View Full Version : Will we wait till the 5 th version of Dr.Web
Windfresh
May 19th, 2005, 07:49 AM
I wonder whether Dr.Web intends to launch its 5th version,at last.I remember Dr.Web having been a very popular and respectful AV a couple of years ago in Russian speaking countries,but now it seems to be fading facing other AVs.
I am sure that Dr.Web needs releasing a new version with a new interface BADLY,so as despite the fact that Dr.Web is a VERY GOOD PRODUCT,indeed,it should be perfected from the point of view of interface,which is hopelessly obsolete and intrusions of hackers.
I asked their support service whether they are developing some kind of a firewall to embed into their future version,but received a negative response.But firewall or elements of it have become MUST for modern AV products.All major AV manifacturers install firewalls in their comprehensive Internet Security tools. Ordinary home users want comprehensive defense.
Please,get me right.Not all people have time and desire to dedicate their spare time to "layer" protection and so on-they have to earn their living and good AV products are meant to aid them in it.And AV developres are to adapt themselves to ordinary,not computer savvy users and in no way on the contrary.
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Technodrome
May 19th, 2005, 08:58 AM
I do hope DrWeb will never become bloatware suite. I also hope they won’t make any bigger changes to the GUI and its structure. Some minor changes to engine are needed though.
Now, where did you get information about DrWeb32 facing failure? The most current version of DrWeb is very competitive, effective and stable. Thats all we need. DrWeb never was as popular as Symantec and probably will never be. But it does provide better prefomance then Norton AV.
{QUOTE-> I asked their support service whether they are developing some kind of a firewall to embed into their future version,but received a negative response. <-QUOTE}
Good to hear this. :)
{QUOTE-> Please,get me right.Not all people have time and desire to dedicate their spare time to "layer" protection and so on-they have to earn their living and good AV products are meant to aid them in it.And AV developres are to adapt themselves to ordinary,not computer savvy users and in no way on the contrary. <-QUOTE}
Fortunately, Symantec, McAfee, Trend to name a few will provide a good balance of security, performance and they do offer suites.
For the rest of us there are standalone products like DrWeb, NOD32, F-prot etc. ;)
tECHNODROME
Honyak
May 19th, 2005, 11:16 AM
If you are looking for "an all in one" AV, look here, http://www.stormbyte.com/.
it is not as lite as DrWeb but still very light with very good detection rates and heuristics.
Includes firewall, monitor and process manager. $29.00 usd.
Firecat
May 19th, 2005, 11:20 AM
{QUOTE-> If you are looking for "an all in one" AV, look here, http://www.stormbyte.com/.
it is not as lite as DrWeb but still very light with very good detection rates and heuristics.
Includes firewall, monitor and process manager. $29.00 usd. <-QUOTE}
If you do not live in the US, see http://www.arcabit.com :)
AndreyKa
May 19th, 2005, 01:43 PM
DrWeb 5.0? It mast be fully 64 bit, I think.
4.33 will be released in few weeks.
Adware/Spyware detection, chm archives checks and some more improvements. :)
Paranoid2000
May 19th, 2005, 02:10 PM
Adding a firewall to an anti-virus scanner can be problematic since it will conflict with any firewall already installed on a PC. Cases in point, BitDefender and Kaspersky Personal (which includes an IDS which has to be disabled if a firewall is installed) - in both cases network access can be lost unless either the AV is reconfigured or the (already installed) firewall removed.
iwod
May 19th, 2005, 02:15 PM
Dr Web 5.0? Is that like asking for F Prot 4 ?
I think Av Engine development takes a lot of time. So i would say it won't be out for another year or 2. ( Unless they are norton why rename their version 4 to version 5 with added bloat )
bellgamin
May 19th, 2005, 02:57 PM
DrWeb's GUI does the job quickly & cleanly. I am NOT a fan of skins, animated icons, & other eye candy. I wouldn't expect police officers or fire fighters to dress up in cute & stylish outfits. In fact, I would be distressed if they did so. Same goes for the programs that patrol my computer -- no bells & whistles please; just shut up & do your jobs.
I also devoutly hope that DrWeb won't become a *suite* -- I like to select the components of my security myself. Also, it seems that, in designing suites, strong AVs marry up with weak firewalls, and vice versa.
As for "ordinary home users" -- it is almost always a bad thing when items are designed for the lowest common denominator. In today's schools, teaching kids about computers already is considered just as important as teaching them arithmetic. The on-coming generation KNOWS computers, & doesn't need or want systems "designed by geniuses, for execution by idiots."
Benvan45
May 19th, 2005, 04:10 PM
{QUOTE-> DrWeb's GUI does the job quickly & cleanly. I am NOT a fan of skins, animated icons, & other eye candy. I wouldn't expect police officers or fire fighters to dress up in cute & stylish outfits. In fact, I would be distressed if they did so. Same goes for the programs that patrol my computer -- no bells & whistles please; just shut up & do your jobs.
I also devoutly hope that DrWeb won't become a *suite* -- I like to select the components of my security myself. Also, it seems that, in designing suites, strong AVs marry up with weak firewalls, and vice versa.
As for "ordinary home users" -- it is almost always a bad thing when items are designed for the lowest common denominator. In today's schools, teaching kids about computers already is considered just as important as teaching them arithmetic. The on-coming generation KNOWS computers, & doesn't need or want systems "designed by geniuses, for execution by idiots." <-QUOTE}
I couldn't have said it better........I fully agree, also with the others, who stated to leave out all frills like firewalls, spamfighters etc.
Dr. Web is and should remain a virus fighting program and nothing more. I also bought this product because of it's simplicity!!!!
;) Putin
fredra
May 19th, 2005, 04:13 PM
{QUOTE-> DrWeb 5.0? It mast be fully 64 bit, I think.
