Wilders not working w/ Firefox.

[Wraith]

I just installed a Linksys router and now when I try to access this forum using Firefox I get a bunch of computer language. It works fine w/ IE. Any ideas?

[Mele20]

Hmm. I have a Linsky router and have no problems using FF here. Is this the only site with the problem? What exactly do you see? No error message? Just computer language gobbledegook on the page?

[nadirah]

I think you did not install your router properly.

[Wraith]

Wilders is the only page, so far, that is doing this. It seems like I'm seeing the instructions on how the page is setup. This kind of stuff:

<a style="float:right" href="#top" onclick="return toggle_collapse('forumbit_27')"><img id="collapseimg_forumbit_27" src="images/buttons/collapse_tcat.gif" alt="" border="0" /></a>
<a href="forumdisplay.php?amp;f=27">Official LooknStop Firewall Forum</a>

[spy1]

Getting a few "hiccups" with FireFox (v1.0) but I'm posting to here on it now, so it must be something else on your end. Pete

*Below is a screenshot of what I'm getting a lot of lately here w/FF. Doesn't matter whether I'm logged in or out, or whether or not I click directly on a link in the main page or on a specific link from the main page.

[Mele20]

That does look like the language for the page structure, I think.

I don't understand why only Wilders is giving you problems on FF only. That sounds like some strange FF problem. Since IE displays properly behind your router then it must be FF and not the router. Since you got the router and had this problem, have you tried taking the router out of the picture temporarily and connecting directly to the modem (with of course ICF or some other software firewall to protect you)? Maybe you will still have a problem here and that would eliminate the router and point directly to FF.

Do you have Mozilla, or Netscape or Opera that you could try here and see how they are?

[ljc1174]

The screenshot spy1 posted is what I had been getting over the last two days...today it's been fine though. I assumed it was my internet connection because I was getting a lot of page cannot be displayed errors.
All seems fine today!
I'm using IE btw.

~lori

[rdsu]

It works fine to me with Maxthon, Firefox or Opera...

[eisefr]

-{ Quote: "Wilders is the only page, so far, that is doing this. It seems like I'm seeing the instructions on how the page is setup. This kind of stuff:

<a style="float:right" href="#top" onclick="return toggle_collapse('forumbit_27')"><img id="collapseimg_forumbit_27" src="images/buttons/collapse_tcat.gif" alt="" border="0" /></a>
<a href="forumdisplay.php?amp;f=27">Official LooknStop Firewall Forum</a>" }-

DId you clean your cache in Firefox already?
Maybe there was a connection problem and firefox didn't get all page informations but is still using them from the cache. With deleting your cache firefox is forced to reload the whole page NEW.

To delete the cache go to the TOOLS - OPTIONS - Menu.
The rest you see in the screenshot below.

Hope it helps.

[Wraith]

Yesterday Wilders started working again. But today it is not. I just cleared out my cache but I'm still getting the same garbage. I'll fiddle w/ the router tomorrow.

[eisefr]

Hard to believe that it is coming from the router... But maybe you should try and disable the firewall on it? That's the only thing what I see what could cause your problems.

if that doesn't change anything.. unplug the router and connect the computer directly ... Is the site working then?

[BlueZannetti]

I use Firefox exclusively and have since the very early beta versions.

I've never seen that type of problem. Occasionally I do see the message shown by spy1, although this always seems to occur when I try to jump to a topic directly from a direct link on the main page - typically from the "10 most recent posts" section, instead of entering the forum section first.

Can that router be set to strip out content of any type?

Blue

[Peaches4U]

-{ Quote: "Getting a few "hiccups" with FireFox (v1.0) but I'm posting to here on it now, so it must be something else on your end. Pete

*Below is a screenshot of what I'm getting a lot of lately here w/FF. Doesn't matter whether I'm logged in or out, or whether or not I click directly on a link in the main page or on a specific link from the main page." }-

Hi Spy - Go to Tools/Options/Privacy/cookies/exceptions and check to see if u have cookies for the Wilders site blocked. If Wilders is not on that list - add it to ALLOW cookies - see if this helps. Also if u turn on ur Privacy Alert, when ur problem occurs, click on the Privacy Alert to check what the privacy alert says - u may find ur answer there.

[spy1]

P4U - Hi. No cookies from Wilders blocked - the ones in the screenshot are the ones that are allowed in FireFox. But thanks for reminding me to check. Pete

[Jimbob1989]

Pete, that screen shot you posted about, #5. I occassionally get that on both Internet Explorer and Moziilla FireFoz, It usually goes after a bit.

