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Iangh
September 3rd, 2005, 11:20 PM
I've just ran a scan with Bitdefender 8 Free and got this

C:\Program Files\Common Files\Softwin\BitDefender Scan Server\Plugins\emalware.cvd Infected Trojan.Downloader.Vbs.Small.S
C:\Program Files\Common Files\Softwin\BitDefender Scan Server\Plugins\emalware.cvd Disinfection failed
C:\Program Files\Common Files\Softwin\BitDefender Scan Server\Plugins\emalware.cvd Moved

I deleted it and re-scan to find it is still there.

I'm surprised it is showing up in a Bitdefender file.

Should I be concerned? Should I do anything else?

Ian

The Hammer
September 3rd, 2005, 11:29 PM
{QUOTE-> I've just ran a scan with Bitdefender 8 Free and got this

C:\Program Files\Common Files\Softwin\BitDefender Scan Server\Plugins\emalware.cvd Infected Trojan.Downloader.Vbs.Small.S
C:\Program Files\Common Files\Softwin\BitDefender Scan Server\Plugins\emalware.cvd Disinfection failed
C:\Program Files\Common Files\Softwin\BitDefender Scan Server\Plugins\emalware.cvd Moved

I deleted it and re-scan to find it is still there.

I'm surprised it is showing up in a Bitdefender file.

Should I be concerned? Should I do anything else?

Ian <-QUOTE}Run an online scanner such as F-Secure. http://support.f-secure.com/enu/home/ols.shtml

Firecat
September 3rd, 2005, 11:31 PM
See if you can upload the file to Jotti's Malware Scanner (http://virusscan.jotti.org)

Iangh
September 3rd, 2005, 11:38 PM
Firecat

I thought about using Jotti but I can't see emalware.cvd, I can see emalware.ivd and emalware.xmd.

Bitdefender is finding a file I cannot see?

Hammer

F-secure doesn't get rid of trojans according to site. Should I still bother to use it?

Ran Escan yesterday and it didn't find anything using KAV signatures.

Thanks
Ian

Firecat
September 3rd, 2005, 11:46 PM
If KAV signatures didn't find it, F-Secure will most probably not find it either. Try contacting BitDefender support.

The Hammer
September 3rd, 2005, 11:48 PM
{QUOTE-> Firecat

I thought about using Jotti but I can't see emalware.cvd, I can see emalware.ivd and emalware.xmd.

Bitdefender is finding a file I cannot see?

Hammer

F-secure doesn't get rid of trojans according to site. Should I still bother to use it?

Ran Escan yesterday and it didn't find anything using KAV signatures.

Thanks
Ian <-QUOTE}Panda does. http://www.pandasoftware.com/products/activescan/com/activescan_principal.htm

Iangh
September 3rd, 2005, 11:49 PM
I just ran the quarantine file through jotti and all clear.

I'll email Bitdefender and see what they say.

Thanks
Ian

Iangh
September 4th, 2005, 12:09 AM
Live support at BD tell me it is a false-positive.

You can't help but be impressed by companies that offer live support.

Ian

JerryM
September 4th, 2005, 09:48 AM
BD gave me the same message this AM. I remembered this thread from yesterday, and figured it was a false positive. I am glad the BD team is aware of it. I guess they will take care of it in an update.

Thanks for the info.
Jerry

JerryM
September 4th, 2005, 06:23 PM
I just completed a scan with BD and came up clean. Maybe the BD team fixed it with the latest updates.
I hope so.
Jerry

Tom772
September 4th, 2005, 08:16 PM
{QUOTE-> I just completed a scan with BD and came up clean. Maybe the BD team fixed it with the latest updates.
I hope so.
Jerry <-QUOTE}hi guys, i get the same problem, yesterday BD couln't clean the file, so it moved it to the 'infected' file folder in program files. Today there was a large update that seems to have sorted the probelm!! All very strange, Imagine a AV trying to clean itself!!:) T

Firecat
September 5th, 2005, 01:22 AM
I heavily suspected the problem to be a case of FPs, because of the fact that KAV signatures did not find anything, and jotti too came up negative.

And yes, BD's support impressed me very very much. :)

Kielty
September 11th, 2005, 05:12 PM
Same problem here. BD support was excellent. They advised a mistake at their end in the update file. Told not to worry all is ok...

Very impressed with the support.

RejZoR
September 11th, 2005, 05:51 PM
This is the first time i see AV picks its OWN files as malware. Funny indeed ;D

Tweakie
September 11th, 2005, 06:29 PM
{QUOTE-> This is the first time i see AV picks its OWN files as malware. Funny indeed ;D <-QUOTE}

It happened a long time ago with a rebadged version of Viguard (In-Defense). The funny thing is that it happened during a test performed (and published) by the Virus Bulletin.

http://www.virusbtn.com/issues/virusbulletin/backissues/1998/199811.pdf

Iangh
September 12th, 2005, 04:53 AM
What I didn't post in my initial post is that a few weeks earlier BD found a trojan in Ewido uninstall.

After an update it wasn't there.

Strange.

Ian