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mantra
February 6th, 2005, 09:05 AM
Hi mates
for u who is the best av?
rdsu
February 6th, 2005, 09:27 AM
Hi mantra,
For me, the avast! is much better than AVG...
Better detection, support, features, resources, configuration...
But it's better try them and see what it's best for you and your system... ;)
Regards
Firecat
February 6th, 2005, 09:32 AM
mantra,
I also agree, avast! is far better than avg with better detection, support and e-mail scanner....
You might as well try both out. If AVG seems better, use it and back it up with a free On-Demand scanner such as BitDefender Free 7.2
Regards,
Firecat
TAP
February 6th, 2005, 09:44 AM
When avast! has released its beta 4.6 with many useful features and plus some good-optimized aspect, so I must say that for me avast! is far better and better than AVG.
For me, even avast! Home Edition (free) is better than some paid AVs. :)
rdsu
February 6th, 2005, 09:48 AM
Yep TAP, the new avast! incoming version will be a good improvement in majors aspects... ;)
Ianb
February 6th, 2005, 10:24 AM
I love Avast but they do not tend to do well on Jotti whenever I submit something. I still prefer it to AVG though.
The surprise for me (in the free market) has been AntiVir who's detection rates seem to be getting better and better. We will see if the upcoming avcomp tests confirm this.
If I had to go FREE I would have AntiVir & Avast together with Bit defender FREE as a back up on demand scanner.
mercurie
February 6th, 2005, 02:17 PM
{QUOTE-> mantra,
I also agree, avast! is far better than avg with better detection, support and e-mail scanner....
You might as well try both out. If AVG seems better, use it and back it up with a free On-Demand scanner such as BitDefender Free 7.2
Regards,
Firecat <-QUOTE}Avast clearly is winning here. I do not use or have never used Avast. I am watching this 4.6 and will wait for opinions when it comes out. Earlier I think in the beta didn't it have a now fixed problem with Out Post FW which I use. Maybe some one can confirm this. Any way I quote Firecat because he stated exactly what I do. AVG FE primary resident scanning all files, with BitDefender Free doing a weekly on demand scan. That's my current set up on my compaq machine. :) Sorry do not know "best".
FastGame
February 6th, 2005, 03:36 PM
I've used both and think Avast! is the best of the two by far.
Try both for yourself :)
bigc73542
February 6th, 2005, 03:48 PM
I will throw in my three cents worth also and give Avast my vote.
bigc
JimF
February 6th, 2005, 05:27 PM
I have both on two different PCs. Avast! appears to be better, especially with the new Web Shield in the Beta version. It updates virus definitions with no server problems that are sometimes encountered on AVG. Having said that, I think AVG7 has come a long way and is very nice too. How they really do in real-world tests I have to leave to the experts. I run Win2K/XP in limited user accounts, and have never gotten a virus, trojan, worm, etc. in all my 10 years on the Internet, so it is somewhat theoretical for me.
mercurie
February 6th, 2005, 05:55 PM
{QUOTE-> I have both on two different PCs. Avast! appears to be better, especially with the new Web Shield in the Beta version. It updates virus definitions with no server problems that are sometimes encountered on AVG. Having said that, I think AVG7 has come a long way and is very nice too. How they really do in real-world tests I have to leave to the experts. I run Win2K/XP in limited user accounts, and have never gotten a virus, trojan, worm, etc. in all my 10 years on the Internet, so it is somewhat theoretical for me. <-QUOTE}Very Good Track Record....it certainly says something about your surfing habits as well. ;)
TAP
February 6th, 2005, 11:29 PM
{QUOTE-> I love Avast but they do not tend to do well on Jotti whenever I submit something. I still prefer it to AVG though.
The surprise for me (in the free market) has been AntiVir who's detection rates seem to be getting better and better. We will see if the upcoming avcomp tests confirm this.
If I had to go FREE I would have AntiVir & Avast together with Bit defender FREE as a back up on demand scanner. <-QUOTE}
I think that's because avast! tends to deliberately ignore most (if not all) common spyware/adware and for some malware if they tend to benign or have no significant sign that they really are circulating in the real world so avast! ignores them. But I believe ALWIL team really knows what they do for their users, they want to emphasize to what really causes danger to users. IMHO
For example, P2P-Worm.Win32.Delf.ad that rarely circulates in the real world it tends to be kind of Zoo malware.
I sent this P2P-Worm sample to AVG and avast! lab long time ago (before December 2004, I think) AVG detects this worm about 17-18 January 2005 but avast! still doesn't include this worm into its database.
But when Web Shield has implemented in beta 4.6 so I hardly believe that avast! will be greatly improved at spyware/adware detection.
Ianb
February 7th, 2005, 05:29 AM
{QUOTE-> I think that's because avast! tends to deliberately ignore most (if not all) common spyware/adware and for some malware if they tend to benign or have no significant sign that they really are circulating in the real world so avast! ignores them. But I believe ALWIL team really knows what they do for their users, they want to emphasize to what really causes danger to users. IMHO
For example, P2P-Worm.Win32.Delf.ad that rarely circulates in the real world it tends to be kind of Zoo malware. <-QUOTE}
It's a kazza P2P worm - so for me it is in the wild.
{QUOTE-> I sent this P2P-Worm sample to AVG and avast! lab long time ago (before December 2004, I think) AVG detects this worm about 17-18 January 2005 but avast! still doesn't include this worm into its database.
<-QUOTE}
Thats a poor show from Avast. >:(
Slovak
February 7th, 2005, 05:32 AM
I have used both myself, and really don't have a problem with either, but I keep coming back to Avast, so Avast gets my vote.
