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nisby79
August 9th, 2005, 12:43 AM
bitdefender 8 free edition release

bitdefender 8 free (http://www.bitdefender.com/site/Main/view/Download-Free-Products.html#)

Ailric
August 9th, 2005, 01:49 AM
Thanks for the update!

Notok
August 9th, 2005, 01:53 AM
I was starting to think they would never update the free version. Thanks!

Mele20
August 9th, 2005, 05:03 AM
Great! Thanks. I was wondering also if the free version would ever be updated.

RejZoR
August 9th, 2005, 05:36 AM
Thats because they'll soon present the 9th series of their flagship product BitDefender...

Mele20
August 9th, 2005, 06:02 AM
I just went back to 7.2. The GUI in the new version is tiny and the font is tiny. I can't read it with out straining my eyes. Plus, it is ugly.

KIS 2006 has a tiny GUI also. I am beta testing it but can't do much testing because I can't read it either without a lot of strain. Ironic that I just posted in the Kaspersky beta forum to ask why they can't make the GUI larger with larger fonts if we want and I said BitDefender's was larger but this version 8 looks just the same size as KIS 2006.

I don't know what I will do. Pick an AV on the basis of its GUI, and more important, the size of the fonts, I guess.:(

rdsu
August 9th, 2005, 08:00 AM
Still have to use all that service processes to use it... :(

Old Monk
August 12th, 2005, 07:37 AM
Hi there

Should I uninstall Version 7 before installing V8 or can I install over V7 ?

Cheers

Jon

Firecat
August 12th, 2005, 04:11 PM
-{ Quote: "I was starting to think they would never update the free version. Thanks!" }-
My psychic powers told me that BD 8 Free will be released shortly before BD9 commercial editions :P;D

World Industries
August 12th, 2005, 11:16 PM
-{ Quote: "My psychic powers told me that BD 8 Free will be released shortly before BD9 commercial editions :P;D" }-

Good guess :) I didnt think they would come out with a new free version also.

World Industries

iwod
August 13th, 2005, 11:05 AM
OH! Please... could some one from BD tell us why is all these Process is needed when BD is not even an on access scanner. Even Ewido listen and they no longer need a process services inorder for Ewido to startup.

But it is free. So i cant really complain about it.............

rdsu
August 13th, 2005, 01:14 PM
-{ Quote: "OH! Please... could some one from BD tell us why is all these Process is needed when BD is not even an on access scanner. Even Ewido listen and they no longer need a process services inorder for Ewido to startup.

But it is free. So i cant really complain about it............." }-
That is why I don't use it... ;)

I don't like this kind of programs that need a lot of processes to run...

WSFuser
August 13th, 2005, 10:15 PM
is there anything new other than the gui/interface?

World Industries
August 14th, 2005, 01:57 AM
-{ Quote: "is there anything new other than the gui/interface?" }-

I dont see any other differences then that....

World Industries

Ned Slider
August 14th, 2005, 04:42 AM
-{ Quote: "That is why I don't use it... ;)

I don't like this kind of programs that need a lot of processes to run..." }-

You can turn off the services and restart them manually when you want to run an on demand scan. It's a pain, but I guess that's what you get from a free product. Agreed, it would be a lot better if you could set the two hefty services to manual and they would automatically start when the program is launched, but that doesn't work - the program simply fails to launch unless the services are started ::)

On the plus side, I did a few quick tests and scan times are relatively quick :)

Ned

rdsu
August 14th, 2005, 07:11 AM
-{ Quote: "You can turn off the services and restart them manually when you want to run an on demand scan. It's a pain, but I guess that's what you get from a free product. Agreed, it would be a lot better if you could set the two hefty services to manual and they would automatically start when the program is launched, but that doesn't work - the program simply fails to launch unless the services are started ::)

On the plus side, I did a few quick tests and scan times are relatively quick :)

Ned" }-
I know that, but like you said, it's very annoying... ;)

abhi_mittal
August 14th, 2005, 07:19 AM
Couldnt agree more with you guys...its a great product with a great bundled pain!

Ned Slider
August 14th, 2005, 10:32 AM
-{ Quote: "I know that, but like you said, it's very annoying... ;)" }-

Indeed :)

Personally, I think it's a shame. I've just done a quick test of scan times of various on demand scanners (ideal as backup scanners) and BitDefender quite impressed me, for a free product, other than this issue. To be honest, I've decided to keep it installed on my test machine for the time being and have just disabled the services. Next time I need to do a HD cleanup, I'll reactivate the services and see how well it performs with regards to detection rates.

Ned

richrf
August 14th, 2005, 10:47 AM
Hi all,

Does the online version of BitDefender use the same scan engine and databtase as the downloadable free version? Thanks.

Rich

FastGame
August 14th, 2005, 10:55 AM
-{ Quote: "Still have to use all that service processes to use it... :(" }-
-{ Quote: "OH! Please... could some one from BD tell us why is all these Process is needed when BD is not even an on access scanner. Even Ewido listen and they no longer need a process services inorder for Ewido to startup.

