View Full Version : ArcaVir 2005 - REVIEW
Sputnik
March 15th, 2005, 02:35 PM
First I want to thank Stormbyte for giving me the possibility testing this product!!!
Installation:
The installation was nice and easy, no real comment on this... The only special thing I've noticed was that the installation program was skinned like the programs interface.
Recource usage:
arcascan.exe -> 12.876K
ABmenu.exe -> 2.412K
ABRegMon.exe -> 652K
System remains fast, a slight slowdown like found on NOD32, the starup (on bootup) time could be improved.
First sight:
At first sight the interface is beatiful, and very colorfull with nice icons. But I really needed to search the program to find the options I needed to find. All the components have a abart screen and I really miss a central control panel...
A closer look:
Finally I understood the interface, when you know it it's usable, but it could be easier. I would also prefer a way to turn off the skins, to get a more standard windows look.
Scanning my Harddisk:
Let's try to scan my harddisk, now I found my way in the interface it cost just a second to preform the action.
I was curious about it's scanning speed... The scan speed was ok on my system, around the same speed as F-Prot. But where there are archives or big cabs (like in the windows folder) this program needs it's time...
Afterall i found the scanning time reasonable and liked the log it generated at the end.
A look at the Firewall:
I never like intergrated firewalls, but I gave it a shot... One thing dissapointed me imidatly, no program control.
In my eyes a firewall is useless then. Also I found the rules wich can be setup for the incoming traffic quite complicated. Sure I believe when people say it does protect you against attacks, but I want to give premission to programs entering the internet/network...
The Regmon:
This is one of my favorite components, it keeps track of your registery changes and asks premission for them... It's very clear to understand, and I really liked it...
Help and support:
The helpfile is in pdf format, nice but I prefer a basic .chm file more. You can fill in a form on the ArcaVir website for support and on Stormbyte's website there's a forum...
Detection:
I heard good things about the detection, but didn't saw any tests of it yet... The only test I saw was for the vb100 in Febuary and it failed. But maybe it has to do with any false positive it gave... Because this antivirus is quite new and there're no tests for hand I won't trust it at productive systems yet... That doesn't mean it's bad, just I want independed clarification that it's good.
Recommends to the developers:
1) Work on your GUI, you made a nice start, try to simplely it, and make a central control panel for all components, and pls remove the splashscreens.
2) The Right-Click scanner launches the main on-demand scanner screen along with the scanner screen, this is not needed.
3) Enhance the firewall, simplefy the rules and make outbound program control.
Concusion:
This is one of the best new AV's i've seen in years, it has great potential... But it needs some more time to grow up...
I hope stormbyte will let me test this product every 3 or 6 months so I keep everybody updated from the changes made... The price of this product is just great, and when it's grown up this is a killer app...
Buy it?
No not yet, I want to see test results first. But feel free to try it yourself, and if you like it, sure buy it...
(Expect updates to this review during the weeks since I keep on playing with it.)
Blackcat
March 15th, 2005, 04:29 PM
StyleWarz
Thanks for taking the time on this post and adding your views about this AV. Together with other recent threads, a substantial background to this AV is being built up.
Are your resource usage figures, Virtual memory readings? I tested this AV a week or so back and I am sure I saw much higher readings on my system, but there was still little effect on performance.
As for malware testing, the only one I have seen so far is that carried out by FireFighter where detection rates seem very good, particularly against trojans. http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=69731&page=2&pp=25&highlight=arcavir
Sputnik
March 15th, 2005, 04:34 PM
-{ Quote: "Are your resource usage figures, Virtual memory readings? I tested this AV a week or so back and I am sure I saw much higher readings on my system, but there was still little effect on performance." }-
No the recource usage are RAM readings... But I had the mail-scanner disabled by mistake, so I update the numbers later on :)
Honyak
March 15th, 2005, 05:35 PM
According to Mariusz at stormbyte only about 10mb of memory is actually used the rest is in pagefile. There is a post in one of the threads where Mariusz states the actual ram usage.
EDIT:
See this thread, http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=69731 Post #7
Firecat
March 16th, 2005, 03:39 AM
Hmm....StyleWarz, the suggestions I gave were quite a bit different from yours....much more complex (no you cant see it, I PMed stormbyte about that).
BTW, ArcaVir also has a few more processes. Read MY review at honyak's link for that. If you want more info you can click Start--->Run--->services.msc and see which services are related to ArcaVir.
I'll be giving out test results too...as I keep playing. This interface is still better than my previous eScan...
