Eztrust is better than kav or f-secure?

[greenze]

What is your views? ???

[root]

My view?
I don't think so. ;)

[Straight Shooter]

I don't think so too, and I don't use any of them.. ;D
I did try EZTrust.(trial). Very basic scanner, nothing spectacular.. No Mail scanner unless you pay for it.. which is stupid.. :o
Unless you want to use it only for backup purposes..

I trialed KAV, hard to use at first, but very well recieved..

[meneer]

Do you mean CA Etrust-EZ?
If so, indeed it is a basic scanner, but it reaches a consistent 100% score at virusbtn.
It is one of the cheapest scanners with such a performance :)

Besides: why would you want an e-mail scanner, if you drop OE? Whenever a virus is in an attachment, a good scanner finds it at I/O operations. That will do, I guess . . .

[solarpowered candle]

If I did not wish to have to spend much I would go for the Kav lite Greenze for $20 It will offer you excellent protection .

[RAV]

I have been evaluating CA ETrust EZ Antivirus and have been impressed. Its resident scanner doesn't slow down system, has frequent auto updates, scheduled scans, etc. and for only $20. It doesn't have an email scanner, however I don't really need that feature. KAV was really slowwwww on my P4 machine with WinXP. I have been running free AVG until I can find a suitable AV for my little home network and ETrust is looking pretty good. Anyone else try this AV and have any opinions before I register?

[wizard]

-{ Quote: " quoting: RAV link=board=24;threadid=7806;start=0#51498 date=1047129752]KAV was really slowwwww on my P4 machine with WinXP.
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That should normally not be the case. I use KAV 4 on my old Celeron433. No speed issues. If you just compare KAV with EZtrust or the other programs you mentioned you should keep in mind that KAV has a powerfull unpacking engine while the other programs have non (or limited unpacking capabilities). These engine is of course slightly slower than a scanner without unpacking engine but against backdoor trojans and nowerdays also worms it is an additional 'security gain'.

On av-test.org you will find some test who clearly shows where the strength and weaknesses are of Eztrust, KAV or F-Secure.

wizard

[RAV]

Seems like KAV has the best detection available including Trojans, but I already have Trojan Hunter to backup my AV.

I am a home user with 2 computers and really want something light weight but effective if ever needed. eTrust EZ AV seems to be just right and the price is right. Do you agree that eTrust it is better than AVG which is what I was running before trying EZ?

[xor]

Yes it is - you can eTrust me ;D

[wizard]

-{ Quote: " quoting: RAV link=board=24;threadid=7806;start=0#51503 date=1047133916]
Seems like KAV has the best detection available including Trojans, but I already have Trojan Hunter to backup my AV. " }-

Try NOD32. Fast, resource friendly and they have a nice support forum overhere as well. ;)

-{ Quote: " Do you agree that eTrust it is better than AVG which is what I was running before trying EZ?
" }-

Yes but if you want to spend some money why not choose something better? :)

wizard

[Luthorcrow]

-{ Quote: " quoting: RAV link=board=24;threadid=7806;start=0#51503 date=1047133916]...but I already have Trojan Hunter to backup my AV...want something light weight but effective..." }-

Which build of KAV4 did you run? Prior to 4.0.9 they had problems with resources (which caused me to trial some other programs) but it ha since been fixed. The monitor function and general operations are very fast now. The full system scan is still slow but I schedule that when I am asleep.

Also, as mentioned prior, KAV now has KAV Lite, I would at least consider that as an option and it is also only $19.95.
http://www.kaspersky.com/buyonline.html?chapter=610707

Also, if resources are your concern, you didn't mentioned NOD32, have you trialed it yet? The only concern with NOD32 is that it is focused purely on viruses so you would need to make sure you keep Trojan Hunter running. Nothing runs faster that I have tried.

[RAV]

I am keeping an eye on NOD32 as well. I tried it once before but the interface was awful IMO. I see that the Beta is addressing the interface issue, but there are reports of problems running NOD32 2 Beta with TrojanHunter (which I do own and keep updated). NOD32 also costs double the amount of EZ and there are no discounts for subscription renewals. BTW- I tried KAV 4 (not sure what build) but do not plan to try again. I have seen several other people complain about this issue and go back to an older version so it is not just me. What I really want is an AV that is light on resources as AVG with good detection rate and low cost.

[Blackcat]

To answer the original question- not in virus detection.

