Securing my system

[abhi_mittal]

My laptop had a HDD failure some days back due to security issues. Luckily, it was replaced by the vendor as it was under warranty
.
I dont want it to be compromised any more since data loss is an issue.

For securing it, I use Avast Prof, PrevX Home, ZA free, spybot, adaware. I want solid protection against trojans, rootkits, spywares and key loggers. My PC regularly gets infected by spywares despite prevx and ZA. ??? >:(

I have a licenced copy of ProcessGuard, which I am not using. Its a little confusing for me.
I am busted :-[ , so I can go for free programs only. What kind of a setup would you guys suggest to maximise real-time protection against malware, trojans and rootkits?

Thanks

[The Hammer]

-{ Quote: "My laptop had a HDD failure some days back due to security issues. Luckily, it was replaced by the vendor as it was under warranty
.
I dont want it to be compromised any more since data loss is an issue.

For securing it, I use Avast Prof, PrevX Home, ZA free, spybot, adaware. I want solid protection against trojans, rootkits, spywares and key loggers. My PC regularly gets infected by spywares despite prevx and ZA. ??? >:(

I have a licenced copy of ProcessGuard, which I am not using. Its a little confusing for me.
I am busted :-[ , so I can go for free programs only. What kind of a setup would you guys suggest to maximise real-time protection against malware, trojans and rootkits?

Thanks" }-Suggest you get tutoring on ProcessGuard in the Diamond CS Forum as you have a licenced copy.

[richrf]

-{ Quote: "I dont want it to be compromised any more since data loss is an issue." }-

I agree, you should try to understand PG. You might also want to do the following:

1) Review your surfing habits and modify those practices that make you more vulnerable to malware.
2) Possibly install the free version of Ewido and run on-demand scans on a regular basis.
3) Get the free version of WinPatrol to monitor some key system files.
4) Scan your system regulary using one of the free online virus scanners - e.g. McAfee, BitDefender.
5) Install the free version of MS Anti-Spyware

Rich

[Get]

In case you're using Internet Explorer(unsafe) use the Firefox (http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/) browser (also install the extensions Adblock (https://addons.mozilla.org/extensions/moreinfo.php?id=10&application=firefox) and Tabbrowser preferences (https://addons.mozilla.org/extensions/moreinfo.php?id=158&application=firefox) ). Make it even safer with Spywareblaster (http://www.javacoolsoftware.com/spywareblaster.html) , Spywareguard (http://www.javacoolsoftware.com/spywareguard.html) (spywareguard only when you're not using Spybot's Teatimer) and last but not least XP-Antispy (http://xp-antispy.org/content/view/12/40/) (read very well the descriptions (mousearrow on name->description on bottom of the screen) of the things you can disable with it before you do so).

[abhi_mittal]

-{ Quote: "In case you're using Internet Explorer(unsafe) use the Firefox (http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/) browser (also install the extensions Adblock (https://addons.mozilla.org/extensions/moreinfo.php?id=10&application=firefox) and Tabbrowser preferences (https://addons.mozilla.org/extensions/moreinfo.php?id=158&application=firefox) ). Make it even safer with Spywareblaster (http://www.javacoolsoftware.com/spywareblaster.html) , Spywareguard (http://www.javacoolsoftware.com/spywareguard.html) (spywareguard only when you're not using Spybot's Teatimer) and last but not least XP-Antispy (http://xp-antispy.org/content/view/12/40/) (read very well the descriptions (mousearrow on name->description on bottom of the screen) of the things you can disable with it before you do so)." }-


Using all of these except XP-antispy.
Do you think that something like Winpatrol or system safety monitor or Processguard has SIGNIFICANT advantages over PrevX Home???

[ErikAlbert]

-{ Quote: "I agree, you should try to understand PG. You might also want to do the following:

1) Review your surfing habits and modify those practices that make you more vulnerable to malware.
2) Possibly install the free version of Ewido and run on-demand scans on a regular basis.
3) Get the free version of WinPatrol to monitor some key system files.
4) Scan your system regulary using one of the free online virus scanners - e.g. McAfee, BitDefender.
5) Install the free version of MS Anti-Spyware

Rich" }-
Based on this thread
http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=93736
I removed WinPatrol, because the combination MSAS (realtime) + SpywareGuard seems to offer more protection, while "MSAS+SG" and WinPatrol overlap eachother.

