Outpost Pro 2.6.451.5123 released!

[QBgreen]

As of this morning, this version is now available for download. What's new/changed?

Agnitum’s Outpost Firewall 2.6 boasts powerful new improvements in security and performance. Version 2.6 even includes the new Outpost Firewall Browser Adjustment plug-in so you can control your Ads and Active Content plug-in directly from within Internet Explorer.

The following issues are fixed (only major are listed):

- Several shell crashes
- Agnitum Update issues
- Outpost did not accept the registration key after the update period had expired
- Issues with FTP clients under Windows XP SP2 with ICS enabled
- Several password protection issues
- Several issues concerning blocking/slowing down of network access
- Rules Wizard issues on incoming connections

Scope it out at: http://www.agnitum.com/products/outpost/

[tahoma]

did a clean install of this just now. didnt really see anything new at all, except the sidebar thingy in ie (using firefox though)

but it seems to work just fine

full changelog here: http://www.outpostfirewall.com/forum/showthread.php?t=13513

[Infinity]

I think I'll renew my licence now :)

[BaRaKa]

Is it ok to install over a previous version of Outpost or should I uninstall version 2.5 first?

[Fedorov999]

Not had a problem myself but I'd be interested to see all those people on the Outpost forums report if it fixes any BSOD problems - I see way too many BSOD postings on those forums and numerous occasions they uninstall Outpost, use a different firewall and their machine is stable again...

I really hope Agnitum can nail down more BSOD issues.

Fedorov.

[tahoma]

you can probably install ove 2.5 - i chose not to tho cos all my rules were becoming a mess and i wanted to stat all over

aboud bsods...ive run op for many years and not had a single bsod since outpost 1 was in beta stages

[PnP]

I try to new version but I see that loss too much performance on my PC... I use new NOD beta but the problem i don't think that antivirus..

Return to zonealarm.. :(

[BaRaKa]

During installation of new version it asks you to uninstall the old version first. :)

[Infinity]

just to add: I never received any bsod either...

[BaRaKa]

{QUOTE-> just to add: I never received any bsod either... <-QUOTE}

Same here. Hope it stays the same way with this new version. :)

[Mephisto]

Hopefully this will be a semi working version ... unlike all their previous releases that were beta's at best. I love the firewall but it isn't the most reliable. I have an event log full of Outpost exe crashes and problems.

[tahoma]

thats strange cos i havent had a single problem with it for like 3 years

[Infinity]

It's not that strange actually, and I truely believe that a program doesn't have to react the same on my pc then on yours...even if all the other programs are the same things can happen (bios error, io error, driver issue, corrupt download, whatever)

I heard from others about numerous bsods...it will be a "wait and see" for a lot of peeps on how this build will be...I'll always use Outpost Pro (mainly because of the plugins like blockpost)...I am trying looknstop now but honestly I like Outpost better, it feels better (and heavier too :)) and why change a winning team right?

sincerely

Inf.

[gottadoit]

I have been thinking of trying out Outpost for a good while now, maybe now is the time to do it

I'm well and truly sick of ZA 5.x, so I either go back to 4.5.x or use something else

[Oddbod]

Has anyone else noticed that in the network activity window, some items are now marked as n/a ?

[tahoma]

the n/a stuff used to be called 'system' before. i think its just dead connections, like if u close a browser while downloading a page the site will still try to send u data..i guess

[profhsg]

{QUOTE-> During installation of new version it asks you to uninstall the old version first. :) <-QUOTE}

Also, when rebooting it asks if you want to continue to use the old configuration files. If, unlike the person who originally asked the question about uninstalling the old version, you wish to keep your current configuration, including all those pesky application permissions, you simply select the use old configuration. Also, it is helpful to back up your config and configuration files ([drive]:/program files/agniutm/outpost firewall/config*.* and configuration*.*] somewhere in case you have to do a "clean" install of the program. That way if the config. files become corrupted you won't have to go through a slew of permission requests if you have to completely uninstall and reinstall the program.

[Peter2150]

{QUOTE-> I have been thinking of trying out Outpost for a good while now, maybe now is the time to do it

I'm well and truly sick of ZA 5.x, so I either go back to 4.5.x or use something else <-QUOTE}

Hi Gottadoit

I just installed Outpost on my new laptap and it works beautifully. I am switching my desktop to outpost, after my final Safe'n'Sec test with ZA. I am switching because when I switched to comcast, suddenly I had a port wide open, and couldn't really figure out why. I trialed Outpost on my desktop and it worked fine, and quickly helped identify the problem. Port now closed.

