What's the price of antiviruses (cost)

[Simon Phoenix]

I'm looking to buy a new av, I have used Etrust promo, avast free and now use Norman beta with one year free. I am looking for a AV that can run on a not so fast pc, preferrably one that's pretty good with malware as well since I have been getting spyware lately on my pc. If it can handle trojans then that will be excellent.

I currently run norman beta with netveda firewall, that's it oh and processguard free. I would like to run Boclean along with something like Etrust enterprise with the dual engines running together or hell even sav (from college).

I'm looking for new ideas as for security on a old 1.1 celeron, 256mb computer.

[likuidkewl]

SAV 10 IMO whould be a little heavy on that system, Etrust Enterprise is good but not dual engine RTM at the moment. I would take a look at VBA32 ($41 for 2 years), Dr. Web (Buy one get one free), and NOD32($39), for light impact. Free would be definately AntiVir. A little heavier would be GData 2005 ($48), BD($29.95), or Kaspersky($50). Just my .02

[mercurie]

I was about to say Command Anti Virus, Can some one confirm what I am seeing . A price increase from about $20 to nearly $40. :o :o :o :o >:( >:(

[Cap'n Kirk]

It's true. I noticed it last week.

[JRCATES]

The price of AV really depends upon how much effort and research that you put into it. Obviously, there are the "free" AVs (Avast! AVG, etc.), but you can find good prices like those at Software Outlet.com (http://www.softwareoutlet.com/static/avp_landing.html) if you put a little effort into researching prices on-line. For example, if you just buy direct from McAfee....they'll sell you their VirusScan 9 for around $40 ($39.99)...but as you can see from the link above, you can find it for a LOT less....

[Mele20]

If you buy those you get NO support. They are all OEM and that's why they are cheap. I would want support. To me, support is extremely important even if I may never need it. I want it available and good if I do need it. So, I would never buy OEM.

[JRCATES]

{QUOTE-> If you buy those you get NO support. They are all OEM and that's why they are cheap. I would want support. To me, support is extremely important even if I may never need it. I want it available and good if I do need it. So, I would never buy OEM. <-QUOTE}

While it's true that it would be an OEM purchase, the product is still covered by the manufacturer just as if you bought it through a local Best Buy or CompUSA retail outlet, etc., it's just that there are NO manuals or retail box that it normally comes in (only the CD). You still register the product during installation using your email address, etc., like any other form of download. But if someone can live with on-line help, and downloading the owner's manual from the internet, etc., then perhaps saving a ton of money while accepting the fact that there aren't any paper manuals or box to store it in, etc., is at least an option to consider.

[Blackcat]

{QUOTE-> I was about to say Command Anti Virus, Can some one confirm what I am seeing . A price increase from about $20 to nearly $40. :o :o :o :o >:( >:( <-QUOTE}
They have simply gone back to the original purchase price. Their "special offer" has now ended :(

[Mele20]

{QUOTE-> While it's true that it would be an OEM purchase, the product is still covered by the manufacturer just as if you bought it through a local Best Buy or CompUSA retail outlet, etc., it's just that there are NO manuals or retail box that it normally comes in (only the CD). You still register the product during installation using your email address, etc., like any other form of download. But if someone can live with on-line help, and downloading the owner's manual from the internet, etc., then perhaps saving a ton of money while accepting the fact that there aren't any paper manuals or box to store it in, etc., is at least an option to consider. <-QUOTE}


Are you sure you would get FULL tech support if you have an OEM version? I know that with the NAV that came on this box in Nov 2003, I was required to get tech support from Dell. There are almost always differences in the way tech support is handled if the product is OEM whether AV product or some other product like SoundBlaster or Power DVD, etc. With the NAV I had, I could use the knowledge base but not live support. Of course, in the case of NAV, live support is extremely poor so not being able to get anything other than the knowledge base, which is now excellent since Symantec redid their site, would probably be just fine. But what if KAV, for instance, or F-Prot were sold as OEM? And you couldn't get email support? Email support for F-Prot is excellent (I've had it) and I would think email or the 800 number for KAV would be excellent. I wouldn't want to forgo that sort of support because I bought OEM. Maybe some OEM allow you to get regular support...I don't know but I didn't think they did. As for a box...well, that I would throw away so it is not relevant. I do like a manual that is printed nicely for me but, of course, to save a good amount I would be willing to access it on line only. If I had to print it out...ink is so expensive (my printer can't print in greyscale any longer because it has to use the generic XP driver so that means a lot more ink used) and paper also that I don't think I would be saving that much by buying OEM.

