Which one should I pick?

[rx-death]

Ok out of this list which one would you recommend? Dont say one that isnt on the list. KAV and NOD32 arnt on there because KAV bogs down my system and NOD32 doesnt work right :P.

Symantec Antivirus Corporate Edition 8.0
Dr.Web
Panda Antivirus Platinum
Pc Cillin 2k3
AVG System Professional
F-Secure
Pest Patrol Corporate Edition
Vet Antivirus
Sophos
Avast Pro
Mcafee Pro
F-Prot

[Vampirefo]

McAfee Pro

[kdcdq]

Hello rx-death,

OK, here's my $.02 worth:

1) I have never seen Dr. Web degrade the performance on ANY machine it was installed on. Dr. Web also has a small memory and RAM footprint, and I use it as my primary AV product.

2) I also use F-Prot as a secondary/backup AV product; it also has a small resource footprint. However, like Technodrome stated recently in another AV thread, "F-Prot has a poor unpacking engine but its a very strong AV"; I also agree with this statement completely.

KDCDQ, Security Freak

[Inuyasha]

Doesn't mcafee eat resources like Norton?

[Mr.Blaze]

well first off you need to tell us what kind of computer you have

what windows operating system

how much ram you have

and whats your procesor mhz

and most important how many icons on the corner right of your system tray by the clock is there

with out being online and everything shut dowen on the icons on the right by the clock find out what ram percentage you have

seems like alot of work but it isnt

just do this

turn on pc go to lower right corner right click on every thing click exit

go to pc icon or my computer right click and do propertys check select performance it should tell you if you have sytstm resources fee me it says 60%

get back to us

[JimIT]

-{ Quote: " quoting: rx-death link=board=24;threadid=8576;start=0#55503 date=1050714821]
Ok out of this list which one would you recommend? Dont say one that isnt on the list. KAV and NOD32 arnt on there because KAV bogs down my system and NOD32 doesnt work right :P.

Symantec Antivirus Corporate Edition 8.0
Dr.Web
Panda Antivirus Platinum
Pc Cillin 2k3
AVG System Professional
F-Secure
Pest Patrol Corporate Edition
Vet Antivirus
Sophos
Avast Pro
Mcafee Pro
F-Prot
" }-

If you're not worried about system strain: McAfee

If you want/need something lighter: PCC or F-Prot

[rx-death]

Ok im running a 1.3 ghz, 256 RAM,Win XP Home, and If I closed everything I would have 3 Icons I cant close. I just did ctrl+alt+del and checked preformance and even with firewall, Internet connection, propel, and my temporary AV Avast! it only goes between 0-10%.

[RaLX]

Which Top AV has lowest footprint (memory and cpu) and higher scan speed NOD32, DrWeb or other?

[Patrice]

Hi rx-death!

If I would be on the lookout for a new AV-software, the detection rate & the support would be the most important things for me. Sure, a low footprint (memory and cpu) is important as well, but to me, not as important as the above mentioned. How can you find out if the detection rate & the support is good?

There are some good AV-tests out there, which show clearly what AV-scanner is more on the edge than the others. How the support is, is a rather difficult task. For that you need to ask other users about their experiences.

Personally I was using F-Secure and NAV. The detection rate of both AV-software is good and the support is very fast & reliable. At the moment I'm using NAV 2003 because F-Secure had in my opinion a too large footprint... NAV 2003 starts three processes which are running in the background. I think that's o.k.

Don't forget to install a trojan-scanning software!

Best regards!

Patrice

[Technodrome]

-{ Quote: " quoting: RaLX link=board=24;threadid=8576;start=0#55540 date=1050733954]
Which Top AV has lowest footprint (memory and cpu) and higher scan speed NOD32, DrWeb or other?
" }-

No AV is faster then NOD32 but F-Prot 3.13(2,5 MB) or Command( 9MB) come close!


Technodrome

[Paul Wilders]

rx,

-{ Quote: "NOD32 doesnt work right ." }-

Could you elaborate on what trouble you did encounter? Please do so on the Eset/NOD32 forum ;).

regards.

paul

[stranger]

No doubt selecting a proper av is important in protecting a home system.

If you subscribe to such tests, any av that has a good track record in av.org, vb, icsa and westcoast labs should provide effective protection assuming that they're continuously kept up to date. When it comes to choosing an av, ideally performance is what should matter namely detection against ITW and zoo virii and trojans. But let's get real there are other factors that influences people to pick out this particular brand over another.

