3rd choice paid AV please?

[tobamore]

Hello,
We are lucky enough to own 3 pcs and my pc has nod32 & ewido, 2nd pc has Kav & tds3 and 3rd pc will have ewido and another av. My question is, given that I want all 3 pcs to have different avs and I have already chosen the best two, what would be the next best av to buy?

I appreciate that many will think I'm mad, but please, bear with me?

mtia


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Toby.

[Firecat]

tobamore,

The next best in my opinion would be ArcaVir. It has a very good balance between signature and heuristic detection, with both of them being VERY good.

Its also light and feature-rich and cheap. And o yeah the support is awesome, ask the other members.

Regards,
Firecat

[bigc73542]

the other one in the top three would be mcafee ;)

[larouse]

Go with McAfee, BitDefender Pro 8, AVAST are greats Programs

[Randy_Bell]

-{ Quote: "the other one in the top three would be mcafee ;)" }-I mean no offense by this but it amuses me that you proclaim your "top three" but they surely don't match my "top three", hehe .. each to his own I guess .. take care my friend! ;D

[Firecat]

-{ Quote: "I mean no offense by this but it amuses me that you proclaim your "top three" but they surely don't match my "top three", hehe .. each to his own I guess .. take care my friend! ;D" }-
For Randy its Symantec/Norton...and that's also a very good AV, though I think its costly.

[FastGame]

Why don't you try a Free AV like Avast! :)

[Randy_Bell]

-{ Quote: "For Randy its .. {vendor name omitted to protect the quilty, hehe}." }-We can all agree that KAV is the King! Hehe .. but KAV is very pricey, if we are talking $$ investment. ;D ;D

[tobamore]

-{ Quote: "Why don't you try a Free AV like Avast! " }- :)

It's a fair question, but I believe theres no such thing as a free lunch and as far as avs go, I would assume that the paid for avs are generally better. After all, if they want our money, they should be more hungry...

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Toby

btw Randy, I prefer nod32, just don't want to put all our eggs in one basket...

:)

[Firecat]

-{ Quote: "We can all agree that KAV is the King! Hehe .. but KAV is very pricey, if we are talking $$ investment. ;D ;D" }-
In my country NAV cost more. But then, it differs for many people ;D

[SDS909]

Go with DrWeb or ArcaVir.

[FastGame]

-{ Quote: ":)

It's a fair question, but I believe theres no such thing as a free lunch and as far as avs go, I would assume that the paid for avs are generally better." }-
I don't think thats the case but I guess if your not willing to try then you'll never know for sure.

How about this...Avast home (free) as resident scanner and Bitdefender 7 (Free) or eScan (Free) as backup on demand scanner ? What paid for AV will beat that combo ?

[JerryM]

As I examine various tests, and especially the ones by Firefighter, I am not sure why NOD32 is considered the best AV.

For example, in this test http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=69091&highlight=firefighter
NOD appears to be pretty mediocre to me. I admit that I am not very knowledgeable here, but NOD was outclassed by several including Bit Defender free with Ewido.

Without flaming, can someone tell me why it does not show as well in some tests, yet is considered one of the two best? I realize that it did well in the VB tests, and that is not to be sneezed at. However in this test it was not considered equal to several others.
http://anti-virus-software-review.toptenreviews.com/
Another of Firefighter’s tests. Here NOD is only good as AT detection.
http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=70679&page=5


I sincerely am not trying to cause arguments, but I have to wonder how it gets to the best when it does not show up so well in some tests.

Someone please fill me in so when I need a new AV I will have an insight that I do not have now. FWIW I am using BD 8.0 and Ewido. I do not claim it is the best, and I am not so loyal that I will not change, but so far it seems that NOD 32 is not that good.

Jerry

[RejZoR]

BitDefender is a strong solution.

[se7engreen]

It seems to me that NOD32's claim to fame is mostly in its ability to detect new, unknown viruses (possessing among the strongest heuristics available). Also it's known for having a light footprint on your system and a fast scanning speed. It might not have the best detection rates available but it is a very well rounded package. Trojan detection is very much improving and it looks like spyware detection is on the horizon. All of this, plus the fact that it's highly configurable and compatible with other software, I think make it one of the best, not strictly detection rates.

