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gottadoit
February 19th, 2005, 08:36 AM
Jason,
I was reading your license agreement and was wondering about a couple of things that seemed a little OTT
I'm not suggesting you will actually do anything wrong, but equally well someone else may come and purchase your company and then who knows what might happen

-{ Quote: "You may keep 1 backup of your keyfile." }-
I'm not really sure that I'd go onto my old backups and remove the RegDefend keyfile in order to comply with this... not to mention that most of them are on RO media so its not entirely practical
What is the purpose of having this statement in the agreement ?

-{ Quote: "TERM:
Licensed end users are granted a license to use RegDefend with no expiry, unless specifically indicated in their keyfile. This license shall be automatically terminated if you breach any of the terms or conditions. Licensed end users are entitled to FREE updates of all RegDefend binaries and database updates. Purchase is non-refundable after the license has been generated at Ghost Security. Ghost Security reserves the right to terminate the License at any time." }-

Reserving the right to terminate the "license to use" your product after someone has purchased a right to use seems a little odd... what is the purpose behind wanting to have this ?

Also just by performing periodic full backups of a computer the license file will be on more than 1 backup and that would automatically invalidate the license... ??

-{ Quote: "OWNERSHIP OF KEYFILE:
You can use the RegDefend keyfile (filename "licensekey.csu") but you do not become an owner of it. Ownership and title of the RegDefend keyfile is retained by Ghost Security. You may not sell, transfer, publish, distribute, or otherwise give anyone any RegDefend keyfile(s). Ghost Security reserves the right to terminate keyfile(s) at any time without notice upon their own discretion." }-

I can see that you might wish to lock out keyfiles that have been stolen from PC's to cut down on piracy, but if you made use of the provision to terminate a keyfile why couldn't you email the legitimate owner informing them of it and telling them how to contact you to get a new one. If the registered user hasn't kept their email address up to date, then thats hardly your problem

Thanks

Jason_R0
February 19th, 2005, 08:58 AM
-{ Quote: "Jason,
I was reading your license agreement and was wondering about a couple of things that seemed a little OTT
I'm not suggesting you will actually do anything wrong, but equally well someone else may come and purchase your company and then who knows what might happen


I'm not really sure that I'd go onto my old backups and remove the RegDefend keyfile in order to comply with this... not to mention that most of them are on RO media so its not entirely practical
What is the purpose of having this statement in the agreement ?



Reserving the right to terminate the "license to use" your product after someone has purchased a right to use seems a little odd... what is the purpose behind wanting to have this ?

Also just by performing periodic full backups of a computer the license file will be on more than 1 backup and that would automatically invalidate the license... ??



I can see that you might wish to lock out keyfiles that have been stolen from PC's to cut down on piracy, but if you made use of the provision to terminate a keyfile why couldn't you email the legitimate owner informing them of it and telling them how to contact you to get a new one. If the registered user hasn't kept their email address up to date, then thats hardly your problem

Thanks" }-

Well, some of those details are from the CryptoSuite license agreement, I will have to update that licensekey.csu part especially. :)

But that other stuff is just there for protection, I know it seems in a way very anti-friendly. It's not our problem is someone's machine gets infected and someone steals the key and it's distributed, etc, so the onus shouldn't be on us to email the victim and tell them their key has been stolen. However in the cases where this has happened we have indeed emailed them and told them.

There is many reasons why the serial-code/keyfile might have to be removed from a user, and instead of listing every possible event it is much easier to say we reserve to right for any reason. Sure this means it can be abused by the company, but if any company did that for long they would have no customers, so it's not in our best interests to block keyfiles for no valid reason.

Hope that makes sense, thanks for spotting the error(s). :)

Paranoid2000
February 19th, 2005, 10:47 AM
On a related issue, what is the exact scope of the Unlimited Licence? All computers owned by the licence holder? All computers owned within a single location/network? All computers in a single location owned by close relations (a "family" licence)? Any absolute restriction on numbers of copies?

Jason_R0
February 19th, 2005, 11:04 AM
All computers owned by the person who registered it and any computers which stay in the home/residence of said person. It must be for "personal use" only however. :)

Paranoid2000
February 19th, 2005, 11:28 AM
Thanks for the info. :)