nod32's trojan detection is getting worse

[trojan]

nod32's trojan detection rate is sadly getting worse almost everyday im finding alltypes of malware that nod simply is not detceting

you can see in this pic that nod32 is 1 on only a few av's that are not detecting this file im finding this really comman at the moment 1 of the reasons why i chose kav over nod32 ;D

[Live]

In the av-comparatives test (August 2005), nod32 did better than McAfee at detecting trojans...a screenshot does not mean anything...

[pc-support]

And why is your pc full of trojans and malware on a daily basis? Stop visiting dodgy websites and you won't have the problem.

[GaryRW]

I find it very interesting that no info/discussion about non-virus malware detection is being discussed here. I run ZA Pro 6 with anti-spyware off to allow NOD32 maximum exposure. I'm getting no non-virus hits at all; at least in the logs. When I periodically scan with Adaware, Sybot S&D I get almost all cookies, which straddle the fence. So I'm not even getting the non-virus threatware traffic to really see if NOD32 is intercepting.

So again I ask the NOD32 community: are your experiences showing NOD32 catching non-virus threatware?

[GaryRW]

And why was this thread moved from the NOD32 forum?

[trojan]

{QUOTE-> And why is your pc full of trojans and malware on a daily basis? Stop visiting dodgy websites and you won't have the problem. <-QUOTE}

i have no problem lol nod32 has the problem just another trojan i have found that nod32 users should beware of maybe ill post a new troj everyday that nod32 doesn't detect just to make you nod32 fans smile 8)

[trojan]

{QUOTE-> In the av-comparatives test (August 2005), nod32 did better than McAfee at detecting trojans...a screenshot does not mean anything... <-QUOTE}

mcafee lol as i said i use kav not mcafee so whats your point 8)

[Stan999]

{QUOTE-> i have no problem lol nod32 has the problem just another trojan i have found that nod32 users should beware of maybe ill post a new troj everyday that nod32 doesn't detect just to make you nod32 fans smile 8) <-QUOTE}

I suppose anyone could post those.

http://virusscan.jotti.org/
"You're free to (mis)interpret these automated, flawed statistics at your own discretion. For antivirus comparisons, visit AV comparatives."



Scanner Malware name
AntiVir X
ArcaVir X
Avast X
AVG Antivirus X
BitDefender X
ClamAV X
Dr.Web X
F-Prot Antivirus X
Fortinet X
Kaspersky Anti-Virus X
NOD32 a variant of Win32/TrojanDownloader.Iciko.E
Norman Virus Control X
UNA X
VBA32 X

[JRCATES]

{QUOTE-> mcafee lol as i said i use kav not mcafee so whats your point 8) <-QUOTE}

Stick around here long enough, Trojan, and you'll learn soon enough that it is simply fashionable for many to bash one of "the big boys".....

[trojan]

{QUOTE-> I suppose anyone could post those.

http://virusscan.jotti.org/
"You're free to (mis)interpret these automated, flawed statistics at your own discretion. For antivirus comparisons, visit AV comparatives."



Scanner Malware name
AntiVir X
ArcaVir X
Avast X
AVG Antivirus X
BitDefender X
ClamAV X
Dr.Web X
F-Prot Antivirus X
Fortinet X
Kaspersky Anti-Virus X
NOD32 a variant of Win32/TrojanDownloader.Iciko.E
Norman Virus Control X
UNA X
VBA32 X <-QUOTE}


lmao post the actual virus total screen shot might be a little more Convincing

[trojan]

{QUOTE-> Stick around here long enough, Trojan, and you'll learn soon enough that it is simply fashionable for many to bash one of "the big boys"..... <-QUOTE}

lol more like making fun of the little guy which i hear is also quite fashionable!! :)

[trojan]

another 1 just for fun

[Stan999]

{QUOTE-> lmao post the actual virus total screen shot might be a little more Convincing <-QUOTE}

No reason at all to change anything if that is what you are inferring.:)

KAV will also miss some that NOD and other AVs will detect.

[trojan]

yes ofcourse kav will miss a few but nod is missing so many, now think if i can find malware freelly availble that nod isn't detecting but kav is then anyone can . i will post any that kav dont get aswell so far out of only 6 recently new trojans kav got them all nod missed 3 if you can find some that kav is not detecting post them. i never said kav was perfect just better! lol and next time post a screen shot atleast

[trojan]

makes me feel that little bit safer knowing that these comman trojans are detected by my antivirus, if i had the misfortune of using nod32 i wouldn't feel as safe knowing anyone can download trojans and infect me
if i was a nod32 user i would be thanking my firewall for saving me and probley checking my logs as we speak lol :)

[Stan999]

{QUOTE-> yes ofcourse kav will miss a few but nod is missing so many, now think if i can find malware freelly availble that nod isn't detecting but kav is then anyone can . i will post any that kav dont get aswell so far out of only 6 recently new trojans kav got them all nod missed 3 if you can find some that kav is not detecting post them. i never said kav was perfect just better! lol and next time post a screen shot atleast <-QUOTE}

LOL, keep posting away. I have much better things to do.:)
Both KAV and NOD are good. I use them both on different machines. Currently KAV has the edge on reactive detection while NOD can provide better proactive detection.