But it is free. So i cant really complain about it............." }-
-{ Quote: "That is why I don't use it... ;)

I don't like this kind of programs that need a lot of processes to run..." }-
-{ Quote: "Couldnt agree more with you guys...its a great product with a great bundled pain!" }-
-{ Quote: "Indeed :)

Personally, I think it's a shame. I've just done a quick test of scan times of various on demand scanners (ideal as backup scanners) and BitDefender quite impressed me, for a free product, other than this issue. To be honest, I've decided to keep it installed on my test machine for the time being and have just disabled the services. Next time I need to do a HD cleanup, I'll reactivate the services and see how well it performs with regards to detection rates.

Ned" }-
I don't understand the fuss over "all these processes" ???

What harm are they causing ? are they slowing your PC's down ? using the CPU ? spying on you or sending spam ?

@Ned Slider, I'm surprised your annoyed by the processes. I know for a fact your PC can handle those and many more, at least thats how I see it from my 'PC Perspective ;)

WSFuser
August 14th, 2005, 10:57 AM
its just a personal preference, vampiric's quote says it all.
-{ Quote: "That is why I don't use it... ;)

I don't like this kind of programs that need a lot of processes to run..." }-
secondly its not necessary for an on-demand AV to have a service since its only run when needed.

Ned Slider
August 14th, 2005, 11:01 AM
-{ Quote: "I don't understand the fuss over "all these processes" ???

What harm are they causing ? are they slowing your PC's down ? using the CPU ? spying on you or sending spam ?

@Ned Slider, I'm surprised your annoyed by the processes. I know for a fact your PC can handle those and many more, at least thats how I see it from my 'PC Perspective ;)" }-

OK, you got me ;)

The reason I think folks are a little disappointed is that there's absolutely no reason to have unnecessry services constantly running. This is a limited free product that can only do on demand scans. The services should be set to manual and should start only as and when required (by the program). It's the type of product that's only designed to be used maybe once per week, not constantly. Hence the annoyance of having these services constantly running, and they're not overly small either ;)

Ned

richrf
August 14th, 2005, 11:06 AM
-{ Quote: "I don't understand the fuss over "all these processes" ???

What harm are they causing ? are they slowing your PC's down ? using the CPU ? spying on you or sending spam ?

@Ned Slider, I'm surprised your annoyed by the processes. I know for a fact your PC can handle those and many more, at least thats how I see it from my 'PC Perspective ;)" }-

Hi,

Services do consume memory. I am not sure how Windows XP handles memory allocation, and whether it will lock this service in main memory (as opposed to swapping it into virtual memory), but if you are short on main memory, it can affect overall system performance. So it is best, not to load anything that is not needed. It all depends upon how much main memory is available. Personally, I think loading an unnecessary service is a sign of poor program design.

Rich

halcyon
August 14th, 2005, 12:59 PM
I also use Bitdefender 8 Free (used free 7 earlier) and I'm saddened to see that the requirement for automatic services hasn't been fixed.

Also, Even though I have the automatic update (with 3 hour interval) enabled, I have NEVER EVER gotten this thing to update automatically (several different settings, re-installs and manual removes tried).

I always have to update manually from within the console and that works perfectly ok.

Hence, I only run the bdss.exe (Bitdefender Scan Server), because it's needed to run on-demand scans. Neither bdmcon.exe (console) or xcommsvr.exe (Bitdefender communicator) are required for that.

Saves a little bit of memory, but one has to update manually.

All in all, regardless of it's good AV/AT/heuristic performance, I think this is a poor example of how an AV should be able to be configured. If it's on-demand, it should be able to be configured with no running processes.

AntiVir PE can be configure like this (no processes runnng). Also the manual update program works really well (auto-update on startup or by double-click, auto-closes itself after update, does not leave anything hanging int he memory).

I'm not sure the makers of Bitdefender understand this. I at least will not even consider buying it, until they think about fixing these features.

best regards,
halcyon

WSFuser
August 14th, 2005, 01:13 PM
it could be that the update problem is just part of the free version. i never experienced updating problem with bitdefender standard. secondly what are u considering not purchasing.

gerardwil
August 14th, 2005, 01:21 PM
In Holland we say: Never look in the mouth of a given horse ;)

1. That said I am using BD prof at the moment. I don't know of slowing down my system or such whatever. (I see the things in PE)

2. That said I am not an expert on AV's, I change every now and then AV's (licensed one's)

3. I am still anxious to know what people meant with: resource hog, big footprint etc. I really don't know what's big and what's small. Anyone can explain? I will very much appreciate that.

TIA

Gerard

WSFuser
August 14th, 2005, 02:00 PM
@halcyon - just installed bitdefender free and teh auto update works fine. try setting auto update to 1 hour or maybe it has something to do with ur comp or config.

@gerardwil - total mem usage between all of bitdefender free' services and processes is about 24-25K and virtual mem is the same. of course the processes that are active will depend on ur settings in BD.

Ned Slider
August 14th, 2005, 02:03 PM
I'm not sure why anyone would want automatic updates for a program that only provides on demand scanning - why would I want updates every 3 hours for a program I only run once every week or so ???

A simple 'update now' button would suffice IMHO so I can get the latest updates right before performing a scan.

Ned

WSFuser
August 14th, 2005, 03:11 PM
maybe the AU is the reasoning behind having a service.