AppGuard 4.x 32/64 Bit - Releases

Discussion in 'other anti-malware software' started by Jryder54, Oct 29, 2013.

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  1. Peter2150

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    The problem is the clinkonce install. Blueridge was told by Microsoft they aren't going forward with it. It was a strange thing anyway on MS's part. Why design the OS with Program Files, and then install in Appdata.

    But other than this Appguard works fine. I run it along with ERP so there are options.
     
  2. syrinx

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    Just another example of a company not practicing the rules they preach. Though my original 'suggestion' would encompass this I still think it'd better to start off with AG only allowing this through system space (perhaps in a future beta) then moving on to user space later to allow more testing. Maybe just an idea for the 5.x beta versions? I love AppGuard and don't want to open up any hole just because *I* can't think of anything atm. There are plenty of ppl out there smarter than me. (I ain't a brainiac yo)
     
  3. Peter2150

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    Which company are you saying doesn't practice what they preach?
     
  4. syrinx

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    MS with their software best practices! Yet another example of do what we say, not we do jazz.
     
  5. Peter2150

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    Okay. Well the king never had to obey his rules. But in this case it kinda made sense. Reason being was when software was updated the developer didn't have to make a whole new package he could just download the updated pieces. Same for the user, didn't need a completely new package etc.

    Sounds like it didn't work out that well.
     
  6. syrinx

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    As far as ease of use goes, it's not a bad setup for MS to try. Considering the malware that might try to take advantage of it however it's no wonder they abandoned it. (Communicate much internally MS?) but if they used something similar to AG with a few modifications it wouldn't be a bad idea. I see AG as a cross between UAC and AppLocker with a few twists and think AG's adaptation is brilliantly simple...MS should license it from them and integrate it into Win10 but that's just my opinion.

    This isn't the first time I've seen MS go against their guidelines tho it does make sense 'in this case'. There are plenty of 'good' apps out there that don't follow such guidelines to begin with though and so I think a slight adaptation on AG's part would help resolve many user issues. I'm still not certain my example of the 3 checks would solve everything but it might be a starting base. Every check I suggested is pretty much already available in AG, it'd just need a slight reworking of the checks and when they are used. Still not something you'd want to try on a 'minor' version change and chances are I missed something that will make everything I said moot anyhow.

    *Edit: oh yeah I almost forgot, the sbie icons still stink :p...suddenly even I'm growing tired of this joke, maybe it's just because you say don't care though? arrgh =(
     
  7. BoerenkoolMetWorst

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    I'm not sure if after an upgrade of Opera the new executables in the new version folder are automatically added, but Opera uses launcher.exe in C:\Program Files (x86)\Opera as a parent process, so Guarding that is enough to Guard all the opera.exe's in the version specific folders.
     
  8. bjm_

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    Happened upon a program that won't install with Medium. No Icon blinking. Does the Icon blink at Medium. I forget about AG as being so quiet. I forgot to drop to Install and scratched my head for a few :oops: before I remembered. Any reason Icon doesn't blink at Medium.
     
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    It depends on your alert settings. Also, was the installer signed?
     
  10. bjm_

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    Alerts are at default Blink for Blocked Launches and don't know re Signature...so, does Medium blink to indicate I need Install for an Installer.
    Update: Program has Digital Signature
     
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  11. Cutting_Edgetech

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    If the installer is signed then AG will allow it to execute guarded, but it will most likely block some functionality needed by the installer to install successfully. Guarded execution events is not ticked by default. You need to tick guarded execution events so AG will blink.
     
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    Done...Thanks
    Update: I can see why Guarded Execution Events is not ticked by default.
     
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    On a W7HP x64 machine, how would one handle IE 10 in AG... with specific attention to Ghostery / Last Pass addons that are installed onto Windows?
    Both Last Pass and Ghostery install to Program Files (x86)...
     
  15. syrinx

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    I don't have much experience with IE (I avoid it like a plague) but my understanding is that with IE guarded by default you shouldn't have to worry specifically about the addons with AG as they would be considered children of IE at the most (and guarded anyhow), but are likely not even separate processes to begin with so are included within the IE protections. This is of course guess-work atm so maybe someone will correct me if these IE addons work differently and extra steps are needed?
     
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    AppGuard 4.2.8.1 now Final is ready for download and update.
     
  17. Krond

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    Link for download? I´ve to reinstall after new Windows-Installation, but the links I´ve used before are dead, I think?
     
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    New build running fine on vista 32 bit and windows 7 64 bit
     
  20. Krond

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    Thanks siketa
     
  21. Cutting_Edgetech

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    Barb, is there any difference in the final release of 4.2, and beta 4.2.8.1?
     
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    I am pretty sure there's no difference at all as the current installer and that beta 4.2.8.1 installer package, both have same SHA-1: 794aae6986328b9521d9d9b3dd3f56d52e8b2ca4
     
  23. Cutting_Edgetech

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    If the checksum is the same there should be no difference. Thank You!
     
  24. Mr.X

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    No problem.
    The only thing I don't get is why BRN (Barb_C) hasn't notified about this.
     
  25. Peter2150

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    I think she is quite busy. Under the scheduling gun.

    Pete
     
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