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[iwod]

Sometimes i wonder how can such Good software lies in such xxxx Website.

If it is professional that why can't they make the website more professional?

[john2g]

The product is excellent: that's all that matters!

[hayc59]

-{ Quote: "Sometimes i wonder how can such Good software lies in such xxxx Website.

If it is professional that why can't they make the website more professional?" }-HUH....? ;)

[bellgamin]

-{ Quote: "HUH....? ;)" }-
Perhaps he is referring to BOC's website at...
http://www.nsclean.com/

As a website, I suppose one might say that BOClean's is *functional* rather than eye-catching. Evidently they give their best efforts to the product rather than the wrapper it comes in.

[hayc59]

:D Thanks Bell!!

[muf]

There is a well known saying that i'm sure you have heard at least a few times. "Never judge a book by it's cover".

muf

[rdsu]

-{ Quote: "The product is excellent: that's all that matters!" }-
This is true, but a good "Image" is also important and attract possible users...

[snowbound]

-{ Quote: "
Evidently they give their best efforts to the product rather than the wrapper it comes in." }-

My sentiments exactly. Flash is just so much fluff. The excellent products is my only concern. ;) ;D



snowbound

[VikingStorm]

I'm surprised no one has tried to volunteer...

[mercurie]

-{ Quote: "Sometimes i wonder how can such Good software lies in such xxxx Website.

If it is professional that why can't they make the website more professional?" }-Please....
::) ....Please.... ::) ...give the guy (Kevin) a break...Great product Great support... Lets only hope that if he makes changes to the site they stay away from YELLOW..... ;D ;D

Well speak of the little devil he just asked if I wanted to collect the latest update...

;) Bring her on BO.... :)

[Primrose]

-{ Quote: "Sometimes i wonder how can such Good software lies in such xxxx Website.

If it is professional that why can't they make the website more professional?" }-

Because it loads faster just the way it is..you want some java beans and more flash stuff ;D

His clients do not..whether they be Bussiness Customers or home users.

[Primrose]

-{ Quote: "I'm surprised no one has tried to volunteer..." }-

Someone has..his name is Redhat.. ;D maybe he will post and tell you about it.

[RedhatCOC]

Well hello there :D

A couple of months back I was working on a new site for PSC, but unfortunately after many attempts at contact, no further response has been received from Kevin or Nancy. Now it's after the holidays, I'll try and get in contact again.

My style is Professional but light, so don't worry about that :)

Regards,
Matt

[iwod]

exactly.... Professional........ what a lot of people tend to think flash for?

It could just be some simple restyling, and better fonts used. That's it. Look at other product as as Giant website. It is not flashy but simple and professional.

I know we are not suppose to judge a book by its cover. But "image" is what sells.

NOD32 never got off to real consumer really i think is one cluster interface. UI/ website / package is what you communicate to your protential customer.

P.S any news on BOclean 5 yet ^^

[Primrose]

-{ Quote: "exactly.... Professional........ what a lot of people tend to think flash for?

It could just be some simple restyling, and better fonts used. That's it. Look at other product as as Giant website. It is not flashy but simple and professional.

I know we are not suppose to judge a book by its cover. But "image" is what sells.

NOD32 never got off to real consumer really i think is one cluster interface. UI/ website / package is what you communicate to your protential customer.

P.S any news on BOclean 5 yet ^^" }-

You keep on throwing that word "professional" around and image. I will not list here the Corporate and Professional Organization who use BOClean but the list is very long. Image does not sell..Performance does..and in that regard you will not find anyone using BOClean asking for hijackthis help and Kevin has been addressing and cleaning all the variant of CWS from day one.

You can make "book" on that..he has you covered if you own the product and keep it updated. As far as the bells and whistles version 5..Kevin was never really hot on making that happen..but it will come when he decides to release it.. ;D

Never know the guy to have any desire to be number one.. ;) He did not start that way many years ago and he still enjoys the lab work rather that the hype.

[RedhatCOC]

-{ Quote: "exactly.... Professional........ what a lot of people tend to think flash for?
/QUOTE]

I've never used flash in anything and I don't intend to.

