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headquarter
December 9th, 2002, 03:22 PM
Hi:what is the best spyware programs
that Really work
freeware or shareware it doesn,t matter
peace.

Pieter_Arntz
December 9th, 2002, 03:48 PM
Hi headquarter,

For the moment I use Spybot S&D for cleaning and Spywareblaster for prevention.
Links and info can be found here: http://www.wilders.org/spyware.htm

Regards,

Pieter

notageek
December 9th, 2002, 06:10 PM
I also use Spybot S&D. It works great. I haven't tried Spywareblaster yet.

the Tester
December 9th, 2002, 06:51 PM
I have the same two programs that Pieter has.I recommend them both.You will get excellent support from both developers!A lot of times you can get answers to any questions in this forum.These developers are active in looking for new spyware to target.I have tried a few spyware programs and in my opinion these programs are the best.

TonyKlein
December 10th, 2002, 03:51 AM
SpyBot as well.

I'm pretty active at the Lavasoft board, SpyBot forums, as well as at the independent Spywareinfo.com, and I therefore think I'm in a pretty good position to compare the merits of those two, and others, and SpyBot does by far the best job.

Detection for new baddies gets added within days. What more
could you wish for?

john2g
December 10th, 2002, 09:32 AM
SpyBot here, as well

CARCHARODON
December 14th, 2002, 12:02 AM
What happened to lavasoft (Adaware)??? The haven't released an update since september.. I know their web site is still up... are they done with adaware?

Mike_Healan
December 14th, 2002, 04:08 AM
Lavasoft decided to not update adaware while they finish up AAW6. That was three months ago and the spyware companies have been going nuts.

Too bad about all those people who paid $15 USD for the Plus version, just to have it not be updated.

Solarpoweredcandle
December 14th, 2002, 02:59 PM
Yea, Too True , I would have rather given my $15 to spybot , which I will donate too for xmas , as he does a neat job and service for anyone who wants this protection on there pc Same goes for javacool, ,



PS I hope everyone has a peaceful time this xmas and doesnt get too wiped out or blown away by the rush, May Peace reside in your hearts, Kind regards , Robert

Straight Shooter
December 16th, 2002, 07:38 PM
My Nephew, aged 14, had Gator, and other spyware on his machine.. AdAware would not be able to remove it, and for some reason, Gator would simply create itself over when it was deleted.. I installed Spybot S&D, and had to run it twice, but it FOREVER deleted Gator! Yay! Spybot is my new spyware detector! My nephew has a Win ME Compaq Presario..
8)

mjc
December 19th, 2002, 12:50 AM
Spybot here too....was a loyal AAW user for quite some time, but the lack of updates has really made its usefullness questionable.

octogen
December 19th, 2002, 12:25 PM
One more for Spybot. It is quite good. I will also give a donation. ;)

canuk
December 19th, 2002, 12:40 PM
Hope I'm in the right place to ask this, if not feel free to move it. I am currently using adaware/adwatch. Can I also use Spybot at the same time or will there be a conflict. Thanks

TonyKlein
December 19th, 2002, 12:47 PM
No, there won't be a conflict.

Just use SpyBot for scanning on demand.

But once again, the present version of Ad-Aware is pretty useless
as a first line of defense against spyware, as it hasn't been updated for 3 months.

You might as well uninstall your present version of Ad-Aware and wait for AAW 6.0, as that will almost certainly require a fresh install anyway.

canuk
December 19th, 2002, 12:55 PM
Thanks Tony. I'll download Spybot now. :)

Luthorcrow
December 20th, 2002, 08:55 PM
Sybot S&D and Spywareblaster here as well. Another nice feature of S&D that is lacking Adaware is that it not only finds bugs but also suggestions various data, temp, cache files that can deleted for privacy reasons.

wink
December 24th, 2002, 10:09 AM
Hi,

I used to use Ad-Aware until I stumbled across Wilderssecurity, I installed Spybot S&D and it was by far superior to what I had been using, I have downloaded SpywareBlaster but have yet to install it, I have quite a lot running in the system tray and I am in 2 minds whether to add more.