To answer Rav's question; AV programs which are low in cost, light on resources and good detection abilities, which I have personal experience of using;

1. Dr Web

2. F-Prot for Windows

I would also check out the recently released KAV Lite 4.5 which I believe has all the necesssary properties you require in a scanner.

Best advice we can give you is to trial some of the suggestions here and see which one you like. In addition, this will tell you which AV program is compatible with your system.

[RAV]

Thanks Blackcat. KAV Lite looks great but it doesn't seem to have a resident scanner, but it could be a good backup. I have been tempted to try F-Prot as well. Have you tried Command AV which also uses F-Prot engine? For now running EZ trial and seems to run well on my system.

[wizard]

-{ Quote: " quoting: RAV link=board=24;threadid=7806;start=0#51520 date=1047141223]I am keeping an eye on NOD32 as well. I tried it once before but the interface was awful IMO." }-

Don't think so. But anyhow this should not be the main reason to choose an antivirus software.

-{ Quote: "NOD32 also costs double the amount of EZ and there are no discounts for subscription renewals." }-

Eset offers discounts for renewals. BTW I am not sure about this but did you check if in the price of EZ all updates (program and signature) are included? Or if the price is just for the signatures and you have to pay again for new versions. Not sure about that.

-{ Quote: "I have seen several other people complain about this issue and go back to an older version so it is not just me." }-

There are several reason why KAV can be slow under WinXP. Not installed service pack 1 of WinXP, wrong configuration or just installed an old version of KAV 4.

-{ Quote: " What I really want is an AV that is light on resources as AVG with good detection rate and low cost.
" }-

Did I already mention NOD32? ;)

wizard

wizard

[wizard]

-{ Quote: " quoting: RAV link=board=24;threadid=7806;start=0#51529 date=1047145482] Have you tried Command AV which also uses F-Prot engine?" }-

Compared to FP-Win (F-Prot) it gets less often updated but I think Command AV is the better 'F-Prot'. At least it looks like if you compare FP-Win results with those from Command AV. :) And just remembered Command AV is also not that expensive. Maybe you want to give it a try. :)

wizard

[Luthorcrow]

-{ Quote: " quoting: RAV link=board=24;threadid=7806;start=0#51529 date=1047145482]KAV Lite looks great but it doesn't seem to have a resident scanner..." }-

Hi RAV, that was true of the prior versions of lite but it appears that the new one does. Check out this thread...

http://forums.useice.com/cgi-bin/ikonboard.cgi?s=3e6a5cdf2fd3ffff;act=ST;f=1;t=9;st=0

[solarpowered candle]

A little info from the new KAV LITE 4.5 manual


"Kaspersky Anti-Virus TM Lite is an easy-to-use anti-virus program for reliable protection of your computer from viruses.

After installation, the program will:

check your computer for viruses, scan incoming email messages, and detect viruses in e-mail-message storage areas on demand;

scan any object selected using the Windows shortcut menu;

keep your computer constantly protected from viruses;

update anti-virus databases using your Internet connection to successfully detect viruses and repair infected files;

report on the performance results.

The Kaspersky Anti-Virus Lite program has three levels of anti-virus protection:Normal, Medium and High. The higher the level, the higher the anti-virus protection of your computer upon on-demand checks and background monitoring.

It is simplicity and a very cool anti virus package yet uses the same anti virus data bases as the personal and pro versions .

[RAV]

Thanks for the info about KAV Lite. I didn't realize that they added the resident scanner and the new features. The program sounds about right so I downloaded the trial from kaspersky.com only to find out it will not work without a key. So I need to fill out an application for the key and get a message that a sales rep will contact me. Minutes later I get an email from another company ICE Systems with a key, but not for the lite program so it does not work. Without the key, the program does not function at all and locks up the computer. While this program looked like it had huge potential for home users, I am getting a very bad taste for this company.

I guess I will reload my ETrust EZ AV trial which BTW was much easier to download, register, and install. The CA engines (Etrust and VET) have a very good track record on Virus Bulletin and the program is rated excellent by users at CNET (I ignore the CNET reviews, but do look at user's opinions). The program is low cost ($20) and includes program updates for 1 yr and only $10 after that (price is reported to go up to slightly however).

Other low cost programs in this price range do not offer auto definition updates, scheduled scans, and good detection. Kaspersky needs to take serious lessons on how to sell software online to home users. I am a fairly advanced computer user and I find their process to be among the worst just to load a trial version.