[controler]

Howdy


When I see this type thread, I think the people of the board have become bored LOL
They have seem to have run out of important things to discuss ???

Here is an example:

Last week while running RKDetector, I found it shut down the GUI to a security program. I knew protection was still there since I could see the driver. I wrote them an e-mail which only took a few days to respond.
Their reply was this and ony this, Sir RKDetector does not shut down your protection, it only closes the GUI.

ON the other hand if I would have sent that e-mail to Kevin, He would have sent a very long detailed reply as to why this happened and would mention it will be fixed soon.
If you are a Bo CLean user and had a nasty on your system, he would direct you to a FTP site where you would download a program, run it and send the TXT file to him for examination.
He might even tell you the other program causing conflits was occupieing
the same memory space. You never know. the software you are using could be poorly coded and using some of the same tech, that trojans actualy use LOL
At least he would tell you all this info.

I am surprised he is giving into the crowd and adding an on accerss scanner in 5.0. Me thinks some people want to be able to scan a known infected file and see the details.

NOw lets get on with real problems ;)


Bruce

[Primrose]

-{ Quote: "Howdy


When I see this type thread, I think the people of the board have become bored LOL
They have seem to have run out of important things to discuss ???

Here is an example:

Last week while running RKDetector, I found it shut down the GUI to a security program. I knew protection was still there since I could see the driver. I wrote them an e-mail which only took a few days to respond.
Their reply was this and ony this, Sir RKDetector does not shut down your protection, it only closes the GUI.

ON the other hand if I would have sent that e-mail to Kevin, He would have sent a very long detailed reply as to why this happened and would mention it will be fixed soon.
If you are a Bo CLean user and had a nasty on your system, he would direct you to a FTP site where you would download a program, run it and send the TXT file to him for examination.
He might even tell you the other program causing conflits was occupieing
the same memory space. You never know. the software you are using could be poorly coded and using some of the same tech, that trojans actualy use LOL
At least he would tell you all this info.

I am surprised he is giving into the crowd and adding an on accerss scanner in 5.0. Me thinks some people want to be able to scan a known infected file and see the details.

NOw lets get on with real problems ;)


Bruce" }-

And what would those real problems be..since your post has nothing to do with the subject of the thread. ;D ;D Are you just playing through without a caddie or want to show you read even other threads.

Happy New Year Controller..have no idea why you even posted that in this thread. ??? ???

[controler]

Actualy I do read other threads LOl

Was just giving Bo CLean an ataboy

[Primrose]

-{ Quote: "Actualy I do read other threads LOl

Was just giving Bo CLean an ataboy" }-

I thought so.. ;D then I will caddie for you.. ;)

[iwod]

OK... may be we people get different opinion, But that was one of the reason why i change to Trojan Hunter.

[Primrose]

-{ Quote: "OK... may be we people get different opinion, But that was one of the reason why i change to Trojan Hunter." }-


Good idea and another fine product with Aaron working day and night adding Browers Highjack's and other type of malware detection in Magnus program so you can't go wrong. ;)

Have you seen Aaron's new Forum ?



http://forums.manageyourpc.com/index.php?act=idx

[Primrose]

-{ Quote: "exactly.... Professional........ what a lot of people tend to think flash for?

It could just be some simple restyling, and better fonts used. That's it. Look at other product as as Giant website. It is not flashy but simple and professional.

I know we are not suppose to judge a book by its cover. But "image" is what sells.

NOD32 never got off to real consumer really i think is one cluster interface. UI/ website / package is what you communicate to your protential customer.

P.S any news on BOclean 5 yet ^^" }-

BTW there is not going to be a Giant website for much longer they were bought out by Microsoft...