Should I install SpywareBlaster? Is the difference it makes noticable? ie., will I be notified of blocked spy's as and when they occur?

Sorry to post questions within the thread but I dodn't think it worthwhile enough a question for a dedicated topic.

Thanks and Merry Christmas....

Paul Wilders
December 24th, 2002, 03:11 PM
Hi wink,

Spyware Blaster prevents certain and databased spyware from being installed, thus there will be no alert.

Since SB is a "one time set up" program (apart from updates), it's merely a question of installing, enabling - and that's it - nothing running in the background. I for one would recommend installing it ;).

regards.

paul

tosbsas
December 29th, 2002, 10:46 AM
Anyone using the resdident part of Spybot&Destroy??

Ruben

JayK
December 30th, 2002, 11:15 PM
Let's see what spybot resident does.
And see if it's worth using

-{ Quote: "

Resident is watching all known (to me) Internet Explorer start & search page settings, and if a hijacker tries to change one of them, it will warn you, allowing you to restore the old settings or keep the new ones.

" }-


Basically a homepage guard, not really critical IMHO if you have reasonably high security settings and don't click yes on everything :) .Spybot should pick homepage hijackers up by detection anyway if you run it weekly (and you shoud!) and Spywareblaster should immunise you , unless you are unlucky and get a early strain.

-{ Quote: "

Resident can also protect some files from write and delete access.

" }-

Hmm might be useful, except I could simply lock the files by making them read only?

-{ Quote: "
Some programs like dialers are easily run by just clicking a web link. And spyware often runs in the background all the time, without a visible task bar or tray icon. Resident watches for such suspicious processes and gives you the option to terminate them at once.
One of the next versions will give an additional option to remove the file itself once it was terminated.

" }-

This might actually be worth having. Depends on how it is done.What are suspicious processes?Anything you don't allow? Does it allow you to lock down applications/processes that can run?

Most personal firewalls only actively monitor applications when they try to dial out/connect to the net but gives no protection against malware that are just working within the system. Some firewall exploits make use of this by first "riding on" trusted programs (IE for example) within the system before connect to the net..

The newer generation of firewalls (Kerio 3 beta is supposed to have this) have strict "application control" to make it harder for unknown processes to run without permission on the computer. This seems to be what spybot resident does.

If you have Tiny Trojan trap it's even better.which actually blocks actions based on behaviour...

I'm not trying to knock Spybot resident. But many of us run a lot of memory resident protection programs. It might actually be worth something depending on funtionality ,stability and how resource hungry it is.

I mean some of us run resident antivirus,antitrojan,HTTP local proxy (proxo,webwasher etc),firewall, maybe a annymous proxy application,registry/script protection filtering/sandbox ,cookie manager,popup killer,eraser wiping free space etc... ;D

In such situtations adding even one more piece of software can be a strain even on the fastest system and it's best to consider whether it is worth to add yet another piece of software to the mix espically if their functions overlap. (some overlap is good though like firewall,host file)And I havent even mention compatiability issues!

That's why i kind of prefer passive measures (host files, script-trap) and scan on demand ( i even go without antivirus resident sometimes) if possible. Let's face it, most of the security problems are caused by careless actions (clicking yes, when you should click No) , and in such situations a truckload of memory resident programs running still won't save you.

PS I have no idea what I'm talking about...So feel free to ignore me.

Paul Wilders
December 30th, 2002, 11:31 PM
Hi Jay,

-{ Quote: "PS I have no idea what I'm talking about" }-

Doesn't seem that way to me ;).

regards.

paul

JayK
December 31st, 2002, 02:05 AM
Hi Paul. The Forum admin himself... I'm honoured..

-{ Quote: "
Hi Jay,

-{ Quote: "PS I have no idea what I'm talking about" }-

Doesn't seem that way to me ;).

regards.

paul
" }-



Thanks. I guess it's easy to fake it ;D if you have being reading on and off

Wilderseccurity forums
Spywareinfo forums
DSL reports
alt.privacy.spyware
alt.security.pgp
alt.comp.virus
comp.security.firewalls

plus various forums relating to specific security software. I use or might use.

