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Shaker
September 14th, 2004, 11:16 PM
I've been running the new NAV 2005 now a couple of days shy of a week. I like it. It runs very nicely. My problem is, I also like Panda Platinum, which I have been running before NAV. Given a choice, all things being equal, which would the experts here chose? No bashing any product please. Just honest opinions.

bigc73542
September 14th, 2004, 11:23 PM
Between the two all issues taken into consideation I would use panda but if their was a third choice I might take it instead of either of the two in question.


bigc

Tassie_Devils
September 15th, 2004, 12:05 AM
{QUOTE-> Between the two all issues taken into consideation I would use panda but if their was a third choice I might take it instead of either of the two in question.
bigc <-QUOTE}

Likewise. :)

Cheers, TAS

richrf
September 15th, 2004, 01:17 AM
I tried out Panda but it hung up my machine. Even hung it up in Safe Mode. NAV seems to be more tolerant of other resident programs. I have BOClean, ZA, SpywarGuard and Ewido running alongside NAV. I had the same problem with KAV that I had with Panda. NAV just gives me more configuraton choices. Others may have different experiences or different configuration needs. It is something that you may want to test out yourself before making a decison.

Rich

jon_fl
September 15th, 2004, 03:09 AM
I tried KAV, NOD, MKS, Command, F-Prot, Bit Defender and just downloaded NAV 2005. I figured that it had a 60 day trial and I'd give it a try. What a pleasant surprise. Install went without a hitch, Live Update updates every 4 hours, or you can schedule it hourly if you like. It is much much faster than NAV 2004. I also noticed that the three AVs that are most consistently ranked in the same place in every test is KAV, McAfee and NAV. All of the other AVs are ranked all over the place from test to test. KAV and McAfee are usually top 3 and NAV usually around 5-7. That was NAV prior to 2005 and I would venture to guess they may move up in the rankings. It seems they have enhanced their worm and trojan detection. I highly recommend it.

Shaker
September 15th, 2004, 03:36 AM
So far it's two for Panda, sort of, and two for NAV. Close race. I know a lot people don't like these type of threads, but I still would like to hear your thoughts.

As far as Panda causing a computer to hang up, I haven't had that problem. Lucky maybe. The only problem I had was with username/password configuration for updates. I would sometimes get a message that my configuration ID was incorrect, when it wasn't.

sard
September 15th, 2004, 04:14 AM
I’ve had problems getting Panda to scan pop3 email with Thunderbird, but that’s an annoyance more than a security risk. Email scanning’s overrated anyway and hardly any AVs support IMAP for some reason.

Slovak
September 15th, 2004, 05:24 AM
Panda gets my vote, I have it running on 5 computers here at the house.

AnthonyG
September 15th, 2004, 06:03 AM
Panda is by far the one id go for, but mcafee enterprise 8 is much better than both put together.

jon_fl
September 15th, 2004, 10:42 AM
Anybody not voting for NAV, have you tried NAV 2005? I ran Perfectdisk after installation and my computer flies with no noticeable drag on my computer like I had with 2004. Aesthetically, 2005 looks better too. I like the stethescope icon when Auto-Protection is enabled. ;)

Hyperion
September 15th, 2004, 05:53 PM
Happy Panda user here too.

Shaker
September 16th, 2004, 02:54 AM
I know I started this thing, and it's interesting to get other's points of view, but I've come to the conclusion to stay with NAV 20005. I'm liking it too much to uninstall it. Thanks to those who participated.

Shaker
September 22nd, 2004, 02:56 AM
{QUOTE-> I know I started this thing, and it's interesting to get other's points of view, but I've come to the conclusion to stay with NAV 20005. I'm liking it too much to uninstall it. Thanks to those who participated. <-QUOTE}



I know this sounds like being fickled on my part, but I'm back to using Panda. I'm not bashing NAV, because I do think it's a nice product, but there were a couple of issues. One, it seemed to slow down my computer at start up and shut down. Because it was something shiney and new, I guess I didn't notice it at first. It just may be my computer. Someone else may not be affected. The second thing had to do with the NAV's updates. I am just too used to the daily updates I get from Panda. I didn't like waiting a week for LiveUpdate. I didn't like having to download them manually at the Symantec site, and I didn't want to make a batch file for them. JMHO. :)