[likuidkewl]

{QUOTE-> And why was this thread moved from the NOD32 forum? <-QUOTE}

Because the ESET gods said so. :)
Thier response will be something along the lines of the Official NOD32 forum is for support, etc.

Other than that this thread is a joke, with a simple search you will see that using an AT with your AV is the best approach, the layered approach.

[trojan]

{QUOTE-> LOL, keep posting away. I have much better things to do.:)
Both KAV and NOD are good. I use them both on different machines. Currently KAV has the edge on reactive detection while NOD can provide better proactive detection. <-QUOTE}

still waiting for an example!! yes i have them both aswell its just nice to no what trojans nod32 is not detecting finding trojans kav doesn't detect is a little harder guess ill leave you now to go do your better things lmao

screen shot <<< press print screen then open paint click edit and paste or do you like copying quotes from websites its just a pic is a little more authentic

[dog]

Trojan ... I don't see the purpose of your posts or this thread. But rather than wasting everyones time trying to be destructive, why don't you submit those samples to every AV company that doesn't detect your reported 'malware', then they can analyze them and add detection if necessary.

Regards;

Steve

[Stan999]

A layered approach is good.:)

Not at all hard to find one.:) Just took a look at Jotti's

[The Hammer]

{QUOTE-> makes me feel that little bit safer knowing that these comman trojans are detected by my antivirus, if i had the misfortune of using nod32 i wouldn't feel as safe knowing anyone can download trojans and infect me
if i was a nod32 user i would be thanking my firewall for saving me and probley checking my logs as we speak lol :) <-QUOTE}
Hooray Go Team GO. You make a excellent cheerleader for KAV but a lousey Av critic. :P

[trojan]

{QUOTE-> Trojan ... I don't see the purpose of your posts or this thread. But rather than wasting everyones time trying to be destructive, why don't you submit those samples to every AV company that doesn't detect your reported 'malware', then they can analyze them and add detection if necessary.

Regards;

Steve <-QUOTE}

how am i being destuctive, the point is obviously to find commany available trojans that nod32 and kav are not detecting is this forum a free forum or does eset call the shots im begining to wonder. and do you not know that virus total submit samples?? since i have uploaded them allredy "note the screen shots" my guess is that they will be detected by tommorow

[trojan]

stan999 coool that screen shot how did you do it lol thats much more convincing however i have conflicting results

[The Hammer]

{QUOTE-> how am i being destuctive, the point is obviously to find commany available trojans that nod32 and kav are not detecting is this forum a free forum or does eset call the shots im begining to wonder. and do you not know that virus total submit samples?? since i have uploaded them allredy "note the screen shots" my guess is that they will be detected by tommorow <-QUOTE}It's more in how you say it than what you say. You might as well say NOD user=Idiot.

[Stan999]

Well the fact is that KAV didn't detect it in that file per Jotti's scanner.
However a number of other AVs did.:)

[Atomic_Ed]

You know, not that I am giving any credibility to this thread nor bashing Nod in any way, but I can tell you that when I was testing various AVs for my new x64 system, I did find that Avast! Pro found more malicious things on web sites than Nod did for me. I personally felt safer running Avast! Pro so I purchased it over Nod. Just my little experience in trial with both products. Yes I see the test results and how great Nod is supposed to be over alot of the others, but when I can visit the same sites with both products and only Avast! detected the threat, then thats what made up my mind. Again I am not bashing Nod in any way but I personally feel its trojan detection is not on par with some of the others out there.

[trojan]

{QUOTE-> It's more in how you say it than what you say. You might as well say NOD user=Idiot. <-QUOTE}

nope i chose nod as my second av, i find trojans more interesting all im saying is kav is better for detecting trojans nothing more i wouldn't claim that kav is better at detecting virus because i dont belive it is you need to calm down a little with the idiot thing your acting like a bunch of old ladys lol

[trojan]

{QUOTE-> You know, not that I am giving any credibility to this thread nor bashing Nod in any way, but I can tell you that when I was testing various AVs for my new x64 system, I did find that Avast! Pro found more malicious things on web sites than Nod did for me. I personally felt safer running Avast! Pro so I purchased it over Nod. Just my little experience in trial with both products. Yes I see the test results and how great Nod is supposed to be over alot of the others, but when I can visit the same sites with both products and only Avast! detected the threat, then thats what made up my mind. Again I am not bashing Nod in any way but I personally feel its trojan detection is not on par with some of the others out there. <-QUOTE}

your making me scared of the nod police now

[ErikAlbert]

{QUOTE-> Trojan ... I don't see the purpose of your posts or this thread. But rather than wasting everyones time trying to be destructive, why don't you submit those samples to every AV company that doesn't detect your reported 'malware', then they can analyze them and add detection if necessary.

