Spybot 1.4 beta 2

[10spot]

Anyone tried it yet? http://www.softpedia.com/get/Internet/Popup-Ad-Spyware-Blockers/SpyBotSearch-Destroy.shtml

[rdsu]

Yes ;)

I use it without any problem...

[Blackspear]

No problem here as well.

Cheers ;D

[bigc73542]

I have had it since it has been available and all is well so far. actually it might scan faster in this version.

bigc

[chachazz]

Same here; no problems ;)

[10spot]

Thanks for the positive comments on Spybot. I think i'll give it a go. Was still using 1.3.

[Jimbob1989]

If you don't want to download it off the internet and risk downloading malware, there is another way to get this beta version. If you set spybot to advanced mode and go into the settings page, you can enable spybot to search for new beta versions as well as definition updates.

Jimbob

[dog]

Just adding an Attachment as a Visual to JB's Post above. ;)

[Jimbob1989]

-{ Quote: "Just adding an Attachment as a Visual to JB's Post above. ;)" }-

Thats alright Steve, I had no idea how to do it before you told me ;)

Jimbob

[dog]

My Pleasure. ;)

[zarzenz]

I just tried the update of the beta 1.4 version using the method described above and it went really well. I liked the way it then automatically installed itself using those clever little DOS boxes to activate the program over the old 1.3 version... very nice indeed and worked like a charm.

However... I now have a problem... not a serious one, but it's a bit annoying.

When I start the program, it now opens up in the settings window. I used to have 1.3 open in the check problems window (the obvious place) and would like this still to happen. Is there a way to rectify this bug, if that's what it is, as I can't see any reason for anyone wishing to keep needing to see saved settings every time the program starts. Once a user has decided the best settings, that should be it... a once only action.

Any ideas... or is this a price one has to pay for beta.

[Jimbob1989]

-{ Quote: "When I start the program, it now opens up in the settings window. I used to have 1.3 open in the check problems window (the obvious place) and would like this still to happen. Is there a way to rectify this bug, if that's what it is, as I can't see any reason for anyone wishing to keep needing to see saved settings every time the program starts. Once a user has decided the best settings, that should be it... a once only action.

Any ideas... or is this a price one has to pay for beta." }-

I just checked and it looks like spybot just remembers the last page or section you looked at. Just click on search and destroy on the left hand side of the window.

Jimbob

[zarzenz]

Hi Jimbob,

Yeah... just tried this. But what I mean is, if I run a check using the search and destroy window... and then close the program... the next time I start it... it opens up in settings again. Version 1.3 never did this.

Now maybe I need to see if there is a setting to save the last page... I'll have a look, as from the sound of it... your's remembers the last, which is what I want mine to do.

[bigbuck]

Hi Zarzenz, It doesn't sound right. My 1.3 defaults to the main page on opening regardless of what was open before. Ie. I just used the shredder and closed it, then reopened and got the main page. I cant find a setting related to your prob. Sorry,
Buck.

[zarzenz]

Hi bigbuck,

My 1.3 was also working ok. No... it's the 1.4 that has the problem here.

Have you also got 1.4 to check this out... but Jimbob's seems to be fine.

I may have a bad install here.

[dog]

No I believe it's a small little glitch ... My GUI opens to settings too. ~It's no issue really~ :)

I don't know if starting in Default mode ... has the same effect. But starting in advance mode opens the GUI to the settings menu.

Steve

[bigbuck]

-{ Quote: "Hi bigbuck,

My 1.3 was also working ok. No... it's the 1.4 that has the problem here.

Have you also got 1.4 to check this out... but Jimbob's seems to be fine.

I may have a bad install here." }-I've DL'd 1.4 beta2 but haven't installed yet. I like to check out how these beta's work for others first. I would probably uninstall 1.3 first though. I'm not sure that JB is on the beta version?
Brad.

[Jimbob1989]

-{ Quote: "I'm not sure that JB is on the beta version?
Brad." }-

Yep, I am.

Jimbob

[zarzenz]

Thanks dog,

Ah... that's good to know. Yes, I always use advanced and guess what... you are spot on. I just did a little test and switched to the default mode, and it opened correctly, just like 1.3 used to... on the window with the option to check for problems or check for updates.

Now I know this is a glitch... I'm happy... cheers.

[Jimbob1989]

-{ Quote: "Thanks dog,

Ah... that's good to know. Yes, I always use advanced and guess what... you are spot on. I just did a little test and switched to the default mode, and it opened correctly, just like 1.3 used to... on the window with the option to check for problems or check for updates.