Still a beginner though...

Jayk

Paul Wilders
December 31st, 2002, 02:54 AM
Calculated guess - and rightly so as it turns out ;).

We're all beginners to some extend ;D

regards.

paul

Tassie_Devils
January 1st, 2003, 05:12 AM
Chalk up another for SpyBotS&D; SpywareBlaster; BrowserHijack; MRU Blaster; IDBlaster.

They are the 'general spy' proggies used by me for protection
plus:
TDS3 [can't wait for TDS4]
Wormguard [ditto]
Kerio PFW
AV.

The Javacool tools are simply the best, simple, easy, and they WORK.

BrowserHijack runs and protects IE against attempting hijacking + it will alert you if any attempts, but also checks for new BHO's and notify of such. You start it, minimise to sys tray and it uses bugger all resources. I leave it running 24/7

My $0.02 worth. Cheers.

sk
January 3rd, 2003, 11:35 PM
-{ Quote: " quoting: Forum Admin link=board=20;threadid=5380;start=15#37560 date=1040760690]
Hi wink,

Spyware Blaster prevents certain and databased spyware from being installed, thus there will be no alert.

Since SB is a "one time set up" program (apart from updates), it's merely a question of installing, enabling - and that's it - nothing running in the background. I for one would recommend installing it ;).

regards.

paul
" }- Paul - one quick question: How can SB 'do' anything if it's not running in the background? TIA.

sk

MickeyTheMan
January 3rd, 2003, 11:51 PM
How? By setting a "kill bit" for the CLSIDs of spyware ActiveX controls, it prevents the installation of any of them from a webpage. You can run Internet Explorer with Active-X enabled, but you will never even get a "Yes/No" box popped up, asking you to install a spyware Active-X control (Internet Explorer will never download or run it!). All other Active-X controls or plug-ins will work fine.

The SpywareBlaster database contains information on these known spyware Active-X controls. Make sure you run the Check For Updates feature frequently to get the latest database! (And make sure you check the new items to protect your system against them!)

As a side benefit, setting this "kill bit" will also prevent the spyware Active-X from running, in many cases, if it is already installed on your system

sk
January 3rd, 2003, 11:54 PM
-{ Quote: " quoting: MickeyTheMan link=board=20;threadid=5380;start=15#39370 date=1041655910]
How? By setting a "kill bit" for the CLSIDs of spyware ActiveX controls, it prevents the installation of any of them from a webpage. You can run Internet Explorer with Active-X enabled, but you will never even get a "Yes/No" box popped up, asking you to install a spyware Active-X control (Internet Explorer will never download or run it!). All other Active-X controls or plug-ins will work fine.

The SpywareBlaster database contains information on these known spyware Active-X controls. Make sure you run the Check For Updates feature frequently to get the latest database! (And make sure you check the new items to protect your system against them!)

As a side benefit, setting this "kill bit" will also prevent the spyware Active-X from running, in many cases, if it is already installed on your system
" }- Thanks, MtM. As usual, u da man! :D As for me...I'm off to d/l Spyware Blaster. To the BAT CAVE boy wonder...

TheApostate
January 5th, 2003, 06:51 AM
Hi there all

I use adaware, outdated though it may be, though these days it's more of a backup proggy. Spybot is awesome and also spywareblaster. Going to have a look at the javacool site andd se what is to be seen.

TheApostate

sk
January 5th, 2003, 01:54 PM
-{ Quote: " quoting: TheApostate link=board=20;threadid=5380;start=15#39701 date=1041767467]
Hi there all

I use adaware, outdated though it may be, though these days it's more of a backup proggy. Spybot is awesome and also spywareblaster. Going to have a look at the javacool site andd se what is to be seen.

TheApostate
" }-Welcome to Wilders, T.A. ;D I also still use AdAware, now probably more for the nostalgic memories though. lol. Although I do believe they will resurface and be relevant once again in the near future. And as far as the javacool forum/site goes, you couldn't ask for a more helpful, relevant developer. You will not be disappointed, I promise you that.

