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StevieO
August 28th, 2005, 07:11 PM
Here's list i put together of AT whilst cruising some sites for info. Some you will be aware of, others maybe not.

In alphabetical order -


Anti Trojan Elite - http://www.remove-trojan.com/index_ate.php

Anti-Trojan Shield - http://www.atshield.com/

a-squared - http://www.anti-trojan.net/en/

BOClean - http://www.nsclean.com/boclean.html

Digital Patrol - http://www.proantivirus.com/en/index.php

Ewido - http://www.ewido.net/en/

Hacker Eliminator - http://www.lockdown2000.com/

PC DoorGuard - http://www.trojanclinic.com/pdg.html

Tauscan - http://www.agnitum.com/products/tauscan/

The Cleaner - http://www.moosoft.com/

Trojan Guarder - http://www.your-soft.com/download.htm#TrojanGuarder

TrojanHunter - http://www.misec.net/trojanhunter/

Trojan Remover - http://www.simplysup.com/tremover/details.html

TrojanShield - http://www.trojanshield.com/


Hope it's of some use,


StevieO

mercurie
August 28th, 2005, 07:53 PM
Wow. Good list. Seeing them altogether like that...well I just did not really consider there are more dedicated AT's then you think. Even though I am sure someone has posted a list before it just goes to show you how much I favor BoClean and have never really ventured any farther. ;D ;)

JRCATES
August 28th, 2005, 09:28 PM
-{ Quote: "

*a-squared - http://www.anti-trojan.net/en/

*BOClean - http://www.nsclean.com/boclean.html

*Ewido - http://www.ewido.net/en/

Tauscan - http://www.agnitum.com/products/tauscan/

The Cleaner - http://www.moosoft.com/

*TrojanHunter - http://www.misec.net/trojanhunter/

" }-

My guess is these are the ones that at most widely used by the majority, with the 4 highlighted being the major players. Personally, I'm using TrojanHunter (licensed) and A-Squared (free), and will likely be checking into ewido (possibly full for RT protection) once 4.0 is released.....

nicM
September 12th, 2005, 11:26 PM
nice list ! :)

I've read about a free AT called Swat-It ( http://swatit.org/ )

anyone ever heard about this one ? ???

bigc73542
September 12th, 2005, 11:31 PM
The last I read about swat-it was it has an extremely small database if it is even supported anymore.

nicM
September 12th, 2005, 11:47 PM
Ok bigc, Thanks for the info :)

was just browsing their site, and they provide a pay-version of that soft, and even another AT ( http://hacker-eliminator.com/ ), not free either: never heard about...

toploader
September 23rd, 2005, 07:39 PM
Trojan Slayer (http://leithauserresearch.com/ts.html)

Arup
September 23rd, 2005, 11:08 PM
http://www.filseclab.com/eng/products/twister.htm

Another one.

chaos16
October 9th, 2005, 03:56 PM
I got Ewido and a-squared free are there any other antitrojan there that are free and good?

bellgamin
October 9th, 2005, 10:45 PM
Thanks for this list.

A suggested enhancement -- indicate which AT programs have real-time monitors and which have on-demand scanners. For example, Trojan Remover has ONLY an on-demand scanner. The same is true for A-squared's FREE version. Conversely, BOClean has real-time monitor only.

Mele20
October 10th, 2005, 12:30 AM
BoClean can scan one file on demand. So, it has semi-on demand scanner. On demand scanner is not needed because a trojan does no harm until executed and at that moment BoClean springs into action. Just as a virus in a zipped file does no harm until the unzipped and executed.

Paranoid2000
October 10th, 2005, 04:50 AM
Yeesh, I can see why some of these programs don't get coverage here:

Anti-Trojan Elite: (http://www.remove-trojan.com/index_ate.php) "Real-time system protect. Stop the trojan before it bring destory."

SwatIt: (http://swatit.org/) "Swat It was independently tested against popular commercial scanning software and we were absolutely delighted by the results." (And how! The independent test for some reason failed to mention small details like the size of the malware database used - but taking the number reported in the Panda screenshot would indicate that SwatIt detected 62 out of 58,174 giving a detection rate of 0.11%. Wow!)

Anti-Trojan Shield: (http://www.atshield.com/) "Leading-edge anti-Trojan scanning and removal technologies." A nice looking website but their trojan encyclopaedia seems to be missing a few recent entries like Flux, Agobot or SDBot or old DDoS trojans like Trinoo, Tribe Flood Network or Stacheldraht.