Slovak
September 22nd, 2004, 05:25 AM
Good choice

Shaker
September 23rd, 2004, 02:53 AM
{QUOTE-> Good choice <-QUOTE}


Yeah, I think so too. :)

Sweetie(*)(*)
September 24th, 2004, 06:41 AM
i would use neither, have seen both fail miserably. there are free av that are better and lighter on resources.

panda has failed virusbulliten tests numerous times
norton is a resource hog and there is privacy issues.

Shaker
September 24th, 2004, 06:48 PM
{QUOTE-> i would use neither, have seen both fail miserably. there are free av that are better and lighter on resources.

panda has failed virusbulliten tests numerous times
norton is a resource hog and there is privacy issues. <-QUOTE}



Free AV that are better?? Would you mind naming them and show results of tests?

bigc73542
September 24th, 2004, 06:53 PM
I started useing panda platinum 7 nine days ago and it works flawlessly on my xp computer. It even recognizes it in the sp2 security center. it gives the av and firewall a green light. I have used panda over the past few years off and on but this version seems to work very well. Where as some of the older versions used a lot of resources.

bigc

Rita
September 24th, 2004, 08:24 PM
i have been useing panda for awhile now and really like it and i got full version- free liscence for a year.-i am really satisfied with it.
Rita

bigc73542
September 24th, 2004, 08:30 PM
The free year long liscense did not hurt a bit.

Rita
September 24th, 2004, 08:32 PM
{QUOTE-> The free year long liscense did not hurt a bit. <-QUOTE}
sure didnt,and you get updates every time you get online-so far its been every day.
Rita

Shaker
September 25th, 2004, 03:19 AM
Hi bigc73542 and ritaann. I agree. My Panda Platinum 7 is working flawlessly on my computer also. Just curious. Is your version 7.07.01?

Sweetie(*)(*)
September 25th, 2004, 04:08 AM
{QUOTE-> Free AV that are better?? Would you mind naming them and show results of tests? <-QUOTE}

AVG, Avast, etc

have a look at the vb100% ratings

tuatara
September 25th, 2004, 04:12 AM
Hint:

If you uninstall NAV which i think is a wise decision,
please check your system AFTER that, for all traces that
will remain on your system

Search for 'symantec' and 'live update' etc. in files/folders AND registry.

NAV is not only the AV which has the largest performance impact on your system AND NETWORK CONNECTION (need seperate server for that) ;D but it has certainly the most terrible deinstall program i have EVER seen!

With any luck, you can find a deinstall tool on the Symatec website,
which is for customers which want to install a new version,

but a running into problems because de deinstall of the old version didn't work properly

Rita
September 25th, 2004, 05:46 PM
{QUOTE-> Hi bigc73542 and ritaann. I agree. My Panda Platinum 7 is working flawlessly on my computer also. Just curious. Is your version 7.07.01? <-QUOTE}
Hi Shaker
yes,mine is 7.07.01

Shaker
September 25th, 2004, 09:09 PM
Thanks ritaann.

Rita
September 26th, 2004, 08:26 AM
{QUOTE-> Thanks ritaann. <-QUOTE}
your very welcome shaker

jon_fl
September 26th, 2004, 11:15 AM
I de-installed NAV 2004 on my two computers and had no difficulty at all in their removal. I now have NAV 2005 on both computers. I see no slowdowns, slow boots or any of the problems listed here. 2005 is much better than 2004 IMO. I gave it a try. There was a 60 day return policy. I wanted very much to go to another AV, after reading everybody's opinions, but found NAV 2005 to be very fast and not the resource hog everybody says it is. I trialed several AVS and I liked this version of NAV a lot.

nod32_9
September 26th, 2004, 01:15 PM
You MUST be a novice or a SYMC spy if you see NO performance hit with NAV 2003, 2004, or 2005!