Plus, another thought. Those OEM versions are usually only good for 3-6 months so how much would you be saving then? The OEM versions also are ILLEGAL. We had a thread about this some time ago at dslr and a Symantec employee explained about this and DRM also. The OEMs are not supposed to sell/give/ whatever their unused copies to the software outlet sites and those sites sell those copies illegally and Symantec closes them down when they learn about them. Most of those that say OEM are not even REAL OEM. They are pirated versions. I'm speaking of Symantec products here, but I'm sure this is the case with McAfee and the others to a lesser extent. Symantec is the most pirated of all.

[JRCATES]

{QUOTE-> Are you sure you would get FULL tech support if you have an OEM version? <-QUOTE}

McAfee and some of the others do (well, McAfee offers on-line chat and email, etc.)...but I'm not sure as to what each different vendor represented's policy is.

{QUOTE-> There are almost always differences in the way tech support is handled if the product is OEM whether AV product or some other product like SoundBlaster or Power DVD, etc. <-QUOTE}

...but like you said, it probably varies from vendor to vendor.

{QUOTE-> Plus, another thought. Those OEM versions are usually only good for 3-6 months so how much would you be saving then? The OEM versions also are ILLEGAL. <-QUOTE}

http://img351.echo.cx/img351/3909/softwareoutlet0ki.png

As you can see here, updates are good for a year. As for the legality of it, though, I honestly don't know...they do have literature about how they buy it in bulk from various businesses (going out of business, etc.) and are able to sell it so cheaply on their website. Plus, this isn't some "secret" website that I stumbled across...I would think that the vendors could easily put a stop to it if it was.

[mercurie]

{QUOTE-> The price of AV really depends upon how much effort and research that you put into it. Obviously, there are the "free" AVs (Avast! AVG, etc.), but you can find good prices like those at Software Outlet.com (http://www.softwareoutlet.com/static/avp_landing.html) if you put a little effort into researching prices on-line. For example, if you just buy direct from McAfee....they'll sell you their VirusScan 9 for around $40 ($39.99)...but as you can see from the link above, you can find it for a LOT less.... <-QUOTE}True enough but I have never seen, Command AV resold, think you only can get from Authitium (what ever they are). :-\

Thanks for the info BlackCat. I was unaware that it was a special as I got my copy for about $15 special. I thought that was the special and the $20 was the regular price. My renewal is due this month I know I've got my user name and password somewhere. But I did not see the renewal price front and center. Anyone know what that is? I would renew if it is $20 or less.

By the way just for the record the lower cost in my mind gave Command the edge. At $39. I would take a pass and go with NOD32. ;)

[Don Pelotas]

{QUOTE-> SAV 10 IMO whould be a little heavy on that system, Etrust Enterprise is good but not dual engine RTM at the moment. I would take a look at VBA32 ($41 for 2 years), Dr. Web (Buy one get one free), and NOD32($39), for light impact. Free would be definately AntiVir. A little heavier would be GData 2005 ($48), BD($29.95), or Kaspersky($50). Just my .02 <-QUOTE}
The price for Kaspersky Personal is $41.50 for 1 year (30% discount on renewel) and $66.40 for 2 year license. :)

[Technodrome]

{QUOTE-> But I did not see the renewal price front and center. Anyone know what that is? I would renew if it is $20 or less.
<-QUOTE}

Command AV renewal prices:

[bigc73542]

{QUOTE-> Are you sure you would get FULL tech support if you have an OEM version? I know that with the NAV that came on this box in Nov 2003, I was required to get tech support from Dell. There are almost always differences in the way tech support is handled if the product is OEM whether AV product or some other product like SoundBlaster or Power DVD, etc. With the NAV I had, I could use the knowledge base but not live support. Of course, in the case of NAV, live support is extremely poor so not being able to get anything other than the knowledge base, which is now excellent since Symantec redid their site, would probably be just fine. But what if KAV, for instance, or F-Prot were sold as OEM? And you couldn't get email support? Email support for F-Prot is excellent (I've had it) and I would think email or the 800 number for KAV would be excellent. I wouldn't want to forgo that sort of support because I bought OEM. Maybe some OEM allow you to get regular support...I don't know but I didn't think they did. As for a box...well, that I would throw away so it is not relevant. I do like a manual that is printed nicely for me but, of course, to save a good amount I would be willing to access it on line only. If I had to print it out...ink is so expensive (my printer can't print in greyscale any longer because it has to use the generic XP driver so that means a lot more ink used) and paper also that I don't think I would be saving that much by buying OEM.