Jimbob

[no13]

you're using v1.0 right? and not 0.1 or 1.0PR? hmm...
maybe you want to reinstall FF? After exporting all settings tho'.
I think you'd want either chrome edit plugin or a 3rd party app. Can't say FF has an inbuilt backup option.

[Jimbob1989]

I wonder if the message in post #5 is a normal message that comes up for example when there are too many people posting all at once.

Jimbob

[Detox]

No it's not - the server can handle MUCH more than what's being thrown at it.

[Jimbob1989]

-{ Quote: "No it's not - the server can handle MUCH more than what's being thrown at it." }-

The message is not a standard one though, its stored on the Wilders server, so I'm somewhat confused to its purpose.

Jimbob

[bigc73542]

I dropped firefox and installed mozilla 1.7.5 and haven't had that wilders pop up since. Maybe just a coincidence but I don't think so.

bigc

[Jimbob1989]

As its a personalised message, I assume it must be for an issue that the admins know about.

Jimbob

[spy1]

-{ Quote: "you're using v1.0 right? and not 0.1 or 1.0PR? hmm...
maybe you want to reinstall FF? After exporting all settings tho'.
I think you'd want either chrome edit plugin or a 3rd party app. Can't say FF has an inbuilt backup option." }-

When they went through that little burst of upgrades, I thought I kept up with them, but perhaps not. When I go to the "Properties" tab of the Firefox exe I'm using, it says: "1.7.5: 2004110711" for the "Product Version" value. Created Wednesday Nov. 10, 2004.

The screenshot of what I get when I click "Help"/"About Mozilla FireFox" is below. Pete

[Wraith]

A little new info. I was playing around w/ JAP a bit ago (though not now) and tried to get on here at Wilders using Firefox and it worked fine but when I quit using JAP and went back to Wilders w/ Firefox it didn't work again. Very strange!

[no13]

@Wraith. clear your cache. try after browser restart. simple.

"Jap's crap"
Tor's faster and smoother.
;)

[Jimbob1989]

-{ Quote: "@Wraith. clear your cache. try after browser restart. simple.

"Jap's crap"
Tor's faster and smoother.
;)" }-

Quick and too the point :)

Jimbob

[no13]

That reminds me...
DOS was originally [before Billy Gates bought it] called
QDOS: Quick and Dirty Operating System
[google it... it's fun!]

[spy1]

From someone who might know: Problem could be caused by the fact that if you open with multiple "Tabs", you've got too many connections going and either this site, or FireFox in particular, doesn't deal well with that here.

( <g> You know who you are!) Pete

[ancientscout]

You know, this program(spyware blaster)seems to have a good reputation but i would not purchase this program due to the fact that i downloaed it from a major site and in months have only been able to receive one update. It continually errors when trying to connect. I use FireFox and every other program works great.
There is nothing wrong with FF. We don't need to go there. Even a free version should be able to update like Spybot, AdAware, AVG or any other good free programs. Why doesn't this one have more frequent updates? It leads one to believe that only the ones that buy the program get the updates and, if that is not the case then it is a poor program that does not update itself for one or two months at a time..thats old news in the computer world of protection.
It looked good, people said good things about this program but it just doesn't live up to it..
Additionally, any software company that cannot be contacted easily at it's home page must have a reason why they cannot be contacted or they don't want to be bothered with people's complaints about their product.
Nice try guys..really.

[LowWaterMark]

Actually ancientscout, this isn't a thread about SpywareBlaster, it's about this forum and whether people are able to use Firefox with it successfully. If you are having a problem with SpywareBlaster, this is the forum to start a new thread in:

http://www.wilderssecurity.com/forumdisplay.php?f=23

[Wraith]

-{ Quote: "@Wraith. clear your cache. try after browser restart. simple.

"Jap's crap"
Tor's faster and smoother.
;)" }-

I just tried that and have before...no good. I'll give TOR a try, JAP is enormously slow.

[Peaches4U]

No problems with Firefox and Wilders compatibility or for that matter with any other forum that I belong to. Check ur security settings. Set ur cookies at Default and then in Exceptions - add Wilders as "allow". Maybe that will help.

[Jimbob1989]

-{ Quote: "That reminds me...
DOS was originally [before Billy Gates bought it] called
QDOS: Quick and Dirty Operating System
[google it... it's fun!]" }-

Had heard that before somewhere else, makes you laugh :D

Jimbob

[Wraith]

Wilders still doesn't work w/ Firefox unless I'm running either JAP or TOR then under those it works fine. Oh well, for Wilders I'll just use IE.

