Which Free ZA Version?

[Need Protection]

What ZoneAlarm free version is the best? I've heard the early versions are just as reliable, work just as well and do so with less resources and bugs. Will version 2.6, 3.7 or 4.5 be a good choice? Will these protect me as well as the latest ones?

[crockett]

Hi ;)

I'm on XPSP1; I continually switch from OutpostPro(374.370) to ZoneAlarmFree 2.6.357 just for the fun of it. Very different FW's, but never had any problem whatsoever with this version of ZA...

I like its simplicity and low CPU usage. Newer versions I never grew to like as much as that one.

No problem to survive the Exploits test on PCFlank, and get a perfect stealth on GRC

http://www.pcflank.com/exploits.htm

https://www.grc.com/x/ne.dll?bh0bkyd2

Rgds, Crockett 8)

[Jimbob1989]

Why use Zone Alarm? just out of interest.

Jimbob

[INTOXSICKATED]

i have always liked, and been a big fan, of 4.5. never had any problems with zonealarm until version 5 came out. i wouldn't hesitate to recommend 4.5.

[~*Nat*~]

-{ Quote: "i have always liked, and been a big fan, of 4.5. never had any problems with zonealarm until version 5 came out. i wouldn't hesitate to recommend 4.5." }-

Hi INTOXSICKATED,

I'm curious to know what kinds of problems you've encountered with v. 5,
and why you think that 4.5 is better ?

I've been using ZA (free) for a few years now, and even with v.5 don't seem to have problems with it.

Please tell me your opinion...It would be greatly appreciated.

Thank You ! :)


EDIT: Isn't there a reason why we should always upgrade to the newest build ~ security wise ? Whenever ZA updates, which is unfortunately not very often, it always says something like "Security update".
Hmmm...just wondering.

[INTOXSICKATED]

my only problem with versions 5 and up were that they made my system run a little sluggish. it also didn't work well with yahoo messenger. i had all kinds of problems trying to configure za to work well with messenger after upgrading past version 4.5. i know others didn't have the same problems i had, but allot did. i have many posts in the za forums about trying to get the 2 to work together without having log-off problems. since i spend allot of time in chat, this was a big issue for me. after getting rid of za, i was amazed at just how much better everything on my computer seemed to run.

i will admit, i didn't use the free version of za however. i was using zass, and i never felt secure or safe behind their anti-virus protection. i've switched to sygate and nod32 in za's place and never looked back.

on an odd note, i ended-up dumping yahoo messenger for yahelite as well. if i never had the problems with yahoo messenger in the first place, i would probably still be using za today (since i did pay for it).

[INTOXSICKATED]

i should add that i spent allot of time in the za forums, and it wasn't until the latest version came out on dec, 2nd, that even the za "gurus" themselves started advising people to finally upgrade past 4.5.

[~*Nat*~]

~INTOXSICKATED~: Those problems you've been having I find rather odd.

ZA is actually very easy, one of the reasons I use it. All one has to do is
either 'allow' or 'disallow', when an alert pops up. And thats all to it.

Even with my YAHOO! messenger, smooth and easy...and I notice no slow down
of my puter.

But who knows. Are you perhaps on an older computer...?...maybe that's why
all those troubles ? :-\

But it's a known fact that some applications work for some..and others don't. We just have to accept that , won't we ? :)
So, if you're happy with what you've got now...go for it, and I'm happy for you !


Thank's for the reply.

P.S. Oh, and yeah, if you used the zass, instead of the free v. I suppose there could be a bit more tinkering and probs involved.

[INTOXSICKATED]

za is definately the easiest to configure, i agree with that. thats what drove me crazy about the messenger problems! anyways, i have a 3.2 ghz p4 sony computer, so it's not that old. i've tweaked the hell out of it tho, so maybe my problems were somewhere in all my tweaking.

my main problems in yahoo messenger were in the chat rooms after 10-15 minutes of use. if i never went into a chat room, i never had a problem. now that i think of it, maybe the bots were booting me? hmmmm......i still think za is a resource hog. it wasn't until i started using different firewalls that i realized this. i need another drink.

