TDS-3 won't update

[Antarctica]

I saw this morning a update from Gavin with 44547 references that was
available. Mine is still at 44350.
My configuration is set for automatic update but it didn't update. I even tried to update manually with the same result. It always says "Database already up-to-date"
Any idea what's wrong?

[spy1]

I keep trying to get today's update, and this is what the updater in TDS-3 keeps giving me:

09:44:44 Loading Radius Advanced Scanning Systems ... <R3 Engine, DCS Labs>
09:44:56 [Init] • Radius Advanced Specialist Extensions on standby for 13 trojan families
09:44:56 [Init] • Systems Initialised [44350 references - 20484 primaries/11731 traces/12135 variants/other]
09:44:56 [Init] Radius Systems loaded. <Databases updated 14-01-2005>
09:44:57 [Init] TDS-3 Ready. <Spy1@127.0.0.1, [i]<snip> - United States>
09:44:57 [TDS] Good morning Spy1.
09:45:21 [Memory Scan] Memory scan started, please wait a moment ...
09:45:26 [Memory Scan] Memory scan complete.
09:45:26 [Mutex Memory Scan] Started...
09:45:32 [Mutex Memory Scan] Finished (no trojan mutexes found).
09:45:32 [Trace Scan] Started...
09:45:45 [Trace Scan] Finished.
09:45:46 [CRC32] Started - verifying 27 files ...
09:45:48 [CRC32] File doesn't exist: C:\WINDOWS\System32\wsock32.dll
09:45:49 [CRC32] Test finished.
09:45:59 [Radius Update] Database already up-to-date - transfer aborted.
09:46:44 [Radius Update] Database already up-to-date - transfer aborted.

Gavin's update thread says there's supposed to be:

Update for 18-01-2005: +120 references (+117 primaries)

[44547 references - 20677 primaries/11735 traces/12135 variants/other] .

Time to change the update.cfg again? Pete

edited to remove ip - Detox

[Bubba]

Hey Pete,

As you can see....I have merged your thread\post into Antarctica's earlier started thread concerning today's TDS update.

[Pilli]

Hello, I believe that at least one of the download links is giving an old update as I also noticed this.
To correct it I right clicked this link at DCS;s site: http://www.diamondcs.com.au/tds/radius.td3 and dropped into the TDS3 folder, you will find that the correct updates are now shown.
Sometimes this is to do with your ISP's "Transparent" ::) proxy servers that are not correctly updating or maybe the download server(s) did not get correctly updated.

HTH Pilli

[Antarctica]

Thank you Pilli, updated correctly now. :)

[FanJ]

For Pilli: Alan check your IM ;)

[Spray-on Dust]

Hi,

I did what you said to do, Pilli and TDS still won't update correctly.

[Spray-on Dust]

Um, could someone please help me out here? Thank you.

[tempnexus]

Did you use the GIANT (MS ANTI SPYWARE)? and did you find AIMSpy trojan on your system? If so then it might have mis-ID the update.exe in your TDS-3 folder and deleted it.
Cheers,

p.S.
just do a restore on that file (in GIANT, AKA MS anti-spyware) and you should be fine.

[Pilli]

-{ Quote: "I did what you said to do, Pilli and TDS still won't update correctly." }-Did you right click the link and "Save Target As"?
When moved to the TDS3 folder you should have been prompted to replace the original, if this did not occur then you have not got the correct radius file in the correct folder.
After moving the correct file to the TDS3 folder did you "Reload" using the TDS menu item "Reload"?

Pilli

[Antarctica]

Hi Pilli,
Reload, reboot does not change anything, my references stays jam at 44350. yet this morning after the new update from Gavin, it should read 44718. >:(

[Pilli]

Same here Antarctica >:(
Here is my update.cfg file:
;Radius.TD3 Database Update Sites
;See http://tds.diamondcs.com.au/index.php?page=update for latest server list
ftp://ftp.pc-techie.info/tds/radius.td3
http://www.toonbox.de/tds/radius.td3
http://www.zeylstra.nl/tds/radius.td3
http://radius.turvamies.com/radius.td3
http://fractus.mat.uson.mx/~tds/radius.td3
http://www.diamondcs.com.au/tds/radius.td3
http://diamondcs.fileburst.com/radius.td3

Doing the manual update from DCS;s site I get this:
10:45:37 [Init] • Systems Initialised [44718 references - 20844 primaries/11739 traces/12135 variants/other]
10:45:37 [Init] Radius Systems loaded. <Databases updated 19-01-2005>

GAVIN!!! ;D

[spy1]

Is there anyone besides myself who finds it hysterically funny that DCS can't even keep their update servers running right?

I don't have a single other program on my computer that exhibits this kind of behavior (REDUCING your protection through a faulty update mechanism).

