Windows 10 Announced - Released 29-Jul-2015

Discussion in 'other software & services' started by ronjor, Sep 30, 2014.

  1. NormanF

    NormanF Registered Member

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    It looks like going in the right direction.... it a glide path from Windows 7 so the learning curve should be familiar.

    Microsoft was the butt joke of all the YouTube videos of Windows 8, which showed people frustrated and confused over Windows 8 - a PR disaster for the company.

    Windows 8 wasn't designed right, didn't feel right and didn't work right.

    Windows 10 feels like it belongs on a PC but there's a lot more work to be done before its finally ready for prime time.
     
  2. Brian K

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    I doubt you will be able to upgrade from the beta to the RTM. You will need a fresh install which makes sense.

    Yes, on three computers. It is stable. I've tried it in MBR and UEFI modes, upgrades and clean installs. Cleans installs of a new build take less time than upgrades. An upgrade still has to download over 3 GB of data.
     
  3. siljaline

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    While I'll I've not played with Win 10 TP (TP being Technical Preview) where it's at now - from what I'm reading, it's not ready for prime time just yet. MS needs to fill in some missing pieces before moving forward to the next level.

    The Register wrote a scathing review the other day that got many folks quite upset - present company included.
    http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/01/29/windows_10_preview/
     
  4. Mrkvonic

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    Wait for mine in a couple of days, then :)
    Mrk
     
  5. NormanF

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    Considering the price tag, there is nothing to complain about.

    I suspect though you want to get your hands on the Consumer Preview.

    That's the one aimed at the masses.
     
  6. NormanF

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    Its not even an alpha or a beta and not too much should be read into it. Its not a complete operating system yet. But Microsoft's break from the in-house proprietary development model makes a lot of sense. User feedback will help Redmond avoid many of the mistakes that marred Windows 8.
     
  7. siljaline

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    You'd have to argue those points with those that are reporting the developments of Win 10 TP in real-time as the builds are provided to them by MS. It may be still in a pre-release mode but from what I'm reading, things are not tracking along as well as was originally expected.

    Again - I'm not one of those testing Win 10 TP.
     
  8. roger_m

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    I've been running Windows 10 Technical Preview for a while now, since doing an upgrade install from Windows 7 on the laptop I use daily, leaving me with only Windows 10 to use. I'm reasonably happy with Windows 10 so far. On the whole I like the design of Windows 10 and have no major compaints there. However, there are a few issues which need to be fixed, which is why I said I'm "reasonably happy."

    I will detail the issues below. But first, I must point out that I'm confident these issues will be fixed in future builds of Windows 10. Also, because this is such an early release of Windows 10, a lot of security software is not compaible yet. Major antiviruses and security suites are blocked by Windows due to incompatibility issues, but it is still possible to get them to install if you really want. Less used security software often will install without issues, but some simply won't work properly under Windows 10. While they may install and launch, scans may not work.

    Here are the major issues I face:
    When using the wireless driver Windows installed, when I resume from sleep my wifi won't reconnect, and the only fix is to disable and then re-enable my wifi adapter using Device Manager. With some networks I don't always have this issue, but I do with my wifi at home. If I update to the most recent driver (which is several years old, but a few months newer than the one from Windows Update), not only do I still have the connectivity issue. But, to make matter worse, I need to reboot after I re-enable the wifi adapter. As a result, I removed the driver with Device Manager, and then let Windows find and install the older driver again.

    Also, with my built in Intel wifi, I have major DPC latency issues. I can remedy this by using an external USB wifi adapter and disabling the internal one.

    Some Windows services are using more CPU use than they should at times, leading to drops in performance. The Windows Update service is reguarly using CPU time and can slow down my computer. To fix this I have a batch file on my desktop I've made to stop and disable the Windows Update service. When I want to check for updates, I have another batch file which enables the WU service and then launches Windows Update.

    After upgrading to build 9926, a service related to updating the Start menu tiles, was constantly using abojut 27% CPU use. I was not able to disable the service via services.msc, so delete its entry from the registry. This fixed the CPU issue, and left me with a start menu that was crashing when launched to start with, and is now not working at all. So, right now I have no start menu. This is annoying, but I can live with it and am now lauching programs without shortcuts from the command prompt.

    The above, is why you should not replace you primary OS with the preview of Windows 10, unless like me you can live with problems.
     