JayK
January 6th, 2003, 05:53 AM
-{ Quote: "-{ Quote: " quoting: sk link=board=20;threadid=5380;start=15#39778 date=1041792847]

" }-Welcome to Wilders, T.A. ;D I also still use AdAware, now probably more for the nostalgic memories though. lol.
" }-

For nostalgic value? Why not use Gibson's optout ? ;D

sk
January 6th, 2003, 06:09 AM
-{ Quote: "
For nostalgic value? Why not use Gibson's optout ? ;D
" }- :DBecause until recently, Spybot didn't pick up Alexa, for some reason, and AdAware did. 8)

JayK
January 7th, 2003, 10:43 AM
-{ Quote: " quoting: sk link=board=20;threadid=5380;start=30#39888 date=1041851380]
-{ Quote: "
For nostalgic value? Why not use Gibson's optout ? ;D
" }- :DBecause until recently, Spybot didn't pick up Alexa, for some reason, and AdAware did. 8)
" }-

That's a joke right? About the lone harmless Alexa key in IE?

sk
January 7th, 2003, 11:18 AM
-{ Quote: " quoting: JayK link=board=20;threadid=5380;start=30#40147 date=1041954225]That's a joke right? About the lone harmless Alexa key in IE?" }-No joke, unless the joke was on me. All I know was, each time I'd run AdAware after a reinstall it would show Alexa. If you're saying that was a false positive, I had no idea, nor do I have any idea how I could have known it was a false positive. I updated every available AdAware update that I could, so if it kept showing Alexa, I had to assume it was something to take in the same light as any other warning it showed. The only time I ever over-rode an AdAware alert was for a screen shot of a UCmore toolbar. The fact that it had UCmore in the name triggered a flag from AdAware, and I knew that it was a mistake, so I put that .jpg in the exclude option. But as far as Alexa, I would have had no way of knowing it was harmless.

sk

JayK
January 7th, 2003, 11:37 AM
-{ Quote: "-{ Quote: " quoting: sk link=board=20;threadid=5380;start=30#40163 date=1041956301]
No joke, unless the joke was on me. All I know was, each time I'd run AdAware after a reinstall it would show Alexa. If you're saying that was a false positive, I had no idea, nor do I have any idea how I could have known it was a false positive.
" }-

Well being a full fledged member of Wilders forum with 100+ posts under your belt, I would have thought you knew where to get help ;D


-{ Quote: "The only time I ever over-rode an AdAware alert was for a screen shot of a UCmore toolbar. The fact that it had UCmore in the name triggered a flag from AdAware, and I knew that it was a mistake, so I put that .jpg in the exclude option. But as far as Alexa, I would have had no way of knowing it was harmless.
" }-
sk

True. That what's irriates me about Adaware, it just matches on names. I have seen a lot of freeware authors being sent angry mail about spyware because their programs have the names comet, and adaware picks it up as comet cursor. !

You and I,we know it's a false alarm, but most users don't.
" }-

sk
January 7th, 2003, 12:14 PM
-{ Quote: " quoting: JayK link=board=20;threadid=5380;start=30#40166 date=1041957460]

You and I,we know it's a false alarm, but most users don't.
" }-You can say that again. I'm still unclear about Alexa.

JayK
January 7th, 2003, 01:37 PM
i dont know what I'm talking about

sk
January 7th, 2003, 01:41 PM
-{ Quote: " quoting: JayK link=board=20;threadid=5380;start=30#40195 date=1041964678]
i dont know what I'm talking about
" }-Well, that makes one of us.
??? :o ;D ;D ;D :D
Just kidding, JayK. You know a lot of stuff and present it here very clearly. I'm just not clear about the whole Alexa thing, though. Is it really a false positive? I thought at one point I checked it out at Spychecker and it registered as spyware there too.
Update: Well, I guess not. I just checked and Alexa is not registering at Spychecker.com.
sk

Pieter_Arntz
January 7th, 2003, 01:59 PM
I stole this quote from a web-page that is off-line so I am not able to link to it:

Quote:

This particular key is included as part of an enhancement to IE 5 and above in which Alexa searches for related web pages to the ones you area currently on, by default the Related button does not show in IE except on some versions provided by some ISP's. Additionally Alexa is included in the options for the search button in IE.