Nice review though :)
Regards,
Firecat
stormbyte
March 16th, 2005, 08:44 AM
-{ Quote: "
Detection:
Because this antivirus is quite new and there're no tests for hand I won't trust it at productive systems yet.
" }-
mks_vir (orignal ArcaVir :) ) has been around for quite some time. First time it was released in 1988. Since then this product received many awards.
http://mks.com.pl/nagrody.html
http://mks.com.pl/prasa.html
Mariusz
Sputnik
March 16th, 2005, 08:51 AM
-{ Quote: "mks_vir (orignal ArcaVir :) ) has been around for quite some time. First time it was released in 1988. Since then this product received many awards." }-
I know they're around some longer already in Poland... But they're new in the "outside" world.
Mr2cents
March 16th, 2005, 10:57 PM
I wanted to trial ArcaVir. I downloaded the installer about a month ago. Anyhow, I just got around to installing the program last night. The serial key was invalid. I think the trial is for 14 days. The only thing I can figure out is the 14 day countdown started when I downloaded the program installer ??? Even though I didn't install the antivirus until last night.
hollywoodpc
March 16th, 2005, 11:10 PM
Hi Mr . . Contact Stormbyte . He will take care of you
Firecat
March 17th, 2005, 03:25 AM
-{ Quote: "I wanted to trial ArcaVir. I downloaded the installer about a month ago. Anyhow, I just got around to installing the program last night. The serial key was invalid. I think the trial is for 14 days. The only thing I can figure out is the 14 day countdown started when I downloaded the program installer ??? Even though I didn't install the antivirus until last night." }-
Yes...the serial key's time period starts the very day it is issued.
DARMin
March 18th, 2005, 04:51 AM
From my observations @ Jotti, MKS is the #1 performing antiviral engine in the world. It seems to be the most capable and BY FAR the fastest. However, in application I have heard a number of complaints regarding its speed... and I get the impression that this engine has not been implemented to its potential.
Sputnik
March 18th, 2005, 05:18 AM
-{ Quote: "From my observations @ Jotti, MKS is the #1 performing antiviral engine in the world. It seems to be the most capable and BY FAR the fastest. However, in application I have heard a number of complaints regarding its speed... and I get the impression that this engine has not been implemented to its potential." }-
That's what I thought too, the product has lots of potential on the whole range, but it needs some more polish here and there ;)
Blackcat
March 18th, 2005, 05:54 AM
-{ Quote: "From my observations @ Jotti, MKS is the #1 performing antiviral engine in the world." }-
Observing the results at Jotti's site with the different AV's is interesting.
But to extrapolate these 'results' to the conclusion that it is the 'best' antiviral engine in the world is pushing things a little far.
Best to look at the performance of any AV at a number of testing sites before any firm conclusions can be made.
Sputnik
March 18th, 2005, 08:18 AM
-{ Quote: "Best to look at the performance of any AV at a number of testing sites before any firm conclusions can be made." }-
Indeed, that's why I won't choose for ArcaVir yet, to little tests avalable...
hollywoodpc
March 18th, 2005, 08:21 AM
Hi Stylz . I am using Arcavir as a backup . Ondemand only . Doing nicely . It will be interesting to see some results in testing in the near future . Numbers are not everything but , their sigs are high .
Firecat
March 18th, 2005, 09:36 AM
-{ Quote: "Hi Stylz . I am using Arcavir as a backup . Ondemand only . Doing nicely . It will be interesting to see some results in testing in the near future . Numbers are not everything but , their sigs are high ." }-
And dont forget the heuristics engine!
Sputnik
March 18th, 2005, 09:41 AM
-{ Quote: "Hi Stylz . I am using Arcavir as a backup . Ondemand only . Doing nicely . It will be interesting to see some results in testing in the near future . Numbers are not everything but , their sigs are high ." }-
Sure, if you can effort to use a paid backup scanner it's a great choice... I'm using avast! as a backup scanner on my system, but i doubt if it's needed, never use it anyway neither... I don't think avast! catches things F-Secure misses...
No offence to avast! ofcource, if I didn't get F-Secure for free the change is big avast! would be my default :)
Sputnik
March 18th, 2005, 09:41 AM
-{ Quote: "And dont forget the heuristics engine!" }-
Nope, that's one of their specialities... 8)
Firecat
March 18th, 2005, 09:45 AM
-{ Quote: "Nope, that's one of their specialities... 8)" }-
Who said I denied it? ;D
Don Pelotas
March 18th, 2005, 09:54 AM
-{ Quote: "And dont forget the heuristics engine!" }-
How could we with you around, Kaushik ;) ;D. Anyway i'll install the Arcavir trial shortly, thanks to you and Blackcat. 8) :)
Regards
Firecat
March 18th, 2005, 09:57 AM
-{ Quote: "How could we with you around, Kaushik ;) ;D. Anyway i'll install the Arcavir trial shortly, thanks to you and Blackcat. 8) :)
Regards" }-
Nice to know you still remember my real name Don :)
And remember to post your review OK?
