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AnthonyG
February 12th, 2005, 10:50 AM
This one is something that has always perplexed me. I am looking to backup (snapshot) my entire C: Drive for the simple reason that if anything goes wrong i would want to have something to restore my machine exactly how it was instead of the long route i.e doing the manufacturers system restore then spending days reinstalling all my software.

So i am looking for something reliable, very easy to use and something that will take an exact snapshot of everything on my c: drive including all settings i may have in place.

Which would you recommend to try. (can i also ask how good is norton ghost as that is the only one i have really heard of)

Thanks

bigbuck
February 12th, 2005, 10:15 PM
Hi Anthony,
Ghost works fine for me.

Blackspear
February 12th, 2005, 10:19 PM
Acronis True Image, and a real plus, they have their official forum right here at Wilders ;D

Cheers ;D

bigbuck
February 12th, 2005, 10:21 PM
Anthony,
A couple of recent threads.....
http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=65420&highlight=backup
http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=65288

Also you might want to look in the Acronis forum.
Cheers,
Buck.

Ailric
February 12th, 2005, 10:35 PM
I use Nero. I can easily fit my entire system to one DVD. Fast and simple.

Detox
February 13th, 2005, 01:04 AM
I use Acronis TI also - seems to work quite well although I admit that the restores I have done so far have been "tests" and not under "duress" so to speak. Nonetheless, they have been successful up till now and I find the application rather intuitive - although I sometimes seem to disagree with others in regards to the intuitiveness of programs.

gerardwil
February 13th, 2005, 03:35 AM
I retored twice my C: drive with Acronis TI without problems. Just pay attention if you have anti-malware progs on it regarding the updates of engines/definitions.

Gerard

Omicron
February 13th, 2005, 05:42 AM
Acronis True Image

Can't tell
February 13th, 2005, 07:47 AM
Hi

I in a sense alternate between Ghost, Drive Image, and Acronis True Image

Ghost has been my first imaging software a couple of years ago, probably because of the hyper active policy of Symantec to promote their products (nothing wrong with that). I thought G2002 was a good product.

It served me well when I was running W98SE. Now I am on WXP, and current version (2003 and 9) does the job... BUT, when restoring an image, I get error messages... although the restoring process has unfolded without a crash. The restored drive seems to work flawlessly after that also, but I don't like those error messages, 'cause I can't be really sure everything is allright.

Rather expensive also, IMHO

Symantec recently bought Powerquest (which created Drive Image a few years back), but I still think Symantec has the bad habit of in some way mess up the good software they buy from other companies. Just IMHO, of course.

Acronis True Image was a good surprise for me. I came along it by chance, and decided I would give it a try. I must admit I tend to like Acronis's products more and more now I know them better. The only thing I hope will be improved in the near future is the needed time to restore images. Easily takes up on my machine (XPSP1 or SP2) four to five times (!) longer than Powerquest Drive Image for same quantity of data...
I love the interface, though, and the real time imaging works flawlessly and quickly, and I think it's a good thing another company stays in the competition for such softwares (would not be a good thging if Symantec should take the entire market shares!). Incremental imaging I first came across because of True Image. Much cheaper than Symantec's products, too, and Acronis products I tend to trust more.

Although no longer developed as such, nor by Powerquest, Drive Image 2002 I still prefer, even over the excellent Acronis. VERY quick, reliable, easy to use, never had any problem with it. The DI 7 version allows for real time imaging, but it needs .NET from M$ to install on your system (DI 2002 does not need anything at all to install). DI 2002 still works perfectly on WXP, but that's likely to go unnoticed in the future. Why? DI2002 installs and runs smoothly on WXPSP1. If you then upgrade to SP2, it will still work perfectly. What doesn't go without problem is installing directly on WXSP2
I love the StartUp Restore floppies pair created by DI2002. DI7 cd is also bootable, so the restore can be launched from this cd.

Old boxes of DriveImage7 are still available for buying on the net. If you do purchase one, make sure it is an original box, containing both DI7 AND DI2002.

Ghost 9 is, in a sense, a mix of Ghost and DI7, but as I've said, my heart went to DriveImage (Powerquest versions) and stayed there, although I'll be monitoring Acronis's future progress. Should DI become obsolete with future versions of the OS's, I'll go for Acronis.

Smokey
February 13th, 2005, 07:55 AM
-{ Quote: "Which would you recommend to try" }-
The is no decent answer on your question, when you read the forums with topics about image programs and problems that exist with ALL of them, you will know what I mean.

It's a question of personal taste AND experience, my taste now is Symantec Livestate Recovery.

Can't tell
February 13th, 2005, 08:07 AM
-{ Quote: "Should DI become obsolete with future versions of the OS's, I'll go for Acronis." }-
Forgot to mention that Floppies made from Drive Image to boot-and-create or to boot-and-restore will do the job eternally as long as one has the ability to boot the system from a floppy drive. It then has to be an integrated drive, because booting from an usb-floppy-drive is not possible.

deckie49
February 19th, 2005, 12:52 AM
i use to use norton ghost. worked great until i upgraded to sata drives.
i then tried acronis. pure crap as far as i am concerned. could not get it to do anything without problems.
i am now using "image for windows" . great program.. is not as graphically user friendly as the others, but it is rock solid. and cheap!!

