've seen in the insider previews, even in the latest 10162. At this point in time, the latest build ought to be just about perfect and trouble-free, no bugs, clean, etc. It isn't. I've also seen wildly different results upgrading from build to build, which makes me wonder how well the upgrade from 7 or 8.1 to 10 will go. I'm not confident in it at all. All in all, just leads me to take a wait and see attitude at this time...

 

Upgrades = problems. Clean install after your burn your ISO.

The brochure @ArchiveX linked is a good one to point out some of Win10's UI enhancements.

I don't buy their "last windows version" spiel and it was a very foolish thing to say. To say that means that they will never, ever make any major/architecture changes that would alter compatibility. (Unless the alternative is that a forced update will break a bunch of stuff.)

M$ went down the wrong path by dropping the ball with the mobile/portable market. They should have stolen off of Apple again, heh.

The went down the wrong path with Win8. I mean really wrong...and Win7 outselling Win8 even a year after Win8's release tells you it was a failure and, finally, just this month, Win8 beat xp! cf. http://www.cnet.com/news/windows-88-1-use-beats-xp-for-first-time-ever/

Hopefully, M$ gained enough humility to know that they don't know what users want better than the user...anymore (sure, it worked 30 years ago)

 

Did a clean install of build 10162 and lo and behold, the first 3 Win Updates failed right off, out of the gate. Sorry, but this should never happen this close to final. Still have problems dis-engaging my external usb drive, it won't close files or let go somehow, takes 4 or 5 repeated tries, never had this problem in Win 7 or 8.1. Other less obvious little bugs here and there. Edge is totally useless for full screen hd video, sluggish/slow and choppy, it just doesn't work. No adblocker for Edge either, so it basically just isn't usable. Still way to many rough edges for being 1 week away from RTM.

 

I said about a month or two ago, that the whole Win10 bombardment is a total hype; I say it again today that Win10 RTM will be a total joke/beta/unpolished/half-baked disaster, if Microsoft insists releasing it this month. There will be tons of complaints. Mark my word.

 

hi
did somebody do some benchamark ?
it seems they have improved the kernel compared to w8.1 (that's is faster the w7)
i'm playing with w10 seems very light and fast , just my opition

 

Thanks for the input. I really don't have a lot of slowness issues with Linux. My son and I play Steam games with no issues. Windows 10 must be doing something different, as Windows 7 has no issues running in a virtual machine.

 

Which is why I plan to wait a while before downloading.

 

I agree, I don't get why they are still trying to push the Metro apps and interface on the desktop. Another thing is, will security tools be able to control these apps, I'm a bit worried about this.

 

Installed W10 on my other partition. Now it's sitting on "Just a moment" for over 15 minutes. It's that ok?

 

I've got a question. I've got the 'get win10' thing, and I probably will after a few months. I'm running Win 7 Pro on an HP 355 G2 laptop with 8G Ram. I know that's plenty and windows says I'm good to go except for Bluetooth which I've never used anyway.

The question: The computer came with a recovery partition containing Win 7 Pro. If I upgrade, I think that won't be touched, not sure. If after a month or two I find out that Win 10 sucks, can the recovery partition be used to restore back to a fresh install of Win 7? I plan to do the upgrade because, well, I'm lazy and would rather not have to reinstall all my programs.

 

Good question. I thought I read somewhere that an OEM Windows 7 recovery partition wouldn't work after upgrading to Windows 10, but now I can't find it. Hopefully someone can link to some solid information about it.

 

I just created a dual boot with windows 10 and i had this issue as well. I ended up forcing a reboot and everything seems to be working fine.

 

Yep, on that, you and I are in 100% agreement...

 

Yeah, I don't know. I'm still worried that they're going to slowly take out more stuff, important stuff like Computer Management or Disk Management etc that give us some control over things. They keep dumbing it down and removing things people like...