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Pollmaster
February 16th, 2005, 12:00 PM
Do you use a hardware firewall/NAT router?

LowWaterMark
February 16th, 2005, 02:14 PM
The off topic posts were removed. Let's keep only to the poll topic folks. Thanks.

ronjor
February 16th, 2005, 02:29 PM
Linksys

Jimbob1989
February 16th, 2005, 02:30 PM
Netgear :P

Antarctica
February 16th, 2005, 04:17 PM
Netgear here too. :)

Jimbob1989
February 16th, 2005, 04:17 PM
-{ Quote: "Netgear here too. :)" }-

Quality ;D

dog
February 16th, 2005, 04:23 PM
LOL ... I be the Lone D-Link owner. :P :)

darkmatter
February 16th, 2005, 04:25 PM
Netgear here three ;)

Jimbob1989
February 16th, 2005, 04:36 PM
I remember it beign a pain in the a*se when I wanted to buy my router. Netgear seems to be a popular make and getting one was a real pain, and it was coming up to christmas.

Jimbob

Grumble
February 16th, 2005, 07:01 PM
Another D-Link. :) Wireless. ;D

rdsu
February 16th, 2005, 07:40 PM
I don't have a router, but when I could buy one with wireless support... :)

bigc73542
February 16th, 2005, 07:42 PM
Linksys wireless

Jimbob1989
February 16th, 2005, 07:45 PM
Forgot to mention. Netgear Wireless Router and ADSL Modem.

Jimbob

BlueZannetti
February 16th, 2005, 07:51 PM
Zyxel Zywall

Mr2cents
February 16th, 2005, 07:56 PM
I don't use a router, software firewall only. Kerio 2.1.5

meneer
February 18th, 2005, 04:49 AM
linux gateway counts as software, I presume?

Phant0m
February 19th, 2005, 07:54 AM
I have a D-Link Router, and it is hooked up, but I don’t use any of the filtering capabilities, so I voted to D-Link.

But I let software means do the filtering…

flinchlock
February 19th, 2005, 08:15 AM
IPCop (http://www.ipcop.org/) on an old junk PC (Dell 233MHz/256MB).

Mike

Jimbob1989
February 19th, 2005, 12:19 PM
-{ Quote: "IPCop (http://www.ipcop.org/) on an old junk PC (Dell 233MHz/256MB).

Mike" }-

Does IP Cop act like a server? supposedely this old junk pc is placed infront of the main pc which is connected through the network.

Jimbob

JimIT
February 19th, 2005, 02:39 PM
D-Link!

Alec
February 19th, 2005, 05:21 PM
I am currently using a Juniper NetScreen 5GT, which is a SOHO type firewall and IPSec VPN appliance. It is a very good and highly configurable dedicated firewall/VPN device, although they are sort of pricey. However, I received mine basically for free in relation to my job. The NetScreens scale from this SOHO box all the way to carrier-class, multi-gigabit, fiber-optic interconnect devices. However, it doesn't support wireless, so I'm probably looking to just replace it with a Belkin Pre-N wireless router pretty soon. I have heard good things about these Pre-N MIMO (Multiple-In Multiple-Out) wireless routers. They have noticeably longer range than normal, even when coupled with standard b/g cards on the other end. I really need to go wireless. ;)

BlueZannetti
February 19th, 2005, 08:53 PM
-{ Quote: "I am currently using a Juniper NetScreen 5GT, which is a SOHO type firewall and IPSec VPN appliance. It is a very good and highly configurable dedicated firewall/VPN device, although they are sort of pricey. However, I received mine basically for free in relation to my job. The NetScreens scale from this SOHO box all the way to carrier-class, multi-gigabit, fiber-optic interconnect devices. However, it doesn't support wireless, so I'm probably looking to just replace it with a Belkin Pre-N wireless router pretty soon. I have heard good things about these Pre-N MIMO (Multiple-In Multiple-Out) wireless routers. They have noticeably longer range than normal, even when coupled with standard b/g cards on the other end. I really need to go wireless. ;)" }-Alec,

Rather than replacing your router, which is feature rich on the security side, why don't you just pick up a decent wireless router, disable the DHCP server, and use it as an access point only? That's basically what I have. The Zyxel Zywall mentioned above is my router, but I do have a Linksys WRT54GS router acting simply as an access point for the wireless branch of my home LAN. Extremely simple to set up and you retain your current router's feature set.

Blue

Jimbob1989
February 20th, 2005, 03:47 AM
-{ Quote: "Alec,

Rather than replacing your router, which is feature rich on the security side, why don't you just pick up a decent wireless router, disable the DHCP server, and use it as an access point only? That's basically what I have. The Zyxel Zywall mentioned above is my router, but I do have a Linksys WRT54GS router acting simply as an access point for the wireless branch of my home LAN. Extremely simple to set up and you retain your current router's feature set.

Blue" }-

So you have just added a wireless access point after the router? doesn't that mean that they need 2 seperate power supplies?

Jimbob

BlueZannetti
February 20th, 2005, 07:52 AM
-{ Quote: "So you have just added a wireless access point after the router? doesn't that mean that they need 2 seperate power supplies?

Jimbob" }-Well, like any other appliance, you do have to plug it in, so, yes 2 supplies are needed. The power demands are trivial so I don't see issues here.

Blue

Jimbob1989
February 20th, 2005, 08:00 AM
-{ Quote: "Well, like any other appliance, you do have to plug it in, so, yes 2 supplies are needed. The power demands are trivial so I don't see issues here.