Hope that helps,

Pieter

solarpowered candle
January 7th, 2003, 03:31 PM
I asked pestpatrol what they thought of it and why it was not picked up by a scan with pest patrol when Ad aware would go crazy when it picked up on it and this is their reply
There are two forms of Alexa that might be found in a machine: an Alexa toolbar service and a registry entry. While the toolbar service compromises your privacy, a lone registry entry is not a problem.

Ad-Aware false alarms on a registry entry. The Alexa registry entry that is created by an IE 6 install is not a pest, not a problem, and nothing to worry about. The issue is the 'related links' feature of IE which appears as the 'Tools'/'Show Related Links' menu item, and a corresponding toolbar button if you added it (from the 'Customize...' link on the toolbar). Ad-Aware is simply detecting a registry key that creates a menu item that points to a local web page that points to an MSN search page that uses the Alexa engine. Our position is that this is 0% spyware, and 100% a false alarm by Ad-Aware.

You may convince yourself of that by noting that there were no Alexa files found when you scanned with Ad-Aware.

If you have already removed this registry entry, it will be restored the next time you add a service pack for IE. And its absence does not appear to cause any harm to IE's operation.

Some info on the Alexa toolbar service may be found here: http://pestpatrol.com/pestinfo/a/alexa_adware.asp

If you have any reason to think otherwise, please write.

+++

Here is some more info on Alexa, in case you are interested.

If you use 'related links', IE will contact the Alexa servers to obtain information about other web pages which might be related. But you will not be spied on UNLESS you intentionally install other Alexa software, in which case PestPatrol will find and report a possible problem.

If you have an Alexa toolbar, and wish to uninstall it, all versions of the Alexa Toolbar have an uninstall feature. It will be located in different places, depending on which version you have installed.

To uninstall Alexa Toolbar 6, click on the small down arrow by the Alexa logo on the toolbar and select Uninstall Alexa from the drop down menu.

To uninstall Alexa Toolbar 5, click on the round '?' button on the Alexa toolbar and select Uninstall Alexa from the drop down menu.

To uninstall Alexa Toolbar 4, open the Alexa sidebar, click on Help, and select Uninstall Alexa.

Alexa Toolbars 4, 5, and 6 may also be uninstalled using your computer's Add/Remove Programs feature. Open your Windows Start menu, go to Settings, click on Control Panel, and then double click on Add/Remove Programs. Click on Alexa and then click the remove button. The next time you open a new browser window, the toolbar should be gone.

If you have trouble uninstalling Alexa Toolbars 4, 5, or 6 using these methods, please take a moment to try our alternate method at http://www.alexa.com/exec/faqsidos/help/index.html?index=38 to uninstall the toolbar.

To uninstall Alexa Toolbar 1.4.1 (the version for Netscape Navigator), click on Start > Programs > Alexa > Uninstall. Then follow the on-screen steps.

To remove the Alexa Snapshot link from your links bar, simply delete it.

If the above methods don't work, and you wish to uninstall the Alexa Toobars 3, 4, 5, or 6 from Internet Explorer:

1. Go to: http://download.alexa.com/alexa_uninstall.inf

2. Save the file to your desktop (Save to Disk and save in Desktop). Do not open the file.

3. Find the 'alexa_uninstall' icon on your desktop, right-click on it and select 'install.' It will seem like nothing has happened.

4. Please close all your open Internet Explorer windows. When you re-open an Internet Explorer window, the Alexa toolbar should be uninstalled.


If you have questions or need help while uninstalling, you can e-mail customerservice@alexa.com.







- David Stang
PestPatrol Research, Development, and Support
http://PestPatrol.com/Support/

about aggregate web usage and shopping habitsa from internet explorer or windows a spyware or pest ,
Thank you for your assistance

Joe
January 7th, 2003, 07:32 PM
I am very new here, having just registered.

I have Spybot and Spyblaster both installed.

I update Spyblaster and then run it and select it to kill all of them off.