jon_fl
September 26th, 2004, 02:18 PM
Hey nod32_9! If you could read, you would see that I didn't even mention anything about NAV 2003 and 2004, except that I de-installed 2004 and that 2005 was much better IMO. I see a minimal performance hit with NAV 2005. Have you tried it? You MUST be a novice or a NOD32 spy if you comment about a performance hit with NAV 2005, which you've never tried!

bigc73542
September 26th, 2004, 02:55 PM
If the personal attacks don't stop this thread will be closed. There is enough to discuss without having to defame each other. There is just no reason for it.


bigc

jon_fl
September 26th, 2004, 04:36 PM
bigc, I totally agree. I've had several posts here and everyone here has been civil and enlightening. I am here to learn, perhaps share some knowledge or experience and not trade insults. I will not add additional comments about our guest. My mistake was to respond.

bellgamin
September 26th, 2004, 04:46 PM
{QUOTE-> If the personal attacks don't stop this thread will be closed. There is enough to discuss without having to defame each other. There is just no reason for it.
bigc <-QUOTE}
You're right, of course, bigc -- & I do appreciate the job you are doing. But-- sheesh -- you gotta admit that it's kinda funny what jon_fl said. ;D

Back on thread- TWO questions...
#1- Has anyone run one of the Pandas on an older system, where cpu is under (say) 500Mhz? If so, I would like to know if it ran okay (my system is quite decrepit).

#2- Which of the Pandas is just a *basic* antivirus, without a bunch of bells & whistles?

grace & peace to all...... bellgamin

nod32_9
September 26th, 2004, 06:45 PM
Hmmm...fact or fiction?

"I now have NAV 2005 on both computers. I see no slowdowns, slow boots or any of the problems listed here."

I called it like I see it. Enuff said.

bigc73542
September 26th, 2004, 06:50 PM
{QUOTE-> You're right, of course, bigc -- & I do appreciate the job you are doing. But-- sheesh -- you gotta admit that it's kinda funny what jon_fl said. ;D

Back on thread- TWO questions...
#1- Has anyone run one of the Pandas on an older system, where cpu is under (say) 500Mhz? If so, I would like to know if it ran okay (my system is quite decrepit).

#2- Which of the Pandas is just a *basic* antivirus, without a bunch of bells & whistles?

grace & peace to all...... bellgamin <-QUOTE}


I tried panda platinum 6and 7 and titanium on a 500mhz system and it just about brought to a halt. It really slowed it down. I don't think I personally would want to run panda without at least a one gig processor. Titanium is a basic av with no fancy wrapping or whistles.

nod32_9
September 26th, 2004, 07:32 PM
I'd stick with Command, AVG, or Avast Home if I have a sub 500MHz CPU. AVG would be best if the PC has less than 128MB of RAM. If you do porn, P2P, or any type of file sharing, then you should install a very good bug killer like McAfee. It's not the lightest AV, but you can't get great protection without some hit in the performance department.

McAfee 8 is faster than Panda and NAV when tested on my system.

fredra
September 26th, 2004, 07:39 PM
{QUOTE->
Back on thread- TWO questions...
#1- Has anyone run one of the Pandas on an older system, where cpu is under (say) 500Mhz? If so, I would like to know if it ran okay (my system is quite decrepit).

#2- Which of the Pandas is just a *basic* antivirus, without a bunch of bells & whistles?

grace & peace to all...... bellgamin <-QUOTE}
#1 I don't know if this counts, but I am running Panda Internet Security on a AMD 1800+ (1.53GHz). This is my decrepit test box. It runs just fine..so far.

#2 There are three Pandas (as far as I know)
Panda Platinum Internet Security (all the bells and whistles and TruPrevent))
Panda Platinum 7 (basic with firewall).... this you can get of free with 1 yr lic. You can't get TruPrevent with this version.
Panda Titanium (basic with TruPrevent)

I hope that helps.
Cheers :)

Shaker
September 26th, 2004, 10:57 PM
{QUOTE-> You're right, of course, bigc -- & I do appreciate the job you are doing. But-- sheesh -- you gotta admit that it's kinda funny what jon_fl said. ;D

Back on thread- TWO questions...
#1- Has anyone run one of the Pandas on an older system, where cpu is under (say) 500Mhz? If so, I would like to know if it ran okay (my system is quite decrepit).