4.33 will be released in few weeks.
Adware/Spyware detection, chm archives checks and some more improvements. :) <-QUOTE}
Thanks for the information...looking forward to seeing it.
BTW..bellgamin....that was well stated.
Cheers :)
Firecat
May 19th, 2005, 05:54 PM
{QUOTE-> Dr. Web is and should remain a virus fighting program and nothing more. I also bought this product because of it's simplicity!!!! <-QUOTE}
Just a slight mistake I found in that statement - Please do not take this post to be offensive.
It (Dr.Web) should not just be a virus fighting program - it should be a program to detect all kinds of malware, dont you think? ;)
I mean - if it only detected viruses, then we'd have so many Trojans, Adware, Spyware, etc. on our PCs....:o:o:o:o
Not too many people have Anti-Trojan software ;)
Again, please do not take this post offensively.
Thanks,
FC ;D
pvsurfer
May 19th, 2005, 06:31 PM
{QUOTE-> Just a slight mistake I found in that statement - Please do not take this post to be offensive.
It (Dr.Web) should not just be a virus fighting program - it should be a program to detect all kinds of malware, dont you think? ;)
I mean - if it only detected viruses, then we'd have so many Trojans, Adware, Spyware, etc. on our PCs....:o:o:o:o
Not too many people have Anti-Trojan software ;)
Again, please do not take this post offensively.
Thanks,
FC ;D <-QUOTE}
While that's certainly an ideal situation, I very much doubt that any AV product is that capable, or is likely to be over the near future! That's why we have so many AntiSypware and AntiTrojan products to complement AVs. ;)
The Hammer
May 19th, 2005, 07:54 PM
{QUOTE-> DrWeb's GUI does the job quickly & cleanly. I am NOT a fan of skins, animated icons, & other eye candy. I wouldn't expect police officers or fire fighters to dress up in cute & stylish outfits. In fact, I would be distressed if they did so. Same goes for the programs that patrol my computer -- no bells & whistles please; just shut up & do your jobs.
I also devoutly hope that DrWeb won't become a *suite* -- I like to select the components of my security myself. Also, it seems that, in designing suites, strong AVs marry up with weak firewalls, and vice versa.
As for "ordinary home users" -- it is almost always a bad thing when items are designed for the lowest common denominator. In today's schools, teaching kids about computers already is considered just as important as teaching them arithmetic. The on-coming generation KNOWS computers, & doesn't need or want systems "designed by geniuses, for execution by idiots." <-QUOTE}
Most suites have a hole somewere in one of their modules that you could drive a bus through. Be it spyware detection, spam detection, leak tests etc.
However a system designed by geniuses for idiots would be good for a large segment of the CURRENT generation. As it is the idiots who are spreading malware all over the place with improperly protected systems. Many of the current generation do not really understand computers and are like kids playing in traffic. In order to protect OURSELVES. We need to help the current generation, many of which would not know a cookie from a virus and only want to send email. By the way those of us who are computer literate were not born with the knowlege we may now have. We were all babies or idiots in this area at one time. So lets raise the knowlege level of those around us and stop talking down to those who may be just starting out.
mercurie
May 19th, 2005, 09:29 PM
{QUOTE-> DrWeb's GUI does the job quickly & cleanly. I am NOT a fan of skins, animated icons, & other eye candy. I wouldn't expect police officers or fire fighters to dress up in cute & stylish outfits. In fact, I would be distressed if they did so. Same goes for the programs that patrol my computer -- no bells & whistles please; just shut up & do your jobs.
I also devoutly hope that DrWeb won't become a *suite* -- I like to select the components of my security myself. Also, it seems that, in designing suites, strong AVs marry up with weak firewalls, and vice versa.
As for "ordinary home users" -- it is almost always a bad thing when items are designed for the lowest common denominator. In today's schools, teaching kids about computers already is considered just as important as teaching them arithmetic. The on-coming generation KNOWS computers, & doesn't need or want systems "designed by geniuses, for execution by idiots." <-QUOTE}
Yep, hit that nail on the head and almost drove it throught the board and out the other side. Very good Bellgamin. Totally agree on all points ;)
SDS909
May 19th, 2005, 10:56 PM
For the love of god, please don't put a useless software firewall into Dr.Web.. I already uninstalled Arcavir because it has become a bit of bloatware.
Dr.Web is tiny, slick, zero system impact, and nothing I don't need gets installed with it.
EXACTLY the way I like it. Thank you.
Benvan45
May 20th, 2005, 05:42 AM
{QUOTE-> Just a slight mistake I found in that statement - Please do not take this post to be offensive.
It (Dr.Web) should not just be a virus fighting program - it should be a program to detect all kinds of malware, dont you think? ;)
I mean - if it only detected viruses, then we'd have so many Trojans, Adware, Spyware, etc. on our PCs....:o:o:o:o
Not too many people have Anti-Trojan software ;)
Again, please do not take this post offensively.
Thanks,
FC ;D <-QUOTE}
Dr. Web is working on malware detection and I'm sure it will be available pretty soon. And ofcourse it's great when AV programs start detecting malware, but only when it's detection is just as good as the virusscanning part. I'm not waiting for a good AV scanner with a half-ass malware scanner!
At the moment I use separate programs to fight the separate malwares.
Good luck,
;) Putin
RejZoR
May 20th, 2005, 05:58 AM
In these days its hard to say this thingie is a trojan and that one is a spyware.
Thats why many AVs detects adware/spyware too. Some spyware can be even more offensive than regular backdoor or trojan. Some are even a hybrid version of trojan,backdoor and spyware all-in-one. So it's kinda logical to detect all.
Dedicated anti-spyware tools scan regsitry too,while this isn't done by AVs.
Otherwise they do practically the same thing.
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