Can anyone get to avast forum today?

Discussion in 'other anti-virus software' started by act8192, May 24, 2014.

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  1. RejZoR

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    Why people constantly think i'm some die hard fanboy who's defending avast! to death for everything and anything just because i'm a regular on their forums and support page? Of course i'm going to defend it where people make some idiotic clueless conclusions that avast! (or any other company for that matter) doesn't deserve? Go out of this thread for all i care, but my comment still stands. You don't know me enough to mark me as a fanboy or whatever similar. I'm probably the most critical to avast! in the last few years, far more than any other user. And there are several complaints on forums and support page to back that statement up. I've even complained about several things here on Wilders. But ultimately, in the end it's their decision, because i just state an opinion and it's up to them to incorporate it. In the past years they have taken many of my ideas and recommendations and add them into the avast!. Not so much lately...

    Go on, read my blog entry that i've just wrote:
    http://rejzor.wordpress.com/2014/05/28/avast-forums-hacked/

    You'll see i'm also defending Panda, Symantec and Kaspersky in it. And explaining things that normal people just don't understand and keep on bashing companies who just use the forum software like so many other companies.
     
  2. BECAUSE AVAST BUSINESS MODEL IS BASED ON ITS LARGE CUSTOMER BASE (MALWARE INTELLIGENCE IS A NUMBERS GAME, YOU DON'T HAVE TO OUT RUN THE LION, JUST BE FASTER THAN SOMEBODY ELSE IN THE HEARD AND YOU WON'T BECOME A VICTIM) WHICH USES ITS FREE ANTIVIRUS. IT IS FREE, ERGO IT HAS TO BE AS CHEAP AS POSSIBLE, DOES MONEY GROW ON TREES?

    OF COURSE THIS COULD BE PREVENTED BY ALLOCATING MORE BUDGET TO THIS FORUM , MORE BUDGET WOULD ENABLE TO USE
    - (WHEN OUTSOURCING) A MORE QUALIFIED SERVICE PROVIDER WITH A MORE SECURE (UP TO DATE) SOFTWARE AND HARDWARE PLATFORM OR
    - (WHEN INSOURCING) USING AN IN-HOUSE AVAST TEAM WITH IN-HOUSE SECURITY KNOWLEDGE AND AVAST CONTROLLED INFRASTRUCTURE.

    Thank you for descending the mountain Olympus and explaining this to ordinary people, Rezjor-SAN
     
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  3. bidd

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    For geographical name's sake Rezjor-SAN "don't you mean" RejZoR-San would be more likely to descend Mt Fuji :)
     
  4. RejZoR

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    And you think dumping millions into a forum would somehow magically make it 100% hack proof. Sorry, but you're delusional and you (like i said) clearly don't understand things. Message brought to you from Mt. Olympus.
     
  5. Malware fighter

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    thought won't comment on this, but your logic is broken - imagine you access your bank's account and you see zero instead of money you keep with it AND the message from the bank: "Dear customer, due to third party's software failure( or antivirus company failure(engage your imagination for numerous possibilities)) we were unable to restore your account balance. We apologize and hope you will remain our precious customer." Banks, corporates don't write software themselves, they buy these services from numerous sources, BUT ALWAYS are responsible for any problems which happened using their service no matter what soft etc. they are using. So get back to real life, the sooner the better.
     
  6. clubhouse1

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    Your arrogance, conceit and rudeness give me reason to avoid your invite\challenge to view your site...If I want information I'll seek it from someone more balanced and open minded....You have indicated Avast have given up listening to your opinions lately too, good for them, you should read between the lines, they are saying you're not as important as you think.

    My opinion on the troubles re the Avast forum remain unchanged...
     
  7. RejZoR

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    You're doing it again. Comparing banking systems with some unimportant forum. It's just not the same by trillion miles. If avast!'s main servers that cover user accounts, licenses, payments, that would be critical. But it isn't. It's just some forum which can be scraped and started all over without much consequences for anything. That's why i see everyone causing mass hysteria and panic around some stupid forum so freakin hilarious.