I then run Spybot and it find that Advertising Junction is still there and active.

It is possible to get the names of the spies that Spybot finds into the list for Spyblaster and how do I do it??

Joe
::)

sk
January 7th, 2003, 07:47 PM
-{ Quote: " quoting: solarpowered candle link=board=20;threadid=5380;start=30#40218 date=1041971517]
I asked pestpatrol what they thought of it and why it was not picked up by a scan with pest patrol when Ad aware would go crazy when it picked up on it and this is their reply for your assistance
" }-Thanks, S.P.C. It's clearer now.

sk

Mike_Healan
January 7th, 2003, 08:13 PM
I've been trying to get them to stop detecting that $%@#%^ registry key for months. There is NO reason for it to be flagged .... at all ... and yet if a spyware cleaner DOESN'T flag it, people automatically assume it's missing something just because Lavasoft has decided to erroneously label a lone registry key as spyware.

And what Spybot "fixes" now is completely different from what Ad-aware "fixes". What Spybot does is replace the local file that the Related Sites tool points to with one that sends you to google's related sites area. Be aware that Spybot's backup tool doesn't restore that file for some reason.

sk
January 7th, 2003, 09:03 PM
-{ Quote: " quoting: Mike Healan link=board=20;threadid=5380;start=30#40274 date=1041988426]
I've been trying to get them to stop detecting that $%@#%^ registry key for months. There is NO reason for it to be flagged .... at all ... and yet if a spyware cleaner DOESN'T flag it, people automatically assume it's missing something just because Lavasoft has decided to erroneously label a lone registry key as spyware.

And what Spybot "fixes" now is completely different from what Ad-aware "fixes". What Spybot does is replace the local file that the Related Sites tool points to with one that sends you to google's related sites area. Be aware that Spybot's backup tool doesn't restore that file for some reason.
" }-Thanks to you Mike as well.
sk

JayK
January 7th, 2003, 11:37 PM
-{ Quote: " quoting: Joe link=board=20;threadid=5380;start=30#40266 date=1041985931]

I have Spybot and Spyblaster both installed.

I update Spyblaster and then run it and select it to kill all of them off.

I then run Spybot and it find that Advertising Junction is still there and active.
Joe
::)
" }-

As I understand it, Spyblaster prevents you from installing activex crap from your browser. Once it's installed, there is not much it can do.

Think of spyblaster has a immunizing shot. But once you are infected it does no good to take that shot..

(Or Maybe it does, I don't know what I'm talking about, since I'm not a doctor)

-{ Quote: "


It is possible to get the names of the spies that Spybot finds into the list for Spyblaster and how do I do it??

" }-

I'll leave a real expert to answer this. But I'm guessing everything in spyblaster is in spybot, but not viceversa. But there's a forum for spyblaster on wilders right, so maybe ask there.

PS I have no idea what "Advertising junction" is. " }-

javacool
January 8th, 2003, 12:17 AM
-{ Quote: " quoting: JayK link=board=20;threadid=5380;start=30#40315 date=1042000649]
-{ Quote: " quoting: Joe link=board=20;threadid=5380;start=30#40266 date=1041985931]

I have Spybot and Spyblaster both installed.

I update Spyblaster and then run it and select it to kill all of them off.

I then run Spybot and it find that Advertising Junction is still there and active.
Joe
::)
" }-

As I understand it, Spyblaster prevents you from installing activex crap from your browser. Once it's installed, there is not much it can do.

Think of spyblaster has a immunizing shot. But once you are infected it does no good to take that shot..

(Or Maybe it does, I don't know what I'm talking about, since I'm not a doctor)" }-

In fact, it can disable some spyware, and some components of spyware, after that spyware is installed. :)

-{ Quote: "-{ Quote: "


It is possible to get the names of the spies that Spybot finds into the list for Spyblaster and how do I do it??

" }-

I'll leave a real expert to answer this. But I'm guessing everything in spyblaster is in spybot, but not viceversa. But there's a forum for spyblaster on wilders right, so maybe ask there.