[solarpowered candle]

Hi Rav, sounds like you were treading on a merrigo round there . I think the swiss and UK sites have trial versions of all KAV products (they give a trial key ) The russian site doesnt appear to do so and one would need to buy from them ( with a 30 day option for money back thru element 5 who handle the transations ) There is a tech version of lite out that Igor from KL gave us at http://forums.useice.com/cgi-bin/ikonboard.cgi
I am using that currently and the stats from my above post were on that one . There is a link however i cant remember if it has a key , I guess it would do so , as I transferred mine from my other Lite . Its a preview and a few minor fine tunings stlll need to be done but that is in the release notes , untill the final version is released. There is also the kav 3.5 at the swiss site which has a 30 day free trial http://www.avp.ch/ I do not have the link to the UK site but its very helpful and Lisa is great . By now of course you will be too towed off and I dont blame you . However thought i would dropp these links in . There is much about these various things both in earlier threads here at wilders and also at the ice ikonboard Good luck with your choices , :)

[RAV]

Solar Powered Candle- Thank you for the helpful info and links. It has been a hard night (my backup hard drive that I used from an old machine died this evening- click of death on a IBM Deskstar 40 GB. At least it wasn't my WD 80 GB C: Drive), plus my failure to get the KAV Lite key. I am still leaning towards Etrust right now, but before I purchase, I will try your links a possibly give it another try after I cool down a bit. Thanks again. This forum is very helpful. I guess I need to register rather than keep posting as a guest.

[solarpowered candle]

Hey Rav Go with the gentle flow I often feel like getting the sledge hammer out ! Thats when its good to switch off and be with nature for a few hours, or days..

If you do decide to try and have a go with any of the KAV products it may pay to run this utilty that Igor from Kav Labs posted here on another thread ,once you have uninstalled the KAV lite you downed , just to make sure its all cleaned up before another install (try copying and pasting this as if you click on it it seems to go to a another site page in russian ) http://webcenter.ru/~kurzin/Utility/ The ICE forum for kav is a good place to get some help also if you go that way . Peaceful journeys :)


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[meneer]

Choosing an AV scanner seems to be a religious discussion. My guess: there is no best scanner :'(
Choose any decent scanner that feels right for you and perhaps is affordable for you.

Etrust is fine. So is Nod and all the rest. I didn't like the Nod or DrWeb interface or the way Norman is presented, prefer Etrust. Nothing against the others though. Same for NAV , didn't like the updating en renewing thing.

Why is it that people always try to convince others to change tooling? ???

[RAV]

I got an email this morning from the US distributor ICE Systems and was told that there is no trial for KAV Lite. I also checked the swiss site and no trial that I can find. If it is this much trouble just to give the software a 30 day trial, I will pass. I have decided to register ETrust. Thanks for everyone's help.

[stranger]

CA's Etrust EZ Av has a solid track record when it comes to ITW detection. It has been certified by ICSA Labs, and, more over, the engine which it's based upon being CA's Etrust Av line for enterprise networks have been recognized by VB, Westcoast Labs and other tests.

For its price Etrust EZ Av is a solid product. It offers updates several times a week and its update and user interface are among the easiest to use. Its scan engine is also one of the fastest out there. The thing that's most noticeable about this av are its light footprint and minimal effects on systems resources. Personally i would take this av over Nod32 anyday, Regardless of Nod's track record with Virus Bulletin.. i've never been partial to it when i evaluated it.

Some would say that it doesn't offer a solid protection against trojans, but this could easily be supplement by a separate AT or by utilizing say KAV's on demand scan module.

[RAV]

I just registered 2 copies of ETrust EZ AV. It appears to be using CA's VET engine which passes Virus Bulletin tests. I also run Trojan Hunter 3.5 and ZAP 3.7. All seem to compliment each other well.

Obviously, AV software is a personal choice, but it doesn't hurt to get some feedback from experienced users on this forum. Thanks again.

[Technodrome]

-{ Quote: " quoting: RAV link=board=24;threadid=7806;start=15#52089 date=1047381001]
I just registered 2 copies of ETrust EZ AV. It appears to be using CA's VET engine which passes Virus Bulletin tests.
" }-

EZ Antivirus 6.1 is VET AntiVirus. The only differences are tray icon(design) and update url.

