7900 primaries!

[Pilli]

Looks like TDS3 will soon detect 8000 primaries, today over 10000 variables & others now achieved + 6386 refs.
Well done DCS! ;D

[Jooske]

Congratulations Gavin, DCS, this is great!
A flying squirrel for you, collecting all those nasties.

[Tuulilapsi]

Oh, but those squirrels don't fly, they 'glide' - or whatever. ;)

My early congratulations to DCS for reaching the 8000 primaries milestone. ;D

[Gavin - DiamondCS]

10000 variants is probably misleading, there are also an unknown number of variants which would be detectable ;)

[Mr.Blaze]

ok now i want the data base with all these nastys so i can combine them into one big trojan lol

[Mr.Blaze]

actualy thats a good qustion how many mb with all the nastys combine together be?

you have the data base how big would all the nastys be if here were all put together 500mb what?

[Jooske]

Much more Blaze, but good to realize for practicle reasons a trojan would not be 500MB, you wouldn't accept an email attachment that big would you, or a d/l, would you?
What makes you think so Blaze, something bad in your 1 May drink or visiting the wrong places?

[Gavin - DiamondCS]

Much, much bigger :o

[Wayne - DiamondCS]

Blaze it's against company policy to release such information, but I can tell you that the trojan library alone is currently in the order of several gigabytes, all of which are ZIP compressed. Remember that while viruses are very small (sometimes just a few hundred bytes), most remote access trojans are relatively large - most of the 'fully functional' RATs (ie. with all the fancy features) are usually at least 200kb, and that's just the server itself - then there's the editserver, the client, plugins, supporting DLLs, etc etc...

[Mr.Blaze]

lol so if we were to put all the trojans together it be one really big fat trojan lol

in this corner whighting at one terrabyte WAyne & Gavin 'S BFM TROJAN VS EVERY ONE LOL

MAN THAT BE ONE BIG FAT TROJAN LOL

[Mr.Blaze]

ACTUALY YOU CAN STICK A 700MB TROJAN ON A SEVER AND NAME IT SOME POPULER ISO LOL

By wouldnt they be surprise lol

but the qustion is would any program pick up a trojan that size lol think about it 700mb of towering malware

it be intresting to see if any software could kill it lol

a little z mist a little sub 7 gold modified al ittle of this and that lol

god i wish i was a virus trojan kiddy script writer with the brain of some one from cal tech id make it and id name it lol the BFM echo echo echo lol

[Jooske]

Imagine how much good is done for us protecting against all that!
See one needs the flying squirrel to get them all?
Hear that "Bad Man" sound with it?


Blaze you're using such a nasty each day, name starts with a W and ends with an s and there are many variants. Ahh the big money tolerates such a nasty, glueing half of the world population on their screens, causing addicts, dispair, fighting to get it on it's knees and fighting the fighters, country laws and then the many other uses are not mentioned yet.

[Mr.Blaze]

lol i dont know lol this sound kinda funny but now i see g man and w kinda like the pokemon song got to colect them all lol

anybody know what the very first computer trojan was called

[Jooske]

Why need such a brain Blaze, we have shares in Wayne's!
His Yoda reminds us "If i tell you, i need to kill you"

So much brain sharing with Gavin and Jason and all that for only $50?

What did you ever pay for your W...s trojan?

[Mr.Blaze]

was Acid Shivers the very first trojan ever?

[Pieter_Arntz]

"In 1985 the first Trojan horses appeared, posing as a graphics-enhancing program called EGABTR and as a game called NUKE-LA."

Source: http://poster.hprtec.org/view/poster.php?poster_id=4892

Regards,

Pieter

[Wayne - DiamondCS]

Trojans have been around for a long time now (not as remote access trojans, but usually as malicious programs embedded in harmless programs), but remote access trojans have only been around since the mid-to-late 90s. Acid Shivers is considered one of the first if not the first remote access trojan for the Internet, with NetBus and Back Orifice appearing shortly afterwards and quickly becoming very popular.

[Mr.Blaze]

Back Orifice i think that the nasty that killed me lol it wipes the hard drive right?

[Mr.Blaze]

wow Pieter_Arntz that some really old schol stuffs

i heard storys that the real use of the internet started as bords

kinda like a primitive message bord

also difrent color acess the higher the level the more stuff you new i think it was based on color

algain these are storys i heard when i didnt know anything about pc and wolfinstien was the bomb for video game

[Jooske]

I built long ago systems on videotex-net in prestel, which is X25 protocol, text based; looks like the teletext on your tv, which is still prestel and that same protocol. On that viruses and trojans didn't work, or it should be in later times special dos based viruses, but in those days they were hardly there.
So we could do with the older mcafee 200 viruses detection diskettes :)


In the same time, yes, there were the bulletin boards, BBSes, which are still there. The more advanced kinds had graphics and more, the older kinds looked like your black MSDOS screens, all text based too, ascii to get the colors and forms.
BBSes are interesting, as they can be located very close and thus profide fast downloads of large softwares, there were whole connections/networks of all BBSes linked to one another, etc.

Now internet......which made lot of evolvement too in all these years. And so did the many nasties and the software we need to protect ourselves.

[Mr.Blaze]

intresting stuffs thx joosky