Now I know this is a glitch... I'm happy... cheers." }-

Ah, I understand. Guess we know for future reference incase it happens to anyone else.

Jimbob

[zarzenz]

-{ Quote: "I've DL'd 1.4 beta2 but haven't installed yet. I like to check out how these beta's work for others first. I would probably uninstall 1.3 first though. I'm not sure that JB is on the beta version?
Brad." }-

I did the download via the built in update check as was described so well above by Jimbob and dog. It auto installed... was so good and easy.

[Bubba]

-{ Quote: "I liked the way it then automatically installed itself using those clever little DOS boxes to activate the program over the old 1.3 version" }-If you use or might consider using the TeaTimer feature....you needed to have downloaded the full installation and not over-write the 1.3 version.... because the integrated update does not contain the updated Teatimer.

[scott lang]

i have had the 1.4 beta for awhile and until yesterday it was set to advanced mode and always came up to the home page when loaded. then there was a update, a slew of stuff the other day. i ran them and now i have the settings page come up instead. tried the default mode and now its right again. thought maybe it was just a bad update or something.

[zarzenz]

-{ Quote: "If you use or might consider using the TeaTimer feature....you needed to have downloaded the full installation and not over-write the 1.3 version.... because the integrated update does not contain the updated Teatimer." }-

Bubba,

I am using the TeaTimer resident and have it set to auto start on computer boot up. I also did the over-write install as above, and it's still working, with the lock icon auto starting in the systray as before and I've tested it by doing a disable of one of my startups, and it still warns me of the change.

So, could it be that the over-write has now been updated to keep TeaTimer active... as mine surely is... as I didn't do the full install.

Anyway... all seems to be working fine, so I'll probably just keep it like this now and wait for 1.4 to be made final, with maybe the settings bug fixed.

[Bubba]

-{ Quote: "So, could it be that the over-write has now been updated to keep TeaTimer active... as mine surely is... as I didn't do the full install.
" }-What I said above was...."the integrated update does not contain the updated Teatimer"....nothing about TeaTimer was going to be Active or De-Active. In essence....you still have the TeaTimer file dated May 12, 2004....instead of the updated TeaTimer file dated Dec. 6, 2004.

[Antarctica]

I've been using 1.4Beta 2 for a couple of days now and I have another strange problem with "default and advance Mode".
I did a clean install, reboot and check advance mode. Now every time when I open Spybot, it's back to default. :o

[spy1]

Antarctica - Is it check-marked in all three places the same? I believe I had the same problem once a long time ago until I got them all synchronized. Pete

[Antarctica]

Spy1-Yes they are checked in all three places...

[zarzenz]

-{ Quote: "What I said above was...."the integrated update does not contain the updated Teatimer"....nothing about TeaTimer was going to be Active or De-Active. In essence....you still have the TeaTimer file dated May 12, 2004....instead of the updated TeaTimer file dated Dec. 6, 2004." }-

Hi Bubba,

Yes... understood now... I see what you mean, my TeaTimer will still be working but with the old program files that installed with 1.3, and if I wish to get the very latest version of TeaTimer then I need to download a fresh full beta install.

I wonder if there is much need to do this considering that the TeaTimer fuction appears to be doing what it needs to do with the older version.

I guess maybe as 1.4 is still in beta then it wasn't considered important to intergrate the newer TeaTimer into the over-write of 1.3 as possibly there is very little, if any difference to the function. But when the 1.4 full install files were written, then a newer version was done the same time as a matter of course to ensure the beta had a working TeaTimer for new users not currently using any previous version of Spybot.

What I'll probably do for now is keep using this setup with the beta/old TeaTimer files as all seems fine.

I'm thinking this way of updating the previous 1.3 with the over-write version was probably fully intended to be this way, maybe to keep the update files as small as possible, whilst still maintaining a fully functioning TeaTimer application, and therefore all is still good.

However, if this was an oversight, and if you know of a good reason why the later beta TeaTimer should be used, then I may consider getting the full download.

Many thanks for clarifying this for me.

[Bubba]

-{ Quote: "I wonder if there is much need to do this considering that the TeaTimer fuction appears to be doing what it needs to do with the older version." }-The older TeaTimer is very adequate....but some users might find the features in the newer TeaTimer of benefit now. Take for instance one of the many reg entries TeaTimer monitors for change....Current_User Home page. In the older version there were many times where a user would be alerted of that change and select Ok to allow and also check the box to permanently retain that change. Then they would scamper around posting questions about I can't find where I changed that....what do I do. The helpers would explain about the black\white list file and where to find it to edit the file.