Digital Patrol: (http://www.proantivirus.com/en/about/) For a company based in Vancover, I'd expect something better than "Proantivirus Lab creates best anti-trojan and anti-spyware security solutions" or "You will receive your registration code for activaye the trial version immediately after your order completes."

illukka
October 10th, 2005, 07:09 AM
hmm maybe thre should be a list of "rogue AT software" too... LOL

these are the trustworthy ones:-{ Quote: "

a-squared - http://www.anti-trojan.net/en/

BOClean - http://www.nsclean.com/boclean.html

Ewido - http://www.ewido.net/en/

The Cleaner - http://www.moosoft.com/

TrojanHunter - http://www.misec.net/trojanhunter/" }-

ive tested some(most) of the others

loads of useless crap that dont detect s**t :(
ive actually had users in deep s**t because their "at-scanner" deleted some important files as trojans.....

i seem to remember that nautilus did test some of these too with bad results...

ghost17
October 13th, 2005, 09:11 PM
http://www.emsisoft.de/en/software/scanner/

now, check this one out if you haven't already done it:

"To demonstrate the effectiveness of a-squared" they "decided to test a-squared against several well known software products. The test set contained Trojans, Worms, Dialers and Spyware for which a-squared was updated between January 01, 2005 and March 31, 2005. Please note that is not an independent test." They "just scanned all our new files of the first quarter of 2005."

if true (which i believe, after having used it for long), rather impressive.

i use it for years now, and i am quite feeling it is much better now, with it's enhanced ids functions, than tds3 ever was. (not so "multifunctional" of course, but i don't like playing around too much with one single prog)

by the way, ewido is fully compatible to that very prog that i consider at the moment to be by far the best anti trojan prog ever.

a squared rules! (for me, at last)

get the full version, though.

then decide for yourself, if i was right. i am quite sure i still am.

would be interesting what WAYNE thinks about the newest version of it.

illukka
October 14th, 2005, 06:20 AM
i wouldnt call that test very reliable
also it is ridiculous to test adaware against worms.. :o

Thkrdev
October 25th, 2005, 12:03 PM
I'm the author of Anti-Trojan Elite, could you give me some reasons for my product? Thanks for your suggestions!

tuatara
October 25th, 2005, 01:18 PM
hi illukka,
-{ Quote: "
i wouldnt call that test very reliable
also it is ridiculous to test adaware against worms." }-

Unless they sell it like that, as a Anti-Malware product instead of a Anti Spyware product
(and i i quote Emsisoft / this is on the same page) :

-{ Quote: "What is astonishing is that each of the tested products are advertised as protecting you from Trojans, Worms, Dialers and Spyware." }-

If that is true, that Emsisoft has all reasons to compare these products
this way.

and that is true, they are correct see this:

-{ Quote: "
The Ad-Aware SE Plus Edition allows you to http://www.lavasoft.com/images/rightarrow.gif Scan fixed and removable drives, memory and Windows registry http://www.lavasoft.com/images/rightarrow.gif Protect against aggressive adware, browser hijackers, data miners, dialers, DLL injection, keyloggers, selected Trojans, tracking cookies and many more types of malicious content http://www.lavasoft.com/images/rightarrow.gif Block registry modifications and malware installation attempts in real time http://www.lavasoft.com/images/rightarrow.gif Detect not only known but also unknown variants of malware by using the Code Sequence Identification (CSI) technology http://www.lavasoft.com/images/rightarrow.gif Automatically update reference file http://www.lavasoft.com/images/rightarrow.gif Take advantage of a fully featured quarantine support http://www.lavasoft.com/images/rightarrow.gif Customize operation including setting up schedules for scan and reference file updates http://www.lavasoft.com/images/rightarrow.gif Log information about scans and malicious content removals" }-

You can find this on: http://www.lavasoft.com/
and click on 'Ad-aware plus' on the left site.

Don Pelotas
October 26th, 2005, 10:06 AM
Hi Tuatara

In the link to Lavasoft.com you provided, it specifically says."Detection, Prevention and Protection of Spyware", the only mention of trojans this:"selected Trojans".

Ad-Aware is not a anti-trojan program just because it has a selected amount of trojan signatures. The test had 86% trojan, so Ad-Aware was destined to make a poor impression and including it in the test was ridiculous.

IMO opinion the test is only meant to make A2 scanner look good, it's not exactly a new way of doing it, some have done it before like The Cleaner for example, not very reliable for making a choice when shopping for AT's. :)

tuatara
October 26th, 2005, 11:27 AM
-{ Quote: "Ad-Aware is not a anti-trojan program just because it has a selected amount of trojan signatures. The test had 86% trojan, so Ad-Aware was destined to make a poor impression and including it in the test was ridiculous.