Pete

[hayc59]

Yes folks its one arse kickin firewall no one can compare
and its just keeps gettin better!!
For Your Info Just In Case
Please note that Outpost Firewall PRO 2.6 is not yet available through Agnitum Update. So those upgrading will need to download a complete copy from the Outpost PRO Download Page. (http://www.agnitum.com/download/outpostpro.html)

[Jazzie1]

Hi Peter2150!

{QUOTE-> final Safe'n'Sec test with ZA <-QUOTE}

I know this is a bit off-topic, but what test might you be reffering to?

CU
Jazzie

[tahoma]

anyone else noticing a terrible slowdown when running windows update with the new ie sidebar thing installed? with it installed it was runing at 11 kbps, once i disabled it win update ran at normal speeds (200kbps)

dont know if this affects other sites than win update, cos i use firefox for that

[Oddbod]

I dont think it says n/a with just dead connections, i get it with blocked ones & system bootps

n/a 10.132.64.1 BOOTPS Allow Outgoing DHCP 4304 Bytes 0 Bytes 98 bps IN 18:03:41 43 sec(s) 255.255.255.255 UDP BOOTPC ---

Before that was under system?

[INTOXSICKATED]

everything seems to be running fine here on my end. however, i don't use internet explorer.

[Oddbod]

I dont use most of the plugins, just the ad's & attack detection ones.

When i went to windowsupdate yesterday to update i first saw that panel thingy, suffice to say it was closed in a shot.

What agnitum really need to do is get someone from the company to monitor their support forum, if kerio bods monitor things at their forum i dont see why agnitum should ignore their own forum

PS i only use IE for updates, using IE nowadays is like before U go on holiday & give Ur house keys to Ur burgler neighbour & asking him to keep an eye on the house lol.

[Robyn]

I have been wondering about the o.t.t install or complete uninstall. I was one with the blue screen before they fixed the HT issues and now I am afraid to make a clean install just in case my now working version goes wrong with any left overs there may be if I uninstalled.

The actual uninstall detailed on OP's forum is very detailed and not just uninstall - clean the bits with a registry cleaner - it goes much deeper than that ???

I have just installed o.t.t. for the previous update but now have 2 OP details in my Agnitum folder so this would make 3. Hopefully that is OK as when I discovered I had 2 it was because of the over install when it was available last time via the auto update.

I have the new version downloaded but will make sure to backup my configs. first. I think I may just keep my old configs as they are/were working :-\

What is the IE bar thing meant to do?

[ellison64]

Its only a sidebar that gives easy access to ad/content blocking options etc.It can easily be shut and the sidebar icon (to activate it again) added to the IE toolbar.I had to click customise and put it on my toolbar though.
ellison

[ninja_style]

anybody recieving any BSOD errors with this new version? or someone who recieved them before with the other versions, and upgraded to the new one and is no longer having the problem?

i am just wondering if they have fixed the problem, cause i would like to install Outpost.

[Peter2150]

{QUOTE-> Hi Peter2150!



I know this is a bit off-topic, but what test might you be reffering to?

CU
Jazzie <-QUOTE}

I could never get S'n'S 1.1 to run. They identified and I confirmed the conflict was with ZA.

Pete

[TeknO]

Did you test to install new release of agnitum outpost to different drive ? ( like as D:, E: ) At the first boot, Outpost display an error message about wrong installation !!! It prefers to reinstall software, but it doesn't solve it. Outpost must be install to C: drive. It's my experience. is it a bug?

[Security Freak]

is Outpost a good firewall? please help me,i think to buy my personal software firewall and Outpost look good but i need more advice.

[INTOXSICKATED]

{QUOTE-> is Outpost a good firewall? please help me,i think to buy my personal software firewall and Outpost look good but i need more advice. <-QUOTE}
it's my favorite so far. they offer a free 30-day trial (http://www.agnitum.com), so why not give it a test and see how you like it?

