New Antivirus for my daughter

[Antarctica]

Hello,
Right now my daughter uses Norton Antivirus 2003 but she does not want to renew it. She is asking me to install a new one for her.

Myself I am using NOD32 but I think it may be a little to complicated for her. What would you suggest, something good, easy to run and to configure. I was thinking about Dr. Web but I am not sure if it is friendly user? Any other
suggestion?

Thanks for your help.

[Sputnik]

BitDefender and F-Secure are very easy to use as well, or consider avast! :)

[bigc73542]

Probably the easiest av to use and configure is Eztrust Antivirus 2005 the detection rates are respectable and it defines the meaning set and forget info here (http://store.ca.com/dr/sat1/ec_Main.Entry17c?SID=35715&SP=10023&PN=1&PID=671589&V1=671589&CID=179788&api1=78&api2=1&DSP=&CUR=840&PGRP=0&CACHE_ID=179788)

[tahoma]

firstly id worry about getting completely rid of norton, its near impossible to get rid of it so that it doesent conflict with he new antivirus u install.

drweb is fairly straightforward once its installed and configured in my opinion, so if u install it and go over the settings for her it shouldnt be a big problem

[Stephanos G.]

Why nod32? Her daddy could support her for any problem (also Daddy Cool):)

[Honyak]

I agree with BigC, just installed this on my kids comp.
Here is a link to a one year free trial or 2 year for $19.95 http://store.ca.com/dr/v2/ec_main.entry25?page=PYPCtrialPage_MSsite&client=ComputerAssociates&sid=55939&CID=190471
By the way it stopped the sober worm in a zipped email last night.

[tahoma]

EZ's detection rate is pretty poor though isnt it ? i dont think i would install it on a computer belonging to a person who perhaps wouldnt be able to notice that he/she was infected if the AV missed it.

another one to consider may be panda, which i think u can still get for free here http://www.pandasecurity.com/survey/
oh and kav5 is pretty easy to use too

[bigc73542]

ezav's detection is not poor actually it is as good or better than any mainstream av check here (http://www.virusbtn.com/vb100/archives/products.xml?vet.xml) and take a look at pandas here (http://www.virusbtn.com/vb100/archives/products.xml?panda.xml) . these test are noy definitive but they do give you an idea of what the av's can do. Take a look at this popular av and compare it to ezav here (http://www.virusbtn.com/vb100/archives/products.xml?drweb.xml)

[tahoma]

big, ez scores poorly over at virus.gr ,dont know how reliable those tests are though

[bigc73542]

I dont pay a lot of attention to that site.

[Happy Bytes]

{QUOTE-> big, ez scores poorly over at virus.gr ,dont know how reliable those tests are though <-QUOTE}

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[bigc73542]

here are a few results from checkmark

[bigc73542]

Don't get me wrong here, there are some really good av's available including ezav but he wanted an easy to use good av and I believe that ezav is probably the easiest that is still going to give decent protection. When his kids get a little older they may want an av with more user settings available and they can make that choice at that time. ;)

[tahoma]

http://www.virus.gr/english/fullxml/default.asp?id=69&mnu=69

1. Kaspersky Personal Pro version 5.0.20 - 99.28%
..
..
29. E-Trust version 7.0.5.3 - 52.35%

[bigc73542]

Like I stated earlier I don't trust their results and don't use their site. They disagree with the established av testing sites that have been around for a long time quite often and comparing any av's detection rate against Kavs is an act of futility anyway :-\

[dog]

Hi Tahoma, ;)

As you said above:{QUOTE-> big, ez scores poorly over at virus.gr ,dont know how reliable those tests are though <-QUOTE}Without get into a discussion regarding virus.gz and taken this thread OT ... Consider the source and stick with Main Stay Authorities. ;) If you do a forum search for AV Tests you'll find lots of opinions on virus.gz. ;)

Here is the thread I'm thinking of - http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=77033

Steve

[IBK]

AV-Comparatives gave to eTrust (InoculateIT engine) the "STANDARD" level, which is good.
http://www.av-comparatives.org/index.html?http://www.av-comparatives.org/seiten/test.html

[Sputnik]

{QUOTE-> AV-Comparatives gave to eTrust (InoculateIT engine) the "STANDARD" level, which is good.
http://www.av-comparatives.org/index.html?http://www.av-comparatives.org/seiten/test.html <-QUOTE}
But eTrust EZ Antivirus uses VET engine wich didn't pass your test :(

[richrf]

Hi,

I have come to believe that for "novices", the better the AV detection capabiities, the better it is for everyone all-around. Novices are far more likely to stray into unknown territory and get infected - and not even know it for quite some time. It happens to my friends and family all of the time which is why I usually ended up spending tons of time cleaning and then installing one of the top-rated products.