[~*Nat*~]

-{ Quote: "za is definately the easiest to configure, i agree with that. thats what drove me crazy about the messenger problems! anyways, i have a 3.2 ghz p4 sony computer, so it's not that old. i've tweaked the hell out of it tho, so maybe my problems were somewhere in all my tweaking.

my main problems in yahoo messenger were in the chat rooms after 10-15 minutes of use. if i never went into a chat room, i never had a problem. now that i think of it, maybe the bots were booting me? hmmmm......i still think za is a resource hog. it wasn't until i started using different firewalls that i realized this. i need another drink." }-


Oh yes, tweaking can be made to actually 'mess something' up.
I have experience in this...::)

And being in those chat rooms is a pain sometimes.
I'm almost positive those bots there, were having their 'fun' with you.....and thousands of other people.
Especially when you go in overcrowded rooms with 'idiots' playing around.
And you can be as nice as can be...they have no pardon for you.

I've heard there are some programs that can prevent being booted, but since I rarely go in chat rooms, i forgot where I found it.


~cheers~ ;D

[mercurie]

-{ Quote: "i have always liked, and been a big fan, of 4.5. never had any problems with zonealarm until version 5 came out. i wouldn't hesitate to recommend 4.5." }-Me too. I am not using any ZA product at the moment. But I still have a warm spot in my heart for the oldie but goodie versions. :) First Firewall first love..... just me I guess..... :D

[snowbound]

I,ve stuck with ZA+ 4.5 and have no intention of ever upgrading even though it is obsolete now. ;)

It serves me well as it is. :)



snowbound

[~*Nat*~]

-{ Quote: "I,ve stuck with ZA+ 4.5 and have no intentions of ever upgrading even though it is obsolete now. ;)

It serves me well as it is. :)



snowbound" }-


snowbound...if you or anyone never upgrades to the newest version, wouldn't that compromise security ?

Whenever there IS an upgrade, which is not often as I've mentioned already,
the message says it's for a 'Security' upgrade - better detection or something to that.

Just curious why you wouldn't want to 'stay on track' so to say.....?

[snowbound]

-{ Quote: "snowbound...if you or anyone never upgrades to the newest version, wouldn't that compromise security ?

Whenever there IS an upgrade, which is not often as I've mentioned already,
the message says it's for a 'Security' upgrade - better detection or something to that.

Just curious why you wouldn't want to 'stay on track' so to say.....?" }-

Until i have a security breach, it will stay as is because i don't want any of the problems associated with the newer versions, plus bells and whistles i don't need that are covered by my other security apps. If it fails me someday i will simply move on to a new Firewall.




snowbound

[~*Nat*~]

OK snowbound, good enough reason, I suppose. :)

Although the free version really doesn't come with any bells and whistles.
I wish it did.
Just simply to block the basics and that's it.

[INTOXSICKATED]

besides, maybe it's just me, but the only thing new about za since 4.5 is the ability for windows security center to recognize za. (which i have disabled anyway). and i forgot the part where za now tells u if ur antivirus is running and up to date. but, do u really need za to tell you if your antivirus is up to date? i never had a problem running za with sp2. and if u look at za release history, most fixes since 4.5 have been done due to what they screwed up since the 5.0 release fiasco. hope this makes sense, i am a drunk you know!

[snowbound]

-{ Quote: "OK snowbound, good enough reason, I suppose. :)

Although the free version really doesn't come with any bells and whistles.
I wish it did.
Just simply to block the basics and that's it." }-

It's a pity they discontinued the + version....

It allows u to write your own rules along with a few other options, without all that other unnecessary junk added in the later versions.



snowbound

[~*Nat*~]

-{ Quote: "It's a pity they discontinued the + version....

It allows u to write your own rules along with a few other options, without all that other unnecessary junk added in the later versions.



snowbound" }-

I actually loved the ZA Pro I had at one time. It had options that in my opinion added more to security - in general I found it much better.
But after the liscence ran out, I just went back to Basic.