  9. NormanF

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    If you don't have a production machine, its fine to run Windows 10 for testing but its not recommended for computers on which you have critical data.

    On those keep your primary OS.
     
  10. ronjor

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    http://blogs.msdn.com/b/ie/archive/...g-support-for-hls-and-dash-in-windows-10.aspx
     
  11. mantra

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    hi Brian
    bios legacy what's the meaning? that's what i got it msinf32
    but in the motherboard i can find "fast boot " direct boot "secure boot" and other option

    thanks
     
  12. Mrkvonic

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    Windows 10 Preview Build 9926 - Awesome and horrible

    Everything you wanted to know about Windows 10, and never dared ask. This is a super long and detailed review of Windows 10 Preview Build 9926, covering download and installation, new desktop, integrated search with online account integration and Cortana voice search assistant, new system menu, system settings and notifications, Metro applications, Store, Xbox, Spartan, battery life, new Windows Explorer and issues related to access to network shares, various problems related to Cortana, Bing, microphone, privacy settings, Classic shell blacklisting and solution, a serious warning on potential future disaster due to inefficient search, and more. Enjoy.

    http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/windows-10-preview-build-9926.html


    Cheers,
    Mrk
     
  13. Victek

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    "Awesome and horrible" Love it! will take some time to properly read it later today. Must say that nothing will surpass the honest destruction you rained down upon Windows 8 :)
     
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    I am surprised that there has hardly been any talk anywhere on the net about the firewall or the system image ability since this W10 thingy began . Are they actually going to keep it in the state it is functioning now , 2 things that are the cause of much aggravation over the years . If you release a new Os based on an old one you of course have to do basic research about the old one and improve its abilities and especially those with flaws .

    In my point of view they are only painting a pig now to make it look nicer but it is still a pig , with a few exceptions .
     
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    I guess I misunderstood, I didn't know it was a completely new browser. But I've just read that IE12 will also use the new Spartan engine (a fork of Trident), so in the end it doesn't matter. And like I already said, some of the stuff that the developers team is focused on, may be exciting to some people, but I care more about other stuff, like fixing the annoyances of Win 8.
     
  16. Victek

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    Can you describe and/or link to the firewall and system imaging issues?
     
  17. Brian K

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    mantra,

    Most computers with UEFI firmware allow you to install an OS in UEFI mode or MBR (Legacy) mode. You installed your OS in Legacy mode, but that's not a problem. Nothing needs to be changed. Some reading for you...

    https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/hardware/dn640535(v=vs.85).aspx

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GUID_Partition_Table

    http://www.eightforums.com/tutorial...e-firmware-interface-install-windows-8-a.html
     
  18. Brian K

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    Mrk,

    I enjoyed your article. Balanced. You said....

    I could get my old username back and I think we used the same method. I used...

    Control Panel, User Accounts,
    Make changes to my account in PC settings,
    Disconnect,
    Switch to a local account,
    password for my old Local account,
    Sign out and finish,
    Sign in

    I note you used a Win10 upgrade and I did too. (not a fresh 9926 install) My install was in MBR mode. Was your Win10 installed in MBR or UEFI mode?
     
  19. Mrkvonic

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    Brian, that's probably because my online account and the local one have the same name.
    The test machine only has standard BIOS, no UEFI, so that was my only option.
    Mrk
     
  20. Brian K

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    Mrk,

    That makes sense. I wondered about your Microsoft account name because my Microsoft account name is an email address. I chose a Yandex email account.
     
  21. Kerodo

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    I finally broke down and just installed 10 TP today. At first glance, I'm reasonably happy and impressed, but that's just after a half hour of looking around. It'll be interesting to explore for a while. But my first impression is fairly good, which surprises me a bit...
     
  22. mantra

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    hi Brian
    my bios is setup with secure mode ->windows 7 but i can boot with a linux disto it's weird
     
  23. Rasheed187

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    I've quickly read it, and it confirms what I already thought, nothing special at all. That doesn't mean it sucks, I will most likely upgrade a couple months after launch.
     
  24. siljaline

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  25. Brian K

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    mantra,

    Try booting a Win8 UFD or an IFL UFD or a recent Ubuntu UFD. In the Boot Menu do you see two options to boot the UFD?

    USB
    UEFI USB
     
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