[Security Freak]

{QUOTE-> it's my favorite so far. they offer a free 30-day trial (http://www.agnitum.com), so why not give it a test and see how you like it? <-QUOTE}
ok,in few days wait my riview

[Caratacus]

Judging by the recent posts at Outpost's forum there seems to be issues with 2.6, and the BSODs seem to be alive and well:

http://www.outpostfirewall.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=35

I'm sure everyone has a different experience and I can see that many people have no problems with Outpost at all. But a significant number, including me, report that they do. I own a lifetime license for Outpost but I'm not using it again until it's well clear of BSODs. That's a shame, because in the intervals between the numerous BSODs it seemed to work well.

In the meantime Kerio 4 and KAH are running with no problems on my boxes.

[hayc59]

{QUOTE-> Judging by the recent posts[you mean post] at Outpost's Forum <-QUOTE}
No BSOD here at all, and it could mean a lot of different variables
causing this for the poster you mention[not necessarily Outpost Firewall]
I could have sworn this thread was about Outpost firewall?? Not Kerio??
Outpost Pro 2.6.451.5123 released![Header Topic]

[Kerodo]

I've never had a BSOD with any version of Outpost from 2.1 on up. No problems here...

[zfactor]

i had many bsod's with 2.5 and so far 2.6 is stable as a rock no problems what so ever it actuall uses less ram on my system as well. dont know why but it does. so far i really like it very much. not to much different and the side bar thing i really dont use at all. but for me much more stable

[Kerodo]

Memory usage seems to be better in 2.6. I'm only seeing 18-20 megs here, which is an improvement over 2.5. So far, I'm impressed.

I did have to turn off the checking for malformed dns requests in the dns cache plug-in to get Treewalk working with Outpost, but other than that, all is well.

[Caratacus]

{QUOTE-> Judging by the recent posts[you mean post] at Outpost's Forum <-QUOTE}

No, hayc59, I meant posts.

I said:

{QUOTE-> Judging by the recent posts at Outpost's forum there seems to be issues with 2.6, and the BSODs seem to be alive and wel <-QUOTE}

On the topic of "there seems to be issues with 2.6" I was referring to these threads and the many comments within them:

" 2.6 totally hosed network - winsock errors"
http://www.outpostfirewall.com/forum/showthread.php?t=13574

"Outpost Firewall Pro v2.6.451.5123(402) Win/Xp Blue Screen Error"
http://www.outpostfirewall.com/forum/showthread.php?t=13540

"v2.6 (451/402) - problem with Counter Strike:Source"
http://www.outpostfirewall.com/forum/showthread.php?t=13573

"Web access"
http://www.outpostfirewall.com/forum/showthread.php?t=13551

"Problems since version 2.6 installed...."
http://www.outpostfirewall.com/forum/showthread.php?t=13544

"Can't run IE after installing Outpost 2.6"
http://www.outpostfirewall.com/forum/showthread.php?t=13560

"Problems with Outpost 2.6"
http://www.outpostfirewall.com/forum/showthread.php?t=13552

"2.6 interferes with multiplayer games"
http://www.outpostfirewall.com/forum/showthread.php?t=13531

They all report and discuss problems with 2.6.

The point about Kerio (and LnS and KAH) is that they do not BSOD or otherwise misbehave on my machines: that creates a context for saying that OP does.

[Kerodo]

Well, I spoke a little too early. Had some strange problems here last night and this morning after a reinstall of 2.6. So I had to remove it for now. Outpost started refusing some new apps without asking. No popup or anything. Happened a couple of times. I removed it and reinstalled, but still the same problems persisted. Also, I noticed a bug in the rule creation routines. So anyway, for now I'm on to something else until I can explore it further at another time.

[gottadoit]

Thanks for the summary guys, wilders is ever helpful as usual

I think I'll live with ZAP 5 for a little longer and endure its occasional hanging of programs when it "forgets" to display the prompt asking for access
After all its not that hard to exit ZA and start it again, better than a BSOD

[Security Freak]

I take my 30 days trial with Outpost 2.6,everithyng was good until now,when i click to shut down my PC an window was open an says DCOM or wathever,end now,and a little squares go run and when i pick end now the PC shut down as ever,this problem is here since i install Outpost,only this truble hapend 3 times ??? ( ithink uninstall my Outpost)

[mercurie]

Do most of you do a uninstall, reinstall the new release to avoid any problems. I guess you just reinsert your license code again to get it back off of trial onto the Lifetime upgrade again?

