Tor exit node operator prosecuted in Austria

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  1. lotuseclat79

    lotuseclat79 Registered Member

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    Tor exit node operator prosecuted in Austria.

    -- Tom
     
  2. Veeshush

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    I guess I wouldn't run an open router in Austria any time soon too. o_O
     
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    I wouldn't do it anywhere. I'm not taking the fall for someone elses crap, not even in the name of freedom. Yet more reasons to stay off of TOR.
     
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    Truly disturbing, though not unexpected considering the direction our society is heading...
     
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    From 7 Things You Should Know About Tor:
     
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    Until running an exit becomes illegal, mine will stay up. Running an exit is one of the few things I can do to oppose this growing surveillance state. If we're going to quit just because of possible harassment, we might as well become sheep.
     
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    ? Your last sentence does not make sense. What does the operator of an exit node being prosecuted have to do with your use of Tor? How/why would that suggest you should not use the network?
     
  9. Tipsy

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    https://network23.org/blackoutaustria/2014/07/01/to-whom-it-may-concern-english-version/

    More informations needed about this case.
    Anyone know about the particular judge in this case? Was just his simple reading of the law - maybe he does not understand techie stuff?
    Or was he making a political statement, maybe purposeful trying to frighten legitimate uses of Tor and free speech IT?
     
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    Could such ruling also apply for even VPN operators? To the court, what is difference between Tor exit node operator and VPN operator?
     
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    https://lists.torproject.org/pipermail/tor-talk/2014-July/033613.html

    Is this the case (below)?
    If so, this is not sudden news. Why the Tor community not more active about it earlier?
    Why wait until bad ruling to start to organise?

    http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/...-for-child-porn-transmitted-over-his-servers/
     
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    You know, sometimes I really do wonder if those laws are mainly in place, or at least taken advantage of, due to the side effect of shutting down tor related things. The whole EgotisticalGiraffe thing shut down a ton of other things hosted on Freedom Hosting, like Tor Mail.

    Almost like George Carlin would say- "Politicians always hide behind 3 things. The flag, the bible, and our children." (and I think that goes for a lot of countries) Which do not mistake me saying those laws should be removed- no, but they shouldn't be after people running Tor relays, nor should they make people fearful that if they run a relay they're going to have their lives destroyed.
     
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    So, the next question might be: When will all the phone company and ISP execs be picked up in Austria? That Exit Node had to have at least one connection to the Internet...
     
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    This isn't the first time this happened. It happened back in Dec of 2012. Someone was charged for distributing CP, just because cp was flooding out of his exit node. Even though the exit node operator wasn't posting CP, police interpreted that he was posting CP, but the CP was posted by people other than exit node operator. The moral of the story is that you shouldn't be running an exit node in certain countries.
     
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    https://rdns.im/court-official-statement-part-1
     
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    Yeah as touched on in the above post, apparently it wasn't an attack against Tor use or running a node...

    https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2014/07/the_war_against.html#c6674626
     
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