IMO opinion the test is only meant to make A2 scanner look good, it's not exactly a new way of doing it, some have done it before like The Cleaner for example, not very reliable for making a choice when shopping for AT's." }-

Perhaps, this is a surprise but i totally agree DON, of course this is why the test has been done.

But the main problem about the whole subject is, that it is not so simple
as it was in the old days, to compare products by names as AT or AV or AS.
Being an ICT-oldy meself, i can remember those days very good. :)

If you compare products now, they almost always have partly overlap
and partly different features.

I do think though, that Emsisoft has a point here, although it
is not said exactly on the webpage of Lavasoft that it prevents you from all Trojans, it does suggest/say? that it is an AntiMalware (also AT) product instead of a AntiSpyware/Adware as we (used) to call it.

Customers get confused, and to be honest, i can understand that.
Although we know better, i know and experience daily,that:

A regular customer doesn't know, and is not interrested, in
WHAT different kinds of malware there are, he just doesn't want ANY of those on his/hers system.

Stacking products without overlap is almost impossible now,
so i think customers will buy only suites in the near future,
or Microsoft must bring out a new OS in the future that
makes all these tools obsolete. (don't expect that).

As i know you have good knowledge of Anti-Virus products,
if a customer asks me what the better one is NOD32 or Kaspersky,
i have the same problem although both are known as AV's.

In my country they have a saying:
"you can't compare apples with pears"

But sometimes one have to decide which software to buy.

So you MUST compare, before you buy!

And there is a lack of good comparisation information!

And of course a product always seems to better on the developer's page.

Personally i don't like tests and reviews, i see to many of them,
one product is absolute number 1 in test A
and is the last in test B

For every test proofing the product is the best,
there is one saying the opposite.

Good thing, otherwise everybody would buy the same product,
and we know what that means.

illukka
October 27th, 2005, 04:29 AM
i failed to find worms listed as things that adaware detects ?

tuatara
October 27th, 2005, 04:35 AM
-{ Quote: "i failed to find worms listed as things that adaware detects ?" }-

You are correct it is not mentioned on their list.

illukka
October 27th, 2005, 04:41 AM
thats what i thought, see post number 15 above and think again how reliable test this is ;D

tuatara
October 27th, 2005, 06:17 AM
It is just how you look at this, you could also conclude that
Adaware is a Anti-Malware product that is uncapable of detecting worms.
Or it has a worms-detection rate of 0%

Again you are correct!
The test is not perfect, the best thing we could have is a test on
HOW all products performed on each item.

And with item i mean
1 Spyware
2 trojans

etc.

Perhaps the numbers would give you a better idea.

With which product would you like to compare Adaware Illuka?
Because i don't think there is 1 that does EXACTLY the same.

Don Pelotas
October 27th, 2005, 09:38 AM
-{ Quote: "With which product would you like to compare Adaware Illuka?
Because i don't think there is 1 that does EXACTLY the same." }-
Hi Tuatara

I'm, not illukka ;), but that is not a hard question to answer IMO, Spy Sweeper, Spyware Doctor, CounterSpy, Spybot, Trend-Micro anti-spyware, McAfee anti-spyware etc would be some of the scanners to fairly compare Ad- Aware with. Some of them will handle more trojans than the others, but adware/spyware should be what these should be tested for, not 86% trojans.

I mean you wouldn't put Nod32, Kaspersky, DrWeb, McAfee or BitDefender in a test with 86% adware/spyware would you? :)

tuatara
October 27th, 2005, 01:33 PM
Hi Don,

Yes i can understand that, although Lavasoft claims that it is more of a malware scanner i also believe this is not really the case.
They had to claim that it is a good Spyware/adware product.

But now that they have advertised with this:

-{ Quote: " The Ad-Aware SE Plus Edition allows you to http://www.lavasoft.com/images/rightarrow.gif Scan fixed and removable drives, memory and Windows registry http://www.lavasoft.com/images/rightarrow.gif Protect against aggressive adware, browser hijackers, data miners, dialers, DLL injection, keyloggers, selected Trojans, tracking cookies and many more types of malicious content http://www.lavasoft.com/images/rightarrow.gif Block registry modifications and malware installation attempts in real time http://www.lavasoft.com/images/rightarrow.gif Detect not only known but also unknown variants of malwareby using the Code Sequence Identification (CSI) technology http://www.lavasoft.com/images/rightarrow.gif Automatically update reference file http://www.lavasoft.com/images/rightarrow.gif Take advantage of a fully featured quarantine support http://www.lavasoft.com/images/rightarrow.gif Customize operation including setting up schedules for scan and reference file updates http://www.lavasoft.com/images/rightarrow.gif Log information about scans and malicious content removals" }-

Makes me think that Emsisoft has the right to compare the products,
but again it would be better if they exactly informed us
how many trojans, how many spyware etc. where found.