I ask this because this is my first new release, or maybe the second I think they had to make some corrections. But anyway...

Also has anyone been using this release with latest Avast at one time new Avast and OutPost did not play well together. It was fixed by the team at Avast by the way. I use AVG now (same question for AVG too) but may at some time want to go to Avast. :-\

[BlueZannetti]

{QUOTE-> Do most of you do a uninstall, reinstall the new release to avoid any problems. I guess you just reinsert your license code again to get it back off of trial onto the Lifetime upgrade again?

I ask this because this is my first new release, or maybe the second I think they had to make some corrections. But anyway...

Also has anyone been using this release with latest Avast at one time new Avast and OutPost did not play well together. It was fixed by the team at Avast by the way. I use AVG now (same question for AVG too) but may at some time want to go to Avast. :-\ <-QUOTE}mercurie,

I don't think it matters to much. If you try to perform an install over an existing installation, it goes into an uninstall cycle anyway. They are probably equivalent choices - the main difference is that you are not presented with the option to eliminate all files/directories (and therefore configuration files) since it is presumed you may want them.

For the record, I did my installation without separately uninstalling Outpost and it worked fine.

Blue

[Kerodo]

{QUOTE->
Also has anyone been using this release with latest Avast at one time new Avast and OutPost did not play well together. It was fixed by the team at Avast by the way. I use AVG now (same question for AVG too) but may at some time want to go to Avast. :-\ <-QUOTE}
Mercurie, when I tried Outpost 2.6 I was running the latest Avast beta and had no problems.. it was for only a few hours though..

[nameless]

{QUOTE-> Judging by the recent posts at Outpost's forum there seems to be issues with 2.6, and the BSODs seem to be alive and well:

http://www.outpostfirewall.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=35 <-QUOTE}You are correct. Agnitum is constantly addressing BSOD issues. Their release history page (http://www.agnitum.com/products/outpost/history.html) proves it.

So, there is absolutely no point in someone bragging about their own lack of experiencing BSODs with Outpost. You may as well brag about being tall... Nothing you did made it that way; it was just how it happened.

My favorite is when someone makes a post saying they have some problem, then 80 or 100 people follow up with smart-assed posts such as:{QUOTE-> No problems here! ;D :) :) ;) ::) :-* *puppy* <-QUOTE}

[Diver]

Well, its not like Outpost is the only firewall in the world that has problems on some systems. Its just that some guys have all the luck...

[rdsu]

{QUOTE-> Mercurie, when I tried Outpost 2.6 I was running the latest Avast beta and had no problems.. it was for only a few hours though.. <-QUOTE}
Same here...

[Paranoid2000]

{QUOTE-> On the topic of "there seems to be issues with 2.6" I was referring to these threads and the many comments within them:

<snip> <-QUOTE}Well out of 8 threads listed in that post, only one actually reported a BSOD. Two concerned problems with UDP traffic with games (which have been addressed with an updated build), one concerned a failed install which was fixed by following a full uninstall/reinstall, one seems to be a conflict with Kaspersky AV and one an Internet Explorer toolbar problem (probably).{QUOTE-> The point about Kerio (and LnS and KAH) is that they do not BSOD or otherwise misbehave on my machines: that creates a context for saying that OP does. <-QUOTE}Have you actually tested Outpost 2.6? If not, then you have no justification in saying whether it will crash on your machine or not. If other products work fine on your configuration, then good for you - it however provides no guarantee that this applies to everyone else and the examples you mention have had plenty of other issues during their history.

Outpost 2.6 is a minor upgrade from 2.5 so those happy with the previous version who don't use IE (and who therefore won't benefit from 2.6's most visible addition) need not bother upgrading in my view. However it does include fixes for previous problems (including BSODs) so those who had problems with 2.5 should consider giving 2.6 a test. I would also point out that compared to previous major releases, there appear to be fewer problems with this one, though the cautious may wish to wait for the next couple of updates to address those issues that have turned up.

[Diver]

I have to agree with P2K on something here. If you have not tested a product, don't bash it. When there are thousands of users, some will have bad luck. I have noticed posts from certain members where they had problems with more than one brand of software firewall. In those cases the problem/conflict could well lie somewhere other than the software firewall.