Av is just one part of security. Don't forget that. You can debate and analyze the tests out there til the cows come home in your quest to find "the perfect" av solution. There's no such thing.

If you want a high probability of keeping your data safe: disconnet from the internet. Anything in your system that connects and touches the web is a potential avenue for compromise. It's why keeping up to date with OS sps and fixes, utilizing strong passwords, limiting unnecessary services, hardening web browsers, changing default configurations ect improves your chances.

[meneer]

I would consider Etrust EZ (for home protection) if memory consumption is important. I've never substantally see it use any memory at all. Well, say 500 Kb. I can't believe it, but Taskinfo shows nothing more ??? Could the lack of a build-in schedular be the reason? I have Windows task manager download the signatures.

Besides, it's a cheapie :)

[Jonas]

Why not give the swiss version AVP a try, great detection and dosn't bog down a system much as KAV. I put this recommendation in another thread above with the link.

best wishes,

Jonas

[eyespy]

I like DrWeb. Small and light with too good heuristics.
I also like RAV.
I use to be a fan of F-Prot...but I'm not sure I like the direction of that software these days. It's still a respectable AV in any regard, however.

regards,
bill :)

[RAV]

I also run and recommend ETrust. It is low on resources and provides good protection. It does have resident protection, scheduled scans, autoupdates (optional), etc. The cost is low (about $25) and includes 1 yr of updates including program upgrades.

[hendricus]

A few weeks ago i installed Antivir, a small antivirus scanner. It's free from charge - which i like :) - and as far as i can see it works thoroughly and -i must add- a little bit slow.
Antivir has a nice forum, in German, for a change.

[Firefighter]

To rx-death and others from Firefighter!

My truth searching is now somewhat over for a while.

My choises are just now:

Resident scanner - BitDefender Pro 6.5.

First backup scanner - F-Secure Workstation 5.41.

Second backup scanner - RAV 8.6 104.

Firewall - Outpost Firewall Pro plus some plug-ins to that.

Spyware protection - Ad-aware Professional 6.0 v.162.

I don't say that it is the best available but a very good one. At least all my files are scanned all the time and backdoors and trojans have so small chance as possible!


"The truth is out there, but it hurts!"

Best Regards,
Firefighter!

[Patrice]

Hi Firefighter!

Three AV-scanners... :o That's quite a lot! Are you really thinking that helps? I think that you overload your system (especiall the mem). One good AV would be enough!

And no, trojans and backdoors don't have such a small chance as possible. You don't have an AT-scanner!!! :-\

I really, really suggest that you install one! For example TDS-3! Don't do it when it's too late...

Regards,

Patrice

[Firefighter]

To Patrice from Firefighter!

I have now only 3 av-scanners, before I had always at least 4. I have 512 MB RAM memory, and everything goes on!

About Trojans and backdoors you may know my opinion about so called "Anti- Trojans". Kaspersky engine and the latest av-test.org test shows what KAV is capable to do with those nasties.

After that both RAV and BitDefender are so good unpackers, that if some trojan will pass them, so GOD helps me!

Best Regards,
Fiorefighter!

[Patrice]

Hi firefighter!

Now I'm really interested! Could you please tell me (us) how many processes of these AV-scanners are started on Windows startup (running in background) and how big they are (size)? And I would also like to know how mem consuming these processes are in idle state (Ctrl-Alt-Del -Task Manager). That means just after the startup of Windows.

Would be great if you could provide us this information!! :-*

And thanks for the time you use for this! :-* :-*

Best regards!

Patrice

[Firefighter]

To Patrice from Firefighter!

I'm not sure which are those processes, but I picked some, which those "wisequys" can correct afterwards!

19 532 kb mgui.exe
5 660 kb fsm32.exe
4 146 kb fsav32.exe
2 388 kb alg.exe
2 308 kb nvsvc.exe
1 872 kb backweb-7681197.exe
1 220 kb fsak32.exe
1 212 kb fsma.exe
916 kb fameh32.exe
912 kb fsmb32.exe
300 kb fssm32.exe
180 kb fsk32st.exe
--------------------------
40 646 kb Total

By the way, I still trust BitDefender Pro 6.5, although it has not won any VB 100% Awards, because in those av-test.org tests it was quite good in those in the Wild tests and when it won last fall that European Union Hi-Tech Award, there is no lack of money in the future!

"The truth is out there, but it hurts!"

Best Regards,
Firefighter!

[Patrice]

Hi Firefighter!