It's pathetic, really. Pete

[Pilli]

-{ Quote: "spy1 Is there anyone besides myself who finds it hysterically funny that DCS can't even keep their update servers running right? " }-No mate it's deadly serious.
-{ Quote: "I don't have a single other program on my computer that exhibits this kind of behavior (REDUCING your protection through a faulty update mechanism)." }-Not really as you can manually update if the autoupdater fails and you do know when that occurs.
-{ Quote: "It's pathetic, really. Pete" }- Come on Pete that is not particularly fair, you know that DCS is still one of the most supportive developers out there. ;)

Pilli

[Rainwalker]

-{ Quote: "
Come on Pete that is not particularly fair, you know that DCS is still one of the most supportive developers out there. ;)
Pilli" }-

No offense Pete......but really not fair :-\

[spy1]

-{ Quote: "No mate it's deadly serious.[/UNQUOTE]

I quite agree, Pilli. (That might have been just a touch of sarcasm on my part).

-{ Quote: "Not really as you can manually update if the autoupdater fails and you do know when that occurs.[/UNQUOTE]

And how about when you check for updates by going to Start/Programs/TDS-3/Update Databases after already having previously done a "Manual" update due to this problem?

It'll update without you ever seeing the main interface screen - if it sends you backwards from what you've already got, you won't "see" it unless you think to compare the DB's the next time you do look at the main interface.

-{ Quote: "..you know that DCS is still one of the most supportive developers out there.[/UNQUOTE]

I never said they weren't - but it's not exactly as if this is the very first time this problem has occurred. It happens on a semi-regular basis, actually, and I can't for the life of me figure out why it hasn't been fixed.

At the least, a simple comparison mechanism being put in place within the program would prevent anyone from removing a later DB and replacing it with a previous one.

Of course, that doesn't answer the question as to why the problem itself has never been fixed - and one wonders whether TDS-4 is going to suffer from the same thing. Pete

[frogfoot]

I'm not very impressed at the moment. I manualy downloaded the latest definitions. (44547 references) yesterday. Today I tried the manual update, and I have gone back to 44350.
This problem should have been fixed as soon as it was identified.

[Pilli]

-{ Quote: "Of course, that doesn't answer the question as to why the problem itself has never been fixed - and one wonders whether TDS-4 is going to suffer from the same thing. Pete" }-Yep, It is strange as Wayne spent sometime creating a new method of updating the servers, I am wondering if it is just one particular server. This one: ftp://ftp.pc-techie.info/tds/radius.td3 was top of my list in the update.cfg file and therefore must have been giving the old radius file. DCS manual update was fine on both days.
So if others experiencing this problem are downloading from the same FTP site it could be a problem with their update server not accepting or reverting the new radius file.
We shall have to await DCS for an answer.

Pete, TDS4 will be using a totally different method of updating using incremental updates which will be far more efficient and therefore a lot less troublsome and far quicker to update. :)

Pilli

[Gavin - DiamondCS]

There's nothing we can do about the way the updater works at the moment, but why don't those who want to be sure of updates just put OUR site at the top of their update.cfg :)

The problem with a couple of those servers is out of our control, so removing any which cause you problems might be the simplest "fix"..

I'll fix ftp://ftp.pc-techie.info/tds/radius.td3 manually now

[Pilli]

Thanks Gavin, That does the trick ;D

[spy1]

It didn't here. I'm going to try a re-start after clearing all caches and whatnot to see if that helps. Pete

[spy1]

Didn't help - I guess I'll just keep on updating manually rather than irritate myself with this. If the first server in the list is fixed, it now looks like a case of my ISP having an old cached copy or something.

(Waves white flag - "Stick a fork in me! I'm done!" ). Pete

(And don't worry about my IP address showing - I don't care. Thanks for looking out for me, though). Pete

[Pilli]

Hi Pete, Sorry to read that you are still having problems.
If you open update.cfg try changing it to this.

;Radius.TD3 Database Update Sites
;See http://tds.diamondcs.com.au/index.php?page=update for latest server list
http://www.diamondcs.com.au/tds/radius.td3
http://www.toonbox.de/tds/radius.td3
http://www.zeylstra.nl/tds/radius.td3
ftp://ftp.pc-techie.info/tds/radius.td3
http://radius.turvamies.com/radius.td3
http://fractus.mat.uson.mx/~tds/radius.td3
http://diamondcs.fileburst.com/radius.td3

Then try tomorrow's update :)

[spy1]

That worked "on-the-fly", Pilli. I just c&p'ed it into the update.cfg while I had TDS-3 running, clicked "Yes" to save the changes, checked for updates again and it worked. Thanks.

[Pilli]

You are welcome. Glad it worked :)

[Spray-on Dust]

Hmm. Still doesn't seem to be working. What's going on?

Someone help me please. :) Thank you.

[Pilli]

Hi Spray-on Dust, Sorry I forgot to ask if yours is the full licensed version of TDS3 as if it is the trial then you can only update manually.

Pilli