Another Thread about lost and data corrupted files...

Discussion in 'Paragon Partition Manager Product Line' started by Boris88, Jun 19, 2015.

  1. Boris88

    Boris88 Registered Member

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    Hello all, looking forward for some help if possible with this issue:


    I used Paragon partition magic 15 to create 3rd partition for installing win7. After setting up, i'v taken some space from both partitions for creating third-one... So, in the middle of process while resizing i ran out of electricity, and all hell break loose.. :( I turned on PC, but he wouldn't boot, so i wanted to try repairing windows by using CD. But in partition selection screen i had "C" =30 GB, partition and "Unallocated space" =270 GB and no option for repairing, then i made fatal mistake (being dumb and hoping it wont go to Unallocated space) deleted "C" partitions as well it went to "Unallocated space" so all my data was lost. I knew there are recovery software so i didn't dare to format.

    So i'v plugged my Hard Drive to a work computer and started trying to recover lost data, 1st thing i did was "undelete" option in partition magic 15. Un-delete kinda worked cause i could see all my root folders but i couldn't access them, they were all locked. So i rebooted PC,and it ran chkdsk. It began saying something like "deleting orphan file #### etc. Then after that, it starting saying Inserting an index entry into index, and so on.. I thought that is good and that windows is restoring/fixing my files, so i let him finish. it toked ~30 mins. After it booted i could access to all root folders, and all files were there too, with same amount of MB's as before. But problem was after i played an mp3 file/music it started playing a different song from a different artist and on 2nd song i payed he was playing a 2nd part of song from that other artist, also many songs was non-playable at all. Pictures and all other data were mixed up, merged in to other files, corrupted... I had 3 partitions, 1 My D partition where all my important data is and 2 RAW partitions which had some files from D partition as well...

    I tried using many different recovery data software's, but after restoring data with each software i tried, it gave me almost same results. All files were still same, mixed, merged and still corrupted. So here i am now still struggling to make some of it. Is anyhow possible to restore it correctly as it was before?

    -Looking for opinions and suggestions.

    P.S sorry for bad english and long post, i tried explaining what exactly happened.
     
  2. fireworker

    fireworker Registered Member

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    No. After chkdsk "deleting orphan file ####" etc. I'm sorry
    In the future, I advise you to make timely backups. Especially backups of important data. Especially before you resize a partition or other risky operations.
    Now you can try to use recovery programs, they could possibly something to resurrect. Again to the future: if you need to restore the missing files from the problem partition, first you need to create an raw-image of this partition and is already working with this image by recovery programs, storing the results in a separate place, not the same place where looking for files.
    Sorry for bad English
     
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  3. Boris88

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    I appreciate ur reply, all i wanna know if there is some hope. if not, which is obvious from what i understood gonna take other measures.
     
  4. Cypherdude

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    I don't believe there is any method which will restore your files.

    I don't believe Paragon offers free support through this forum anymore. It appears you must contact Paragon directly through their website. When you purchase from Paragon, I believe you get a certain amount of time for free support. After that, you must pay for tech support.

    Whenever you change your partitions, whether it is resizing or backup, you really must use a UPS. If you don't, you run the risk of having an electrical outage which can damage your partitions. I personally use 3 UPS's. I have 1 "CyberPower CP1500PFCLCD PFC Sinewave UPS 1500VA 900W PFC Compatible Mini-Tower" and 2 "CyberPower CP1500AVRT AVR Series UPS 1500VA 900W Mini-Tower". I recommend you buy the CyberPower PFCLCD line. The CyberPower PFCLCD line gives a "Pure Sine Wave Waveform - Active PFC Compatibility" which is compatible with the newer computer PSU's. Older and cheaper UPS's are not compatible with modern PSU's and can cause problems. If you purchase from Amazon, I recommend you buy the "CyberPower CP1350PFCLCD PFC Sinewave UPS 1350VA 810W PFC Compatible Mini-Tower" instead of the CP1500PFCLCD. For some reason, Amazon has categorized the CP1500PFCLCD as "Item is hazmat and non-returnable." If you buy the CP1350PFCLCD instead, you should avoid any problems.

    Battery replacement is easy and inexpensive. You replace your batteries every 3 years. I've had my UPS's for 4 years now. I replaced my batteries in December 2014. Each 1500VA UPS has 2 batteries which cost $30 each. Total cost to replace the batteries for all 3 UPS's at once, 6 identical batteries, was 6 x $30 = $180. Always keep the tape from inside the CyberPower UPS. Set them aside, keep them clean; don't throw them away.

    This is my 5 monitor, Intel i7, 16 GB RAM, 480 GB SSD system. Here is my 73 minute YouTube video which demonstrates my system:

    https://youtu.be/pwNJto6VWE8 (see the first and last 2 minutes).

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  5. fireworker

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    If you want help from Paragon employees, collect logs and send them with a description of the situation.
    "The program enables to simplify the procedure of sending support requests to the Paragon Support Team. In case of having difficulties with handling the program, you, with the help of this very function, can address the company support engineers and provide them with all the information they need such as the disk layout, performed operations, etc. in order to tackle the encountered problem. Information of that kind is stored in log files.
    To prepare a log files package, please do the following:
    1. Click Log Saver.
    2. Provide an e-mail address used for registering the product, then give a detailed description on the encountered problem in the corresponding text fields. Please don’t worry - we respect your privacy, so none of your confidential data will be exposed. This utility only collects the program’s operation logs to help our Support Team find and tackle your problem. Click Next to continue."
     
  6. Robin A.

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    I think a backup doesn´t change a partition.

    Paragon programs can be configured to be capable of recovering from loss of power, with several degrees of "robustness" available, which impact the performances of the program in different ways. I don´t know if these options really work or not, and it seems that nobody uses them.

    From the HDM manual:"Paragon Power Shield™ technology to provide data consistency in case of a hardware malfunction, power outages or an operating system failure."
     
  7. Keatah

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    Manual filecarving could work for a few select files. But the labor is far too intensive for anything more than a couple.. We're talking 1/2 hour more or less per file, by a technician in a forensic lab. And an expert one at that. And that's assuming all the parts of the file have traces left over indicating where they were before this mess started.

    The 1st mistake in this disaster was not having a backup prior to a critical disk operation. Critical meaning that one goof would render your setup inoperable.

    The 2nd one was jumping ahead and not imaging the damaged disk as the first step in recovery. Professionals copy the disk and work on the copy as they work the problem.

    3rd, 4th, and 5th errors. Trying to repair Windows, deleting and undeleting a partition, and finally running CheckDisk. All this writing activity did damage to the filesystem. Had pro-level help been sought before 3,4, and 5, I bet the only thing lost would have been lost is the exact file the system was moving during the power loss. Or one small section of a just a couple of files.

    6th issue, again, writing and using utilities to restore to the failing disk.

    All the data was present and intact until write activity was done. The standard utilities you used can only work correctly in a properly structured environment. They are not all-seeing or all-knowing. They weren't intended for use in such scenarios. Not by a longshot.

    Right now the disk is far too scrambled for help from message boards. Not in this day and age at this level of technology.
     
  8. Keatah

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    It better not!!
     
  9. Keatah

    Keatah Registered Member

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    Most technologies like these do many read/writes so to speak, and they make a record of what they do as they do it. They make a tiny traveling "moving-window" backup as they work through the disk. It backs up a group of sectors, verifies, performs work, verifies. And if all matches a-ok, it goes to the next segment.

    If power is lost at any time, there's a backup and log/instruction sufficient to cover that interruption.
     
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