100% june?

[meneer]

Just saw this announcement (http://www.sophos.com/companyinfo/news/vb100jun03.html) by Sopohos (Congrats are in order :) ).
How about the other results (not on the virusbulletin site yet)?

[Firefighter]

To Meneer from Firefighter!

Avast 4 Pro has got also that June 2003 VB 100% Award! ;D

http://www.avast.com/i_kat_5.html


Best Regards,
Firefighter!

[meneer]

-{ Quote: " quoting: Firefighter link=board=24;threadid=9829;start=0#msg64185 date=1054557354]Avast 4 Pro has got also that June 2003 VB 100% Award! ;D
" }-

Congrats to them too and how glad I am to run Avast4 Home edition 8)

(and also kudos for a great makeover for their website, finally looking professional ;D )

[Firefighter]

To Meneer from Firefighter!

BitDefender won it's first VB 100% Award WinXP June 2003! ;D ;D ;D

http://www.bitdefender.com/bd/site/presscenter.php?menu_id=24&n_id=20

Best Regards,
Firefighter!

[meneer]

I also found this announcement: http://www.virusbuster.hu/en/company/press/virus_bulletin_100_june_2003... (wel done of course ;) )How about the others?

[Firefighter]

To Meneer from Firefighter!

Also eScan has done it's homework well, new VB Award June 2003! ;D

http://www.mwti.net/index.asp


Best Regards,
Firefighter!

[Tinribs]

Looks like Eset Nod32 passed as well, if you view the Aussie site it has Nod up to 22 passes, may's pass only equalled 21 :)

http://www.nod32.com.au/nod32/home/home.htm

[Paul Wilders]

-{ Quote: " quoting: Tinribs link=board=24;threadid=9829;start=0#msg64534 date=1054739284]
Looks like Eset Nod32 passed as well..." }-

Hardly comes as as surprise, does it Kev? ;D

regards.

paul

[Tinribs]

-{ Quote: " quoting: Forum Admin link=board=24;threadid=9829;start=0#msg64541 date=1054741557]
-{ Quote: " quoting: Tinribs link=board=24;threadid=9829;start=0#msg64534 date=1054739284]
Looks like Eset Nod32 passed as well..." }-

Hardly comes as as surprise, does it Kev? ;D


" }-

Well, you never know, maybe one day.... ;)

[Tinribs]

Norman too, congrats to them;

http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories.pl?ACCT=104&STORY=/www/story/06-04-2003/0001959332&EDATE=


Shazbut!! help, need to sort out that url!

[Technodrome]

Complete list of products with June's VB 100% :

Alwil avast!,
CA eTrust Antivirus,
CA Vet Anti-Virus,
CAT Quick Heal,
Command AntiVirus,
Eset NOD32,
FRISK F-Prot,
F-Secure Anti-Virus,
GDATA AntiVirusKit,
GeCAD RAV,
Grisoft AVG,
HAURI ViRobot,
MicroWorld eScan,
NAI VirusScan,
Norman Virus Control,
SOFTWIN BitDefender,
Sophos Anti-Virus,
Symantec AntiVirus,
Trend PC-cillin,
VirusBuster

Only NOD32 & Norton AV were able to detect all virus samples in this test. (ITW & ZOO)

Failed:

Kaspersky AV,( False positive)
DrWeb, (MISSED 5 infected files)
AhnLab V3 VirusBlock,
Great ZMW32,
NTW Virus Chaser.




Technodrome

[anon]

No VB100 for Dr.Web then?

But AVG got it? :o

[Technodrome]

Not this month! 8)



Technodrome

[Madsen DK]

Isnt it AVGs first pass ever???? :o

[Douglas]

-{ Quote: "DrWeb, (MISSED 5 infected files)
" }-
I'm devastated! :'(
Is that as much as it sounds like?

Douglas

[Madsen DK]

Cheer up Douglas. :D
Theres always next test, and its only 5 files.
Regards
Ole

[Technodrome]

-{ Quote: " quoting: Douglas link=board=24;threadid=9829;start=0#msg64575 date=1054758264]
I'm devastated! :'(
Is that as much as it sounds like?

Douglas
" }-

Don't be! It could be just a program bug. I am not sure if this happend with on-acceses or on-demand component.

I don't think DrWeb missed 5 different viruses. It could be just an extension problem…

Anyways, DrWeb is still great av!