Plus, another thought. Those OEM versions are usually only good for 3-6 months so how much would you be saving then? The OEM versions also are ILLEGAL. We had a thread about this some time ago at dslr and a Symantec employee explained about this and DRM also. The OEMs are not supposed to sell/give/ whatever their unused copies to the software outlet sites and those sites sell those copies illegally and Symantec closes them down when they learn about them. Most of those that say OEM are not even REAL OEM. They are pirated versions. I'm speaking of Symantec products here, but I'm sure this is the case with McAfee and the others to a lesser extent. Symantec is the most pirated of all. <-QUOTE}



I bought norton av 2005 OEM from online store and it comes with full support just the same as if I purchased it from symantec. The same with McAfee full support with the OEM also. When you install it you have to register it and that qualifies you for full support.

[tiagozt]

eScan Anti-Virus (AV) for Windows
Available as ESD (Electronic Software Distribution) version only

Price for 1 year (in US$) 1 User 25.00
Price for 2 years (in US$) 1 user 35.00
Price for 3 years (in US$) 1 User 43.75
______________________
eScan Virus Control Edition
Available as ESD (Electronic Software Distribution) version only.

Price for 1 year (in US$) 1 User 45.95
Price for 2 years (in US$) 1 User 64.33
______________________
eScan Internet Security Suite
Available as ESD (Electronic Software Distribution) version only.

Price for 1 year (in US$) 1 User 58.95
Price for 2 years (in US$) 1 User 82.53
Price for 3 years (in US$) 1 User 103.16
___________________

[mercurie]

Thanks Technodrome, but this is very sad news indeed no discount what so ever. :( :'(

Command is due to expire in a few short weeks. I will be moving on. :(

Tiagozt,
I will investigate some more but based on the other thread it appears to be heavy. However, those are very reasonable costs for a good av. Thanks for the info. ;)

[Technodrome]

Mercurie,

If you are still interested, this retailer (http://www.kisinc.net/) sells Command AV (under f-prot’s name) for less then $14. I bought a few licenses from them...


tECHNODROME

[Simon Phoenix]

{QUOTE-> SAV 10 IMO whould be a little heavy on that system, Etrust Enterprise is good but not dual engine RTM at the moment. I would take a look at VBA32 ($41 for 2 years), Dr. Web (Buy one get one free), and NOD32($39), for light impact. Free would be definately AntiVir. A little heavier would be GData 2005 ($48), BD($29.95), or Kaspersky($50). Just my .02 <-QUOTE}


Thanks, I installed Antivir free version, ugly interface but pretty good it found a infected dll that f-prot and bitdefender missed. MICRO-128C, was the deleted dll that was found. Overall, I think it's a very strong product, I like it, it can look better but I think it's pretty good and a tad stronger than Avast which killed my laptop. The updates for me on dialup take about 15-20 minutes though.....

Pretty good product....

I'm afraid to buy a av incase I find out it's sucks latter on, lol.

[Simon Phoenix]

{QUOTE-> Mercurie,

If you are still interested, this retailer (http://www.kisinc.net/) sells Command AV (under f-prot’s name) for less then $14. I bought a few licenses from them...


tECHNODROME <-QUOTE}

thanks, checking it out now.

[gerardwil]

Also an option might be to look for magazines which offer sometimes software licenses. Although I don't use them I had a one year KAV and a one year Pestpatrol for less than €10. (july 2005) The reading pleasure alone was worth the price.

Gerard

[tiagozt]

{QUOTE->

The update size of Antivir is a nonsense, as I said in other posts.
The porgram is very good but it's a very bad factor of this antivirus.

[RejZoR]

I wonder how avast! can kill a low end PC... I just don't understand.
I was running NAV2002 and 2003 on Celeron 333 with 64MB of SDR RAM.
Worked just fine. Now how can something as light as avast! (comapred to NAV) kill anyones PC? ???

[Don Pelotas]

{QUOTE-> I wonder how avast! can kill a low end PC... I just don't understand.
I was running NAV2002 and 2003 on Celeron 333 with 64MB of SDR RAM.
Worked just fine. Now how can something as light as avast! (comapred to NAV) kill anyones PC? ??? <-QUOTE}
I don't understand either, i have used Avast on a AMD Duron 800 with 256mb ram, W-Xp and it didn't kill my system, sure it was slower than without, but XP with less than 512mb ram is....... well ;D

[Firecat]

{QUOTE-> eScan Anti-Virus (AV) for Windows
Available as ESD (Electronic Software Distribution) version only

Price for 1 year (in US$) 1 User 25.00
Price for 2 years (in US$) 1 user 35.00
Price for 3 years (in US$) 1 User 43.75
______________________
eScan Virus Control Edition
Available as ESD (Electronic Software Distribution) version only.