[abhi_mittal]

-{ Quote: "Using all of these except XP-antispy.
Do you think that something like Winpatrol or system safety monitor or Processguard has SIGNIFICANT advantages over PrevX Home???" }-

Cant afford spyware guard!!!!
Tell meabout free potection

[Notok]

-{ Quote: "Do you think that something like Winpatrol or system safety monitor or Processguard has SIGNIFICANT advantages over PrevX Home" }-No, they both offer very strong protection, although in different areas. If you're still getting infected with Prevx, I doubt ProcessGuard will do you that much better.

-{ Quote: "Cant afford spyware guard!!!!" }-SpywareGuard is free, however I don't know that it would do you that much better than Prevx, although it is very possible that you may find it easier to use.

Really, if you can scrape together the pennies, I would really recommend something like Ewido. I know you said you can't afford those things, but it would really be worth it if you could save up the money. Another thing you could do is jump into a couple betas. For the time taken to report bugs, you can get some pretty good software for free. Prevx 1 may suit you better than Prevx Home.

For free stuff I have agree, go with Microsoft AntiSpyware, along with some other free scanners. Do some hardening and use Firefox either way you go, those will help quite a bit.

[abhi_mittal]

OK
What is the best protection against trojan/rootkit protection?
Do you think ProceeGuard and MSAS will do me good?

[starfish_001]

ProcessGuard and MSAS not a bad combo ..

I look at Host manager http://www.bluetack.co.uk/modules.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=10

and Webwasher web content filter

Take a look at systeminteranals web site some great tools there - rootki finder ec

SecureIt
HardenIT
SafeXp

Links in the forum

[Wake2]

MSAS and SpywareGuard both are free, both excellent programs,
Ewido has I think a 14 day trial which after that reverts to free
also a excellent program, one I liked enough to purchase, and
nope dont believe MSAS prevents against rootkits, PG says it
does, it needs some time on setting it up right, and if you say
you arent comfortable with it, it is up to you to make the time
to learn it, isnt that hard, and if as you say you are constantly
being affected with trojans etc.. would be wise to change your
online surfing habits to eliminate the risks.

Good Luck,

Wake

[ErikAlbert]

MS Malicious Software Removal Tool (Freeware)
http://www.microsoft.com/security/malwareremove/default.mspx
Scans also for rootkits.

If you go the freeware route, just take what you can get, because the choice isn't that big anymore and certainly not for rootkits, trojans, keyloggers, etc.

[Notok]

-{ Quote: "OK
What is the best protection against trojan/rootkit protection?
Do you think ProceeGuard and MSAS will do me good?" }-The thing is that you have to be comfortable using programs like Prevx and ProcessGuard, and know how to react to it's alerts. If you're getting infected with Prevx running (assuming you're getting real spyware, and not false positives or just tracking cookies), then I don't know that ProcessGuard would be much better for you. You would also need to get the paid version of ProcessGuard to protect against rootkit installation. If you're allowing things to infect your system with Prevx (which is also good against rootkits), then you'd probably be better off getting Ewido or BOClean.. they may not be able to stop as many, but (again) if you're just allowing things then it's still better. Just remember that a rootkit is just another trojan, the difference is what it does once it's infected your system. Getting a defense that will prevent trojans from getting on your system in the first place is really the best way to go. Online Armor is one that's very good for this with it's Web Shield, although it's not free.

One thing you might also consider doing is running in a limited user account. If you don't install many programs or constantly tweak the system, then this can be an effective and plausible solution for you. Drivers and services can't install from a limited user account, for example, unless it uses an exploit (which is why you would want to do some hardening). Nothing is 100%, but it's a good start.

[Mucker]

Adding No Script Extension to Firefox may help--very nice tool for me. Another Program I use is Arovax Shield(free) Although it might be duplicating MSAS Real Time protection somewhat. Trend Micro is offering a 30 day trial on their Antispyware 3.0--I am trialing now.

Mucker

[abhi_mittal]

Does MSAS offer protection from TROJANS??

[Don Pelotas]

-{ Quote: "Does MSAS offer protection from TROJANS??" }-
No, only selected trojans, but nothing like a anti-trojan or even your AV does.

[abhi_mittal]

Is there any anti-trojan that provides FREE real-time protection??