The version prior 6.1 (6.0) is somewhat different and had(has) much more features (including different UI). It also caused some problems on 9x systems.



Technodrome

[greenze]

Eztrust versions 7 is out .....anyone try it ?

[Felicity]

To answer the question - no, in my opinion.

Someone mentioned compatibility: from my experience these combinations work, I recently moved Trojan Hunter from the W98se pc to the XPhome pc.

W98se - Kerio, Finjan, (T.hunter), BOClean, NOD32.
XPhome - ZA, T.Hunter, BOClean, KAV pers.

I've got KAVlite on another W98pc, with BOClean and LnStop.

I thought from the KAV site blurb that KAV lite was originally intended and works best with W98.

If you got 2 pcs and you want a free AV, get AVAST. It can scan the networked pc as well. NOD scans networked pcs also. KAV lite does not.

Sorry if this adds more options to sift through, good luck.

[muf2]

RAV, Regarding the KAVlite trial. You can download a trial version from the Kaspersky site. Only restriction it has is it will not clean any viruses, but it will detect them. At least it will give you an idea of how the program runs on your pc.

http://www.kaspersky.com/download.html?id=39

muf

[spy1]

muf2 - Well, I tried d/l'ing and installing that one, and guess what? It needs a registration key.

(Sigh). Where do I go about getting that now? Pete

[muf2]

Ummm... Well you could try their support and ask them for a temporary key that will last a week. Or you could post this question at the Kaspersky forum. There are Kaspersky admins in there that will give you advice.
http://forums.useice.com/cgi-bin/ikonboard.cgi?s=3e820db30267ffff;act=SF;f=1

muf

[solarpowered candle]

I would go to the above forum spy1 . There are a couple of options that will be better perhaps . Either Lisa from UK or Igor would be faster than the other alternative. There s also A tech version of the new KAV Lite in the KAV lite threads that may have a temporary key, (not sure ) but its a good forum and fast track help in many issues.

[RAV]

muf2- I was able to download and the KAV Lite would not run at all without a key and no trial was available. I gave them a fair chance and was told they did not offer a trial key for lite. My experiences with Kaspersky have not been positive.

I registered EZ 6.1 and am I happy. No conflicts with TH, ZAP, etc. and works well with WinXP. So I will not be shopping again for AV software until next year.

[RAV]

BTW-

Etrust 7 (CA's corporate AV) may be out, but ETrust EZ (different product that uses the VET engine) is on version 6.1.4.

[notageek]

Hi everyone ;D

I will weigh in here. :) I have tried Etrust. But reading and looking at the trck record with KAV I would have to side with Etrust being better than KAV. KAV didn't even pass on WinXp over at the virusbtn site. Everyone lives by that site. ;) As for etrust, it passed over there at virusbtn on WinXP. Well, that's all I have to say for now about this. Have a nice day. :)

[muf2]

Change the record please. Don't use it if you don't want to. But just out of interest, look at these results before you condemn KAV.

http://www.virus.gr/english/fullxml/default.asp?id=31&mnu=31
http://www.rokop-security.de/main/article.php?sid=494&mode=thread&order=0

Some of those that got the coveted VB100% didn't do too well did they?

For an in-depth discussion on one of these tests have a look here: http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=6463

My point is don't take one point of view. Yes VB is well respected, but there are other test sites out there that can give you a different perpective...

muf

[notageek]

I don't like etrust either but my point it that virusbtn is well known and people always tell people to go there when they ask about AVs. When a person goes there and reads the reports it turns them off from the AV's that don't score good.

[solarpowered candle]

who are Virus bulletin :) lol If An Anti-virus program tested by VB can catch every real virus they throw at it, but if it also throws out a couple of false positives it doesn't gain a VB100%. But another AV can miss a virus or two and have no false positives yet still gets a VB100%. then I would be a little balanced with my recommendations of such a site. Its a commercial world out there. No matter what they say.

[notageek]

I never follow them kind of sites. I come here and ask. You
get a lot of responses and you can make up you mind with all the cheers and jeers of a product. ;D Or do the old try it before you buy it. That sad thing with trying before you buy is that you have clean the registry out after you unistall it if you don't like it.

[solarpowered candle]

True, I must say Notageek, that at least KAV have a good cleaner they give out to clean up ones system of any junk left over from a previous KAV download or loose bits flying around lol :)

[notageek]

NAV has a cleaner to clean off the left over but I'm not sure how good it works. lol