Also there will never be a BOClean Version 5...it will go by a different version number when released. ;D

[muf]

-{ Quote: "OK... may be we people get different opinion, But that was one of the reason why i change to Trojan Hunter." }-

You changed to TrojanHunter because of the look of the PSC website? Your yanking my chain, surely? Now if you had said that you changed because BOClean wasn't running well on your pc or failed to protect you then i'd see a really good reason. But to change because you didn't like the design of the PSC website. I don't know what to say, words fail me...

muf

[puff-m-d]

-{ Quote: "You changed to TrojanHunter because of the look of the PSC website? Your yanking my chain, surely? Now if you had said that you changed because BOClean wasn't running well on your pc or failed to protect you then i'd see a really good reason. But to change because you didn't like the design of the PSC website. I don't know what to say, words fail me..." }-I myself personally have found very good software on very poor websites. For example: I love RegRun Suite and would not be without it, but their website, is horrible to me.... The merits of any software is in what it does and how well it does it,,, NOT in how a website looks...

[Primrose]

-{ Quote: "You changed to TrojanHunter because of the look of the PSC website? Your yanking my chain, surely? Now if you had said that you changed because BOClean wasn't running well on your pc or failed to protect you then i'd see a really good reason. But to change because you didn't like the design of the PSC website. I don't know what to say, words fail me...

muf" }-

yes ..seems a waste of money since you buy BOClean upfront ;D ;D

Sorry muf..this thread just cracks me up..flush it again for me please.

[hayc59]

-{ Quote: "OK... may be we people get different opinion, But that was one of the reason why i change to Trojan Hunter." }-Now That Is A New One On Me??

[hayc59]

If you want a real pretty web site!!
Try here---->
<<PUSH FOR PRETTY>> (http://www.agnitum.com/)
I hear the firewall is awesome also!!

[Acadia]

-{ Quote: "... that was one of the reason why i change to Trojan Hunter." }-
Ok, let me get this straight: you absolutely love the music of a particular rock or pop group, they are your all time favorite group, but since you don't like the design of their latest album cover (sorry, being a baby-boomer I still think in terms of album covers), you decide that you are not going to purchase the album?

Acadia

[Primrose]

-{ Quote: "If you want a real pretty web site!!
Try here---->
<<PUSH FOR PRETTY>> (http://www.agnitum.com/)
I hear the firewall is awesome also!!" }-

hey nice Feng Shui 8)

http://paganandproud.bravepages.com/Feng%20Shui.html

I might get that one just for the packaging..what color is the CD ?

[hayc59]

Kinda Blue, Kinda Grey, Kinda White;)

[Primrose]

-{ Quote: "Kinda Blue, Kinda Grey, Kinda White;)" }-

DUDE that's ..

[mercurie]

O. K. well let me add this little tid bit too. I have checked all other security on two machines. No EZ AV update since the 24th. No update on Adware; early this evening check or on SpyBot, not on Command either since the 23rd. No liveupdates on Norton Personal firewall. Hmmm.

I guess some folks think nasties take off for the holidays. No not really. Flashy sites. Give me dedication anytime over flash. BoClean... an update nearly every single day since Christmas.

I rest my case ;D

[Primrose]

No updates on TDS :'( But they have a good looking site. :)

[iwod]

Can we get off the topic of flash. I never say the word flash in my orginal post. I meant the fonts and style of table and Layout of website is very old style.

I change to TH because of BO UI, not website. Since i rate BO roughly = to TH then i choose the Prettier UI.

Some people say UI and website don't sell.... That is because you are all Technies, What about those general Public? ( But looking at another side, all those software general public use tends to be shite.......Norton?? )

Anyway i don't think there is much to discuss. All i was pointing out was trying to help BOclean.

Have a good day and happy new year. ^^

[Primrose]

Yes..well we would like to know if you really purchased BOClean in the first place and now also bought TH, since we can not figure out why the general public would throw away there money like that ..just on an IU thingie. ;)

I have never seen a user do that. You will be the first since if you had BOClean and used it with no problem that you have ever posted..and it is a fact you could run them both if you set them up correctly. So you started the thread and now the ball is in your court.

Nothing to do with techie..has to do with common sense.

[bellgamin]

-{ Quote: "...have no idea why you even posted that in this thread." }-
Isn't that a bit heavy-handed? NOT your style at all.