[Don Pelotas]

-{ Quote: "Is there any anti-trojan that provides FREE real-time protection??" }-
No, not to my knowledge, not anyone any good at least and the real-time monitor is the most important part. :)

[FatalChaos]

Please forgive me if i am reposting what anyone said, i only read the first post.
Anyway, a list of software to use.

Firewalls (pick one)
Zone alarm - if you are a beginner, you might want to choose this. Pretty good protection, but can run a bit heavy and give internet/bootup slowdowns (rareish)

Kerio 2.1.5 - MAKE SURE TO USE WITH PROCESS GUARD. that being said, its a very good firewall. Make sure to use it with BZ ruleset. Very light, a little more advanced than zone alarm.

Kerio 4.2 free - During the trial period, the HIPS might conflict with MS OFFICE 2003. if so, just turn the hips off. Pretty good firewall, slightly heavier than kerio 2.1.5 but lighter than ZA. If you only use free program, try to learn to use processguard.

Other Software to run
Proccessguard
Spyware Guardian
Spyware Guard
Windows Worm Door cleaner (WARNING: MAY DISABLE INTERNET IN SOME CASES. BE CAREFUL)
Socket Lock
File Checker
Safe XP (just make sure you know what you are doing, i have heard some ppl have problems with this program)
Mozilla Firefox with Javascript control pluggin (forget exact name). Many malware gain access through Javascript, this blocks javascript unless you say it can be run (only say yes when you can't do something you need on the site)
Multiple Spyware Scanners (Spybot, Spyware Doctor. etc)

If data loss is an extrememly bad problem, consider partitioning your hardrive and doing a duel os install (linux, something like Fedora Core 4, Ubuntu, or Xandros is probably best). That way, if one os goes down, you can still access the data (it is possible to access the windows drive from linux and vice versa if you know what you are doing).

[abhi_mittal]

Thanks a ton!

[abhi_mittal]

So...going thru all this I have zeroed in on two security configurations. Please advice which is better:

1) Avast Prof, Ewido Full, Spywre guard, Process guard ful, Arovax Shield, Spybot, Adaware, Spyware Blaster.

2) BD Standard 8/9, Ewido Full, Arovax shield, Spybot, Adaware, Spywre blaster.

Which is the better one? What changes di you think I should make?

[abhi_mittal]

-{ Quote: "So...going thru all this I have zeroed in on two security configurations. Please advice which is better:

1) Avast Prof, Ewido Full, Spywre guard, Process guard ful, Arovax Shield, Spybot, Adaware, Spyware Blaster.

2) BD Standard 8/9, Ewido Full, Arovax shield, Spybot, Adaware, Spywre blaster.

Which is the better one? What changes di you think I should make?" }-

Any comments on these security configs??

[Don Pelotas]

I would probably choose the second config, i have no idea how good/bad Arovax shield is though. :)

[BlueZannetti]

-{ Quote: "So...going thru all this I have zeroed in on two security configurations. Please advice which is better:

1) Avast Prof, Ewido Full, Spywre guard, Process guard ful, Arovax Shield, Spybot, Adaware, Spyware Blaster.

2) BD Standard 8/9, Ewido Full, Arovax shield, Spybot, Adaware, Spywre blaster.

Which is the better one? What changes di you think I should make?" }-I guess I'd nominally go with number 2).

The only details that I would add are: I'd probably look at paid alternatives to Arovax Shield just to make sure I had good coverage of (mainly) registry protection and application blocking. Like Don, I really don't know Arovax's strengths or weaknesses. There are lots of alternatives out there, I'd just look at this area in more detail. Arovax may be fine and it is free at the moment.
With Ewido full, Spybot and AdAware may be duplicates. I'd have these installed but not implement any of the realtime components.Blue

[WSFuser]

-{ Quote: "Any comments on these security configs??" }-
id also go with option 2, but why not keep pg full and spyware guard? as for avorax shield, ive never tried it but its free so if u like it, keep it. a similar program may be "All seeing eye" (http://www.fortego.com/en/ase.html)

[abhi_mittal]

I have only 256 RAM...hence, I cant run just about everything. Need to optimize between security and resources!

[shek]

Here is my current setup. All of them are free.

