Which pair should I choose?

[Sxperm]

Hi everyone, I need to change from ZIS6 to make a best pair of AV + FW. Which one should I choose? Give me your advice please.
1. KAV 5.0 Pro + ZA pro 5.5
2. NOD 32 + ZA pro 5.5
3. KAV 5.0 Pro + Sygate Personal pro 5.5
4. NOD 32 + Sygate Personal pro 5.5
5. KAV 5.0 Pro + Blackice PC 3.6com
6. NOD 32 +Blackice PC 3.6com
7. KAV 5.0 pro + Outpost pro 2.7
8. NOD 32 +Outpost pro 2.7
9. Or give me more pairs that you think is your best

Thank you for your advice ;D
regards

[LokiLoki]

NOD32
and
Look and Stop

That's what I use. So far so good.

[QuietLurker]

On my system:

NAV Pro 2004 running resident
KAV 5.0 on demand
ZAP 6.0 (it seems to be snappier even with all it's new bells & whistles than version 5.5)

[Notok]

-{ Quote: "NOD32
and
Look and Stop

That's what I use. So far so good." }-I agree, I use these and couldn't be happier. Very light on resources with very good protection. With the beta drivers LnS also fares the best against leaktests.

[rdsu]

I would choose the options 8... ;)

[q1aqza]

I would choose 7.

[luvhirez]

Hi,
I use Nod32 and Jetico. I beleive these 2 to give the best protection and light on resources. Just be aware jetico can be tedius to set up. but once set up it is very good!
otherwise ive heard good things about look and stop, if you dont mind paying for a good firewall.

cheers

[Brian N]

Or try Bitguard with NOD ;)

[mercurie]

-{ Quote: "I would choose the options 8... ;)" }-I second this option. Then again I would always go with NOD over KAV just my own personal liking. ;)

[Chuck_IV]

7. KAV 5.0 pro + Outpost pro 2.7

Especially since KAV 2006 is on the way(free upgrade for licensed users of 5), as well as Outpost 3(due out this month), which will make this combo even better.

[bogota]

Nod and tinyfirewall 2005 pro, latest version...

on my sistem running so light :)

[Muchinga]

NOD32 and JETICO :D light on resources and best protection ;)

[WSFuser]

8. NOD 32 +Outpost pro 2.7

works great for me.

[ErikAlbert]

Don't read my signature !!! :)

[Don Pelotas]

Option #7. :)

[BaRaKa]

8. NOD32 + Outpost Pro 2.7 all the way.

Been using this combo for a long time without any problems ;)

[Albinoni]

I'm using ZA Pro 6.0.667.000 and NOD32 V2, been excellent and no probs what so ever. Also using Win 2000 Pro SP4

[mvdu]

Right now, I'm using ZAP 6 and KAV Personal Pro 5. So option #1 is good. Will probably just move to KIS 6, though I'll see how ZAP and Outpost develop.

[Engine]

-{ Quote: "I'm using ZA Pro 6.0.667.000 and NOD32 V2, been excellent and no probs what so ever. Also using Win 2000 Pro SP4" }-

Same experience on winXP Pro. The above combo is far best out there.

Regards,
Engine

[Get]

After trialling options 1 to 7 you'll inevitably get to option 8 so why not save yourself some time.

[FastGame]

-{ Quote: "After trialling options 1 to 7 you'll inevitably get to option 8 so why not save yourself some time." }-
Not really, he could go straight to #7 and save time.

Option #7

[option 7]

The only problem with option 8 is you'll still probably need something like BOClean, but with option 7 your good to go as is. ;) Option 7 will run lighter though so you have to decide what you want more, the heavy duty protection of 7 which will use more resources, or the lighter running, though a bit less effective at detecting all different kinds of malware, option 8.

[Sxperm]

Thankx you guys ;D your all advices are good for me and I decided to #7 but... :D waiting for KAV 6 + Outpost PRO 3.0, ;) sounds good huh

regards,
Sxperm

[ErikAlbert]

-{ Quote: "Thankx you guys ;D your all advices are good for me and I decided to #7 but... :D waiting for KAV 6 + Outpost PRO 3.0, ;) sounds good huh

regards,
Sxperm" }-
Excellent choice. Both are really good in what they do and better than my choice : ZA Free + AVG Free.
If you listen too long to people's advice, you are lost and don't know what to do anymore.

[Pollmaster]

Erik, i think it's possible even if you restrict to freeware, there are better combos than ZA free + AV free, though this is undoubtedly the most common combo for freebies.