Blue" }-

It was not the power supply I was concerned about but the lack of sockets ;D

Alec
February 20th, 2005, 12:24 PM
Blue,

Yeah, I might do exactly like you suggest. :)

But, I haven't really made too much use of some of the higher end features of the NetScreen like VPN and some of the more detailed firewall policy creation and logging. So, if these new wireless access points have a decent enough firewall implementation then I may just switch over to using it and then using the NetScreen somewhere else. I have been reading some reviews and the Belkin that I'm looking at is supposedly a true SPI firewall and not just simply NAT.

To some extent I actually am trying to avoid the physical clutter with all of the cables and powerplugs that Jimbob mentioned. It becomes a real rats nest with the power strip, ADSL modem, firewall/router, and wireless access point all sitting there. But, I guess, once you set it up who cares, right?

^Ale
February 21st, 2005, 11:13 AM
Netgear Wireless Router and ADSL Modem DG834G

flinchlock
February 22nd, 2005, 05:25 PM
-{ Quote: "Does IP Cop act like a server? supposedely this old junk pc is placed infront of the main pc which is connected through the network.

Jimbob" }-Sorry I haven't got back to you sooner. IPCop supports all the usually high and low speed "modems". I'm on dialup thru a Zoom modem. The NIC card in IPCop connects to my 8-port switch, that feeds about 1/2 dozen PCs, a Samba server, and a HP JetDirect card. The family uses a regular Web browser to connect/disconnect IPCop to the bad "RED" internet. If you are really interested, goto to the IPCop website and look around. If you want more real world info, just PM me. ;D ;D

Trout
February 23rd, 2005, 09:07 PM
Linksys Wireless

INTOXSICKATED
February 23rd, 2005, 10:26 PM
i think i'm the only one stupid enough to use a microsoft router. :(

AJohn
February 23rd, 2005, 10:26 PM
I am a poud user of the LinkSys WRT54G(S). For those using/considering a D-Link product, I suggest you read this first:
http://www.fluxgfx.com/ssc/showthread.php?t=38&page=1&pp=15

`mishimasan`
February 24th, 2005, 11:41 AM
Would people rate D-Link better than Netgear? I'm running a wired Netgear DG834. It's not so good TBH, but then again I haven't tried any other routers apart from the Cisco models - and realistically speaking they aren't for home use.

Also, sorry to break the topic here, but I am concerned about wireless security. How is the authentication implemented and is there a high risk that someone could be logging into your home network from a couple of doors down the block?

What is the maximum effect range for a wireless LAN?

chrisretusn
March 4th, 2005, 12:03 AM
I use a ZyXEL Prestige 600 Router provided by my ISP.

Clowny
March 4th, 2005, 12:16 AM
I still have my old trusty Linksys BEFSR41. One of these days I want to go wireless.

Security Freak
April 16th, 2005, 03:43 PM
in two months i think buy my Hardware Firewall,maybe wireless altough wired is more secure.

Ren1
April 16th, 2005, 03:57 PM
Wireless linksys

iwod
April 21st, 2005, 06:08 PM
I am always on a Network which means 99% of time i am behind a firewall

Triple Helix
April 21st, 2005, 10:48 PM
Linksys;)

Security Freak
April 22nd, 2005, 02:41 PM
i buy my D-Link DI-604 1 hour ago,now i go to install my new baby.........D Link DI-604 (http://www.mercadolibre.com.ar/org-img/preview/MLA/122004/14674571_531.jpg) .............. ;D

nadirah
April 22nd, 2005, 11:41 PM
I use only a software firewall. I only have 1 computer in my house and I connect to the cable modem with ethernet 100 MBPS. Single connection only. No routers or anything else.

YeOldeStonecat
April 25th, 2005, 02:01 PM
Varies from time to time. Usually just hardware NAT. Lately, my Netopia gateway. But previously, Linksys, Netgear, Nexland ISB SOHO, for a while was all software only with ISA 2000 on my multi homed SBS server. Soon..hope to have the Linksys/Cisco RV082 router. Love that beast.

Also may do ISA2004 when SP1 for SBS2K3 comes out.

Trooper
April 27th, 2005, 05:01 PM
Linksys. ;)

akshay_k72
July 18th, 2005, 12:50 PM
In my home I have a Dlink DSL-502T router which has NAT based hardware firewall.

And at work I use Netgear DG834G wireless router which has both NAT and SPI based hardware firewalls.

Cheers

Akshay.

Ardias
July 18th, 2005, 01:18 PM
Linksys.

The Hammer
July 18th, 2005, 04:12 PM
-{ Quote: "i buy my D-Link DI-604 1 hour ago,now i go to install my new baby.........D Link DI-604 (http://www.mercadolibre.com.ar/org-img/preview/MLA/122004/14674571_531.jpg) .............. ;D" }-
I have the same one.

ErikAlbert
July 18th, 2005, 05:43 PM
I use no router, because routers always cost money.
It's a pity that hardware has no freewares, while software has so many freewares.
That's NOT logical !!! >:(

WSFuser
July 18th, 2005, 10:26 PM
i only use outpost but im getting a netgear router/firewall soon so i can connect my spare computer and start folding some more.

sweater
July 30th, 2005, 09:21 AM
:D

I am just content using software firewall coz there are no available freeware hardware firewalls yet... he, he, he. ... ;D

But I think as long as you have the latest software protections and updates, a hardware firewall is not needed. (of course if you are a business guy and too much concerned w security then probably you have to have one, but the downside is that it is expensive to upgrade, and for simple guy like me then software firewalls is just fine) ;) :)

Atomic_Ed
August 12th, 2005, 07:41 PM
SMC Barricade