1. antivirus---antivir personal classic 6.31
2. firewall---jetico 1.0.1.61, with its process attack table, it could fill most of the gaps between PG free and full
3. process monitor---process guard 3.15 free
4. registry monitor----MJ registry watcher 1.2.4.2
5. critical files(such as win.ini) and system area protection---prvex home 2.1, disable all other options.
6. system immunization---spybot 1.4 and spywareblaster 3.4
7. host file protection----hostman 2.1 with all the host files it provides
8. on-demand antivirus----drweb cureit and mcafee command line scanner with GUI from Bart's PE
9. on-demand trojan scanner---ewido 3.5
10. on-demand adware/spyware scanner--- ad-aware se personal 1.6 + spybot 1.4
11. web browser--opera 8.0 + firefox 1.06

[abhi_mittal]

-{ Quote: "
5. critical files(such as win.ini) and system area protection---prvex home 2.1, disable all other options.
" }-
How can I do this?? Looks like this option can minimize popups by prevx!
-{ Quote: " on-demand antivirus----drweb cureit and mcafee command line scanner with GUI from Bart's PE" }-
Where can I find this?

[WSFuser]

in prevx, each setting should have a few options: block, alert, and disable. just disable every setting except for those two.

also u have to setup a bartpe disk (www.nu2.nu/pebuilder) and download optional AV plugins. u can then boot off that disk and run the AV scan.

[shek]

abhi_mittal---
1. In antivirus and temp area, choose startup menu and vulernable files in the query mode. In windows system areas, choose everything under query mode. all the other options are off.

2. for drweb cureit, you could get it from www.drweb.com or ftp://ftp.drweb.com
for mcafee command line scanner, you could find it from http://vil.nai.com/vil/virus-4d.asp and choose win_betaengdat.zip
for its gui, you can get it from bart's pe (http://www.nu2.nu/pebuilder/#download)

[abhi_mittal]

Thanks a lot for your help!

[abhi_mittal]

In view of the problems described on http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=96862, I am running minimal security setup.

I am currently using minimal security- Avast Pro, Antivir PE(Ondemand), WinXP SP2 Firewall, Wormguard, Spybot, MSAS, Spyware Blaster and Adaware free.
I ran a Kaspersky Online scan and found that my system is infected by TROJANS...DAMN!!!
None of my current security applications detect them.

I need strong (and FREE ) proactive solutions to this problem of being infected by Trojans and Spyware. Please suggest what can I add to my arsenal.

Also comment on whther programs like Prevx home, Snoopfree, Arovax Shield etc. can help me in any way and how....

I will appreciate all the help offered in resolving my concerns and SECURING MY SYSTEM.

[tansu]

mcafee virusscan enterprise 8.0i+antispyware module, (select perpetual for home users)
and bitdefender free edition on the background.
also ad-aware will protect you against all..

[abhi_mittal]

-{ Quote: "In view of the problems described on http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=96862, I am running minimal security setup.

I am currently using minimal security- Avast Pro, Antivir PE(Ondemand), WinXP SP2 Firewall, Wormguard, Spybot, MSAS, Spyware Blaster and Adaware free.
I ran a Kaspersky Online scan and found that my system is infected by TROJANS...DAMN!!!
None of my current security applications detect them.

I need strong (and FREE ) proactive solutions to this problem of being infected by Trojans and Spyware. Please suggest what can I add to my arsenal.

Also comment on whther programs like Prevx home, Snoopfree, Arovax Shield etc. can help me in any way and how....

I will appreciate all the help offered in resolving my concerns and SECURING MY SYSTEM." }-
Please suggest free products ONLY...and something that can offer proactive protection.

[tansu]

-{ Quote: "Please suggest free products ONLY...and something that can offer proactive protection." }-
if that was for me, mcafee 8.0i is free for home users, during installation select perpetual subscription..
And also it is a very good proactive defence tool

[abhi_mittal]

-{ Quote: "In view of the problems described on http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=96862, I am running minimal security setup.

I am currently using minimal security- Avast Pro, Antivir PE(Ondemand), WinXP SP2 Firewall, Wormguard, Spybot, MSAS, Spyware Blaster and Adaware free.
I ran a Kaspersky Online scan and found that my system is infected by TROJANS...DAMN!!!
None of my current security applications detect them.

I need strong (and FREE ) proactive solutions to this problem of being infected by Trojans and Spyware. Please suggest what can I add to my arsenal.

Also comment on whther programs like Prevx home, Snoopfree, Arovax Shield etc. can help me in any way and how....


Please Comment Guys!!!