Chris12923
February 19th, 2005, 01:45 AM
I recommend Acronis True Image 8. Never had one problem with it.

Thanks,

Chris

flinchlock
February 19th, 2005, 08:28 AM
I have been using GHOST forever ... at least 7 years???? (Before Symantec bought the company that invented GHOST.)

My current GHOST is from Norton Ghost 2003 that fits on a boot floppy. I use the GHOST boot floppy and a Lite-ON 1633S DVD burner to make a bootable DVD.

I'm running W98, XP/SP2, SuSE Pro 9.2, and have NEVER EVER NEVER had any errors/problems with GHOST. ;D ;D ;D ;D

Mike

gud4u
February 21st, 2005, 11:49 AM
I used the Ghost version from Norton 2002 for a long time. When I decided to image to DVD media, that option was not supported.

I tried TI8, quickly forming the opinion that it is unreliable bloatware.

I use terabyte 'Image for DOS'. It's inexpensive, non-bloatware and reliable. I've successfully restored my OS partition from DVD media several times with this product.

Hope this helps!

butterfly
June 20th, 2005, 02:30 AM
Based on your clearly described objectives, I strongly recommend Acronis True Image. I have it on my home computer, and it works like a champ. You can read about this product, download their user guide for free, and buy it online.

http://www.acronis.com/homecomputing/products/trueimage/

Best wishes,

butterfly

squash
June 20th, 2005, 04:05 AM
A minimal install of Fedora, Ubuntu or any good Linux distro on another partition and run a program called Partition Image. It will save and restore your windows NTFS partition without need for cd, just reboot computer, load linux and :) It's what I use, no problems what so ever.

It only takes me 7 minutes to save this windows xp 3.00GB partition and around 5 to restore. Using Ubuntu.

dog
June 20th, 2005, 09:32 AM
Another Vote for True Image ... Which is the best Imaging Software I've used yet :D

ErikAlbert
June 20th, 2005, 05:03 PM
I don't use any backup system to save my entire harddisk.

All my softwares are stored on CD or diskette.
All my personal files are stored on CD and deleted on my harddisk, except the ones I'm working on.
So my harddisk must be very boring for hackers, because it contains nothing but software and a few personal files and nothing on my harddisk exposes my identity, except my initials.
If something serious happens, I'm always able to re-install my computer from scratch at any time.

Most of my scanners congratulate me that nothing was found (Only an idiot believes that).
I don't trust any of these security softwares and that's why I re-install my harddisk twice a year to get rid of all the malwares, that weren't detected/removed by my scanners.

Why would I need an expensive backup system ?
Please tell me some good arguments to convice me that I really need one.
What's the point of having a True Image, when your computer is infected already ?

dog
June 20th, 2005, 05:51 PM
Hi Erik, ;)

There are two main reasons for me ... 1. beta testing or just testing/tying out software temporarily, 2. Having a nice baseline image to start with after reformatting - With all your Security Apps and other programs installed and configured, services config the way you like them etc. etc. instead of fiddling around for several hours, it's just a quick update for windows (which you could DL'd prior to), and basically updating your security apps.

It all comes down to Acronis' slogan to me ... "Compute with Confidence" ... ~No Fear~ :)

Steve

ErikAlbert
June 20th, 2005, 06:57 PM
Dog,
Thanks alot for your reply.
Before I start reading all about Acronis, I have one question.
Can I create an Acronis True Image of my harddisk on CD and recover from that CD after re-formatting my harddisk ?
I have a PlexWriter 12/4/32 that is able to write on CD, not DVD.

Keep in mind that I don't mind the time that will be needed to create such a CD or several CD's. I'm just asking if it is possible ?
I wouldn't like to buy additional hardware to make an Acronis True Image possible, because all my hardware is still working fine and I don't need any additional hardware.

rdsu
June 20th, 2005, 07:03 PM
I use Acronis True Image...

ErikAlbert
June 20th, 2005, 07:05 PM
VaMPiRiC_CRoW,
Sorry, but that doesn't make me any smarter and doesn't answer my question :)

dog
June 20th, 2005, 07:44 PM
Hi Eric, ;)

Yes, Acronis will write direct to CD, and it can also write to DVD with the use of 3rd party programs such as Nero's InCD (and it is planned to have native support for direct DVD writing in a future release) . I don't write direct to CD/DVD, I create the image on the HHD (split into the appropriate size 650MB for CD, and up to 2GB for DVD), then burn them to disc later using Nero ROM. I generally store my images on a few different partitions on my secondary HHD, because it's much quicker to restore for the HHD, compared to CD or DVD (about 31/2 to 4 mins to restore my main partition on my primary drive - roughly 10GB uncompressed, the image file is roughly 4GB using normal compression)), but I also do burn those images to disc as backups for storage. (And as extra security I have two copies of my baseline image - just incase the unthinkable happens). Acronis has a bunch of nice features, such as setting the file split size manually, a few choices of compression levels, password protected image files, the ability to write a summary of the image.