I guess this is the mem these processes are using. Would you mind to be more specific like this:

F-Secure:

fsm32.exe (5'660 KB RAM)
fsav32.exe (4'146 KB RAM)
backwer-7681197.exe (1'872 KB RAM)
...

BitDefender:

...

And it would be great, if you could also tell us how big the size of these files are. Go to Windows Explorer and search for these files. Let us know, how big they are. This has nothing to do with RAM, but it shows, how much ressources are used by them on Windows startup.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR HELP! There was a discussion some time ago about these AV-scanners. That's why I'm asking you this favour! :-* :-* :-*

Best regards!

Patrice

[Patrice]

Hi again!

I forgot to say something... If you don't understand what I really want go to this thread and have a look at how I delivered the data for Norton Antivirus 2003.

http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=8587;start=0

Best regards!

Patrice

[Smokey]

-{ Quote: " quoting: Firefighter link=board=24;threadid=8576;start=15#56737 date=1051303379]
To Patrice from Firefighter!

I have now only 3 av-scanners, before I had always at least 4. I have 512 MB RAM memory, and everything goes on!

" }-

Hello Firefighter!

You know the expression: "less is more"? ;)

[Patrice]

Hey Smokey!

Personally I think like you, but to be honest, I always thought that there's no one as paranoid as I am... until I met Firefighter! LOL ;D

Regards,

Patrice

[Main]

Firefighter,

Bitdefender missed a kazaa trojan that was installed when I DL'ed Kazaa into my computer.

I like Bitdefender but I would'nt recommend that as my resident scanner, no offense.

I would prefer it in more of a backup role.

I used AVK with KAV and RAV engines running together, along with webroots spy sweeper and trojan remover 5.02.

That's all but I do intend on adding a backup scanner (GLAD)

[edsod]

I post this with good intentions !

It seems to me that some of you guys have your PC
just to run AntiVirus programs. ;D
If it is your hobby,nice !

I can't always stand them.
I run them because I have to...(I feel them as a burden)

As for bitdefender I installed v6.5 which I had on a CD
and I will keep it as an On Demand scanner.
I see that it is very thorough at scanning and I like it much
(perfect interface,ease of use!!!)
But its on access scanner (this murphy shield )
slows down things...

I use (again) as resident scanner (Don't shoot me!) AVG .
I know about its detecting abilities and how it scores at tests,it just worked three times I needed it in a year.
I have no strange browsing habits and don't use Kazaa
and the like.

I would have bought NOD32 if it went well with jv16 powertools which I love and use much.
Other than this, is OK from my point of you.
Norton,McAfee and Kaspersky are too much for me.
I will check again with a feature version of NOD32 or jv16 or I will just disable AMON when I use jv16.

Just some thoughts from someone with little experience.

:)

[Smokey]

-{ Quote: " quoting: Patrice link=board=24;threadid=8576;start=15#56884 date=1051344896]
Hey Smokey!

Personally I think like you, but to be honest, I always thought that there's no one as paranoid as I am... until I met Firefighter! LOL ;D

Regards,

Patrice
" }-

;D ;D ;D

[Patrice]

Hi edsod!
-{ Quote: " quoting: edsod link=board=24;threadid=8576;start=15#56920 date=1051358729]I would have bought NOD32 if it went well with jv16 powertools which I love and use much.
Other than this, is OK from my point of you.
Norton,McAfee and Kaspersky are too much for me.
I will check again with a feature version of NOD32 or jv16 or I will just disable AMON when I use jv16." }-

What sort of problems did you have with PowerTools and NOD32? Why don't you go to the appropriate forum and talk about this? I'm sure they can help you!

Best regards!

Patrice

[edsod]

Thanks Patrice,I was informed that it was a known
issue,which I confirmed doing a search at NOD32 forum
for jv16.
Found threads like this and some others
http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=6615;start=0
I didn't use the beta,just the usual 25 days trial...
Not a big problem but...

[Straight Shooter]

The AMON scanning issue became so overwhelming for me (with a conflict with TrojanHnter and JV16) that I uninstalled NOD32 (Beta 4) and installed it on another, older computer that has PestPatrol... As you can see, I don't really care about that older computer (LOL!)