But you don't listen to other people's advise, i hear. :)

[TeknO]

NOD32 (on-access) + KAV 4.5 (on-demand) + Kerio PF 4.2

[Sputnik]

Kaspersky Personal + ZoneAlarm Free

[octogen]

KAV and LookNStop

[The Hammer]

-{ Quote: "The only problem with option 8 is you'll still probably need something like BOClean, but with option 7 your good to go as is. ;) Option 7 will run lighter though so you have to decide what you want more, the heavy duty protection of 7 which will use more resources, or the lighter running, though a bit less effective at detecting all different kinds of malware, option 8." }-Typical Kav nonsense, go with 8. But BOClean is good to have regardless of which Av you use.

[Chuck_IV]

-{ Quote: "Thankx you guys ;D your all advices are good for me and I decided to #7 but... :D waiting for KAV 6 + Outpost PRO 3.0, ;) sounds good huh

regards,
Sxperm" }-


FYI just got an email saying Outpost 3 will be released within 7 days, so not long to wait for that part of the equation. I'd think about just getting KAV 5 for now, to go with Outpost 3.0

And, no Hammer, when people speak KAV, it's not nonsense at all. :)

[Siro]

KAV 5.0 pro + Outpost pro 2.7
NOD 32 +Outpost pro 2.7

Either one of these 2, top notch products in their own respect so i can barely vote out any of them maybe ZAP 5.5 with Kaspersky or Nod32 wont be a bad idea too.

[Sxperm]

-{ Quote: "FYI just got an email saying Outpost 3 will be released within 7 days, so not long to wait for that part of the equation. I'd think about just getting KAV 5 for now, to go with Outpost 3.0

And, no Hammer, when people speak KAV, it's not nonsense at all. :)" }-

Thank you for your information guys, ;) you're cool!!

[Socio]

-{ Quote: "7. KAV 5.0 pro + Outpost pro 2.7

Especially since KAV 2006 is on the way(free upgrade for licensed users of 5), as well as Outpost 3(due out this month), which will make this combo even better." }-


I agree it is what I run and I am very happy with the combo.

[Siro]

Agree, Outpost is an awesome firewall and so is Kaspersky, two great products and their combination will be deadlier than ever.

[Rilla927]

This is great thread, thanks to everyone's in put, good info.

Now, I have a question directed at all OutPost Pro user's. I was just at their site and it explained how OutPost Pro 2.5 can pass all ten of the leaktesters. Is this true? I'm not incinuating that they would print something that isn't true. I was really happy to see such development, cuz I'm really impressed with this program. I'm in the market for a new FW & AV. I will do a trial version. Their visual graphics of examples done wonders about conveying how user friendly/understanding the program is. This is exactly what I have been looking for.

The reason I asked if this was true about the leaktests: I was just at a site last night where a fella that had tested all these FW against leaktesters, but the stats I seen were very different. His results said no FW passed all leaktests, unless these are old stats. So please point me in the right direction!

I'm definitely purchasing KAV Pro 6. I was going to purchase KAH, but that went out the window when I found OutPost Pro.

I guess OutPost Pro 3 in coming very soon, but I didn't find any details at the site. Or I overlooked it.

Thanks for all your comments! ;)

[kalpik]

The main new feature in Outpost 3 is the new AntiSpyware module. I dont know about passing ALL leak tests, but it sure is the firewall that passes maximum number of leaktests!

[Morpheus]

Well I just bought Outpost Pro 2.7 (with 40% discount (http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=98472)) to go along side KAV Personal 5.0.

KAH was the other firewall I was looking at but with the 40% discount (available until 25/9) and the fact that I read in the Kaspersky forum that KAH completely stops working (http://forum.kaspersky.com/index.php?showtopic=4622) when your subscription expires rather than just stopping updates helped convince me Outpost was the way to go. TBH I do not pay that much attention to leaktests but I believe it does quite well and KAH 1.8 is notoriously bad at leaktests.

You may want to look around the Outpost forum (http://www.outpostfirewall.com/forum/) for specifics about it as I found some interesting info on there when trying to decide and try the demo, I liked it instantly which helped as some firewalls you just don't get on with for no particular reason other than personal preference.

HTH,

Morpheus

[Rilla927]

Thanks Kalpik & Morpheus for your comments.

You're right about KAH being bad with leaktests, that's why I changed my mind about KAH when I seen that.

I did go to OutPost forum to see what was going on, and there were complaints about getting support for the product. I think that's one of the most important parts when you buy software. In you guy's opinions, do you think OP is for novices?