I will appreciate all the help offered in resolving my concerns and SECURING MY SYSTEM." }-

Please help me guys...comment

[Notok]

Maybe what you should look at here is what kind of infections you are getting, and how they got on your system in the first place. Are they coming in through your browser, email, or in things that you're downloading?

[abhi_mittal]

How can I check that>?

[abhi_mittal]

I have got the following infections using the KASPERSKY Online Scanner:

Infected Object Name - Virus Name
C:\System Volume Information\_restore{32B66A29-9C2F-4BE3-A439-D494B9B7EBA7}\RP116\A0036932.exe Infected: Trojan-Spy.Win32.WinSpy.a
C:\System Volume Information\_restore{32B66A29-9C2F-4BE3-A439-D494B9B7EBA7}\RP116\A0036935.exe Infected: Trojan-Spy.Win32.WinSpy.a
C:\WINDOWS\system32\WinHandler.dll Infected: Trojan-Spy.Win32.WinSpy.c

[Notok]

I was hoping there would be some more clues, like a detection in your browser cache, email attachments folder, or downloads folder. Detecting one DLL alone, however, looks to me like it is a remnant from a previously removed infection. The first two are just in your system restore folder, you can delete your previous restore points to get rid of those. Did the KAV online scan delete WinHandler.dll (I don't know if it would or not)? If not, you could delete it yourself.

Do you remember any details of previous scans, such as whether there were any detected malware files in the folders I mentioned in the beginning of this post?

[abhi_mittal]

I deleted the infections manually,

Earlier too Antivir PE had detected infections in my cache and java folders.

[abhi_mittal]

And my browsing habits are very safe!

[abhi_mittal]

-{ Quote: "if that was for me, mcafee 8.0i is free for home users, during installation select perpetual subscription..
And also it is a very good proactive defence tool" }-
Is this a full-featured AV Product with Real-time protection...or is it a ondemand scanner? Can I replace Avast with this free product?

[Pollmaster]

-{ Quote: "I deleted the infections manually,

Earlier too Antivir PE had detected infections in my cache and java folders." }-

If that is the only thing. Should it really be a cause of concern?

[abhi_mittal]

Well yes, it is a concern if your current security setup is not proving very effective in proactively blocking infections.

That is the whole reason why I want to understand what changes should I make to it.

I want to know a setup that can cure the problems I am facing...

Q1. Is Mcafee 8.0i a complete AV program with real-time capabilities? And should I replcae my Avast with it?
Q2. What apps would you suggest to mitigate risks from Trojans and Spyware?

[Pollmaster]

What I mean is. If there are inert in your cache, and don't run should you be concerned?

My real time AV picks up all these stuff routinely or in some cases when my real time AV is off, i find them only after on demand scans. Sometimes they pick up exploits that work only on IE and I'm not for example.

If it doesnt cause infection, does it really matter? Same for if you are getting infected attachments.

[abhi_mittal]

Yes its is a concern...since i have very very sensitive data on my HDD...I work for the world's largest enterprise software company and the data that I carry is extremely valueable...
So I need proactive solutions

[abhi_mittal]

-{ Quote: "Well yes, it is a concern if your current security setup is not proving very effective in proactively blocking infections.

That is the whole reason why I want to understand what changes should I make to it.

I want to know a setup that can cure the problems I am facing...

Q1. Is Mcafee 8.0i a complete AV program with real-time capabilities? And should I replcae my Avast with it?
Q2. What apps would you suggest to mitigate risks from Trojans and Spyware?" }-
Comment

[Vikorr]

Hi Abhi

-{ Quote: "I work for the world's largest enterprise software company and the data that I carry is extremely valueable" }- I hope you don't me commenting, but if they are allowing you to take home extremely valuable data without providing you with security software, then that's a bit silly of them.

I would have expected that they at least supply encryption software to allow you to keep the information encrypted when you are not working on it.

Anyway, as for freeware software, I'd consider :

(I know most of these have probably been named, but too lazy to go back over the posts to check them just at this moment)

Firefox browser with extensions (or Opera)
Thunderbird for emails
Proxomitron (local proxy/web filter)
MSAS (slows my computer a bit)
Antihook
ScriptDefender
Sandboxie

Avast
AVG
AntiVir

IE-SpyAd
SpywareBlaster
Hosts file from MVPS

Ewido
Kaspersky online scanner (and other online scanners)
A2
Rootkitrevealer
Winpatrol
Hijackthis
CWShredder
SpywareDoctor (there's a freeware version)
Spybot S&D
Adaware SE
Arovax Shield
Abtrusion Protector

Using a limited user account in windows
or Windows limited user accounts tool (somewhere on their site)
or the fairly lengthy free AV trials here http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/downloads/default.mspx

And I know it's payware, but have you considered using a combination of limited user account; then also partitioning your harddrive, installing Deepfreeze C:\ and storing all your work files on D:\ .