Regards,
Firecat
Don Pelotas
March 18th, 2005, 10:26 AM
-{ Quote: "Nice to know you still remember my real name Don :)
And remember to post your review OK?
Regards,
Firecat" }-
I'll post my impression, but i doubt that i could rival the reviews that you and StyleWarz have submitted. :)
Infinity
March 18th, 2005, 10:28 AM
Hi Firecat, so you are Kaushik? Why didn't I knew about it? :(
lol
Firecat
March 18th, 2005, 10:28 AM
-{ Quote: "I'll post my impression, but i doubt that i could rival the reviews that you and StyleWarz have submitted. :)" }-
We're young guys. Your a full grown adult. There is no direct comparison, your review will be better any day than ours. :)
Have a nice day :)
Sputnik
March 18th, 2005, 10:48 AM
-{ Quote: "We're young guys. Your a full grown adult." }-
I became an adult too in January :P
Firecat
March 18th, 2005, 10:49 AM
Grrr...So I'm the only one left out...Darn...and I'm just ABOUT to become a teenager tomorrow....Grr...wait till I become 18...wait...
;D;D;D;D
Mannaggia
March 18th, 2005, 04:57 PM
Has anyone been using ArcaVir long enough to know if it's virus updates are daily, weekly, twice a week, or what ever.
hollywoodpc
March 18th, 2005, 05:15 PM
From what I have seen over the last couple of weeks , it is everyday .
Miyagi
March 18th, 2005, 05:15 PM
Hi Mannaggia,
Virus signatures are updated in a weekday (Monday-Friday) manner. So far, I have never seen an update done during the weekends even though they state it will be available for an emergency situation. Hope this helps.
Mannaggia
March 18th, 2005, 05:28 PM
-{ Quote: "From what I have seen over the last couple of weeks , it is everyday ." }-
-{ Quote: "Hi Mannaggia,
Virus signatures are updated in a weekday (Monday-Friday) manner. So far, I have never seen an update done during the weekends even though they state it will be available for an emergency situation. Hope this helps." }-
Thank you. I just installed the trial version. Checking it out to see how it runs on my computer.
Firefighter
March 18th, 2005, 05:29 PM
-{ Quote: "... I don't think avast! catches things F-Secure misses...
No offence to avast! ofcource, if I didn't get F-Secure for free the change is big avast! would be my default :)" }-Yes it does. Almost every above average scanners can detect something that Kaspersky engined av:s as F-secure can miss, that's the salt of life.
Best regards,
Firefighter!
RejZoR
March 18th, 2005, 05:31 PM
Yup,i have seen files being missed by Kaspersky and detected by avast!/AntiVir.
hollywoodpc
March 18th, 2005, 05:35 PM
That is why I backup NOD with Arcavir . They work gracefully together .
Mannaggia
March 18th, 2005, 05:48 PM
Well I'm checking out ArcaVir and I really like every about it. Unfortunately, it looks like it's not going to work out for me. I have yahoo mail forwarded into my inbox in Outlook express. For some reason, ArcaVir won't let it through. I keep getting the "failed to connect to incoming server" error message. I've tried everything but the only thing that works is disabling the e-mail monitor. I don't want to do that. So it looks like I am going to have to uninstall it. Too bad. I really like the everything else about it.http://www.wilderssecurity.com/images/smilies/frown.gif
hollywoodpc
March 18th, 2005, 05:52 PM
I use Pocomail and I have the same problem . I asked about this and they tested it . It ran fine for them with Poco . Not with mine . Do not understand why . But , as a backup , it is nice to have . Because of the email problem , I cannot even consider it to be my real time monitor . Not that I would as NOD is great .
jmschwartz
March 18th, 2005, 06:53 PM
Hello,
I was having a similar problem with my gmail account until I disabled SSL scans.
Regards
Mannaggia
March 18th, 2005, 07:00 PM
-{ Quote: "Hello,
I was having a similar problem with my gmail account until I disabled SSL scans.
Regards" }-
I tried that also. Didn't work for me. I just got through uninstalling it. Maybe I give it another try tomorrow.