PS I have no idea what "Advertising junction" is. " }-

I'm fairly sure everything SpywareBlaster protects you against can be cleaned by Spybot (although sometimes one program gets a new version before the other), and I'm always updating the database to add new items. Currently, you can't add items yourself as you'd have to know the CLSIDs - plus the database is encrypted.

Then again, if you do find any ActiveX spyware programs that are not in the SpywareBlaster definitions yet, I'll be more than happy to investigate and add them (if I can prove their malicious purpose - which usually doesn't take long if they are spyware). :)

I believe Advertising Junction is a cookie (a small text file placed on your computer by a website) - thus SpywareBlaster can't protect against it but there are dedicated "cookie blocking" programs available.

Hope this helps,

-Javacool

Joe
January 8th, 2003, 12:49 AM
thank you both, that has explained it a little better for me.

Sorry to be a SOB, but I don't like intruders.

I was looking for a Spyblaster forum but I couldn't seeit. oH well.

Cya :)

Joe
January 8th, 2003, 07:00 AM
Further to my last posting, this time when I ran Spybot I again got;

MediaPlex,
AvenueA.inc.
Commission Junction
Double Click

Are these spyware that hopefully Spyeware Blaster should be stopping or are they false alarms?

Joe

Pieter_Arntz
January 8th, 2003, 07:09 AM
-{ Quote: " quoting: Joe link=board=20;threadid=5380;start=45#40379 date=1042027222]
Further to my last posting, this time when I ran Spybot I again got;

MediaPlex,
AvenueA.inc.
Commission Junction
Double Click

Are these spyware that hopefully Spyeware Blaster should be stopping or are they false alarms?

Joe

" }-

Hi Joe,

Spywareblaster can not protect you from receiving cookies. Only from spyware that uses ActiveX controls.
To help you with your cookie control we'd have to know what browser you are using.

Regards,

Pieter

Joe
January 8th, 2003, 07:15 AM
Pieter, when I see things like that I don't really know if the are spyware or cookies. The fact that Spybot found them I just assumed that they were spyware.

I am using Internet Explorer SP1 and OE.

Thanks
Joe

Pieter_Arntz
January 8th, 2003, 07:28 AM
Of course I can't be completely sure from here, but looking at the names I suspect these are cookies. This stuff is spyware, but of the kind Spywareblaster can't protect you against.
For Cookie control in IE6 have look at this thread: http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=6071
and this one for a vast choice of programs that control cookies:
http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=3196;start=0

Regards,

Pieter

Tassie_Devils
January 8th, 2003, 10:01 AM
Hi Joe and welcome to the forum.

Just for further info, if you look at this pic [I went to a couple of sites where I new I would get tracking cookies] you will see it tells you if they are cookies, etc.

Simply choose "Fix the Problem" and then click on the "Recovery" button on left, and you will see they are in that window, then "Select All" and Delete.

End of cookies. :)

JayK
January 8th, 2003, 10:02 AM
I've read of a spyware that actually hijacks the google toolbar and replaces it with it's own search toolbar Is this new? Or can many spyware do this?

Pieter_Arntz
January 8th, 2003, 10:19 AM
Hi JayK,

Are you referring to the vulnerability in the older versions of the Google Toolbar as described here: http://sec.greymagic.com/adv/gm001-mc/ or is this a new exploit?

Regards,

Pieter

Joe
January 8th, 2003, 10:07 PM
-{ Quote: " quoting: Tassie_Devils link=board=20;threadid=5380;start=45#40409 date=1042038096]
Hi Joe and welcome to the forum.

Just for further info, if you look at this pic [I went to a couple of sites where I new I would get tracking cookies] you will see it tells you if they are cookies, etc.

Simply choose "Fix the Problem" and then click on the "Recovery" button on left, and you will see they are in that window, then "Select All" and Delete.

End of cookies. :)
" }-

Thanks Devil, but when I use recover there is no select all or delete button there. So I selected them all individually and then hit the Purge button, is that what you meant.

Thanks
Joe

Tassie_Devils
January 9th, 2003, 12:28 AM
Hi Joe:

Set up your setting like my pic and you will get all the buttons when going to recovery


edit: this option is under "Settings" then scroll the window to the bottom

Tassie_Devils
January 9th, 2003, 12:31 AM
Then you will have it like my pic below.