[Caratacus]

OK. I'll say it again:

Judging by the recent posts at Outpost's forum there seems to be issues with 2.6, and the BSODs seem to be alive and well:

1. There are issues with 2.6

If you read the OP forum then this is obviously true. There are issues with 2.6, as I said! Quite a few.

2. The BSODs seem to be alive and well

In threads concerning 2.6, these people report continuing BSODs:

ninj_style

zfactor

V@no

GPF

EskoJuhani

nik3k

steverio

robert1961

akozakov

Xophile

j8ee

cheliksel

There may be more - I got tired of scrolling & counting.

Hence my statement: The BSODs seem to be alive and well in 2.6. I may be wrong, but on the face of it there is some evidence supporting that statement.


{QUOTE-> Have you actually tested Outpost 2.6? If not, then you have no justification in saying whether it will crash on your machine or not. <-QUOTE}

I didn't say that 2.6 would crash on my machine. Please do not claim that I did. I said:

{QUOTE-> I'm sure everyone has a different experience and I can see that many people have no problems with Outpost at all. But a significant number, including me, report that they do. I own a lifetime license for Outpost but I'm not using it again until it's well clear of BSODs. That's a shame, because in the intervals between the numerous BSODs it seemed to work well. <-QUOTE}

"I'm not using [OP] again until it's well clear of BSODs." That is true. When the BSOD reports largely disappear, I will resume using Outpost. But I'm not putting it back on my machine and risking further data loss until I am well convinced by other peoples' reports that the problem is solved. I do not think there is anything unreasonable about that.

[hayc59]

Maybe you should just stick with Kerio 4.0
;)

[Edwin024]

I had the blue nastie screens in past versions of Outpost, but up until now none in the latest version...strange thing :)

[Caratacus]

{QUOTE-> Maybe you should just stick with Kerio 4.0 _____ <-QUOTE}

Maybe a lot of people should. However, I like Outpost and when the BSOD problem is finally and clearly fixed for most users, and the numerous BSOD reports cease, I will resume using it.

I seem to have inadvertently become embroiled in some sort of Firewall Wars ego-contest here. I have immense goodwill towards OP and do not wish to bag it.

[hayc59]

personal comments removed CrazyM

[Caratacus]

Which threads have I hijacked? I posted responses to the topic under discussion. Then I was obliged to correct misrepresentations of what I had said, including a misrepresentation by you (where you incorrectly altered my word "posts" to "post"). I have said nothing that was not factual.

You and Paranoid2000 (whose work I greatly admire and who is a real asset to this site) both posted responses to what I said that totally misrepresented me and seem based on inadequate readings. The kind of ad hominum posts that you have just posted are unhelpful to anyone. Please stick to facts and leave the emotion out.

To accuse me of spam is serious and derogatory. Prior to this post we have made four posts each on this thread. I invite the moderators and other members to iread back and see how this discussion has developed. I invite you hayc59 to address other members civilly.

[CrazyM]

Let's all stick to the topic and avoid personal confrontations.

Regards,

CrazyM

[JayTee]

Err, anyone having problems with Outpost 2.6 and Mcafee Virusscan 9 and Outlook2003? Outlook always hangs when I open it and it tries to access the net. In fact, Outpost asks whether I want to allow the spawned process MCVSESCN.EXE (or something like that) to start but I can't click on the pop-up to allow it to (I could do it with 2.5). And when I Force-Quit Outlook, Outpost closes too!

[Bubba]

Removed a few posts above that contained one last jab\shot between individual posters after it was asked by CM respectfully in post # 56 to stick to the topic and avoid personal confrontations.

[Jeremy2]

I had BSOD when protowall and outpost were both installed. I removed protowall, which is driver based, and no more BSOD.

[mercurie]

Fellow Creatures,
I did a total uninstall last night of the older version of Out Post and installed the latest version. I was new to this firewall and got it back in December so I wanted to undo any mistakes I did in the configurations as I went. Just in case. Now that I know the program a little better I can do it all up right. I used Automatic config. and will continue to work with it and tighten it up as I go.

Bottom line for me on my older Compaq Presario 256ram running a Celeron at 800mhz machine...never had a BSOD. Never had a hang or anything. But I have never on any firewall been able to get the block ADS to work with out blocking what was needed or screwing up the site pages. This feature just is not worth the hassel on any of them I've worked with.