[hojtsy]

-{ Quote: "Wilders still doesn't work w/ Firefox unless I'm running either JAP or TOR then under those it works fine. Oh well, for Wilders I'll just use IE." }-
I am viewing Wilders with Firefox successfully for ages. It is not using any exotic IE-only tags or tricks. It simply must be an error in your settings.
-hojtsy-

[Oneothora]

I use FireFox and Wilders Forum is fine for me. :-\ Don't know what could be wrong. Maybe looking on FireFox Central (http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/central.html) for missing plugins or such? Though I don't think forums require some kind of plugin.

I have a question of my own about FireFox, I don't know if it's the right place to post it, but anyway, here (http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=27971) it explains how to check your ActiveX Security settings for higher security on IE, however, Like i stated above, I use FireFox, is there a security option thinger for ActiveX on FireFox aswell? :o

Thanks! Take care!

- Oneo

[ronjor]

-{ Quote: "I use FireFox, is there a security option thinger for ActiveX on FireFox aswell? " }-

No. There is an extension out there that allows you to use activeX with Firefox.
Otherwise, activeX is not available in Firefox.

Speaking for myself, that is a good thing. :)

[PLeX™]

I have a similar but not exact senario but close enough to be interesting. I will probably give too much info in the hopes that something might be of use.

Where I work we have seperate internet connections:

Connection A - a T1 serving our website (WinSvr 2003) behind a MS ISA 2000 Ent firewall
Connection B - a cable modem also behind another MS ISA 2000 Ent firewall
Connection C - on a completely seperate network another cable modem connection connected to a D-Link DI-624 router.
If I enable compression in IIS6 then I get a similar problem to the start of this thread when viewing our website from C, pretty much the raw html and not the page rendering like it should. Sometimes if I browse to another page and then back again, the page from our website will render but click to another page on our site and...html displayed again. Opposite from the thread starter though, the problem is with IE6...works fine using Firefox. If I view the pages from A, B, at home, at a friends, using dialup, or anywhere else, IE6 works fine. If I swap the modem at B and C, same problem. If I bypass the router and connect the modem at C directly to the computer, the problems is still present. Thinking it could be the computer at C...I tried the computer from C and connected it to B, finally, no more problems. So just to make sure I tried completely different computers (4 desktops and 3 laptops), and got same results.

So, the problem only exists when pages are viewed from one physical connection when the webserver is using compression regardless of the equipment. So I looked at the wiring. The cable connection on the outside of the building is split once, one connection goes to C and the other runs to another junction box further down on the building which is split again, one to B and the other to the next store. The signal strength is -8.0db at C and -9.3db at B. Both acceptable, but barely. I'd think if it were a signal strength issue I'd see the problem on B and not C.

I'm at a loss to explain this behavior, so for now I have compression turned off. So what I'm getting at is my problem seems to be related to the actual cable connection itself. Maybe the thread starters problems may be related to mine.

I'd love to hear from someone, especially in the cable industry, that might have an idea what's going on.

[Jimbob1989]

-{ Quote: "No. There is an extension out there that allows you to use activeX with Firefox.
Otherwise, activeX is not available in Firefox.

Speaking for myself, that is a good thing. :)" }-

When I asked some friends what they thought about me using FireFox, one asked if I was anti-Microsoft :lurking: and and other said the only time I am realy going to need activeX is when on Microsoft or Adult sites.

Jimbob

[Oneothora]

-{ Quote: "When I asked some friends what they thought about me using FireFox, one asked if I was anti-Microsoft :lurking: and and other said the only time I am realy going to need activeX is when on Microsoft or Adult sites.
" }- Har har har... Well Well Well, Jimbob. Shows how well your friends know you right? ;) You little dirty muffin. HAHA I'm kidding.

But I wouldn't say using FireFox is anti-Microsoft, I say it's anti evil crap that flows in through Microsoft. IE is just so popular that people bored with their lives and eatting pizza, will create evil things against IE and be able to filter through the little cracks that need patches and hit homeland in your computer. FireFox isn't all that world wide known yet, so those evil people at the moment are probably studying it's flaws and qualities before deciding they have nothing better to do that create something against it.

Just think LARGE, because thats how those people think, wether it's about pizza or how many people they want to effect, they'll pick the most populated pizza place.

(Not being Descriminating, Just comparing with metaphors, plus I have this thing against the creators of such nasty bugs, so I dont care thinking of them as Pizza eatting home slugs with no life.)

I should go hide now. They will start targetting me next... :lurking: