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bibbe
April 27th, 2003, 02:05 PM
Has anyone tried the new extendia antivirus avk pro and if so, what is your opinion of it.

bibbe

Blackcat
April 27th, 2003, 03:37 PM
Hi bibbi

I trialed this for awhile a few months back, but found it dragged down my system too much. But I did not play about too much with it to optimise the settings.

Has an excellent reputation for virus detection, which is not surprising since it uses both the KAV and RAV engines.

Technodrome is the expert here and he will probably be along soon to give you his advice.

You might carry out a search here as this AV has been discussed in a number of recent threads.

Straight Shooter
April 27th, 2003, 05:24 PM
Boy,this one as suddenly become a popular AV!

I just bought it this week. Yes, it can drag system resources down (the monitor part) but it is pretty powerful. The scanners are great and nothin slips by. It has the best unpacking and archive ability on the market, I believe. Their is hardly any english support, and the sites are in German, so what Ido is I use www.viruslist.com(from Kaspersky) as a virus encyclopedia. The only difficulty I've had is that AVK slows down other on demand scans from Spybot and TH. I simply shut down AVK when doing those scans. There are too many advantages in this software. Also, if you are running an older system, it's probably better to consider RAV, KAV, or NOD32...They handle better on older machines...

Tinribs
April 27th, 2003, 05:54 PM
I've been meaning to ask Straight Shooter, have you looked at Steganos Antivirus recently? I havent used AVK but I recall seeing a screenshot of it and Steganos seems to have a similar interface, could you take a look at the supplied link and see if looks familiar to you?

Thanks
Kev :)

http://www.steganos.com/en/sav/index.htm

Straight Shooter
April 27th, 2003, 08:04 PM
-{ Quote: " quoting: Tinribs link=board=24;threadid=8796;start=0#57289 date=1051480472]
I've been meaning to ask Straight Shooter, have you looked at Steganos Antivirus recently? I havent used AVK but I recall seeing a screenshot of it and Steganos seems to have a similar interface, could you take a look at the supplied link and see if looks familiar to you?

Thanks
Kev :)
http://www.steganos.com/en/sav/index.htm
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Hey there...

Yup.. It looks EXACTLY The Same, but I don't have that "pill" in the upper left hand corner.... Otherwise, then I would assume it's the same thing.. That's really funny; McAfee sells Steganos AV too.. I saw Escan a long time ago, but I can't remember if it looks the same. I know EScan has only the KAV engine... and they also have that Orange Grinding wheel with the red dot going round and round, similar to AVK...
Hmmmm....

Technodrome
April 27th, 2003, 11:58 PM
-{ Quote: " quoting: bibbe link=board=24;threadid=8796;start=0#57245 date=1051466743]
Has anyone tried the new extendia antivirus avk pro and if so, what is your opinion of it.

bibbe
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Running it right now. An excellent av product that reassures anyone’s fear about PC security. It works flawlessly. I agree with Blackcat and SS that this product may be best suited for faster PC.


Technodrome

bibbe
April 28th, 2003, 11:20 AM
Thankyou all, for your answers, I donīt know if I get carried away by reading this forum. Before I started coming here I didnīt care about securety, but now I am running NOD and I use RAV as a on-damand scanner + I use BoClean and TDS, beside that I use RegRun, adaware and Spybot so I donīt know if I really ned extendia AVK, but you always want the best. I use a AMD on 1,5 giga and 256 RAM is that enough for AVK or KAV.

bibbe

Straight Shooter
April 28th, 2003, 11:45 AM
I think you are fine the way you are..
256 K may not be enough, maybe Technodrome knows better.
I run 1024 K ram now...
I honestly think you have enough good software, and don't need AVK

Jooske
April 28th, 2003, 12:00 PM
Applause Bibbe, that's looking like a good start for layered security. thought you had more tools for worms etc too?
Anyway, you have a fine combination and if in doubt there are always the online tests and scanners, you updated and patched your windows and IE, are careful so what more?
Routers, hardware firewall, the whole lot if you really would like to.