-{ Quote: "Nothing to do with techie..has to do with common sense." }-
Ah, the view from Mount Olympus must be grand this time of year. ;)

[FanJ]

-{ Quote: "No updates on TDS :'( But they have a good looking site. :)" }-

Well well John, I don't know why you posted this here; but you, who are keeping such a big history of things, should have known that the DCS-guys are usually taking a break between Christmas and NewYear.
Everyone who uses TDS-3 for some years, knows that.

So : did you have any other intention by posting that?

[FanJ]

Just to make my personal view clear:
I'm fine with the BOClean site !!!
For me there is no need to change it.

Jan,
licenced user of BOClean, TDS-3, TrojanHunter, The Cleaner, Tauscan.
(and yes, I did pay for them).

[mercurie]

Fellow Creatures,
I stand firmly by my post #10. ;)

Let me clear up a possible misunderstanding in post #33. I was not slamming other security products but I was very much admiring 'Kevin and Company's" dedication to protecting his users. :)

Wow FanJ your PC security budget is much more then I could ever hope for. I will try to remember this in case I need some opinion or help. ;)

[Primrose]

-{ Quote: "Just to make my personal view clear:
I'm fine with the BOClean site !!!
For me there is no need to change it.

Jan,
licenced user of BOClean, TDS-3, TrojanHunter, The Cleaner, Tauscan.
(and yes, I did pay for them)." }-

It is not the high and mighty from Mount Olympus sitting here my two friends..but rather the low and humble who uses none of the programs you listed..yet visits site that would whack most silly without all the third party AV,AT,Antispyware programs..and I can do that since I know what they do and how to contain them with the private software and sandboxes I do run.

Nevertheless.. ;D I help many people understand how to use those Security Applications just like you have over the years.

I think they are all great products..even TDS..and if you buy them..use them..and read their manual and every thing you can get you hands on to get the best performance from each.

BOClean did not go on Vacation over the Holiday.. that is a fact. ;) Neither did the General public..


Happy New year ;)


BOClean - last update: 01 Jan 2005

[VikingStorm]

Websites are marketing tools at the core. So shouldn't it be utilized to it's fullest?

I do have to admit, if it wasn't for extensive word of mouth recommendations, I would be very reluctant to give BOClean a try.
Because yes, a good number of faulty sham products have not so professional websites.
A good website can only help, not hurt. But of course, if word of mouth is what they want to rely on, then a site is minimized.

[muf]

Usually the best products/services are found by word of mouth. It's difficult to judge a product from a review as these reviews can be somewhat biased because the reviewer could be affiliated to the product. Most of what i use is from word of mouth. I would expect that if it wasn't for users recommendation's then i'd probably be using something much more commercialised than what i currently have. KAV, NOD32, Regrun, BOClean. I've never seen any of these on a shelf in a shop in the UK. Maybe you can get these products off the shelf in the USA but i'd be surprised.

muf

[mercurie]

Fellow creatures,

Here is where I first heard of BoClean, which lead to more research before deciding it was right for me. One of the best decisions I ever made, never gave the website a thought. Some may find this interesting.

http://www.jmu.edu/computing/info-security/engineering/issues/boclean.shtml

;)

[Atangel]

I get the feeling that this thread would have better been named, "Dog Ugly Software that Works Better than Anything"

The list would be a long one.

Not that BOClean or its Web site is dog ugly, but fashion designers they aren't. neither am I come to think of it. But I do know I prefer denim to silk on a daily basis. And BOClean is similarly utilitarian. Come to think of it, one of the prettiest GUIs going that I know of is for a product that doesn't work right most of the time (I think it is called Widnows 8) )

Nice James Madison thread.

[S!x]

to change because you didn't like the design of the PSC website. I don't know what to say, words fail me...

LOL!! ...
I guess this is the mentality that allows a sleak, flash-driven site to install a ton of third party cookies and run a multitude of Active X Controls ... all while the user is busy watching the show ... sure i would love to download your combo spykiller-toolbar ... with a site like this it has to be great.;D

My guess is ... he/she is a youngster.