Some final questions about Kaspersky...

[Sputnik]

I know there are already a lot of threats about Kaspersky, but I've some additional questions...
Right now I'm testing McAfee VirusScan Enterprise, but I feel like switching back to F-Secure. Now I got a licence for "System Mecanic Professional" from a OEM cd from a friends pc. Crap utilities, but also a one year license for Kaspersky Personal, and that's nice imho :D

I've got a couple questions about Kaspersky and the ADS too:

1) ADS are a part of the filesystem (NTFS) so files copied to a FAT32 partition or send over the internet don't contain the ADS data?
2) Can the use of ADS be turned off in this Personal version?
3) Where can you download the official Kaspersky ADS Remover? I searched for it, but couldn't find... Only the one from Sysinternals with RejZoR's GUI.
4) How are your experiences with the overall stability of this one? For example after 3 years F-Secure it never ever let my system crash or show BSOD's.
5) What are the advantages of Kaspersky above F-Secure (weird question, but maybe there are already users who tried them both :) )

Thanks in advance, please give your comments :)

[chaos16]

i think the advantages of kaspersky are that they get updates before f-secure.

and the advantages of f-secure are that they have the same scan engine (same detection) as kaspersky plus others. Including the f-secure scanengine

[Firecat]

OK Here are your answers for the little I know ;D

1)FAT32 partitions don't have ADS :)
2)Yes, if you do a custom install (KAV 5.0.227 Personal), you have the option to not install the iStreams (ADS) feature.
3)Dunno :-\ <but I do know that KAV 6.0 will clean up KAV 5's ADS>
4)Kaspersky was relatively light and stable during my trial period
5)Faster updates, and Extended bases (KAV does a bit better than F-Secure for Adware/Spyware/Riskware detection - but sometimes F-Secure pulls ahead, so they're pretty much equal there :))

[tahoma]

1-2 covered by others
3 http://www.kaspersky.com/faq?qid=156666512 , but the sysinternal one is better imo
4 very stable
5 f-secure is using way more resources, and is far slower than kav on my system, updates arent incremental (i think), kav seems to score better in tests than f-secure, which is strange considering f-secure's got 2 extra scanning engines. maybe it has to do with definition updates raeching f-secure users later

[richrf]

One alternative you might want to consider is getting KAV 4.5 (very stable) from ICE Systems and moving to 5.0 when the MP3 beta is complete and the latest version looks stable. Kaspersky has stated that 4.5 and 5.0 use the same databases and scan/detection engine.

http://forum.kaspersky.com/index.php?showforum=16

Rich

[tahoma]

or KIS2006 prototype..its been really good for me
http://forum.kaspersky.com/index.php?showtopic=115

[Sputnik]

-{ Quote: "One alternative you might want to consider is getting KAV 4.5 (very stable) from ICE Systems and moving to 5.0 when the MP3 beta is complete and the latest version looks stable. Kaspersky has stated that 4.5 and 5.0 use the same databases and scan/detection engine.

http://forum.kaspersky.com/index.php?showforum=16

Rich" }-
Do 5.0 registration keys work on this 4.5?

[SSK]

-{ Quote: "Do 5.0 registration keys work on this 4.5?" }-

Yep, it works! ;D

[richrf]

Hi,

ICE Systems says that will sell 4.5 Personal (even thought they told I had to purchase Pro when I purchasing). I would stay away from 5.0 Pro. You cannot suppress ADS during the install and they are extremely difficult to get rid of (if at all possible) once they are on.

If you try out 4.5 Personal, the main thing is to determine whether you want to use the extended database and then you have to go to their website or check back here on how to set the Update so that it retrieves extended databases.

Rich

[Sputnik]

-{ Quote: "Hi,

ICE Systems says that will sell 4.5 Personal (even thought they told I had to purchase Pro when I purchasing). I would stay away from 5.0 Pro. You cannot suppress ADS during the install and they are extremely difficult to get rid of (if at all possible) once they are on.

If you try out 4.5 Personal, the main thing is to determine whether you want to use the extended database and then you have to go to their website or check back here on how to set the Update so that it retrieves extended databases.

Rich" }-
Thanks all for help... One little thing: http://www.useice.com/_chtnarm.htm only mentions the Personal Pro 4.5? I need the normal Personal right?

EDiT:
Using the Personal 5.0 without iStreams under VMware now, working stable so far, system impact is slightly higher however then F-Secure, but I see what I can tweak with the settings :)

[SSK]

-{ Quote: "Thanks all for help... One little thing: http://www.useice.com/_chtnarm.htm only mentions the Personal Pro 4.5? I need the normal Personal right?

EDiT:
Using the Personal 5.0 without iStreams under VMware now, working stable so far, system impact is slightly higher however then F-Secure, but I see what I can tweak with the settings :)" }-

4.5 personal and pro work with the same key. Pro features are disabled when a personal key is used. :)

[solarpowered candle]

-{ Quote: "or KIS2006 prototype..its been really good for me
http://forum.kaspersky.com/index.php?showtopic=115" }-

Echo.

[Sputnik]

-{ Quote: "Echo." }-
??? An echo for what my friend ;)

[richrf]

Hi StyleWarz,

Pro is more expensive and I don't think you need it. I would suggest that you contact their sales support or you go to their forum and ask how you can get a copy of Personal 4.5. They have stated on their forum that they will make Personal available to customers who want it.

I have to admit the overall sales policy of KAV is pretty chaotic. Someone else mentioned that the Swiss site has Personal 4.5. But don't pay anymore than you have to. ICE made me pay for a Pro and then several months later they tell another user that Personal is available for the asking. Kind of rubbed me the wrong way.

Rich

[SSK]

-{ Quote: "Hi StyleWarz,

Pro is more expensive and I don't think you need it. I would suggest that you contact their sales support or you go to their forum and ask how you can get a copy of Personal 4.5. They have stated on their forum that they will make Personal available to customers who want it.

I have to admit the overall sales policy of KAV is pretty chaotic. Someone else mentioned that the Swiss site has Personal 4.5. But don't pay anymore than you have to. ICE made me pay for a Pro and then several months later they tell another user that Personal is available for the asking. Kind of rubbed me the wrong way.

Rich" }-

Please read:
-{ Quote: "4.5 personal and pro work with the same key. Pro features are disabled when a personal key is used." }-

To add: a custom install gives the opportunity to NOT install the pro components.

[clansman77]

hi style, some more ads tools for u.

http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=72051&highlight=tools

[Firecat]

As mentioned previously, A KAV Personal key can be used with KAV Personal Pro install file. If you do this, you will get only KAV Personal features.

Download KAV 4.5 Personal Pro from:

http://www.useice.com/kasp/kav4.5.0.104_personalproen.exe

Regards,
Firecat :)