(What is it exactly you perceive as 'junk', snowbound ? )

[~*Nat*~]

-{ Quote: " za now tells u if ur antivirus is running and up to date." }-

Only with the comercial Anti-virus scanners.
When I got rid of norton, and added AVAST, it warned me I had no virus protection installed. Hahaha.

[INTOXSICKATED]

nat:
just out of curiosity, but did u have 4.5 pro before ur lisence ran out? u can always revert back to the last paid version u used. i would sure as hell rather have 4.5 pro than any free release since! ;D

[~*Nat*~]

-{ Quote: "nat:
just out of curiosity, but did u have 4.5 pro before ur lisence ran out? u can always revert back to the last paid version u used. i would sure as hell rather have 4.5 pro than any free release since! ;D" }-

To be honest with you, I really don't remember.
I had the PRO version..oh...maybe 2 years ago ??
I wouldn't know how to go about it.....:-\

[Bubba]

-{ Quote: "I,ve stuck with ZA+ 4.5 and have no intention of ever upgrading even though it is obsolete now." }-Obsolete....heck I reckon my 2.6.362 would be a dinosaur then 8)

[Kerodo]

That's the best one... ;)

[crockett]

-{ Quote: "Obsolete....heck I reckon my 2.6.362 would be a dinosaur then 8)" }-
Hi ;)
See below, and feel the pain :D
-{ Quote: "That's the best one... ;)" }-
Hello :)
Please tell me what makes you think so... I'm serious, I'd like to know.

Rgds, Crockett 8)

[Kerodo]

-{ Quote: "Hi ;)

Hello :)
Please tell me what makes you think so... I'm serious, I'd like to know.

Rgds, Crockett 8)" }-

I guess the main reason I like 2.6 is because it has absolutely no unnecessary "features". Just the bare bones stateful firewall with some app control. Very light, and gets the job done. I alternate between 2.6 Pro and ZA Plus 4.0. Right now it's ZA Plus 4.0. Both are great though... :)

[Cant tell]

-{ Quote: "I alternate between 2.6 Pro and ZA Plus 4.0. Right now it's ZA Plus 4.0. Both are great though... :)" }-
Hi guys

I thought we were talking about free versions?!
What are the important Pro options of ZA 2.6 vs FreeZA 2.6?
Is Pro free and Plus not free?
I'm getting lost with those different labels...

[snowbound]

-{ Quote: "Hi guys

I thought we were talking about free versions?!
What are the important Pro options of ZA 2.6 vs FreeZA 2.6?
Is Pro free and Plus not free?
I'm getting lost with those different labels..." }-


Though i do not know the diffrences between the old Pro and free versions u mentioned, i do know Pro has never been free and neither was Plus but it has been discontinued now so.......


snowbound

[mercurie]

-{ Quote: "I,ve stuck with ZA+ 4.5 and have no intention of ever upgrading even though it is obsolete now. ;)

It serves me well as it is. :)



snowbound" }-Good for you ...smart move imho. ;)

[Kerodo]

-{ Quote: "Hi guys

I thought we were talking about free versions?!
What are the important Pro options of ZA 2.6 vs FreeZA 2.6?
Is Pro free and Plus not free?
I'm getting lost with those different labels..." }-

Both Pro and Plus are pay for it firewalls. Neither is free. Plus has been discontinued also. In general you just get more configurability and options with those than you do with the free version. I don't have any free versions so I can't give you a list of the differences, but you can always find an old 2.6 Pro and install it for 30 days and try it. I use it because it works with my old Pro key, and I use Plus 4.0 because it works with my current ZA key. :)

[INTOXSICKATED]

if zone alarm is what u really want, then u might as well start off with the latest free version and see how it works for you. most bugs have been worked out and the problems most people are having now are configuration problems. if it doesn't work for you, downgrade or try another free firewall. i dunno if you ever used za before, but u might as well start at the top.