Cheers.

sk
January 9th, 2003, 12:38 AM
Nice posts, Taz. Very nice. Are you currently doing anything with some of the new tools? (Like BHOs, ActiveX, or Hosts file?)

sk

Tassie_Devils
January 9th, 2003, 12:43 AM
thanks sk

not really, I do have a gander every now and then, and do a "report" just to see what's what. Mainly for any changes, etc. in BHO's [but that's covered by Browser Hijack Blaster anyway]

Startup list, etc. very hand for a quick check. I like what Patrick's done/doing with this proggy. Brilliant.

Also javacool's and DiamondCS programs, all absolutely the *best* support I have ever seen, literally.

Tassie_Devils
January 9th, 2003, 12:46 AM
Anyhow, it's hi-ho off to work I go .
Won't be back >:( for about 10 hours.

So any more ? Joe, sk or someone in here will be only too pleased to answer for you mate.

Cheers, TAS.

sk
January 9th, 2003, 01:07 AM
Yup, we got it pretty much covered 24/7. 8)

snapdragin
January 9th, 2003, 03:00 AM
this isn't where we only have to list one is it?

Spybot Search & Destroy
SpywareBlaster
and IE-Spyad!

i wouldn't go surfing without any of them! :)

regards,

snap

Joe
January 9th, 2003, 09:24 AM
-{ Quote: " quoting: Tassie_Devils link=board=20;threadid=5380;start=45#40563 date=1042091180]
Anyhow, it's hi-ho off to work I go .
Won't be back >:( for about 10 hours.

So any more ? Joe, sk or someone in here will be only too pleased to answer for you mate.

Cheers, TAS.
" }-

Thanks for all the help that you people have offered. I think that this must be one of the most helpful forum that I have been to and it is truly appreciated.

No doubt I will be back

Tassie_Devils
January 9th, 2003, 11:11 AM
No worries Joe.

that's what makes the world go round.

Everybody in here, at one time or another, had to learn from scratch and I know that knowledge gained is only as good as given.

Any time you want to know something, just post. Maybe a new thread would be an option, as this one's getting pretty long.

Cheers.

PS: I finally got my shot [I am interested in photography] of a real Tasmanian Devil so I produced an avatar out of it. Pretty happy with it.

sk
January 9th, 2003, 11:46 AM
-{ Quote: " quoting: Tassie_Devils link=board=20;threadid=5380;start=60#40681 date=1042128698]
PS: I finally got my shot [I am interested in photography] of a real Tasmanian Devil so I produced an avatar out of it. Pretty happy with it. " }- WARNING: O/T: ??? It looks like a bear, Taz?

sk
8)

Tassie_Devils
January 9th, 2003, 01:31 PM
Nope:

It's about the size of, say, your groundhog? or australian wombat.

Pound for pound, it's the most ferocious/vicious animal around.

It literally snarls/growls virtually all the time, ever seen any of those cartoons they used to make with bugs bunny and the tas devil.

Extremely powerful jaws, [yeah, like a bear] and can eat anything, bones and all.

edit: Sorry mods, but just showing sk it looks like a bear from neck up, but it's really not that big. Last time on this topic.

sk
January 9th, 2003, 08:03 PM
NOTE: Please see new poll on Tassie's av so this thread can stay on topic. Thanks. :)
sk
BTW - Thanks, Tassie_Devil!

Jkay2
January 12th, 2003, 10:28 AM
-{ Quote: " quoting: Pieter_Arntz link=board=20;threadid=5380;start=45#40414 date=1042039160]
Hi JayK,

Are you referring to the vulnerability in the older versions of the Google Toolbar as described here: http://sec.greymagic.com/adv/gm001-mc/ or is this a new exploit?

Regards,

Pieter
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Maybe it related. I dont know, but the exploit is rather old and most people would have autoupdated the toolbar (espically this indidivual who is a SEO specialist) this is a relatively recent case. I've never heard of a real case in the wild though.