All in all, as a former Ghost user, in didn't know what I was missing. True Image is worth every penny, it's one of the best software purchases I've ever made. Give it a whirl, you won't be disappointed. ;)

Steve

rdsu
June 20th, 2005, 07:52 PM
-{ Quote: "VaMPiRiC_CRoW,
Sorry, but that doesn't make me any smarter and doesn't answer my question :)" }-
ErikAlbert, I answered the author of the Topic ;)

ErikAlbert
June 20th, 2005, 09:15 PM
@Dog,
Thanks alot, I know enough now and I will think about it.

@VaMPiRiC_CRoW
Sorry for misunderstanding.
English makes me alot slower and lesser smart LOL.

rdsu
June 20th, 2005, 09:36 PM
-{ Quote: "@VaMPiRiC_CRoW
Sorry for misunderstanding.
English makes me alot slower and lesser smart LOL." }-
No problem... :)

mercurie
June 20th, 2005, 10:14 PM
Ghost 2003 to a Iomega External HD on the old Compaq.

Dantz or what ever that program that came with my Maxtor One-touch is called for my Emachine :-\

Both seem to work just fine. I favor Ghost slightly more. ??? Don't know why?

digibits
June 21st, 2005, 11:42 PM
Acronis True Image

zorro zorrito
July 29th, 2005, 05:12 AM
I use FarStone DriveClone 1 and it is excelente and the easyest one I know, only 5 steps to have the copy of partition or the whole drive.

Atomic_Ed
August 12th, 2005, 07:26 PM
I have used Ghost and the others for many years off and on but I have to say IMO Acronis True Image 8 is the best out there and most reliable. I have had many first hand encounters where even drive to drive Ghost images wouldn't even boot or were simply corrupted after imaging and yet the same process on the same drives using Acronis TI8 yielded a perfect working copy! I have also purchased and used their TI8 Enterprise Server and it works fantastic as well even on RAID arrays. I am 100% sold on Acronis and have stopped using Ghost altogether now.

Omicron
August 13th, 2005, 07:02 AM
Acronis true IMage

FlashMe
August 16th, 2005, 10:08 PM
Put it all on a mega gig flash drive.

richrf
August 17th, 2005, 12:19 AM
The most straightforward one I found was Image For DOS (Terabyte Unlimited). Boots and runs under DOS. Very simple, effective, and reliable. $20.

Rich

WSFuser
August 17th, 2005, 01:07 AM
acronis true image.

zorro zorrito
August 17th, 2005, 02:55 AM
-{ Quote: "The most straightforward one I found was Image For DOS (Terabyte Unlimited). Boots and runs under DOS. Very simple, effective, and reliable. $20.

Rich" }-

As Rich say, Image for Dos is a great program, in fact in this momento I am using a copy made with this program, even there´s a program that not only makes images but create, delete, move partitions and other things, and it is from the same author, the name is BootIt NG, very great program indeed. To make partitions they are as good and easy as FarStone DriveClone 1.0. "The first copy you make, the first copy you use with them". I saw there is an offer, they give Image for Dos, BootIt NG and Image for Windows for less than 50 bucks. This is not spam eh!!!.

Close_Hauled
August 17th, 2005, 11:51 AM
I have been using the Enterprise Edition of Ghost for years. I would even spend the extra money to buy it for home use. It is amazingly fast for backups and restores over the network. It is quite versatile.

The new version is called Symantec Ghost™ Solution Suite. I have not used it yet, but it has some added features that really make deployment easy.

myluvnttl
September 12th, 2005, 12:22 PM
I used Acronis True Image Enterprised Server which cost me and my company 1,025 dollars, but they also have the workstation version for less like 50 dollars or so...Love that program!!!!

Damien M3
September 12th, 2005, 04:28 PM
Well im going to have to register here this site is awsome!

I have always used ghost but... it is a pain to use over a network... You have to boot both by the floppy and the try to make them talk while hoping you used the right packet driver!

True Image has a nice gui you can boot to and will write a image to a booted windows machine! Reason I found all this out was I bought a new laptop and ghost does not like to provide a driver for a usb drive and network at same time.

Making backups for my machines is easy with ghost as long as yhou have a second HDD. But forget over a network to much hasle! True Image works perfect over a network! Just remeber to share a folder to write to!

myluvnttl
September 13th, 2005, 11:57 AM
Yeah True Image is the way to go, simple and fast, NOT like Ghost!!! and the image can be password protected and you can have a "protected hidding partition" to back your image up to.

SlamDunker
September 17th, 2005, 09:48 PM
Snapshot backup software?

"Double Image-O" is snapshot backup software.

See the site (http://www.hostinterface.com)