Mannaggia
March 19th, 2005, 02:20 PM
For anyone who is interested. It kept bugging me that I couldn't receive e-mail with ArcaVir e-mail scanner enabled. This morning for the heck of it, I went hunting and found some Norton stuff hanging around in my computer. I removed all. I installed ArcaVir again and now can receive e-mail with the e-mail scanner enabled. http://www.wilderssecurity.com/images/smilies/smile.gif I guess ArcaVir doesn't get along with Norton antivirus.
I'm going to run ArcaVir for awhile to see how it performs.
Strange name though.http://www.wilderssecurity.com/images/smilies/smile.gif
Mannaggia
March 19th, 2005, 02:36 PM
I have a question. The ArcaVir icon in the taskbar by the clock keeps changing to a exclamation point and back to the little ArcaVir logo. Anybody else have this happening and what does it mean?
I like the idea when hovering the cursor over the icon, you can see the date of the last update. http://www.wilderssecurity.com/images/smilies/smile.gif
Piper
March 19th, 2005, 03:46 PM
Could you pick ArcaVir 2005 over NAV 2005 and feel that you computer is secure? No NAV bashers. Just your honest opinion. I worry about my computer being safe with an antivirus software that you hardly hear about or know much about.
bigc73542
March 19th, 2005, 03:53 PM
-{ Quote: "Could you pick ArcaVir 2005 over NAV 2005 and feel that you computer is secure? No NAV bashers. Just your honest opinion. I worry about my computer being safe with an antivirus software that you hardly hear about or know much about." }-
To protect my own computer I would choose Nav. It has good detection and a long history. Arcavir might be alright but I know Nav is a decent av contrary to all of nav bashers.
bigc
Piper
March 19th, 2005, 04:29 PM
-{ Quote: "To protect my own computer I would choose Nav. It has good detection and a long history. Arcavir might be alright but I know Nav is a decent av contrary to all of nav bashers.
bigc" }-
That's basically how I feel about it too.
Piper
BlueZannetti
March 19th, 2005, 04:49 PM
-{ Quote: "Could you pick ArcaVir 2005 over NAV 2005 and feel that you computer is secure? No NAV bashers. Just your honest opinion. I worry about my computer being safe with an antivirus software that you hardly hear about or know much about." }-I can honestly say I would opt for Arcavir for my own PC.
Prior to unconditionally recommending it for another user's PC, I would like to see some objective large sample set test results out there to give me a clearer vision of detection characteristics. My own usage suggests it is quite good and at least on par with Norton.
As always, comparative stability during a trial install should be assessed
Blue
Firecat
March 19th, 2005, 05:11 PM
VirusP...come on, release some tests already!
BlueZannetti
March 19th, 2005, 05:37 PM
-{ Quote: "VirusP...come on, release some tests already!" }-Firecat,
I realize that. If you look at that test, Arcavir looks rather solid, but I'd perfer a somewhat more controlled test by, e.g. www.av-comparatives.org (http://www.av-comparatives.org/), to base advice that I may offer to others.
You could also look at some of the recent results obtained by Firefighter posted here (http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showpost.php?p=401779&postcount=78). These somewhat informal tests do fill an information void, and I view the results as useful provisional indicators of performance. For a reasonably prepared and recent testbed, these informal assessments seem to yield rankings which are roughly equivalent to the more controlled challenge tests.
Blue
Firecat
March 19th, 2005, 05:47 PM
Yeah I saw those...but normal people would only go in for an AV if it excels in professional tests...I'm already using ArcaVir and have not seen anything that it let through so far.
hollywoodpc
March 19th, 2005, 06:21 PM
I totally agree with you Blue . Very well put !
BlueZannetti
March 19th, 2005, 09:02 PM
-{ Quote: "I totally agree with you Blue . Very well put !" }-Thanks.
I just noticed that IBK mentioned (http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showpost.php?p=406541&postcount=16) that a very short overview on-demand test of some programs which readers have been clamoring for has appeared. Go to www.av-comparatives.org (http://www.av-comparatives.org/), select Comparatives, and at the bottom of the text on that page, a link to a separate test of other products is provided. No test details are, or will be, provided.
Arcavir was given a Standard rating, which puts it in the same class as Trend Micro, H+BEDV AntiVir, Avast, and Sophos. CA InnoculateIT was also rated Standard in this limited test.
As always, note Andreas' comment, which is explicit in some of the tests, that All tested products are already a selection of very good Anti-virus scan engines.