Technodrome

[Madsen DK]

And better than AVG, even with the 5 missed files. ;D

[Technodrome]

-{ Quote: " quoting: Madsen DK link=board=24;threadid=9829;start=15#msg64581 date=1054758717]
And better than AVG, even with the 5 missed files. ;D
" }-

Much! ;D 8)


Technodrome

[Madsen DK]

Adiel will claim otherwise, im afraid. ;D ;D ;D
Sorry, its not my habit to get personal, but i couldnt help it. :-[ :-[
Sorry again, feel free to shoot me. :-[
Regds.
Ole

[Douglas]

Thanks for the words of encouragement. ;)
It's almost like your AV becomes a part of you. :)

Regards,
Douglas

[Madsen DK]

ROFL ;D ;D
Nice one Douglas, but no, im still human( almost) ;D
Regards
Ole

[_anvil]

Hmm, can anyone explain, why KAV produced a false positive, while AVK and F-Secure did not? ???

They are all using the same scan engine _and_ the same signature defs... :o

[Madsen DK]

Perhaps a program bug, like Tech mentioned with Dr. Web.
Otherwise it beats me too ???
Regards
Ole

[Tinribs]

Well, congratulations where they are due, especially to AVG :)

[Firefighter]

To everyone from Firefighter!

One of the biggest in Europe is again missing, Panda Antivirus? :-[


Best Regards,
Firefighter!

[Straight Shooter]

-{ Quote: " quoting: Firefighter link=board=24;threadid=9829;start=15#msg64628 date=1054793792]
To everyone from Firefighter!

One of the biggest in Europe is again missing, Panda Antivirus? :-[
" }-

That's too bad for Panda...Really... I was a beta tester for Panda's 7.0 release, and I found it a really smooth, polished AV, with superior cleaning abilities and fast scanning. I believe an AV has to want to be tested, either Panda doesn't care (???) about VB or they know they'll fail ??? (which I don't believe)... That fact alone plus it's average unpackers (correct me if I'm wrong) have kept me away from Panda. They have an excellent on line scanner, though.. I am not sure if the AV companies have to pay to get tested...

[controler]

I am using Panda AV 7.05.80 along with
GAV and Nod32 Beta and all are working well together
with this configuration.
I am very pleased with the way Panda intigrated Sygate's Firewall . This combo seems to work very well.
However I am dissapointed in Panda for not allowing updates in their BETA. There is not anyway to test the
update feature. Guessing it is because I am using a public beta as apposed to a private beta?
Anyway, ALL betas should have full features, even if it is for a limited time.
The only thing dissabled in GAV is the real time scan
wich requires a donation.
Are they affraid we will install their AV just to check our systems for nasties and then uninstall it again after cleaning?
I did write to Panda wich received a very timley responce but their answer was , " we don't allow def updates in the new beta and no other explanations were givin. I was going to send some files to them but figured it just wasn't worth it because with more recent updates( since 5-6-2003 ) i wasn't sure if they are catching them or not. They need to give a bit in order to get a bit.

con

[gumajz]

-{ Quote: " quoting: _anvil link=board=24;threadid=9829;start=15#msg64592 date=1054761158]
Hmm, can anyone explain, why KAV produced a false positive, while AVK and F-Secure did not? ???

They are all using the same scan engine _and_ the same signature defs... :o
" }-

Because VB testers are lamers. Kaspersky detected one file, which is able to do rebooting of PC as "Trojan Horse Rebooting". It was in CLEAN TEST SETS and this together with little brains of VB testers mean, that Kaspersky had "false positive"...

[Paul Wilders]

gumajz,

-{ Quote: "Because VB testers are lamers. Kaspersky detected one file, which is able to do rebooting of PC as "Trojan Horse Rebooting". It was in CLEAN TEST SETS and this together with little brains of VB testers mean, that Kaspersky had "false positive"..." }-

VB has a strict set of rules - and antivirus vendors/developers are free to submit their software for VB testing, as Kaspersky has. I for one wouldn't call Eugene Kaspersky a "lamer" for submitting his software to a VB test, being perfectly aware of the rules from VB ;)

regards.

paul

[_anvil]

gumajz,

thanks for the info! Obviously, KAV's heuristics was a bit "too strong"... ;)

Still I wonder, why AVK and F-Secure did not have this false positive - I thought, all three would use the same heuristics...

[Tinribs]

I, for one, would much rather have a false positive than a missed 'live' virii!
Its a contentious issue failing a test because of a false positive, and one which VB has come under criticism for before, but it is indeed an award that most companies strive for (despite its dismissing by some)

[Randy_Bell]

-{ Quote: " quoting: Technodrome link=board=24;threadid=9829;start=0#msg64564 date=1054756279]Only NOD32 & Norton AV were able to detect all virus samples in this test. (ITW & ZOO)" }-

{Ducks to avoid Paul's "Davidoff" cigar ashes .. } ... WTG Norton/ESET {what strange bedfellows hath VB wrought?} .. ROFL :o ;D 8)

[Technodrome]

Something's wrong.... ??? ;D



Technodrome

[Paul Wilders]

Ran,

-{ Quote: "{Ducks to avoid Paul's "Davidoff" cigar ashes .. }" }-

..you can run, but you cannot hide ;D

regards,

paul

[Firefighter]

To everyone from Firefighter!