In the newer version....this is improved upon as noted in the pic below:

When a user attempts to change their Home page....TeaTimer alerts them(1.)....they can choose to Remember this decision(1 a) and then Ok. TeaTimer then slides up a balloon info(2.) for a few seconds in the systray area notifying them of this change. If later on the user wishes to view the Registry\Process entries Allowed or Blocked....they can right click the TeaTimer systray icon....select Settings(3.) and then see which items they have Allowed\Blocked(4.). They can also delete any items if they wish(4 a).

That is just one of the changes....and whether any of the above causes users to switch now is understandbly their choice. The Full 1.4 version will IMHO be available before Feb is up considering the Beta is going reallll well with the Beta testers and other feedback....but....don't quote me on that 8)


-{ Quote: "I guess maybe as 1.4 is still in beta then it wasn't considered important to intergrate the newer TeaTimer into the over-write of 1.3 as possibly there is very little, if any difference to the function." }-It wasn't a question of being important....it had to do more with a rumor or fact that the newer TeaTimer was compiled (http://forums.net-integration.net/index.php?showtopic=23143&st=0&#) with the newer Delphi Compiler....which would not fit well in the 1.3 version.

[zarzenz]

Thank you Bubba.

That is an excellent detailed description of the new features to be found in the updated TeaTimer. In fact... I would possibly now consider getting the full beta 1.4 installed to enable these improvements to be enjoyed from this time.

I think I remember reading something about the remember change in the old version being an issue, so any bug fixes are always to be welcomed in any application.

I appreciate that the time scale for the beta to be released is not confimed yet and would possibly be happy to wait a week or two to see if it does appear. On the other hand for a few moments download and install time, I may well be tempted to give it a try... I'll consider this later.

Again... many thanks... the screenshots helped very much.

[tallone]

Can anyone tell me the safest place to download the SB beta? I don't think softpedia is the best place, anything direct from the author? Thanks.

[Bubba]

-{ Quote: "Again... many thanks... the screenshots helped very much" }-@ zarzenz
You are very Welcome....good luck 8)

-{ Quote: "Can anyone tell me the safest place to download the SB beta? I don't think softpedia is the best place, anything direct from the author? Thanks." }-@ tallone
The only URL I would recommend at the moment is from the Official Spybot Forums....and in particular the below thread.

This thread---> Changes Towards 1.4, And bugs plus workarounds (http://forums.net-integration.net/index.php?showtopic=25574)

[tallone]

Thanks Bubba, u da man.

[zarzenz]

I decided to give the full version 1.4 B2 a try to get the newer updated TeaTimer working as Bubba described above.

I downloaded the full program and installed it in a new folder without uninstalling the previous intergrated over-write version, but the TeaTimer failed to work... it didn't detect any startup changes at all. So then I uninstalled both versions and started again... even deleting all the other Spybot files in the all users application data folder, and cleaning the registry of all Spybot entries left over.

Then I installed the fresh download again. But still the same result... no TeaTimer detection.

The solution was very simple, and if anyone else finds the same problem, then just do the following.

Open Spybot... go to the Tools section... click on Resident... then uncheck the TeaTimer... and then check it again.

This kicked the application into action with all the new features of the updated version working perfectly, just as Bubba described... very nice.

[Bubba]

-{ Quote: " installed it in a new folder without uninstalling the previous intergrated over-write version, but the TeaTimer failed to work" }-You lucky dude....I'm surprised more didn't go wrong :)

[zarzenz]

Hi Bubba,

Yeah... I think I did very well. I reckon if I had found this little uncheck/check glitch before, then all would have been fine. The second install in a different folder was ok... I guess because it was basically the same version.

Anyway... all working good here now. I like the allow/block lists and the little confirmation window that pops up from the tray... thanks for pointing me to all these extra features.

Also just ran a full scan... all clean... very pleased.

[scott lang]

adding to what i said earlier, after i got those last slew of updates and the default advanced thing happened to me i also could not even run the scan. everytime i tried it just went off the screen and nuttin happened. so i went ahead and uninstalled it and reinstalled the 1.3 ver. updated it immunized and run a scan. and to my surprise it never picked up the dso exploits this time. remember how 1.3 always gave the dso's? and it never has given them to me yet. so for now i will stay with 1.3 till the 1.4 goes alpha.