Blue
Mannaggia
March 19th, 2005, 09:57 PM
I'm no antivirus expert, so all I can go by is what I read here and eicar tests that I run. I ran the eicar test and the eicar e-mail test. ArcaVir 2005 caught them all, even the zip files before they are opened. For a layman like myself, I would have to think that's pretty good. I'll give ArcaVir a few more days.
Honyak
March 19th, 2005, 10:26 PM
-{ Quote: "I have a question. The ArcaVir icon in the taskbar by the clock keeps changing to a exclamation point and back to the little ArcaVir logo. Anybody else have this happening and what does it mean?
I like the idea when hovering the cursor over the icon, you can see the date of the last update. http://www.wilderssecurity.com/images/smilies/smile.gif" }-
If you are using the trial version, you will see the exclamation mark in your systray icon.
Mannaggia
March 20th, 2005, 02:56 AM
-{ Quote: "If you are using the trial version, you will see the exclamation mark in your systray icon." }-
Thank you Honyak. Just to let you know, I sent an e-mail to ArcaVir support just before I posted that question here. I figured I wouldn't get answer until at least next week some time. Well was I surprised to see a response from them in my inbox this evening. That was the answer they gave me also. I'm very impressed with their response time.http://www.wilderssecurity.com/images/smilies/smile.gif
Honyak
March 20th, 2005, 11:10 AM
-{ Quote: "Thank you Honyak. Just to let you know, I sent an e-mail to ArcaVir support just before I posted that question here. I figured I wouldn't get answer until at least next week some time. Well was I surprised to see a response from them in my inbox this evening. That was the answer they gave me also. I'm very impressed with their response time.http://www.wilderssecurity.com/images/smilies/smile.gif" }-
That is another good feature of ArcaVir, tech support is very responsive. Mariusz is in this forum regularly also, and if you think you have a virus or FP, submit it and they will keep you updated on the status.
This and the fact that it is a very good AV, influenced my decision to use ArcaVir.
Mannaggia
March 20th, 2005, 09:14 PM
-{ Quote: "mks_vir (orignal ArcaVir http://www.wilderssecurity.com/images/smilies/smile.gif ) has been around for quite some time. First time it was released in 1988. Since then this product received many awards.
http://mks.com.pl/nagrody.html
http://mks.com.pl/prasa.html
Mariusz" }-
Hi Mariusz. This may have been discussed before somewhere, but why the name change from mks_vir to ArcaVir?
BTW, I'm the guy who sent you the e-mail asking about the exclamation point in the taskbar. I really like ArcaVir. I think one of it's good features is that you can hover your cursor over the icon in the taskbar and see the date of the latest update. More antivirus software should do this.
RejZoR
March 21st, 2005, 01:16 AM
MKS_Vir is a name for Polish market. ArcaVir is for everywhere else (english version). But the company is the same.
SDS909
March 21st, 2005, 01:18 AM
I'm downloading the english version of MKS_2005 right now. One of my complaints about Arcavir is the interface and colors. Red is used too much, i'm used to companies using Red to highlight trouble issues and things, not as a general interface color.
Hopefully MKS_2005 looks good, and i'll run that on my second machine, and Dr. Web on my main machine to test.
hi5423
March 21st, 2005, 02:02 AM
Just tried it and its very promissing!
Also I would suggest them to implement ability to control outgoing connections.
For example I wanted to play my game and were unable to connect to the game server so I had to disable firewall...
I figured out how to enable ports and PDF manual is amazing but somebody else could have a problem to do that.
All in all i am surprised!
hi5423
March 21st, 2005, 02:07 AM
Its me again,
That web site arcavir.com need to be more professional! It looks like something made by some cheap web design software or ... dunno how to explane... Linux style heheh
Some new modern style could help some users to decide to purchase a software quick :)
jmschwartz
March 21st, 2005, 05:00 AM
Hi,
If you're in the US, go to www.stormbyte.com for ArcaVir. The website looks professional enough, at least for me. ;D
Honyak
March 21st, 2005, 12:21 PM
-{ Quote: "Just tried it and its very promissing!
Also I would suggest them to implement ability to control outgoing connections.
For example I wanted to play my game and were unable to connect to the game server so I had to disable firewall...
I figured out how to enable ports and PDF manual is amazing but somebody else could have a problem to do that.
All in all i am surprised!" }-
For now I do not use the firewall in ArcaVir, I still use Kerio 2.1.5. The ArcaVir firewall looks promising, but needs to improve before I use it.
As far as the interface and website, I do not really care how they look, I am more concerned with the performance and functionality of the product.
But it does seem to matter to some people.