Price for 1 year (in US$) 1 User 45.95
Price for 2 years (in US$) 1 User 64.33
______________________
eScan Internet Security Suite
Available as ESD (Electronic Software Distribution) version only.

Price for 1 year (in US$) 1 User 58.95
Price for 2 years (in US$) 1 User 82.53
Price for 3 years (in US$) 1 User 103.16
___________________ <-QUOTE}
While eScan is a good AV, what concerns me is that there have been no major program updates for a very long time now. The engine is still based on KAV 4.5, and the latest program build is still 'h' (2.6.518.80).

[Simon Phoenix]

{QUOTE-> I wonder how avast! can kill a low end PC... I just don't understand.
I was running NAV2002 and 2003 on Celeron 333 with 64MB of SDR RAM.
Worked just fine. Now how can something as light as avast! (comapred to NAV) kill anyones PC? ??? <-QUOTE}

I downloaded the professional version, I have a 1.3 AMD, 256mb, 40 gig laptop.

Not the fastest but Avast didn't work good on my laptop.

[RejZoR]

Thats enough horsepower to run 3 antiviruses simultaneously!?

[likuidkewl]

{QUOTE-> I downloaded the professional version, I have a 1.3 AMD, 256mb, 40 gig laptop.

Not the fastest but Avast didn't work good on my laptop. <-QUOTE}
As stated many times before what works best for you might not be what works best for everyone else.

I am glad to see you are running well, you might want to add a trojan/malware scanner like A-Squared free or Ewido free(I do a custom install and leave off the bg guard) to complete the package.

[mercurie]

{QUOTE-> Mercurie,

If you are still interested, this retailer (http://www.kisinc.net/) sells Command AV (under f-prot’s name) for less then $14. I bought a few licenses from them...


tECHNODROME <-QUOTE}Warning: KIS has sent me an "INVALID SERIAL NUMBER". I tried it three different ways. Many times. Same thing came up.
I will be calling them. They better make it right!! I will keep you posted. :(

[Simon Phoenix]

{QUOTE-> As stated many times before what works best for you might not be what works best for everyone else.

I am glad to see you are running well, you might want to add a trojan/malware scanner like A-Squared free or Ewido free(I do a custom install and leave off the bg guard) to complete the package. <-QUOTE}

I run trend micro on my desktop and norton (90 day trail) on my laptop, I like trend micro so far, no problems, runs light.

Norton starts up a little slow, does okay but kinda slows down my pc.

[Technodrome]

{QUOTE-> Warning: KIS has sent me an "INVALID SERIAL NUMBER". I tried it three different ways. Many times. Same thing came up.
I will be calling them. They better make it right!! I will keep you posted. :( <-QUOTE}


Thanks for the heads up...Keep us posted!



tECHNODROME

[twig]

one nice solution ( even as a back up ) is Kav lite . Kaspersky , as some know, have done a deal with Cyberscrub who now market it . They adverstise kav lite for $49 for 5 yr license. That includes the CD. However when I purchased this, they gave a 20% discount and with out the CD it came to $35. Its being updated by KL .Those who played around with kav lite know that its a real good set and forget all round basic protection . The version they offer is 1.00 but there are to be updates to this .

[mercurie]

Just to update kisinc has said they are sorry for selling invalid serial number and has promised a refund will be coming. They replied within reasonable time.

[Firecat]

{QUOTE-> one nice solution ( even as a back up ) is Kav lite . Kaspersky , as some know, have done a deal with Cyberscrub who now market it . They adverstise kav lite for $49 for 5 yr license. That includes the CD. However when I purchased this, they gave a 20% discount and with out the CD it came to $35. Its being updated by KL .Those who played around with kav lite know that its a real good set and forget all round basic protection . The version they offer is 1.00 but there are to be updates to this . <-QUOTE}
But then, will it be updated to have the forthcoming KAV 6.0 engine?

[.:Mac:.]

mecurie, http://www.myvirushelp.com resells Command AV for Mac and Windows

[.:Mac:.]

actually http://store.myvirushelp.com should be the URL on the left side select the authentium section

[mercurie]

Thanks for the thought Mac, but to much $$. I was looking for a discount. This is full load price. :(

[gerardwil]

I bought today (boxed in the local shop) Bitdefender 8 Professional with Pestpatrol and 2 years updates for €44.99. This package is for 2 licenses (desk and lap).

Gerard