-{ Quote: "I am using BD 8.0 and Ewido. I do not claim it is the best, and I am not so loyal that I will not change, but so far it seems that NOD 32 is not that good." }-

BD is a very good antivirus as well and, unless your license is up, I don't know why you would think about switching. I don't think you'd gain very much. Just my opinion; hope it helpes.

[JerryM]

Thanks for the replies, and for realizing that I am not wanting to start a flame war, but just want to understand.

se7engreen, that rationale makes sense to me.

Jerry

[hollywoodpc]

se7 .
You are pretty much on the money for the claim to fame . And Jerry . Keep in mind , NOD is NOT an AT . Many KAV people will tell you all you need is KAV . That is absolutely untrue . KAV is very good at trojan detection but , to be completely protected , you need an AT as well . I use NOD because , in my real world , it does very well . Answer to your question . Arcavir is fairly new here . Why not try it and see what you think ? If not , I guess my opinion would be either Dr. Web or F-Secure . F-Secure uses the KAV engine though . And two others . I like it actually . Just my thoughts . Good luck

[zfactor]

i am considering dr web and arcavir for my second backup scanner these seem to be very good alternatives. tried the f-secure thing today did not play nice with others. and i know you all told me but what a pain in the #@* to get rid of took forever to get it completely off of here. i used bitdefender and while i really liked the program had many issues with certain things that i just didnt like. not bashing anyone here at all. mostly updating issues. sometimes would say it updated and really didnt if you checked the # of sigs. and sometimes after updating just rebooted without asking me at all. and it seems to shut down while updating i could be wrong here though. just my 2 cents

[bigc73542]

-{ Quote: "I mean no offense by this but it amuses me that you proclaim your "top three" but they surely don't match my "top three", hehe .. each to his own I guess .. take care my friend! ;D" }-


everyone has their preferences. That is all we have seeing as there is no "best" antivirus just good, mediocre, and bad ones ;)

bigc

[polaris]

-{ Quote: "Hello,
We are lucky enough to own 3 pcs and my pc has nod32 & ewido, 2nd pc has Kav & tds3 and 3rd pc will have ewido and another av. My question is, given that I want all 3 pcs to have different avs and I have already chosen the best two, what would be the next best av to buy?

I appreciate that many will think I'm mad, but please, bear with me?

mtia


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Toby." }-

why don't you have "boclean" in the 3rd pc. I think it's good to have 3 different AV and AT.

[quexx88]

Definitely Dr. Web!

[Mr2cents]

My choice would be as follows:

First choice: Mcafee

Second choice: Panda

Third choice: Bitdefender standard

I can't comment on arcavir, as I've never used it. I would just trial all of them..and see which one you like best.

[Mr2cents]

-{ Quote: "I mean no offense by this but it amuses me that you proclaim your "top three" but they surely don't match my "top three", hehe .. each to his own I guess .. take care my friend! ;D" }-
Randy, Didn't you know that mentioning" NORTON" on here is a no no...LOL :D

[mercurie]

-{ Quote: "Randy, Didn't you know that mentioning" NORTON" on here is a no no...LOL :D" }-Like yelling fire on an airliner at takeoff....LOL ;D

[hollywoodpc]

lol !!

[bellgamin]

In a word, Dr Web. Oops... that was 2 words, wasn't it?

DrWeb + ADInf integrity checker = the dangerous duo. Beautifully interfaced! 8)

[Firecat]

Or...Brain AV+Common sense...a dangerous combo!

[tobamore]

As an update, I decided to buy another license for nod - guess this makes it 1st equal, not 3rd, for me at least. ;)

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Toby

[bellgamin]

-{ Quote: "As an update, I decided to buy another license for nod - guess this makes it 1st equal, not 3rd, for me at least." }-
Hmmm... a current NOD-user takes us through a whole "help-me-decide" rigamarole, only to come full circle & rate NOD "1st equal." A lovely stroll down the primrose path, wot?