bibbe
April 28th, 2003, 12:13 PM
Hi Jooske, no I havenīt got anything for worms, I tried wormguard, but I didnīt like that it took my helpbotten away, not that I use it, but I donīt want a program to mess with my computer, maybe later when version 4 comes out.
I allready have tds and portexplorer so then I will have all Diamondc programs.

bibbe

root
April 28th, 2003, 12:28 PM
Hi bibbe. I think you have enough AV and trojan protection. I would not spend more money on that. As for worms, you might consider using an email program other that OE as most aren't plagued by worms.
I have Poco and other good ones might be the Bat, or one of the others that uses their own rendering engine.
In case you haven't heard of it, there is a small free sandbox program called System Safety Monitor that I highly recommend.
http://maxcomputing.narod.ru/ssme.html?lang=en
It will give you good control over what programs can be run and by what process. It's easy to use and a great extra layer of protection. A little more in depth protection that Regrun offers. I use both.
Sounds like your getting your security in place, but never forget the first line of defense is the use of the brain. ;D

bibbe
April 28th, 2003, 12:37 PM
Hi Root, yes it is true that I use OE, but I use Mailwasher Pro too, so I can se what it is I am receiving and I mainly use Opera when browsing the internet.

bibbe

Jooske
April 28th, 2003, 12:50 PM
Have seen your serious advancements Bibbe, that's why i mentioned it. WG4 soon to be betatested, so keep an eye on the forums. Beside that nise System Monitor i've seen entusiastic reactions about euhmmmmm did you get the free AutostartViewer already (also DCS) I love it, and am studying the things displayed in it. Nothing to install just unzip and run it. Hope it works fine for you!

Technodrome
April 28th, 2003, 01:18 PM
-{ Quote: " quoting: bibbe link=board=24;threadid=8796;start=0#57444 date=1051543211]I use a AMD on 1,5 giga and 256 RAM is that enough for AVK or KAV.

bibbe
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Yes, it is more then enough! ;) But I would not recommend KAV 4 xx. This version is a memory hog and slows down your system. Instead you could use KAV 3.5 (Swiss edition) if you want to go with KAV.

AVK is very low on memory consumption:


TD

Technodrome
April 28th, 2003, 01:27 PM
-{ Quote: " quoting: bibbe link=board=24;threadid=8796;start=0#57444 date=1051543211]
but now I am running NOD and I use RAV as a on-damand scanner + I use BoClean and TDS, beside that I use RegRun, adaware and Spybot so I donīt know if I really ned extendia AVK, " }-

NO! ;)


Technodrome

bibbe
April 28th, 2003, 01:42 PM
Techdrome, Root and Straightshooter thankyou all for telling me I donīt need more AVs, it pleases me to hear, because I have great respect for you all and I do like to spend my money on other things.

bibbe

Blackcat
April 28th, 2003, 04:54 PM
Technodrome

Can I ask about AVK, since you are running it?

Are the processes you state the only ones running associated with this program?

In addition, are you running the default setup, or have you optimised the settings?

My interest is because when my KAV licence is due for renewal, I will go with AVK or KAV5 depending on their effects on my system e.g. any slowdown.

Has it any e-mail scanner with it and how often are the updates?

Jooske
April 28th, 2003, 05:23 PM
You see Bibbe, your question and the answers are very educative for others too: for instance i didn't realize the swiss version of AVP differs from the KAV and they resources load, so this is really something to remember.