Firecat
March 21st, 2005, 12:31 PM
-{ Quote: "For now I do not use the firewall in ArcaVir, I still use Kerio 2.1.5. The ArcaVir firewall looks promising, but needs to improve before I use it.
As far as the interface and website, I do not really care how they look, I am more concerned with the performance and functionality of the product.
But it does seem to matter to some people." }-
Aesthetics matter a lot to non-experienced users, y'know.
The ArcaVir firewall scored a 100% at Trend Micro's http://www.hackercheck.com
And it will be much improved in 2006 version as I've mentioned many times before.
Just my bit :)
Regards,
Firecat
mikesu
March 21st, 2005, 01:16 PM
-{ Quote: "MKS_Vir is a name for Polish market. ArcaVir is for everywhere else (english version). But the company is the same." }-
It isn't the same company - but there are the same people ;)
Mannaggia
March 21st, 2005, 02:18 PM
-{ Quote: "This may have been discussed before somewhere, but why the name change from mks_vir to ArcaVir?" }-
Quote:
Originally Posted by RejZoR
MKS_Vir is a name for Polish market. ArcaVir is for everywhere else (english version). But the company is the same.
-{ Quote: "It isn't the same company - but there are the same people http://www.wilderssecurity.com/images/smilies/wink.gif" }-
Thanks for clearing that up. I think I like the MKS_Vir name better. http://www.wilderssecurity.com/images/smilies/wink.gif http://www.wilderssecurity.com/images/smilies/smile.gif Joking aside, I think I finally have found the antivirus I've been looking for. http://www.wilderssecurity.com/images/smilies/biggrin.gif I haven't tried the firewall yet, but everything else is very nice.
RejZoR
March 21st, 2005, 03:28 PM
You know what i meant :P Company is the same,but name is different :P
Mannaggia
March 21st, 2005, 06:01 PM
I've running ArcaVir's trial verson a few days now. What I have noticed so far.........
I'm on cable HSI and I have noticed a slight slowdown in connection speeds. Also noticed that opening my e-mail program takes a little longer. I get e-mails on a daily basis with links attached. I found that it takes longer to get to those links after clicking on them.
larouse
March 23rd, 2005, 06:57 AM
-{ Quote: "I've running ArcaVir's trial verson a few days now. What I have noticed so far.........
I get e-mails on a daily basis with links attached. I found that it takes longer to get to those links after clicking on them." }-
I have Wireless Connection and I noticed slow Email Downloaded, take time to Download in comparation with other's
Mannaggia
March 23rd, 2005, 05:29 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mannaggia
I've running ArcaVir's trial verson a few days now. What I have noticed so far.........
I get e-mails on a daily basis with links attached. I found that it takes longer to get to those links after clicking on them.
-{ Quote: "I have Wireless Connection and I noticed slow Email Downloaded, take time to Download in comparation with other's" }-
I'm glad I'm not the only one who has noticed this. I was beginning to think it was just me.http://www.wilderssecurity.com/images/smilies/smile.gif
larouse
March 23rd, 2005, 05:57 PM
-{ Quote: "Quote:
Originally Posted by Mannaggia
I've running ArcaVir's trial verson a few days now. What I have noticed so far.........
I get e-mails on a daily basis with links attached. I found that it takes longer to get to those links after clicking on them.
I'm glad I'm not the only one who has noticed this. I was beginning to think it was just me.http://www.wilderssecurity.com/images/smilies/smile.gif" }-
Is very noticed in the Emails take at lot time....I lost my money because I bought two licences and Uninstalled this AV.... >:( ....Will contact with ARCAVIR to know if I would donate or transfer the licences, don't like it.
Mannaggia
March 23rd, 2005, 06:30 PM
-{ Quote: "Is very noticed in the Emails take at lot time....I lost my money because I bought two licences and Uninstalled this AV.... http://www.wilderssecurity.com/images/smilies/mad.gif ....Will contact with ARCAVIR to know if I would donate or transfer the licences, don't like it." }-
Yeah, I know what you mean. I thought I was going to be very happy with ArcaVir, but I've noticed it slows things down a little too much for me. http://www.wilderssecurity.com/images/smilies/frown.gif I think I'm going to uninstall it.
Maybe you didn't lose your money. Maybe it's possible to get a refund. I'm only using the trial version.
Good luck.
Firecat
March 24th, 2005, 01:36 AM
Hmm...I never had any problems with email on my PC...Hang on guys, I'll let Mariusz know about this thread.
Regards,
Firecat
Mannaggia
March 24th, 2005, 01:40 AM
-{ Quote: "Hmm...I never had any problems with email on my PC...Hang on guys, I'll let Mariusz know about this thread.