To my way of thinking it'd certainly be worth the $30. Combine that with Firefox and Thunderbird, and you're doing pretty well.

edit : just found an excellent post by Mrkvonic with links to a lot of freeware
http://spywarewarrior.com/viewtopic.php?p=98671#98671

[BlueZannetti]

-{ Quote: "I need strong (and FREE ) proactive solutions to this problem of being infected by Trojans and Spyware. Please suggest what can I add to my arsenal." }-
-{ Quote: "Yes its is a concern...since i have very very sensitive data on my HDD...I work for the world's largest enterprise software company and the data that I carry is extremely valueable...
So I need proactive solutions" }-abhi_mittal,

If you need good protection and if it is for commercially important data, the company should already have a preset policy of required software and have outfitted you with it.. If they have not, you really should not be trying to fit a free solution to this task. Free options have an important role to serve, but this is not one of them.

Blue

[abhi_mittal]

Thanks

[burger]

-{ Quote: "abhi_mittal,

If you need good protection and if it is for commercially important data, the company should already have a preset policy of required software and have outfitted you with it.. If they have not, you really should not be trying to fit a free solution to this task. Free options have an important role to serve, but this is not one of them.

Blue" }-

Indeed. some of the "free" solutions are not meant for commercial use.

[BlueZannetti]

My personal recommendation would be as follows: One of the AV's rated Advanced+ by av-comparatives.org (http://www.av-comparatives.org/). These are currently Kaspersky AV, NOD32, McAfee, Symantec, or Bitdefender. My personal preference is KAV or NOD32, but I have Symantec on my work laptop and it works fine.
Registry protection afforded by either a dedicated application (RegDefend) or one of the multipurpose "proactive protection" applications (Online Armor, SafenSec, etc.).
Control of execution and/or installation of new applications using either native OS group policies/limited accounts or a dedicated application (Online Armor, SafenSec, etc. again). Options here depend on support levels needed and what this PC will connect to and connection/operating details.
Personal firewall - choose one of the major ones (ZA, Outpost, Symantec, McAfee, LooknStop, etc.).Some of these options may not work well together, so assemble in a stepwise fashion and make sure all is well before adding the next level. As an example, my own work laptop uses Symantec Corporate AV/firewall with tightly defined group policies that lock down XP and allow installations only to selected open areas on the drive and do not touch the registry.

Blue

[abhi_mittal]

-{ Quote: "if that was for me, mcafee 8.0i is free for home users, during installation select perpetual subscription..
And also it is a very good proactive defence tool" }-
Does nyone has the link for mcafee8.0i, which is free for home users?
I had downloadded it from mcafee site, but it was a 90 day trial...maybe i downloaded the wrong stuff....Please gimme the link....

[abhi_mittal]

Waiting....

[Don Pelotas]

-{ Quote: "Waiting...." }-
For someone who wants it all free, you don't have a lot of patience. ;)

You may have to wait forever, McAfee 8.0i is not free, unless you know someone, or for example your company uses McAfee enterprise, mine does for example, but since i don't use it, i have not requested it from my admin. :)

[Blackcat]

-{ Quote: "Does nyone has the link for mcafee8.0i, which is free for home users?
I had downloadded it from mcafee site, but it was a 90 day trial...maybe i downloaded the wrong stuff....Please gimme the link...." }-
McAfee 8.0i is NOT free for Home users.

Only free if your Company or College/School has a site license.

[TeknO]

-{ Quote: "McAfee 8.0i is NOT free for Home users.

Only free if your Company or College/School has a site license." }-
Yes, It's true. McAfee Enterprise product series aren't free or freeware.
There isn't any clear definition about using in home.
You can't buy it for your home, but you can use it :)
It seems to be only one way to use it if your company or college/school have site licence.

[nicM]

in your case, I'd rather use Process Guard full than Wormguard, since Avast pro comes with a script checker.