On my newer computer, I tried Norton, which let viruses go undetected (Nothing new there, lol..), McAfee (Computer trashed my registry and was IMPOSSIBLE to uninstall), and Panda, which was okay, but I wanted better Archive and unpacking scanning, due to part to my "re-education" on antivirul technologies courtesy of Firefighter.., I write that as a sincere compliment, no kidding... I have settled on AVK Pro.. It runs well on my system, which both KAV and RAV engines on, the only thing I had to do was exclude the file for Trojan Hunter, and I have no conflicts at all. Besides, it doesn't take that long to scan my system with it at the highest settings, and it really digs deep down there. The only thing is they have limited resources for english language... I can live with it...WARNING.. AVK PRO IS BETTER USED WITH NEWER COMPUTERS. IT CAN BE RATHER INTENSE...

I run GAV as a backup scanner with the older computer, and it seems to do even better than Pest Patrol.. GAV is really nice. If it comes out of beta and gets tested on VB, and other places, than GAV would be a really GOOD, quality AV Trojan program...

[Norman The Doorman]

-{ Quote: " quoting: Straight Shooter link=board=24;threadid=8576;start=30#56959 date=1051371206]The AMON scanning issue became so overwhelming for me (with a conflict with TrojanHnter and JV16) that I uninstalled NOD32 (Beta 4) and installed it on another, older computer that has PestPatrol... As you can see, I don't really care about that older computer (LOL!)" }-

AMON lives happily with Tauscan and Trojan Remover. Maybe the problem lies with Trojan Hunter. I don't have JV16 so I can't comment about this one.

-{ Quote: "I run GAV as a backup scanner with the older computer, and it seems to do even better than Pest Patrol.. GAV is really nice. If it comes out of beta and gets tested on VB, and other places, than GAV would be a really GOOD, quality AV Trojan program..." }-

The size of Pest Patrol updates is way too big to make it a worthwhile program unless you have cable. It never found anything Trojan Remover missed anyway.

GAV isn't too bad but its author's constant hype of himself and bad-mouthing of other AV and AT programs has put me off using it even if it stays free for ever.

[Straight Shooter]

-{ Quote: " quoting: Norman The Doorman link=board=24;threadid=8576;start=30#57308 date=1051488924]

GAV isn't too bad but its author's constant hype of himself and bad-mouthing of other AV and AT programs has put me off using it even if it stays free for ever.
" }-

Yes, I have to admit, those little "scuffles" that TDS and GAV seem to keep getting into are becoming rather tasteless. I tried TDS - 3 on an older system I had and I had a couple of WIndows related products, although I have to admit TDS is a VERY powerful program. I may try it again when Version 4 comes out. I run GAV now and evn contributed to the GAV Site, and my initial reaction is that program can find stuff (it has for me!) buried deep inside that others can't, which I REALLY like. However, I don't understand what GAV's problem is. I would like to eventually see it out of beta, and I would like a better proposed email scanner than simply a pop3 scanner. The technology is out there. In fairness, both Michael and Wayne seem devoted to their products, and help is always just an email away.. I would also like to see GAV be eventually ICSA certified and in Virus Bulletin...
I am a paid subscriber, (I joined this week) so my support is there... , but I could not depend on GAV 100%, with the above shortcomings, so I just purchased AVK Pro...

Am I going to get shot for this posting?

[xor]

-{ Quote: " quoting: Straight Shooter link=board=24;threadid=8576;start=30#57338 date=1051501248]I would also like to see GAV be eventually ICSA certified and in Virus Bulletin...
" }-

Just let me finish my Win32 Virus Heuristic. I am just about this... behavior scanning is a little bit more develop-time expensiver than just some simple import table browsing ;D You have to take care of many things such as EPO (Entry Point Obscuring) and many other things.

Michael

[solarpowered candle]

hey straight shooter. the AVK ... do you have to buy that on disk ?

[bellgamin]

-{ Quote: " quoting: Norman The Doorman link=board=24;threadid=8576;start=30#57308 date=1051488924]

GAV isn't too bad but its author's constant hype of himself and bad-mouthing of other AV and AT programs has put me off using it even if it stays free for ever.
" }-
IMOH the guy's an alpha-male genius in his field. If I have the $$$, I will buy anything he produces. However, if ever I am elected President, I shan't appoint him as Secretary of State.

[Straight Shooter]

-{ Quote: " quoting: solarpowered candle link=board=24;threadid=8576;start=30#57384 date=1051516263]
hey straight shooter. the AVK ... do you have to buy that on disk ?
" }-

I could have bought it from http://www.compusa.com/products/product_info.asp?product%5Fcode=301775&csearch=&cmid=&pfp=srch1 for $20., but I wanted the tech support provided from www.boomerangsoftware.com They charge $39, but they have email tech support, plus some other goodies.