Regards,
Firecat" }-
That would be great if you can get some information this Firecat. Thanks.
Firecat
March 24th, 2005, 01:45 AM
OK I did a bit of snooping around...and it seems ArcaVir does some POP3 filtering. By default it tries to remove all scripts from HTML messages...It could be causing the slight delays on email.
This can be disabled in the Mail Scanner, just look for it Under 'Advanced' in POP3 (there will be a tag called 'filtering')
Try it and let me know guys.
Regards,
Firecat
Firecat
March 24th, 2005, 09:29 AM
OK Everyone,
Could be major!
After today's update (24 March), I am seeing that there is a Process Manager integrated into ArcaVir....This means AntiSpam will be there soon!
Maybe someone can give more details on this Process Manager.
ArcaVir is improving fast.
Regards,
Firecat
stormbyte
March 24th, 2005, 09:36 AM
-{ Quote: "OK Everyone,
Could be major!
After today's update (24 March), I am seeing that there is a Process Manager integrated into ArcaVir....This means AntiSpam will be there soon!
Maybe someone can give more details on this Process Manager.
" }-
Well, Process Manager is a simple module that can be used to kill processes that are causing problems, or set priority of the process (from idle to high)
Mariusz
Firecat
March 24th, 2005, 09:40 AM
Hey Mariusz,
Have you noticed the problems people are reporting with email...read this thread completely....I never experienced anything myself though.
Regards,
Firecat
stormbyte
March 24th, 2005, 09:43 AM
-{ Quote: "Hey Mariusz,
Have you noticed the problems people are reporting with email...read this thread completely....I never experienced anything myself though.
Regards,
Firecat" }-
Well my question is - how much slower is it working?
Mariusz
mikel108
March 24th, 2005, 10:26 AM
-{ Quote: "Aesthetics matter a lot to non-experienced users, y'know.
Just my bit :)
Regards,
Firecat" }-
I agree Firecat with the above statement.
This is where the majority of the market is. I do a lot of image molding and marketing. I can tell you that without a professional looking package, 99% of all products are certain to fail. I consider myself a voice for the masses, as I am not very technical.
With utmost respect, (to Stormbyte, and Arcavir). I know that a lot of effort has gone into your product, and it may very well be one of the best. However it is probably the ugliest interface I have seen on an AV, and because of this I would not even try it.
stormbyte
March 24th, 2005, 10:41 AM
-{ Quote: "
With utmost respect, (to Stormbyte, and Arcavir). I know that a lot of effort has gone into your product, and it may very well be one of the best. However it is probably the ugliest interface I have seen on an AV, and because of this I would not even try it." }-
De gustibus non est disputandum.
Mariusz
ps. there is new interface planed for the 2006 version, but as far as I know, there is no way to make everyone happy.
mikel108
March 24th, 2005, 10:52 AM
Your right about not being able to please everyone.
However, from what I have seen, you offer superior support, which nowadays seems a thing of the past with many products.
And the Technical people really like Arcavir, and as you know from this board Stormbyte, thats not the easiest thing to do.
Honyak
March 24th, 2005, 10:53 AM
-{ Quote: "I agree Firecat with the above statement.
This is where the majority of the market is. I do a lot of image molding and marketing. I can tell you that without a professional looking package, 99% of all products are certain to fail. I consider myself a voice for the masses, as I am not very technical.
With utmost respect, (to Stormbyte, and Arcavir). I know that a lot of effort has gone into your product, and it may very well be one of the best. However it is probably the ugliest interface I have seen on an AV, and because of this I would not even try it." }-
Take a look at DrWeb's interface, an excellent AV but the interface is awful.
I personally do not like all the red that ArcaVir's interface uses and a few other things, but I do not open it and look at it unless I need to.
99% of the masses probably would not know proffessional graphics from amateur graphics, they just like what is pleasing to the eyes + some eye candy, and that is my biggest issue with the color red, too much of it is hard on the eyes.
I do agree however that it is not as proffesional looking as it could be.
But you can't please everyone. LOL
mikel108
March 24th, 2005, 11:11 AM
I agree Honyak, and in fact I was just coming back to clarify why I do not like the interface.
Brown, red and electric green are just not that pleaseing to the eye.
From much research and seminars I have attended colours and layout are a big part of the presentation (re: what looks good to the eye)
From what I have learned :
Black is probably the best colour for using for printed matter.