In your case, I would recommend either Kaspersky with extended database (sans ADS) or NOD32 with an AT like Ewido or BOClean.

Just let them run and if your daughter has a question, it gives you the opportunity of a life-time to show-off how much you know. Parents never get enough respect as far as I am concerned. ;)

Rich

[tahoma]

ok, im just trying to help out, maybe im wrong. but i personally wouldnt use EZ. the guy wanted an AV that was easy to use and also a good one. if easy to use was th enoly criteria then no AV would be the answer, nothing is easier to use and configure than nothing

[bigc73542]

{QUOTE-> But eTrust EZ Antivirus uses VET engine wich didn't pass your test :( <-QUOTE}

vet didn't fail at av-comparatives it just didn't meet some criteria they use. At VB the vet engine detects better than the inoculate engine.
here (http://www.virusbtn.com/vb100/archives/products.xml?vet.xml)

[IBK]

{QUOTE-> But eTrust EZ Antivirus uses VET engine wich didn't pass your test :( <-QUOTE}

You can select in the options whcih engine you want to use and for what (on-demand / on-access).

[bigc73542]

{QUOTE-> You can select in the options whcih engine you want to use and for what (on-demand / on-access). <-QUOTE}



The engine selection is only on the eTrust server promo 7. EZAV uses the Ca vet engine.

[waters]

The promo has duel scanner

[IBK]

Ah, ok :).
VET does not reach the 85%tell you that even if VET does not reach the 85%, it is for sure much much better than the 52% that virus.gr gave to it. The percentages on that site bring you to wrong conclusions I think; it makes soem AV looking much worser than they are.

[waters]

Bit defender is another option.
Install and foget.
Good protection,and its one of the lightest i have used.
I thought etrust was light,but bit is as good on my system.

[Mongol]

Lets not forget about F Prot... ;D

[Diver]

KAV 5 has outstanding detection and an interface that is really simple. Probably best to install it with the ADS turned off.

[Chuck57]

I've used EZ for a while now and have no complaints at all. Since I don't collect virii for testing, I've begun going to known sites where, according to friends, you're fairly sure to get attacked. Stupid, I know, but it's certainly real world.

EZ did its job. I ran Dr. Web Cureit after and a couple of online scans next day. They found nothing.

I think EZ if a fine (not great as in KAV) antivirus. I feel comfortable with it, along with Kerio 4.1.3 firewall, free WinPatrol (which I think is similar to Process Guard), Dr. Web Cureit for on demand backup, and SpyBot.

[waters]

The test july 2004 done by antivirus test center,universityof hanburg,etrust did very good.
Some people here say ,etrust bad ,norton bloated,nod light,kav heavy.
Dont believe all you read.

[rdsu]

Antarctica,

If are you that will install the AV, you can install NOD32 and config it to your daughter needs... After that I think that is very simple...

If you want a free AV, try "avast! Home Edition" or "AntiVir Personal Edition Classic".
The only problem of AntiVir is that doesn't have email clients scanner and incremental updates...

[Antarctica]

{QUOTE-> Antarctica,

If are you that will install the AV, you can install NOD32 and config it to your daughter needs... After that I think that is very simple... <-QUOTE}

Hi guys,

Gee, I didn't think I would get so many answers. :o :o

Thanks to all of you who took time to help me, it's appreciate, really. :)

VaMPiRiC_CRoW, yes I am the one who will install it, so may be I will give it a try with NOD32 and see what happend.

[Stephanos G.]

U can password protect the settings

[rdsu]

{QUOTE-> U can password protect the settings <-QUOTE}
;D

I don't think that this should be a good idea...

Why not, her try to see, to the few, how NOD32 can be configurated...?

[bigc73542]

{QUOTE-> (Antarctica) Gee, I didn't think I would get so many answers. :o :o Thanks to all of you who took time to help me, it's appreciate, really. :) <-QUOTE}




Well you did get a few responses, out of the ones recomended I hope that you will find one that you like and are comfortable with. They are all pretty good so the choice shouldn't be to painful ;)

bigc

[webyourbusiness]

{QUOTE-> Myself I am using NOD32 but I think it may be a little to complicated for her. What would you suggest, something good, easy to run and to configure. I was thinking about Dr. Web but I am not sure if it is friendly user? Any other suggestion? <-QUOTE}


Once NOD32 was setup (by you), surely it would be a "set it and forget it" type setup, until a major update is released...