Does anyone have that list of each AV where those numbers of the missed viruses are in macro, polymorphic and standard tests in VB June 2003? ??? ;D

Best Regards,
Firefighter!

[Technodrome]

-{ Quote: " quoting: Firefighter link=board=24;threadid=9829;start=30#msg64971 date=1054918213]
To everyone from Firefighter!

Does anyone have that list of each AV where those numbers of the missed viruses are in macro, polymorphic and standard tests in VB June 2003? ??? ;D

Best Regards,
Firefighter!
" }-

I thought you were a subscriber to their magazine. ;D ;D



Technodrome

[controler]

Is Lamer a word WAREZ use? or is it a frequently used european
word?

[Firefighter]

To everyone from Firefighter!

If you want to check that the VirusBulletin 100% Awards are the most wanted Awards ever, Please, look at the websites from NAI, Symantec, RAV, F-secure, TrendMicro etc.

There you will see how important that latest VB 100% Award really is to them! ;D ;D ;D

"The truth is out there, but it hurts!"

Best Regards,
Firefighter!

[Technodrome]

-{ Quote: " quoting: Firefighter link=board=24;threadid=9829;start=30#msg65110 date=1054972829]
To everyone from Firefighter!

If you want to check if the VirusBulletin 100% Awards are the most wanted Awards ever, Please, look at the websites from NAI, Symantec, RAV, F-secure, TrendMicro etc.

There you will see how important that latest VB 100% Award really is to them! ;D ;D ;D

"The truth is out there, but it hurts!"

Best Regards,
Firefighter!
" }-

I don't get your point here. But here you go:

[Technodrome]

Norton

[Technodrome]

RAV

[Technodrome]

TrendMicro

[Technodrome]

Did I hear word “Prestigious”? I guess FF, it means something to them as well….



Technodrome

[Technodrome]

McAfee

[Firefighter]

To Technodrome from Firefighter!

I mean the last VB 100% Award WinXP June 2003! ;D ;D ;D


"The truth is out there, but it hurts!"

Best Regards,
Firefighter!

[Technodrome]

-{ Quote: " quoting: Firefighter link=board=24;threadid=9829;start=45#msg65125 date=1054982554]
To Technodrome from Firefighter!

I mean the last VB 100% Award WinXP June 2003! ;D ;D ;D


"The truth is out there, but it hurts!"

Best Regards,
Firefighter!
" }-

It will make a news highlight. Trust me... It always has. ;)



Techndrome

[Firefighter]

To Technodrome from Firefighter!

I mean what is the real value of such an Award when 20 passes and 5 fails? ;D ;D ;D


"The truth is out there, but it hurts!"

Best Regards,
Firefighter!

[Metallica]

-{ Quote: " quoting: Firefighter link=board=24;threadid=9829;start=45#msg65130 date=1054985115]
I mean what is the real value of such an Award when 20 passes and 5 fails? " }-

Maybe it tells us we have a choice.
This test is not about who catches the most, but about which AV´s catch all that really threatens us.

This search for the truth goes on. ;)

[meneer]

In my company I dictated that we only select a scanner that scores 100% at least 4 out of 5 times. Leaves plenty of choice, but it requires us to stay alert too :)
So far we didn't have to change our scanner, as it satisfies with our requirements.

[Technodrome]

Yeah FF maybe we have a choice.

Maybe (in near future) chosing an av software will be based on task bar icon(how pretty it is, colors, sign, is it animated). ;D ;D

I Like the idea…;D


Technodrome

[Firefighter]

To Technodrome from Firefighter!

In near future? I imagined it is reality just now! ;D ;D ;D


"The truth is out there, but it hurts!"

Best Regards,
Firefighter!

[xor]

-{ Quote: " quoting: controler link=board=24;threadid=9829;start=30#msg65036 date=1054937359]
Is Lamer a word WAREZ use? or is it a frequently used european
word?
" }-

yes it is - look here - holiday travel of aol members ;D

http://www.g-av.com/l.jpg

[controler]

XOR

that is a great picture AOL Lamers LOL thanks

con

[Technodrome]

WTF!
http://www.lamers-gmbh.de/Logo2001.jpg



Technodrome

[Technodrome]

-{ Quote: " quoting: Firefighter link=board=24;threadid=9829;start=30#msg65110 date=1054972829]
To everyone from Firefighter!