The products you've mentioned have perhaps less overlap/ in common (on paper) (i mean what they claim to do themselves) then A2 and Ad-aware
if you read the above.

If i had more time i would test the mentioned products meself
and would report exactly on WHAT they found as well.

No we are comparing tracking-cookies with trojans. ???

I hope that some day, that Kaspersky and A2 and Ad-aware
and any other Anti-Malware poduct AV , AT AV+AT AV+AT+AS etc.
can be compared on one website.
So you can see how many virusses where found by all products
and how many trojans where found by ALL products
How many spyware was found by all products etc.

Then it would be visible how exactly all products would perform.
Now everybody thinks different about it.
And there are NO FACTS.

For example: Personally i am convinced that Kasperksy (AV?)
is a better Anti-trojan product then most specific AT's are.
But there are lots of other specialists that doesn't agree with that.

Which one has the best Anti-Spyware implementation:
NOD32 or Adaware?
And what is the difference? are they far apart or close?

etc. etc.

This would give proof and good insight, this is certainly what we need
in the near future with all the suites that enter the market.

Shall we start a website for this Don?

:)

Don Pelotas
October 27th, 2005, 04:41 PM
-{ Quote: "The products you've mentioned have perhaps less overlap/ in common (on paper) (i mean what they claim to do themselves) then A2 and Ad-aware
if you read the above." }-
That's because you look too much at the brochure, all of them whether it be AV/AT/AS claim to detect almost all types, but it doesn't mean they are strong in all of them.

Allow me to turn everything around. Lets say Lavesoft published a test they made, the test consist of 86% adware/spyware, as expected Ad-Aware detects all 6000 samples, Spy Sweeper, CounterSpy and Spybot detects between 3500-5300, A2 on the other hand comes in at a pityfull 326 detections. Now don't tell me that you as an A2 reseller (no offense intended) will say that this is a meaningfull/credible test?

-{ Quote: "I hope that some day, that Kaspersky and A2 and Ad-aware
and any other Anti-Malware poduct AV , AT AV+AT AV+AT+AS etc.
can be compared on one website.
So you can see how many virusses where found by all products
and how many trojans where found by ALL products
How many spyware was found by all products etc.

Then it would be visible how exactly all products would perform.
Now everybody thinks different about it.
And there are NO FACTS." }-
A nice idea, but probably a completely impossible task, just the shear scale of testing 30-50 different products in a credible testsetup with regular intervals, which the participants can all agree upon.
-{ Quote: "For example: Personally i am convinced that Kasperksy (AV?)
is a better Anti-trojan product then most specific AT's are.
But there are lots of other specialists that doesn't agree with that." }-
You are correct in thinking that at least detectionwise it is as good or better than most of them, but of course not everyone will agree with this and the best of them can certainly add a efficient second layer.
-{ Quote: "Shall we start a website for this Don? :)" }-
Ha, ha, no i would never do that, because of all the c*** we would have to put up with and if we would it correctly, then we would have time for nothing else in our privatelife, but thanks for asking.:)

tuatara
October 27th, 2005, 05:09 PM
-{ Quote: "Allow me to turn everything around. Lets say Lavesoft published a test they made, the test consist of 86% adware/spyware, as expected Ad-Aware detects all 6000 samples, Spy Sweeper, CounterSpy and Spybot detects between 3500-5300, A2 on the other hand comes in at a pityfull 326 detections. Now don't tell me that you as an A2 reseller (no offense intended) will say that this is a meaningfull/credible test?" }-

This is exactly what a mean, and for the record i am also a Adaware reseller, but no offence taken.

And i am not negative about Adaware, this is one of my most recommended
products (like Spybot Search and Destroy etc. etc.)

That is why i wrote that these tests would be more usefull if they
would write how many spywares , how many virusses , how many trojans etc. it found.

At least you could compare the products per item.

In that scenario it would proof just what you say, in your example in the quote above.
On that i agree with you 100% , the only different opinion we have
if Emsisoft has the right to test this way.