Without much of their stuff in english, I decided the extra $20 would not hurt...

In both places, they sell it as a CD...

I got it as a CD..

[Savage]

AVG is by far the best AV iv used and not bloated to hell like nortons and mcfee and catches stuff that they miss

[Tinribs]

Savage, can you name some of the items Norton and Mcafee missed that AVG picked up?

[InsaneJester]

<<savage btw
and no im sorry i cant i know that is was quite a few though but i dont remember names and this was norton2003
and also norton corprate
but none of then catch everything but AVG has done me right
and like i said its not bloated to hell like nortons and mcafee
wich can be very helpfull for ppl on older/slower systems

[Madsen DK]

-{ Quote: " quoting: Savage link=board=24;threadid=8576;start=30#57858 date=1051724259]
AVG is by far the best AV iv used and not bloated to hell like nortons and mcfee and catches stuff that they miss
" }-

And perhaps Norton & Mcafee catches stuff that AVG miss. ;)
Most likely the case.
Regards Ole

[InsaneJester]

well i have not found that to be the case i used to run norton
and avg and never did norton catch **** that avg missed but often norton missed things and as far as mcafee no one will ever convince me to use that sill program again lol

[root]

Guys/gals, please remember that dissing other programs without a specific ferinstance does no one any good. I have been guilty in the past of some negative publicity, but I am learning it is a better approach to talk about the good points of your chosen programs, perhaps noting that you have tried other products but like xxx better.
It is becoming painfully clear that many people today can have very strong feelings about their chosen security ware and product bashing can easilly lead to some emotional outbreaks.
I am only bringing this up because I think as members of a board that deals with security, we are all trying to accomplish the same thing. Different people are going to choose different paths, but all are trying to achieve the same objective which is safe surfing and email use.
So, please don't anyone take this as criticism. It's just some thoughts from an old fart who's learning his lessons slowly and painfully, but I'm still learning.
It is hard not to bash Window$ though. ;D

[Madsen DK]

Hi Root
Your absolutely right, but when someone actually claims that AVG is better than Nav and Mcafee, i really cant keep shut.
Ive never tried AVG, and i will probably never do, but i never seen a test where AVG outruns ANY of the major players on the market.
But AVG is better than using no AV at all.
Just my 2 cents.
Regards
Ole :)

[InsaneJester]

im just telling you what iv seen from experience
i dont care what the tests say im all im saying is iv seen avg catch more and not that it matter now that im runing a much
faster comp (tank god) but when i was on my old crapy compack norton was far to bloaded
asfar as windows well i wish i could get my damn unix box to network with me winbox lol
wich brings up a good question anyone know if there is a TDS3 for unix or linux
i ask cause im a unix noobie so not sure how meny trojans are out thier that would be able to infect a unix box
but anywho hey i would atleas try avg before knocking it the reg ver not free i have heard not so good thingss about the free avg

[Tinribs]

From what I know the difference between free avg and paid is minimal, I've seen a few custom scan options and thats about it, the detection rate and engine are exactly the same, correct me if I'm wrong.

[Jooske]

InsaneJester, there is no TDS-3 version for a *nix system.
Maybe some other programs will do the main tasks like scanning/protecting and the network tasks, in fact i'm sure they will be out there somewhere.

[meneer]

*nix is a totally different beast then win*

You'll need different tooling. What you refer to is intrusion detection (on your system)

You can find lots of tool here:
http://cs-www.ncsl.nist.gov/tools/tools.htm

The tools like tripwire can be found in the intrusion detection section.

But: please don't just run such a script, you better not treat nix like win. Such a forum is not like a howto to protect 'nix's...

Check www.cisecurity.net for more info.

Good luck!

[InsaneJester]

tinribs your probably right i dont have the free ver so not sure


and meneer thx for the tips :-) im not overly concerned
but it will be used as a srever so should probably try to learn how to keep it as secure as i can :-)
thnx again i will chek out those lnks :-)

[Wildman]

;D As some of you may know, I am a fan of AVPE. I have been using it for some time now, and it seems to do a good job for me. The main point is to use something that one can be confortable with. I had McAfee prior, and I will never use any products from them again. The program caused my system to crash. I also suggest that one know what is in their email, and to be very picky about what they will open and what they will not. Also use WEB sites that you can trust and are familiar with. The use of Ad aware software is a good idea also.