Yellow is a safe neutral colour (which is probably part of the allure many have with Norton. Which I will wade in even further and say to me has the best interface)
Red has been found to be strong with men
While blue is the most pleasing to women
Sputnik
March 24th, 2005, 11:14 AM
-{ Quote: "While blue is the most pleasing to women" }-
So women like F-Secure :P
mikel108
March 24th, 2005, 11:30 AM
-{ Quote: "So women like F-Secure :P" }-
LOL I knew that was coming.
Actually those in the know tend to put a little more weight on quality of product. Like Stormbyte said it is hard to please everyone. Companies spend Billions tring to find out what will get people to buy their product. Colour is only one part of the puzzle, but it is one of the very first things that a consumer sees. That first few seconds are usually what makes or breaks a sale.
Wading in even deeper, I will look a food sales. Pop companies will spend millions on securing the right spokesperson for their product. Now take away the spokesperson, run the same number of ads, lower the price and your sales will lower. Seems backwards.
Image is everything to many people. Like Honyak said, it is eye candy, or smoke and mirrors if you perfer.
Anyways enough on the subject by me. I just wanted to state what MHO was. As Stormbyte pointed out they are working on a new interface. Which shows that companies are always trying to improve their product, as sales is the bottom line.
EDIT:
As one last note. There are manys things on the web that will better inform you about colour and sales. I have included 2 links from ad agencies, and the first thing they talk about is colour.
http://www.imagingsolutions.net/Color_Rocks.htm
http://www.marketilluminations.com/seminars.shtml
hollywoodpc
March 24th, 2005, 11:47 AM
Mariusz said a new interface is coming . That said , let us concentrate on the AV itself . I now use this product . Although it is early on , I find it to be very efficient . No slowdown noticed here but , as FireCat said , check for POP filtering . I believe as time goes by , this AV will rate at the top . Mariusz is already looking into how to get this product inducted into differing tests . In MY real world , thus far , it is working like a champ . I have purposely gone where I should not go . It has caught everything trying to get on my system . And , I backed this up by running a scan with another AV that found I was clean . No false Positives yet . I think the talk of possible FP's is overblown now . Most of that seems to have been worked out . And the support IS excellent ! It took them awhile this last time but , they are in the process of moving . And they will jump on any problem you may nave to try to reproduce it and get it fixed if it is in their product . I love this thing now . I truly do . Hope that may help someone
hollingwood
April 9th, 2005, 05:10 PM
-{ Quote: "Aesthetics matter a lot to non-experienced users, y'know.
The ArcaVir firewall scored a 100% at Trend Micro's http://www.hackercheck.com
And it will be much improved in 2006 version as I've mentioned many times before.
Just my bit :)
Regards,
Firecat" }-
I am now using Arcavir after seeing it reviewed and discussed on the forums, and am very pleased with it working well on my system. I noticed the above quote and have a question for someone to answer. I have the firewall in Arcavir enabled and I followed the link to www.hackercheck.com and had my ports scanned. I did not receive 100% as above, as it said that I had problems with ports 22, 53, and 80 with a brief explanation. (All other ports it said were secure) However when I had the ports scanned via the GRC Gibson site and also the Sygate site, both of these say that all ports are fully stealth and there are no problems.
Is this something to do with protocols? I know that GRC and Sygate scan using TCP. Was the Hackercheck site scanning with UDP? Although it did not say anything about protocols as far as I could see. I am puzzled.
Sorry this comment is about firewalls in the antivirus section, but i was following the above quote with my question. Thanks.
hollingwood
Firecat
April 10th, 2005, 04:01 AM
On my PC, ArcaVir firewall still does well at hackercheck.com
richrf
April 10th, 2005, 09:15 AM
Interesting product. I ran it with the highest level of heuristics and it flagged Security Task Mananger (taskman.exe) and Unhackme (unhackme.com) as having "suspicious code". False positives - but it does indicate that their heuristics is able to catch executables that hook into the system. I like this. Do products like NOD32 and KAV have equivalent capabiilties and have simply adjusted so that there are no FPs, or is ArcaVir doing something special here? Any comments?
Rich
Firecat
April 10th, 2005, 10:05 AM
I think NOD32 can do just as well as ArcaVir in heuristics (maybe better :D), just that NOD heuristics are very fine-tuned till now (at least thats how I figure it).
KAV really does not have too much in the heuristics department.
richrf
April 10th, 2005, 10:17 AM
Thanks Firecat. It's always tough to say on these kind of things. Really good heuristics would filter out all "trusted apps", but only the vendor's developers really know for sure. I am looking forward to any retrospective tests that include ArcaVir and NOD32.
Rich
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