Regards;

Steve <-QUOTE}
I concur. Always report to the right people. Saves alot of time too.

[The Hammer]

{QUOTE-> makes me feel that little bit safer knowing that these comman trojans are detected by my antivirus, if i had the misfortune of using nod32 i wouldn't feel as safe knowing anyone can download trojans and infect me
if i was a nod32 user i would be thanking my firewall for saving me and probley checking my logs as we speak lol :) <-QUOTE}Sounds like your talking down to the NOD users from a soapbox here regarding their "misfortune".

[trojan]

i think nod32 is the second best scanner around after kav. that is why i am comparing the two products and since trojans are what im most interseted in im comparing my experances of thier detection rates,why this causes offence i can only wonder what the nod police have done to some of the people on this forum! ;D

[The Hammer]

::) {QUOTE-> your making me scared of the nod police now <-QUOTE}They know where you live. There's a knock at your door right now. Go with them quietly.

[Stan999]

Oops! Another one at Jotti's

[trojan]

{QUOTE-> ::) They know where you live. There's a knock at your door right now. <-QUOTE}

lol i can belive that they seem to have many "cyborgs" that post here

[The Hammer]

:D {QUOTE-> lol i can belive that they seem to have many "cyborgs" that post here <-QUOTE} We are the NOD. You will be assimilated. Resistance is futile.

[trojan]

nice1 stan1! 8)

[Stan999]

BTW, this is a silly little thread. As noted on Jotti's site:

You're free to (mis)interpret these automated, flawed statistics at your own discretion. For antivirus comparisons, visit AV comparatives

[WSFuser]

is thread just for bashing nod32? like stan999 posted:

"You're free to (mis)interpret these automated, flawed statistics at your own discretion. For antivirus comparisons, visit AV comparatives."

i dont judge an AV by the jotti scan results. instead i focus on having a layered approach to security. i use ewido (AT), avast (email, web shield, and standard shield disabled.) and PG and Online Armor (both HIPS). i also have various other tools for system hardening and antispyware.

[dog]

Trojan ... If you wish to continue taking general shots at NOD and NOD users this thread will be closed. If you wish to add something of value and contribute in a positive way please do so, but don't continue down this path - as there is NO purpose. ;)

[mvdu]

I don't think anyone is doubting that KAV has better detection of trojans than NOD. Sometimes NOD is practically the only one to miss a trojan - but I have seen its heuristics come through a few times. So all is not lost with NOD. There's a free site that was mentioned here that offers a codec that has a trojan - NOD detects it as a variant, while KAV still misses it.

Right now NOD32 lags behind KAV, but NOD32 has come a long way.

[Mannaggia]

You might as well give up Trojan. You can't win here. You vill neva say anyzing bad about NOD32 or it's zee cooler for you. ;) ;D

[The Hammer]

{QUOTE-> You might as well give up Trojan. You can't win here. You vill neva say anyzing bad about NOD32 or it's zee cooler for you. ;) ;D <-QUOTE} Yes. Stalag 32. :)

[Mannaggia]

{QUOTE-> Yes. Stalag 32. :) <-QUOTE}


Yah! :)

[trojan]

{QUOTE-> BTW, this is a silly little thread. As noted on Jotti's site:

You're free to (mis)interpret these automated, flawed statistics at your own discretion. For antivirus comparisons, visit AV comparatives <-QUOTE}

lol silly thread but you cant stop posting!! and im not knocking nod32 users thats just the way "your taking it" lol very sad! its only software dude im not (insulting your mother) maybe your taken this a bit to seriously, and by all means close the thread if that makes you happy :D

[rdsu]

All of us know that KAV have a better detection than NOD32 and all the other AV's, but NOD32 are doing an great job to improve this area as we can see on the last test of AV-Comparatives...

Even the "worst" AV can detect something that the "best" AV don't detect, and so on...

[trojan]

{QUOTE-> All of us know that KAV have a better detection than NOD32 and all the other AV's, but NOD32 are doing an great job to improve this area as we can see on the last test of AV-Comparatives...

Even the "worst" AV can detect something that the "best" AV don't detect, and so on... <-QUOTE}
dont knock nod32 if the nod police dont get you the rest of the nod cyborgs will cry :'(

[trojan]

{QUOTE-> Trojan ... If you wish to continue taking general shots at NOD and NOD users this thread will be closed. If you wish to add something of value and contribute in a positive way please do so, but don't continue down this path - as there is NO purpose. ;) <-QUOTE}
people seem to be happy to post to this thread whilst calling it stupid at the same time why is there a need for you to step in ?

[dog]

{QUOTE-> people seem to be happy to post to this thread whilst calling it stupid at the same time why is there a need for you to step in ? <-QUOTE}Well your trolling has gone far enough. :) Why -> It's what we do (Maintain the integrity of the forum) ... We aren't here to senselessly bash any product ... if that's your pleasure, please fell free to hang your hat elsewhere.

Seeing as you failed to learn from the insight others have shared, and are posting only to incite, this thread is now closed.

Regards;

Steve