[RejZoR]

NOD32 and BitDefender 8 Std work very well together. Something like dual engine AV. There is a very good chance that one or another will detect what other missed. No conflicts at all,also no slowdowns :)

[Sputnik]

A third choise AV... lol why in the world use 3 AV's anyway... well it should be like this for me...

1) F-Secure / KAV
2) McAfee
3) F-Prot / Symantec / avast!

[Firecat]

No it should be like this :P :):

1)F-Secure/KAV/GDATA or eXtendia AVK
2)McAfee
3)NOD32/Dr.Web/ArcaVir

The 1st choice represents powerful zoo and ITW malware detection.
The second choice represents powerful removal of ITW malwares and quite a bit of zoo malwares too.

the 3rd one is a representative of powerful heuristic detection.

Just my two cents :)

Best Regards,
Firecat

[tobamore]

-{ Quote: "The incredibly 'wise' Bellgamin spewed forth:
Hmmm... a current NOD-user takes us through a whole "help-me-decide" rigamarole, only to come full circle & rate NOD "1st equal." A lovely stroll down the primrose path, wot?" }-

I asked the question with genuine intentions and don't take kindly to someone that to all intent and effect has called me a liar! >:( Or at least suggesting that I have created a thread as a vehicle to exult nod, give me a break, my time at least, is a little more important than that!

I bought Dr Web for Gods' sake! It has been put to good use on another pc too, just not the pc it was bought for. I just gave an update to be polite - a point missed entirely by Bellgamin apparently. ::)

If you were interested enough in the thread to post, you may have noted that I at no time put down Dr Web, only stating a fact that it does not run well on that particular pc (at maximum settings remember?) Nod does run well on that pc - fact. I am not trying to sell nod to anyone else, it works for me - again fact. If my update offended you and your obvious concerns for Dr Web, I apologise. To everyone else that posted constructively, thank you for your help and advice.

Many thanks,

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Toby

[fredra]

Oh Toby..Toby..Toby !!!!!
Calm down...nobody is ostracizing you in any way....smile and get back that sense of humour you know you have.
It is a discussion, not an argument, and we ALL have different opinions (and different setup of PC's)...if we never agree to disagree, the world would be boring, to say the least.
Dr. Web may not work on your particular PC, just as some NOD users have problems on their individual PC's. BTW..I use both on different PC's.
My interpretaion of "bells" statement is to instill some light hearted humour, not to flame you in any way.
So have a martini, smile and relax.
I could send you the martini, but I ran out of clean glasses...lol ;)
Cheers :)

[bellgamin]

-{ Quote: "I asked the question with genuine intentions" }-Okay.

-{ Quote: "If you were interested enough in the thread to post, you may have noted that I at no time put down Dr Web" }-I never said that you did. I like DrWeb, but I am by no means obsessive about it. In fact, I recently recommended NOD over DRW at post #14 on THIS (http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=71639&page=1) thread.

-{ Quote: "...your obvious concerns for Dr Web" }-Your remark is just exactly the type of comment that I did NOT choose to make.

[tobamore]

-{ Quote: "Fredra kindly offered:

I could send you the martini, but I ran out of clean glasses...lol " }-

No problem at all, my agitation was caused by Bellgamins comments only, enough to prompt me to make my points in return. We are all grown ups here and Wilders is usually very helpful and friendly, but I guess we all have off days. ;)

By the way, I don't like martini, any wine please? Or perhaps a 'virtual' beer? ;D

Cheers,
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Toby

[hollywoodpc]

I have to chime in . I find it rude to call one down when he was only responding to a condescending remark . I thought Bell's comment was uncalled for as well . And the question is which BESIDES NOD and KAV .
All that said , Fredra , go ahead and tell me to chill out too . I like what you have added in these forums but , your comment was best left unsaid . I only jump on this because wrong is wrong . Bell bothered him . He said so . Over . Done . History . And Tobamore . I hope you got some good things out of this thread . Good Luck to you

[bigc73542]

Gentlemen this thread is on the verge of going bad with all of the negative comments towards each other. Please keep it on topic or it will be closed.

bigc