Thanks (Danke)

Wildman 8)

[wizard]

-{ Quote: " quoting: Wildman link=board=24;threadid=8576;start=45#58640 date=1052153066]The use of Ad aware software is a good idea also." }-

Yes but that does not protect you from getting infected with malware, but anyhow that's not what you are really intressted in. :D

wizard

[Wildman]

::) I think TINRIBS is correct. Again it is all a matter of what one is confortable with, and what works for them. I don't care if a company has all the horns, bells and whistles, if one does not trust tem, and their customer service is no good, then in my oppinion they are useless. If one wants to spend money for virus protection,then by all means do so. I think it is a waste of money, but then that is my oppinion.

Thanks (Danke)

Wildman 8)

[Wildman]

8)

It just doned upon me, that I should state, I am talking about home use. Individuals who use their computers for business etc, should purchase the best AV program they can find. I still however state that for thoes of us who use their coumputers only for pleasure, free AV programs and common sense will accomplish the task. I still use AVPE, and it still gets the job done. If you have noticed HBEDV seems to be on top of the latest virus threats.

Thanks (Danke)
Wildman
;D 8) ::) :P :-*

[SmackDown]

Out of that list, Mcafee Pro is the best hands down.

[Smokey]

-{ Quote: " quoting: Tinribs link=board=24;threadid=8576;start=30#57876 date=1051731447]
Savage, can you name some of the items Norton and Mcafee missed that AVG picked up?
" }-

I am interested too what makes AVG the better one, accuse without any hard proof is not the correct way.

[Firefighter]

To everyone from Firefighter!

If you want an AV, that is capable to find most of malwares in the net, the choice is F-secure 5.41.

But always it is very good to have an AV as your backup, that has very good in the Wild detection too, my choice is now DrWeb 4.29c, because it is very good unpacker too, almost as good as F-secure!

Never use an AV, that couldn't unpack!

If the money isn't no limitation, choose all possible products from DiamondsCS (TDS 3 and Wormguard for instance), after that, read only your favourite newspapers, that's all!

If you have kids, try to learn them to catch fish!!! ;D


"The truth is out there, but it hurts!"

Best Regards,
Firefighter!

[Smokey]

-{ Quote: " quoting: Firefighter link=board=24;threadid=8576;start=45#60836 date=1053120863]
Never use an AV, that couldn't unpack!

" }-

To Firefighter from Smokey! ;)

As long the virus is archived it can not hurt and is harmless.

An AV is OK, when it reacts on the special moment the archive is unpacked.

[SmackDown]

-{ Quote: " quoting: Firefighter link=board=24;threadid=8576;start=45#60836 date=1053120863]
To everyone from Firefighter!

If the money isn't no limitation, choose all possible products from DiamondsCS (TDS 3 and Wormguard for instance), after that, read only your favourite newspapers, that's all!

If you have kids, try to learn them to catch fish!!! ;D


"The truth is out there, but it hurts!"

Best Regards,
Firefighter!
" }-

This wont help, first and foremost you need a good AV, before you add AT's, and other add ons. DiamondsCS doesn't provide a AV, they provide an AT, port sniffer, and worm guard. Which none of them will help you with a virus, DiamondsCS products are for Trojan/Worm detection.

[Firefighter]

To Smokey from Firefighter!

We have seen plenty of writings about layered defence here in the Wilders Forum sites. There is still a better way to secure your PC.

If you AV-choice is very good unpacker and it's malware database is one of the largest in the market, and after that AV you add all the possible products of DiamondCS (at least WormGuard and TDS 3), I think you have chosen such an assembly, from which it is very difficult to make better!

Why that's so good solution? Because all the time you have two different resident systems running, if the other one misses some malware, the second is able to protect your system!

That's why an AV, what is able to scan packed files. We have hopefully read about those AV-killing nasties and how they sabotages your system? Why not a duplex protection system after this all? ::)


"The truth is out there, but it hurts!"

Best Regards,
Firefighter!

[SmackDown]

Firefighter,

OK, this last post by you, makes more sense then the one I replied to earlier, Get a good AV, then add DiamondCS, is correct way.

SmackDown

[Chuck57]

From the list, I pick PCCillin. I have PCCillin2000 and love it. PCCillin is fast, uses few resources, and works. I haven't had a virus yet, so can't comment on how effective it is, other than to view test results. I like it and recommend it. I've also got Spybot and Spywareblaster and feel pretty comfortable. ZA firewall rounds out my defenses, and I use it because I know nothing about firewalls and ZA seems good. I'm stealthed according to the several tests I've run at a couple of different sites.