Hi, Busy trying Fedora 23. I think it's pretty fast and stable, even better than Fedora 20 has been IMHO. Anybody else using that distro for the time being?
I tested it a few months ago, before coming out. Didn't like it. I couldn't get my mouse to work properly. In KDE 5 there's a mouse settings editor, and by default it has an acceleration that I REALLY don't like, so I edit it to 1.0x and 1 pixel. However, on Fedora 23 the acceleration was still there, even after editing. Then I went to upgrade the system to rawhide. I kept stopping the process, and after reboot the system would be borked. But aside from that, Fedora is a good system.
My main machine is running Fedora 23 with Gnome 3.18 and I'm very happy! The only problem I seem to have is reading data from DVDs, but I never normally need to do so. Fast, stable, and Gnome is really improving with every release now. dnf works well as the yum replacement, and the different versions (cloud, Atomic etc) are all interesting and well thought out. The developer focus is very welcome, too!
Funnily enough, Fedora 23 is currently the only distro I manage to read all my commercial dvd's on without fail. Some of these dvd's can't be read on the other distros I'm running (Ubuntu, Mint, Manjaro, Antergos, Stella, CentOS). When issuing sudo rpm -qa|egrep 'vlc|dvd' do you have the same version for these components as I have? vlc-2.2.2-0.1.fc23.x86_64 vlc-core-2.2.2-0.1.fc23.x86_64 dvdauthor-0.7.1-8.fc23.x86_64 libdvdnav-5.0.3-2.fc23.x86_64 dvd+rw-tools-7.1-19.fc23.x86_64 libdvdread-5.0.3-1.fc23.x86_64 libdvdcss-1.3.99-2.fc23.x86_64 lsdvd-0.16-22.fc23.x86_64 radvd-2.11-3.fc23.x86_64
Additionally, on the other distros, if I don't install Nvidia then I get tearing on some video files (from DVD or mp4 or whatever). On Fedora 23, I get no tearing from those movies, even without Nvidia.
Intel Quad Core 4GoRam and an old Nvidia GT8800. Other distros should be up to speed by now shouldn't they?
Don't have this mouse problem in Gnome, but then Gnome sucks, right. As far as the few months back, it's quite a while in the lifespan of a Fedora release. So we're clearly not talking about the same software, despite the brand name being the same. Desktop environment is part of the product, so are updates.
Went back to Fedora but using Cinnamon. Install 'Fedy' right away and update the codecs and a few other things. Why they aren't there by default is another story altogether. The tool for updating from one Fedora release to the next - 'Fedup' apparently has gotten a lot better.
Afaik 'Fedup' has been deprecated in favour of DNF. Fedup commands can still be used but those are redirected to DNF. DNF supposedly stands for 'DaNdiFied Yum'.
Tested and ditched. Got problems when installing things which were not in the Software Center (Opera, Chrome). AirVPN Client did not work. There is a solution in AirVPN forums but did not work too, I could not install the needed packages. What pissed me off what that I had got an error prompt just saying "something Error" without any more details. Ok, I am not a linux expert but it was enough for the time being.
Using the default Gnome I'm guessing. I tried that twice because I want to be able to move to Wayland sooner rather than later and also had trouble with Chrome - it wouldn't install. No such problem with Fedora using Cinnamon.
Correct, default gnome. Yesterday after posting I gave it a try again. Same problems. I am out. I am installing Debian right now.
I'm running Fedora 23 Gnome in a Virtualbox VM right now. I had been unfamiliar with Gnome 3 as I've been a KDE fanboy for years. However, after implementing the suggestions on this site and adding some shell extensions Gnome becomes much more usable. Why Gnome? Because I've read several times - even from a (former) Fedora KDE maintainer - that the state of KDE/Plasma on Fedora is a mess. This might be (partially) due to the fact that the transition from KDE4 to Plasma 5 is not yet really over. And since Gnome is the default DE on Fedora and on RHEL and Red Hat is the biggest Gnome supporter I think that using Gnome promises the least trouble on Fedora. However, I haven't tried Mate for a long time and never on Fedora.
I had read that Gnome 3 can be made much more generic with a flat panel across the bottom for instance instead of across the top and that sidebar eliminated. Do you have a screen shot of what Gnome looks like after your tweaks?
I'm only beginning to explore the possibilities of Gnome, so nothing spectacular. E.g., I haven't tried the Cairo Dock yet.
Huge improvement right there. I have to get that panel on top to auto hide and preferably move to the bottom. You've put a panel on the bottom that shows open/minimized apps - that's from the shell extensions page?