As to the concerns expressed by Mods. they are correct you all have given some fine advice in the past... just follow my sig. be friendly and respectful and we will all be just fine. :)

[Paranoid2000]

{QUOTE-> Err, anyone having problems with Outpost 2.6 and Mcafee Virusscan 9 and Outlook2003? Outlook always hangs when I open it and it tries to access the net. In fact, Outpost asks whether I want to allow the spawned process MCVSESCN.EXE (or something like that) to start but I can't click on the pop-up to allow it to (I could do it with 2.5). And when I Force-Quit Outlook, Outpost closes too! <-QUOTE}There were issues between McAfee and Outpost 2.5 also - see the Mcvsescn.exe/outpost 2.5 (http://outpostfirewall.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12155), Mcafee Virusscan 8.0 email scanning (http://outpostfirewall.com/forum/showthread.php?t=11350) and McAfee Email Scan Hangs on component control (http://outpostfirewall.com/forum/showthread.php?t=11450) threads at the Outpost forum - hopefully one of those will offer an acceptable fix or workaround.

Since your issue seems to be with the Hidden Process settings, it may be worth testing while allowing all such activity (Options/Application/Hidden Proc/Allow Access) though I would caution against using this setting normally unless you have security software like Process Guard or System Safety Monitor since these can cover similar activity.

[JayTee]

Thanks Paranoid.

[gottadoit]

{QUOTE-> I had BSOD when protowall and outpost were both installed. I removed protowall, which is driver based, and no more BSOD. <-QUOTE}
Jeremy2,
Thanks for the tip on protowall, I was going to junk it anyhow if I used Outpost now I will make sure I do so before I try it out

I'm in P2K's cautious category, I'm giving OP another week or two to see if any other issues pop up before I start testing it out

[gottadoit]

Looks like I was one of the unlucky ones, took off ZAP and put Outpost on and have been getting frequent 0x8E BSOD's

Maybe I'll make some time to try and work through it, but for now it looks like I'll just go back to being annoyed with ZAP (with clean install this time which might resolve my issue)

[Paranoid2000]

{QUOTE-> Thanks for the tip on protowall, I was going to junk it anyhow if I used Outpost now I will make sure I do so before I try it out <-QUOTE}There is a plugin available for Outpost called Blockpost (http://www.outpostfirewall.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=59) which offers similar functionality to Protowall (blocking by IP address). Perhaps you may find it an acceptable alternative?

As for the BSOD issues, they could be due to remnants of ZoneAlarm remaining after its uninstall. See the Outpost forum FAQ Extended Zone Alarm Uninstall/Outpost Install Instructions (http://www.outpostfirewall.com/forum/showthread.php?t=7187) for details.

[gottadoit]

{QUOTE-> There is a plugin available for Outpost called Blockpost (http://www.outpostfirewall.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=59) which offers similar functionality to Protowall (blocking by IP address). Perhaps you may find it an acceptable alternative?

As for the BSOD issues, they could be due to remnants of ZoneAlarm remaining after its uninstall. See the Outpost forum FAQ Extended Zone Alarm Uninstall/Outpost Install Instructions (http://www.outpostfirewall.com/forum/showthread.php?t=7187) for details. <-QUOTE}

P2K,
Thanks for the link, I'll give it a whirl when I have a few hours spare; the blue screens were somewhat of a pain

I was thinking of having a look around the outpost forums to see if there are any "debug" or information gathering modes I could enable in order to help get the BSOD resolved. In my case it was easy to repeat the problem and the Stop was coming back with the same addresses every time.

I certainly didn't have a very good experience the first time I tried Outpost, but the GUI looked nice enough and I'm stubborn enough to try and get it working and help get the problem fixed (even if I don't end up using Outpost beyond the trial period)

I had already seen Blockpost (and wasn't using ProtoWall during this test) but thanks for the pointer...

After having a look through the OP forums the other week it was a little unfortunate seeing that some of the plugins don't seem to be actively maintained. Presumably you communicate to the OP support team during your testing, maybe you could suggest (if you haven't already) that they productize the extra functionality....

Thanks for the response and I will be trying it again...

[Kerodo]

If you can reliably duplicate a BSOD or other problem, I'm sure the Outpost folks would like to hear from you. I once had a problem and reported it and they had me download some kind of debugging stuff to help track it down. I believe it has since been fixed too. You might try reporting your problems to them and see what they say (if you haven't already)...