My other choice would be ZA Pro, but I see they too are having a lot of problems with new version according to forum. I have to make a choice between OP or ZA Pro. If anyone out there has any comments on ZA Pro, please post.

I have to do a fresh reformat. I was going to use "Safe XP" & "WWDC" to tighten up the system before I put on my new FW or AV etc. So I figured this would be the best time to also start fresh with new FW & AV.

All comments are welcome! ;)

[Sxperm]

IMO Outpost is not for novice but It's not hard for learning too. ZA Pro is good for novice with their pre-setting and easy interface and easy understanding adjustment. However If you need best protection you may need some of network knowledge (a little, not like real technician) like Services, Ports etc. even you use easy configure firewall like za. I don't recommend to use default setting come with firewall. Any firewall has to customize their setting to optimum protection performance. ;D I'm not geek but It's from my own experiences ;)

[Socio]

Use Parinoid2000's guide when you setup Outpost to get maximum protection from it.

A Guide to Producing a Secure Configuration for Outpost (http://www.outpostfirewall.com/forum/showthread.php?t=9858)


-{ Quote: "OutPost Pro 2.5 can pass all ten of the leaktesters. Is this true? " }-

I did tests along time ago with I believe 2.1 version and passed 9 out 10 with proper tweaking of the settings. I have not done it since but I am sure it should do 10 out of 10 now.

[Chuck_IV]

-{ Quote: "IMO Outpost is not for novice but It's not hard for learning too. ZA Pro is good for novice with their pre-setting and easy interface and easy understanding adjustment. However If you need best protection you may need some of network knowledge (a little, not like real technician) like Services, Ports etc. even you use easy configure firewall like za. I don't recommend to use default setting come with firewall. Any firewall has to customize their setting to optimum protection performance. ;D I'm not geek but It's from my own experiences ;)" }-

For about the first hr, I was a bit intimidated by Outpost Pro, especially coming from ZA Pro. HOWEVER, once I realized that I was looking at Outpost Pro all wrong, it became clearer. The big difference between ZA and Outpost is that in ZA you give/deny access at a PROGRAM level, whereas in Outpost pro, within each program you give/deny access at the PORT level. You set up rules for each port/range of ports, that the application uses. This can be confusing to the novice at first, but Outpost does a nice job with their rules wizard to build a rule for the user(I'm hoping this will be even better in version 3).

The trick for many users is to get out of the ZA type mentaility as quick as possible. This will make the transition quicker and easier.

[Rilla927]

Thanks to all of you for your replies. :)

Chuck that is a very good point, that I realized myself, that's why I was leaning towards OP. I like the idea of having control from a deeper level. I think this would definitely work with some help from OP users themselves. I'm surprised, I understand more than I thought. I realized that when I went to OP site and read for a while. I was really impressed with how deep you can go with this FW in order to protect your self. I thought, this is my kind of product!

Process Guard, RegDefend were good learning tools for me. Does anyone know if OP plays nice with PG, RD, WG, PE, Online Armor, BOClean, AttackShield WS?

I seen an offer for 5 licenses for 2 yrs. of OP for $63. I don't remember if it was the Pro version or not, I'll have to look. It expires 09/25/2005.

Rilla927

[ErikAlbert]

-{ Quote: "Erik, i think it's possible even if you restrict to freeware, there are better combos than ZA free + AV free, though this is undoubtedly the most common combo for freebies." }-
My security is mainly based on discipline on the internet and my computer.
So I don't need these expensive and sophisticated softwares to protect my computer.
I use AVG Free in stead of KAV or NOD32, because none of these three find anything on my computer.
I'm waiting for better solutions, than firewalls, countless incomplete scanners and proactive softwares, that are only developped for knowledgeable users.
And I'm doing fine and I don't have these many problems, people are talking about in security forums.

-{ Quote: "But you don't listen to other people's advise, i hear. :)" }-
That's not true. When people have good arguments or experience with something. I always listen and I'm the first one to admit my mistakes, but I have my own personal opinion about the actual solutions.
I'm also not satisfied with posts, where I read : "I think", "I guess", "I'm not sure, but...", "In my opinion ..." and many other insecurities.

At work, I have a few people that are always trying to tell me, what to do and how to do it.
But if one of my applications, developped on their advices, goes wrong, none of these people are there to support me.
In that case, I'm the scapegoat and I'm alone. They even enjoy it when I'm in trouble.
That happened a few times in the beginning, not anymore. If they have something to say, I nod, I smile and after that, I'm doing it my way.