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GPF
July 5th, 2005, 08:00 PM
I just updated Kaspersky Personal Pro to 5.0.372, the latest version.

As it usually does it whinged at me until I did a full system scan.

While I was in the mood for scanning I ran TDS3.

Oh my God! I was absolutely overrun with trojans DDoS.RAT.M—„ä’’’’’

There was one in most every file. Not just .exes and .dlls but .jpgs, .bmps, the works.

Well I didn't panic as they werent there the other day and there appeared to be no trojan activity at all.

I suspected they might have to do with KAV's use of ADS to tag files.

Ran several other scans and nothing showed up.

Today's update of TDS3's database has solved the problem.

That was quick! I'm impressed.

Just a warning for anyone else who might have seen this and panicked, it isn't real.

Just those little security guys getting bored with not enough to do and deciding to detect one another . . .
;D

Tassie_Devils
July 5th, 2005, 10:27 PM
Good to see GPF, and thanks for the heads up, as some may have indeed wondered what the heck was happening if running those particular apps.

btw, welcome to Wilders.

Cheers, TAS

Jooske
July 5th, 2005, 10:32 PM
Hello GPF and welcome to the forum!
-{ Quote: "Just those little security guys getting bored with not enough to do and deciding to detect one another . . ." }-
little? You're talking about two major companies here?
Largest databases ...
Did you have your KAV down when scanning with TDS as advised all time? Did you run TDS from your admin account or "run as" from a user account?

GPF
July 6th, 2005, 09:33 AM
-{ Quote: "btw, welcome to Wilders." }-

Cheers! Been here before as a lurker quite a lot and picked up on a lot of good info.

-{ Quote: "I'm feeling much better now that all the other people in my head and I are working as a team!!!" }-

Yes I get that a lot too.

-{ Quote: "little? You're talking about two major companies here?" }-

Just kidding! ;)

Apart from KAV and TDS3 I use Outpost Pro on top of a NAT router and Process Guard, also run with a Hosts file and much of Windows XP2 locked down (see I've been learning! ;) ) and scan regularly with AdAware and Spybot S&D and less regularly with other programs, they don't usually get a lot to do so I got this picture of a couple of bored security guards going down the block and annoying the security guards in another building . . .

-{ Quote: "Did you have your KAV down when scanning with TDS as advised all time? Did you run TDS from your admin account or "run as" from a user account?" }-

Oh yes good point. I ran TDS from admin but I didn't shut down Kaspersky while doing it. Nevertheless after the database update the signs of "infection" were gone despite failing to shutdown Kaspersky that time also.

Nothing showed up in anything but the disk file scans, no running processes or anything else suspicious, nothing going over the wire (Ethereal) I wasn't expecting so I'm pretty confident it was a false positive.

I usually do shutdown Kaspersky while running other stuffs, also when defragging, as there's a load from constantly poking its nose into all the files as other scanners are touching them.