For the money thing: we all like to do nice things with our money. Generally spoken the atmosphere in this whole forum is to look for what you need and what is really helpful and what is overdone, and from the useful tools if possible free tools in the first place to use and try out and only go to next steps if they really suit your needs and wishes in your situation. This is how i think we all would act for ourselves and so to all asking info here too.
Because we all know security is a serious matter but can be fun too and doesn't need to cost us a complete fortune, we do like to be able to get new items and once we're happy we're probably on the edge of buying a new system and can start all over.
How about computer addicts? 8)

I did send you to the DCS free tools pages, didn't i? Aha! I think you have fine tools already and very fine advices here from the guys! Thanks for being educative for all! :D

Technodrome
April 28th, 2003, 11:08 PM
-{ Quote: " quoting: Blackcat link=board=24;threadid=8796;start=15#57500 date=1051563285]
Technodrome

Can I ask about AVK, since you are running it?" }-

Sure! ;)

-{ Quote: "Are the processes you state the only ones running associated with this program?" }-

Yup.

-{ Quote: "In addition, are you running the default setup, or have you optimised the settings?" }-

Using 2 engines with highest possible settings.

-{ Quote: "My interest is because when my KAV licence is due for renewal, I will go with AVK or KAV5 depending on their effects on my system e.g. any slowdown." }-

I recommend this av for a faster PC. I want to advise you that I was not able to uninstall AVK Pro. I had to use a restore point to uninstall it. This could be a problem or not.
-{ Quote: "Has it any e-mail scanner with it and how often are the updates?" }-

It has e-mail scanner that is compatible with many better known e-mail clients.

AVK Pro is update daily!


TD

bibbe
April 29th, 2003, 01:02 AM
Hi Jooske I am very glad for your answer too and I have downloaded "Autostartviewer" and it works nice.
I am not a computer pro and I am very insecure when it comes to securety, so it feels good when people who knows what they are talking about, tells you that you are OK.

bibbe

Krazykidjoe
April 29th, 2003, 09:51 PM
Technodrome, I've been using NOD32 for almost a year and decided to try Mcafee, since all the recent hype. Fortunately, it has been running great on my xp pro box. I also purchased AVK from CompUSA. I'm very disappointed to say that AVK crippled my system to a holt. It is worst than running KAV. Needless to say, I had to uninstall it and have sent a email to tech support regarding my displeasure with their product and requesting them to resolve me issue or refund my money. I still haven't heard back. I wish there was a trial version and I wouldn't have wasted my money. I you would like to trial my version, let me know? I am running xp pro, p4 2ghz, 512 mbram. Maybe I need to give it another shot. Could you give me some advice and tips. It scans very slow. Another problem was that It took forever to open a zipped or rar'd file. Thanks for any help you can provide. K

Straight Shooter
April 29th, 2003, 10:12 PM
Just to hop in for a minute...

I had the exact opposite experience between McAfee and Extendia...
Interesting, isn't it?

I have XP Pro, 1024 K Ram, Gateway 600X desktop Replacement LAptop, 2.4 ghz speed..
;)

whyme
April 29th, 2003, 11:23 PM
For what its worth:

Im running a 766 mhz celeron with 256mbmemory using WindowsME and have no problem with Extendia.

After I ran a complete virus check the very first time I unchecked the 'packed files' in the virus check but left it checked on the virus monitor and now when I have to do a complete scan it takes about 10 minutes.

I hope im not letting anything slip by this way. ???

LowWaterMark
April 30th, 2003, 01:17 AM
The question regarding how much of a slowdown you'll see with certain Anti-Virus products has always interested me. Very often I have seen people say that they've noticed a big slowdown when they are running the latest and most powerful systems, such as a 2GHz Pentium 4 with 512MB RAM etc. And also other people saying that they didn't notice much of a slowdown, yet they're on say a 700MHz system with 256MB RAM.

Something that I'd be interested in people commenting on...

Is it possible that the people with the fastest systems are just so used to absolutely instant responses that even a slight hesitation is noticeable to them, while the people on slower systems don't notice a small decrease in speed?