    @clubhouse1
    Cool for you bro. Most important thing is that you have your faith in your WRONG opinions. But who am i to correct people and learn them things that are clearly not understandable to them... ignorance is apparently indeed a bliss...
     
  8. Malware fighter

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    Seems you can't understand why your logic is broken and banks was taken fas the example to help you understand, but if even this is not helping you to realize it, I won't waste my time. There is no area which is unimportant to brand, everything matters.
     
  9. bidd

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    Malware fighter you are comparing apples to oranges, if you take a moment to read was has been said and hopefully let some of it sink in then you might start to understand what RejZoR is trying to explain.
     
  10. Malware fighter

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    no need to do this and seems the one who needs time to digest is not me, since you guys a short sighted - thinking only about one aspect mainly - who wrote the code ? not me, then not my problem ?! Real life and business is way more complex than this.
     
  11. bidd

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    Yeah right:argh: I'm not even going to bother:rolleyes:
     
  12. RejZoR

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    I suggest you start understanding stuff that you read because i have NEVER said that ANYWHERE. I've said 3rd party forum software hacks are unimportant and don't deserve all the drama you're all making. And i'll repeat for the 3rd time, main servers do matter, these are the ones holding customers personal info, phone numbers, credit card numbers etc (which weren't compromised in this case at all). So please do quote me (with full context!) where i have said that. Please do so. Because i know i've never ever said that. So stop grinding the nonsense around...
     
  13. Malware fighter

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    We are not making drama here and many are writing it only because you try to downplay this event like "nothing has happened and please come back and hack forums more- it's pretty normal"
     
  14. RejZoR

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    Well, it IS nothing. So it got hacked. Like other 50 billion forums...
     
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  16. Try to understand my previous post

    I said there is no business case to spend a lot of money on the forum due to Avast's free AV (my reaction to TechWorm's surprise of using a third party provider with ampel security measures). I don't know who is delusional when you interpret "it is a FREE AV and money does not grow on trees" as someone who is arguing that Avast should spend millions on forum software.

    I countered your reaction that Avast is not to blame because it was third party code as not true. Avast could have selected a service provider with better security standards in their software/hardware platform (or do it themselves, after all security is Avast's core business). Your weblog (on Wordpress) for instance also does not use the latest Wordpress core release, so when you are hacked, it is your fault, not Wordpress.
     
  17. virtumonde

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    Why the drama ..Rejzor has valid points... Even if it was hosted in Bill's Gates bedroom, a forum can be hacked.

    Web / network security is different than PC protection..

    One or two years ago most big security companies websites ware hacked one by one (it was more serious than this, as suspicion of stolen credit card info existed)..
     
  18. RejZoR

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    My blog IS hosted by Wordpress and i don't have any access to their service beyond control panel. So if anything goes wrong it will be THEIR fault, not mine. All i can do is to use two factor verification for my account which i am using.
     
  19. clubhouse1

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    Everybody has valid points, opinions vary, what a forum doesn't need is some self appointed expert talking in disparaging terms to other posters, be their points right or wrong...The best experts covey their thoughts without insults, any other way is redundant...IN MY OPINION!
     
  20. Malware fighter

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    couldn't agree more
     
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    Of course every thing can be hacked and compromised, point of malware fighter is that it hurts the Brand, look at Avast brand promise (see pic)

    Exactly my point hence the cynical MT Olympus remarks
     
  22. Malware fighter

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    nice picture :argh:
     
  23. bidd

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    Read the rest of the picture - Protects over 200 million PC's, Mac's and Androids- I don't see anywhere it states that it protects forum software, open your eyes instead of reading only what you want to see:rolleyes:
     
  24. ronjor

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    Let's get back to the original topic of this thread and leave extraneous comments out.
     
  25. bidd

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    Vlk's post from the blog
     
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