Let me put it in other words, i think they have, just as Lavasoft
has the right to compare it the way you wrote:

-{ Quote: "test they made, the test consist of 86% adware/spyware, as expected Ad-Aware detects all 6000 samples, Spy Sweeper, CounterSpy and Spybot detects between 3500-5300, A2 on the other hand comes in at a pityfull 326 detections." }-

And the reason is , on what they write in the brochure , like you've mentioned.

If any company makes these kind of claims,
they mustn't be suprised if they are tested on those criterea.

xxxxx
November 28th, 2005, 06:53 AM
should put KAV in there, given that it's better than most "dedicated AT" products

Rivalen
December 6th, 2005, 02:15 AM
Add DefenseWall HIPS 1,0[Sandbox] to the list.

Price is very attractive since you dont need to pay yearly for lincence to get new updated sign-files - no sig-files needed.

http://www.softsphere.com/

Seems to be a really awesome product.

Best Regards
Rivalen

hypersteroid2ooo
December 17th, 2005, 10:33 PM
-{ Quote: "My guess is these are the ones that at most widely used by the majority, with the 4 highlighted being the major players. Personally, I'm using TrojanHunter (licensed) and A-Squared (free), and will likely be checking into ewido (possibly full for RT protection) once 4.0 is released....." }-


HI, I am new in this forum. Actually I am very interested in anti trojan software that you listed. These product are my own experience Initially I posted this message to Paul since I have the difficulties in login.

A cople months a go I personally held a security test. This test is actually instigated by my curiosity since I heard a lot of hoaxes form the commercial web pages. I let my self open from the attact so I know how these securities work. So, I decided to run a security test by my self by utillising a wild trojan, worm, virusses and spy wares that I got from the following sites:

Edit: Links removed to conform to TOS (http://www.wilderssecurity.com/TOS-Privacy.html).
Please do not post links to trojans, virus or other malware. CrazyM

These sites are a real trojan sites. For number 1. It provides bites like security serial number and etc. The truth is, once you click of any item the trojan files directly installed to your computer
For number 2 is a porn sites based. This sites is quite tricky. It only spread its malware for the first time but periodically it releases its trojan files. For number three, its an education sites back ground

Number1& 2 is a downldr trojan and number 3 is a back door attacker. The first section I used number 3 to test many types firewalls. only a couple firewalls that passed this test namely zone alrm . version6, look'n'stop v 205, outpost pro 3, kerio 4.2 version, Visnetic version. Off the remaining like Sygate and Tiny is very make me disappointing. It could not detect anything whereas the 5 previous Firewalls can alert you on the outgoing connection.

The second section I used to test Number1&2 for virus, spywares and trojan( which is the most difficult one). Sites number2 will installed 1 main trojan files 3 worms 1 dialler and many spyware files. Moreover, sites number 2 is just like a hungry trojan that never let its prey escaped. the trojan file is simultaneously installed to your computer.

From many antiviruses I tried only a small part can pass the test
Dr We can Detect but not removed spy wares files
Mc Afee can detect all worms and viruses but fail to recognise the 1spyware file and left many tracking cookies files
Norton fail to detect 1 worm. This is also followed by G data which made me shocked. F secure, Bit Def, command, Avira, AVG with its silly routine down load, avast and many others can be considered as a mediocre antiviruses.

The best antivirusses in its category are Kaspersky (detect all and fail to remove 1 trojan from number2 trojan), Nod 32( detect all fail to remove the main trojan file number 2). I am very pleased with NOD because even it is a small antivirus program but actually it is a firm program. it detected and removed all even most of the spy wares file. In other words, it is actually go beyond its class capacity. hence, from the economic point of view, it is a lot cheaper than Kaspersky. Overall, these 2 securities are GOOD


At the moment I crave for anti trojan products that can satisfy my wants because the trojan files are remain in my computer. (c/win 32 boobax. c/ win 32 zlt). Trojan hunter can detect but it didn't remove these files clearly to the root in fact some of the trojan file infects trojan hunter prog. a squared is better than trojan hunter. it fail to remove but once any of the infected files are running & try to quitely spread infection it does detect. apart of Bo clean or TDS which one of trojan products can eradicate these trojan files????. I dont want to reinstalled my computer. I want to see which antitrojan product is better.

StevieO
January 17th, 2006, 08:02 PM
Found another to add to the collection. Not available anymore, so just for reference.

Integrity Master

http://www.sharewarejunkies.com/9zwd7/integrity_master.htm


StevieO

No User Name
February 28th, 2006, 06:27 AM
I would like to thank you for compilig this long list. May I suggest that you type freeware, shareware, etc. next to each one so freeloaders or paying softwaware subscribers and those of us who are both can easily find exactly what we are looking for. :D