Perhaps your daughter qualifies for a student discount?

[Antarctica]

{QUOTE->
Perhaps your daughter qualifies for a student discount? <-QUOTE}

Thanks webyourbusiness,

Yes, shes is a student, but I don't know if this is also valid in Canada. Or is it
only in the US?

[Firecat]

{QUOTE-> Thanks webyourbusiness,

Yes, shes is a student, but I don't know if this is also valid in Canada. Or is it
only in the US? <-QUOTE}
I live in Asia and got my student license from the link on my signature :)

NOD32-AV is a very reliable source of purchase - I guarantee :)

Any student qualifies for a student license, provided you produce some proof that your daughter is a student. This includes any of the following methods (an email will be sent on purchase asking for this proof):

1)Fax of Semester/Trimester/School term schedule
2)Fax of Student ID
3)EMail from student account
4)Any other info that can qualify your daughter as a student (progess reports, ID cards, links to school/college websites where students are listed, etc.)

If you are interested, post back :)

[SDS909]

Dr.Web would be a wise choice for your daughter..

I have Dr.Web on both of my sons computers.

[webyourbusiness]

Antarctica,

a student license in the US/Canada can be supplied either by Eset directly, or any US/Canadian reseller.


Firecat,

You live in Asia and bought from a US reseller? Eset is clear on US resellers supplying overseas markets, they are SERIOUSLY dead-set against it... it's a practice that can get your reseller status REVOKED. Because it's not worth risking the reseller status, we removed the relevant countries from our checkout!!

As a first port of call, you should always purchase from the NOD32 distributor, or a reseller in your home country - if that fails, a direct purchase is recommended.

regards

Greg

[Firecat]

{QUOTE-> Antarctica,

a student license in the US/Canada can be supplied either by Eset directly, or any US/Canadian reseller.


Firecat,

You live in Asia and bought from a US reseller? Eset is clear on US resellers supplying overseas markets, they are SERIOUSLY dead-set against it... it's a practice that can get your reseller status REVOKED. Because it's not worth risking the reseller status, we removed the relevant countries from our checkout!!

As a first port of call, you should always purchase from the NOD32 distributor, or a reseller in your home country - if that fails, a direct purchase is recommended.

regards

Greg <-QUOTE}
I purchased from an Eset authorised partner, not a reseller.

[rabmail]

{QUOTE-> I live in Asia <-QUOTE}
Where in Asia do you live?

(sorry to be OT)

Dick

[webyourbusiness]

{QUOTE-> I purchased from an Eset authorised partner, not a reseller. <-QUOTE}

same thing.

[Blackspear]

{QUOTE-> same thing. <-QUOTE}It is to do with Student Licenses not being available in the country of origin.

Cheers ;D

[Antarctica]

So thank you all. what I will do is wait for the new version of NOD32, which is suppose to be released anyday now. Her license with Norton is good for another week or so.

If the new version of NOD32 is still not released in one week, I will then go for
Dr.Web.

I will then install the demo and see if she likes it or not.

[mikel108]

I use EZAV and find it a decent AV. KAV and NOD are no doubt better, but weigh what you are using it for. If you are rich buy a whole arsenal. Me, I'm frugal. EZ even picked up a virus from a wallpaper saturday. The realtime scanner said "possible infection"...I am not a AV expert, but I did not know that EZ used hueristics.

EZ is EZ, I find KAV 5 easy too. AVG free, Panda Titanium, F-Secure and Bitdefender are all relatively easy for a kid too.

[mercurie]

{QUOTE-> So thank you all. what I will do is wait for the new version of NOD32, which is suppose to be released anyday now. Her license with Norton is good for another week or so.

If the new version of NOD32 is still not released in one week, I will then go for
Dr.Web.

I will then install the demo and see if she likes it or not. <-QUOTE}Certainly not a bad plan going with NOD32.

I would consider Command AV, once you load it for her and set it up it pretty much takes care of itself. I interface with my copy way more then is necessary. She may not like it I think only those who like boring but effective AV like Command. ;)

[Firecat]

{QUOTE-> So thank you all. what I will do is wait for the new version of NOD32, which is suppose to be released anyday now. Her license with Norton is good for another week or so.

If the new version of NOD32 is still not released in one week, I will then go for
Dr.Web.

I will then install the demo and see if she likes it or not. <-QUOTE}
NOD32 2.5 has released :)