If you want to check that the VirusBulletin 100% Awards are the most wanted Awards ever, Please, look at the websites from NAI, Symantec, RAV, F-secure, TrendMicro etc.
" }-

look at:
http://www.bitdefender.com/bd/site/presscenter.php?menu_id=24&n_id=20



Technodrome

[Technodrome]

Stay tuned for more FF... ;) ;D



Technodrome

[Technodrome]

Stay tuned for more... ;D ;D

[solarpowered candle]

:) Im sure if everyone was conditioned to believe that the prestigious and highly sort after " Donald Duck and Goofey anti virus awards" were the most wanted awards then the anti virus companies would have that on there sites too ,right next to virus bulletin 100% awards.Simply because thats what they know sells

[meneer]

:)
Next release of RAV will claim 'Tested on WinXP' :P

[Madsen DK]

-{ Quote: " quoting: meneer link=board=24;threadid=9829;start=45#msg65905 date=1055313863]
:)
Next release of RAV will claim 'Tested on WinXP' :P
" }-

ROFL ;D

[Firefighter]

To Technodrome from Firefighter!

When I wrote the list of some av:s that didn't even notice the last VB 100% Award, I already knew that BitDefender had informed the last VB 100% Award only because it was the first one to BitDefender! ;D ;D ;D


"The truth is out there, but it hurts!"

Best Regards,
Firefighter!

[Firefighter]

To everyone from Firefighter!

Here are the numbers of misses in the latest VB 2003 June On-Demand scan "in the Zoo" test.

Macro Polym. Std Total Product

0 0 0 0 NOD32
0 0 0 0 Symantec AV Corp
0 0 0 0 CA eTrust AV 7.0
0 0 0 0 DrWeb 4.29c **
0 0 0 0 NTW Virus Chaser 5.0 **
0 1 0 1 GDATA AVK Pro 12
0 1 0 1 MicroWorld eScan 2003
0 1 0 1 Kaspersky KAV *
0 1 3 4 F-secure Anti-Virus 3.12
0 0 4 4 NAI VirusScan 7.00
0 4 4 8 FRISK F-Prot 3.13a
0 35 2 37 GeGAD RAV 8.6
11 60 15 86 Sophos AV 3.69
0 91 8 99 Command AV 4.80.3
17 45 62 124 BitDefender Std 7.0
4 160 9 173 VirusBuster VB 4.2
18 153 13 184 Avast 4 Pro
2 178 9 189 Norman VC 5.50
0 215 7 222 PC-cillin 2003 10.02
20 257 22 299 Grisoft AVG 6.0
0 437 2 439 CA Vet AV 10:58.0.3
101 1543 367 2011 CAT Quick Heal 6.09
95 8830 304 9229 Ahnlab V3 **
43 10795 530 11368 Hauri ViRobot Exp 4.0
1550 14737 525 16812 Ggreat ZMV32 **

* Missed VB 100% Award because of ONE false positive.
** Missed VB 100% Award because of in the Wild test.

Congratulations to Hauri ViRobot for the VB 100% Award! ;)

If someone wants to count manually the number of those objects in those three virus categories, Please check the link:

http://www.virusbtn.com/Comparatives/WinXP/2003/test_sets.html

Unfortunately I couldn't reach that link! ???


"The truth is out there, but it hurts!"

Best Regards,
Firefighter!

[_anvil]

What the heck is "F-secure Anti-Virus 3.12"? Current version is 5.41... :o
I think, they just mixed things up and put the F-Prot-Engine number as F-Secure version number... ;D

But then: how could F-Secure miss more zoo-virii than KAV, although both use same engine and signatures?
Always confusion about these scanners... ???

[Firefighter]

To _anvil from Firefighter!

I was also quite embarrassed too, the whole name was F-Secure Anti-Virus 3.12.410, but maybe it was a mistake from VB? :o

"The truth is out there, but it hurts!"

Best Regards,
Firefighter!

[Technodrome]

See FF NOD32 missed 0 in zoo test. ;)




Technodrome

[Firefighter]

To Technodrome from Firefighter!

Congratulations to all them 5 (or 3) and especially to NOD32, because it has at last recognized the VOICE OF A CUSTOMER!

http://www.pcwelt.de/tests/software-tests/datensicherheit/31373/

http://www.rokop-security.de/main/article.php?sid=578

At last NOD32 is able to scan runtime packers and learned the lesson of the latest av-test.org 2-2003 test! If I am wrong again, it's because my poor German! ;D ;D ;D

Let's wait how fast NOD is after those unpacking skills! 8)

No hard feelings, have a nice day! ;D

"The truth is out there, but it hurts!"

Best Regards,
Firefighter!

[sig]

NOD's done clean sweeps of the ITW and zoo viruses before in VB tests as I recall, so this is not a unique event.

Also, Eset's been working on NOD v.2 since last year (including I believe better detection of packed, compressed files). They do seem more responsive to user's concerns and issues but this too is not just a recent development. :)