RejZoR
February 7th, 2005, 06:16 AM
Anyone who still use Kazaa or any its derivates in these days is sorry to say a moron.
Kazaa is nothing else than concentrated place of worms and trojans.
And data that should be usable is just a corrupted garbage (manly due to Kazaa's poor hashing methods and lack of corruption prevention algorithms).
It's really hard to get P2P worm except if you're looking for brand new pirated game with download filesize of 513KB ::)
Ianb
February 7th, 2005, 06:50 AM
That's no reason for them not to detect it.
RejZoR
February 7th, 2005, 07:21 AM
But it is the reason to put it in the last priority place...
mantra
February 7th, 2005, 11:52 AM
umm thanks
really
but by way compare avast and nod32 ,is impossible??
is so good nod32?
rdsu
February 7th, 2005, 12:00 PM
{QUOTE-> umm thanks
really
but by way compare avast and nod32 ,is impossible??
is so good nod32? <-QUOTE}
The NOD32 have the best heuristics on the market and use less resources than avast!.
RejZoR
February 7th, 2005, 12:09 PM
It's pretty much clear about heuristics which are superior in NOD32,but we could say one or two about resources. With new avast! 4.6 beta resources are much lower than with NOD32. AT least on my rig.
Ianb
February 7th, 2005, 12:21 PM
{QUOTE-> but by way compare avast and nod32 ,is impossible??
is so good nod32? <-QUOTE}
This thread has plenty of links to compare AVs (detection).
http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=65072
shlink
February 7th, 2005, 07:12 PM
Easy answer..................Avast.
TAP
February 7th, 2005, 09:28 PM
There're almost no differences between avast! beta 4.6, AVG 7 and NOD32 when it comes to delay or slowdown in real-time scanning on my laptop, avast! beta 4.6 is probably faster than ever before.
Mr2cents
February 7th, 2005, 09:53 PM
Another vote for avast! Live update works very good. And the updates are small.
RejZoR
February 8th, 2005, 02:52 AM
Live update is Norton's update mechanism :P
avast! uses its own (better) iAVS mechanism :P
mantra
February 8th, 2005, 03:51 AM
{QUOTE-> It's pretty much clear about heuristics which are superior in NOD32,but we could say one or two about resources. With new avast! 4.6 beta resources are much lower than with NOD32. AT least on my rig. <-QUOTE}
HI REJZOR can u tell me about resources of the new avast??
are u talking about ram?
how lower then nod32?
can u be more accurate
Slovak
February 8th, 2005, 05:26 AM
{QUOTE-> HI REJZOR can u tell me about resources of the new avast??
are u talking about ram?
how lower then nod32?
can u be more accurate <-QUOTE}
He is talking about the amount of ram it now uses, it is much less, not quite as low as NOD32, but low enough for me.
rdsu
February 8th, 2005, 07:33 AM
{QUOTE-> He is talking about the amount of ram it now uses, it is much less, not quite as low as NOD32, but low enough for me. <-QUOTE}
Same here... :)
wildman
February 9th, 2005, 10:35 PM
??? Is the avast beta placing it's operating files in the program section, or is it still placing them in the temp section?
I have just today installed another memory board, and may give avast a try again, but really would like it if the operating files were not in the temp section.
Thanks
wildman
;D ;)
TAP
February 9th, 2005, 11:06 PM
avast! Web Shield used to generate a lot of temp files (about 12 MB on my machine) but after upgrading to latest 4.6 beta this problem was already fixed, temp files no longer there. avast! getting better and better. :)
lynchknot
February 9th, 2005, 11:23 PM
{QUOTE-> It's pretty much clear about heuristics which are superior in NOD32,but we could say one or two about resources. With new avast! 4.6 beta resources are much lower than with NOD32. <-QUOTE}I use Avast and NOD32 as resident without conflict. Why? I dunno, because I can I suppose. NOD32 should be enough but I like Avast - I have my cake and ice cream.
RejZoR
February 10th, 2005, 02:44 AM
Wildman,TEMP dir is meant for temp files. So if this feature is there why program shouldn't use it? They reduce these temp files,but some simply must be there for avast to operate correctly. All programs use it,why avast! shouldn't?
mantra
February 10th, 2005, 06:14 AM
what is it webshield?
RejZoR
February 10th, 2005, 07:27 AM
Web Shield is a similar function to NOD32 IMON. It's checking all HTTP traffic in real-time including archives and their content.
wildman
February 10th, 2005, 12:56 PM
{QUOTE-> Wildman,TEMP dir is meant for temp files. So if this feature is there why program shouldn't use it? They reduce these temp files,but some simply must be there for avast to operate correctly. All programs use it,why avast! shouldn't? <-QUOTE}
;D Because that directory is for the use of all kinds of temp files and not just avast's. The owner of the machine should have the ability to delete all the files in this directory if he/she desires. As you know this has not been the case with avast in the past. If there are required files for avast to function they should be in the avast program directory.
Thanks
wildman
:) ;) :P
Michael_aust
February 12th, 2005, 05:37 PM
Does Avast have a real time monitor thing like AVG or is purly on demand? Also does Avast scan emails like AVG? If so is it compatible with Mozilla Thunderbird?
Michael
vlk
February 12th, 2005, 06:01 PM
Yes of course (answers to all your questions are positive). :)
quexx88
February 12th, 2005, 07:03 PM
I prefer AVG 7. It has simply performed better on my system than avast!, although both are high quality AVs. Just go with whichever one plays best on your machine.
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