Tinribs
April 30th, 2003, 02:52 AM
It could well be LWM, I've hought about this before, its similar to when I used to be on dialup connection, as soon as I got cable I quickly became irritated with slow servers causing even a minute slow page load! I guess we get a bit spoiled with our speedy pc's. ;)

:)
Kev

Technodrome
April 30th, 2003, 10:36 AM
-{ Quote: " quoting: Krazykidjoe link=board=24;threadid=8796;start=15#57745 date=1051667505]
Could you give me some advice and tips. It scans very slow. Another problem was that It took forever to open a zipped or rar'd file. Thanks for any help you can provide. K
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Try using security tab. Scroll from highest to Medium setting. Run only one engine at time (on access). Uninstall any other ANTIVIRUS program.



Technodrome

krazykidjoe
May 1st, 2003, 08:09 PM
Technodrome, thanks. I deleted any possible leftovers from old av's and I have it reinstalled and running good atm. Why doe's it keep pinging my a:/drive. No matter what I do in explorer, it continues to ping my a:/drive. Can this be fixed? Thanks again for the help..k

Technodrome
May 1st, 2003, 10:39 PM
Try to uncheck "Check system areas when chaging media' ( monitor Options).



Technodrome

krazykidjoe
May 2nd, 2003, 08:38 AM
Technodrome, thanks for the support and reply. I just made the changes and it seems good..k

Anon
May 3rd, 2003, 08:50 PM
Hi

Could someone please give me a link to a trial version as I can't seem to find it.

krazykidjoe
May 3rd, 2003, 09:11 PM
Anon, I'm not sure that there is an English trial version. The program is about 31mbs. You can get it at CompUSA for $19.99..

Anon
May 3rd, 2003, 10:48 PM
Hi.

I'm in the UK. That's disappointing there is no English trial. I always try before I buy. :(

Technodrome
May 3rd, 2003, 11:12 PM
Wall-Mart sells AVK for $7.50. Just saw it today. ;)


Technodrome

krazykidjoe
May 4th, 2003, 07:48 AM
I want a refund. I paid too much..LOL..

Anon, I can't see why you couldn't try one of our versions. As long as we don't give you the key. Lets see if the mods approve. If the mods approve, I would be glad to help you out..

root
May 4th, 2003, 10:30 AM
AVK trial in English can be found here.
http://www.antiviruslab.com/e_download.php?lang=gb
At least I assume it is English. Hope I didn't miss this link earlier in the post.

bibbe
May 4th, 2003, 11:37 AM
Root I used your link and I got a German version, but I tried it and it worked allright on my computer, I didnīt feel the slowdown many talked about.

bibbe

Anon
May 4th, 2003, 12:32 PM
krazykidjoe, that would be really helpful of you. I would appreciate it.

That trial is also German for me. >:(

krazykidjoe
May 4th, 2003, 02:57 PM
I figured out the culprit on why it was slow on my computer. After disabling Zone Alarm, it ran great. I have now uninstalled ZA and am again trying Looknstop..

Anon, drop me an email at krazykidjoe@comcast.net. Do you have a place for it. We can work it out over email..Thanks k

the Tester
May 4th, 2003, 06:47 PM
I've been watching this thread with some curiosity.

Extendia runs two engines!
I understand the theory and possible benefits for doing that.

How would some of you Extendia users rank it in your experiencers with other av programs?
I'm just curious.

I hope that I don't sound too ignorant,but this program is unique with those particular engines!
I've never heard of it before reading this thread.

krazykidjoe
May 4th, 2003, 08:39 PM
the Tester, I like it. The only problem with the 2 engines is that it uses alot of resources, so I usually only use the kav engine now. It also doesn't seem to play well with ZoneAlarm on my computer..

whyme
May 5th, 2003, 01:58 PM
-{ Quote: " quoting: Technodrome link=board=24;threadid=8796;start=30#58411 date=1052017970]
Wall-Mart sells AVK for $7.50. Just saw it today. ;)


Technodrome
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I believe that version of extendia is not the pro version but the one that has just one engine(kav).

Still,a great price for a really good antivirus ;)

root
May 5th, 2003, 08:41 PM
Sorry about the bum steer. Since the site was in English, I assumed the download would be English.
If they want to sell their product, it would be in their best interest to start doing a little localising. Competition is tough. :)