#2- Which of the Pandas is just a *basic* antivirus, without a bunch of bells & whistles?

grace & peace to all...... bellgamin <-QUOTE}


I run Panda Platinum 7 on a almost 5 year old Gateway 700Mhz/448RAM with no slow downs that I can see. Fredra is correct. Panda Titanium is the basic AV in the Panda line.

Shaker
September 26th, 2004, 11:10 PM
{QUOTE-> #1 I don't know if this counts, but I am running Panda Internet Security on a AMD 1800+ (1.53GHz). This is my decrepit test box. It runs just fine..so far. <-QUOTE}


Hi fredra. Since you are running Panda Internet Security, I'd like to ask you a question. Are you having any problems with the Panda sounds? By that I mean, when you open Panda IS, do you get the Welcome To Panda Antivirus sound? When you close Panda IS, do you get the Thank You For Using Panda Antivirus sound? How about the Starting The Scan and End Of Scan sounds?

I installed the trial version of Pand IS and the sounds worked fine. I re-started my computer, and then opened Panda IS, and there was no Welcome, no Thank You, Start Of Scan, or End Of Scan sounds. All sounds work perfectly in my Panda Platinum 7. Just curious if it has something to do with my computer, or if it's in Panda IS. My OS is XP Home/SP2.

bigc73542
September 26th, 2004, 11:13 PM
go into the settings in panda and make sure that the sounds are enabled. ;)

Shaker
September 26th, 2004, 11:51 PM
{QUOTE-> go into the settings in panda and make sure that the sounds are enabled. ;) <-QUOTE}

Hi bigc. That was the first thing I checked. For some reason all the sounds worked right after the install finished and I first opened Panda IS. When I did a re-start the sounds did not work when I opened or closed Panda. The scan sounds didn't work either. When I went into settings, this is after the re-start, the sounds were enabled. I tried clicking on the test sounds button, and all the sounds came on.

bellgamin
September 27th, 2004, 12:29 AM
Based on what was posted here, Panda wouldn't be so good for my computer. That's disappointing but -- THANKS everyone. You saved me a lot of grief.

bigc73542
September 27th, 2004, 12:32 AM
{QUOTE-> Hi bigc. That was the first thing I checked. For some reason all the sounds worked right after the install finished and I first opened Panda IS. When I did a re-start the sounds did not work when I opened or closed Panda. The scan sounds didn't work either. When I went into settings, this is after the re-start, the sounds were enabled. I tried clicking on the test sounds button, and all the sounds came on. <-QUOTE}


possibly a removal and reinstall would fix it,a lot of trouble but it might help.

Shaker
September 27th, 2004, 01:47 AM
{QUOTE-> possibly a removal and reinstall would fix it,a lot of trouble but it might help. <-QUOTE}



Nope, tried that too. :) It's either a bug in Panda IS or something to do with my computer. I'm hoping fredra returns so I can find out if he is having any problems.

flyrfan111
September 27th, 2004, 08:09 AM
{QUOTE-> Nope, tried that too. :) It's either a bug in Panda IS or something to do with my computer. I'm hoping fredra returns so I can find out if he is having any problems. <-QUOTE}

Panda Platinunm IS doesn't run on my system either. In the last 3 years I have used KAV 4,4.5,5 Panda Platinum 7,F-Secure and NOD and had no problems with any of them ( I only switched trying to find less of a resource hit and a GUI that the wife and kids uderstood as well) but Platinum IS locks up my system and has all kinds of trouble loading drivers. Panda is also rather expensive and only gives returning customers a $10 break on renewal.

fredra
September 27th, 2004, 08:13 AM
{QUOTE-> Nope, tried that too. :) It's either a bug in Panda IS or something to do with my computer. I'm hoping fredra returns so I can find out if he is having any problems. <-QUOTE}
I am back...LOL ;D
Hi Shaker
I will attach some speakers to that box and test it, then let you know...give me a few hours as I am at work at the moment, so as soon as I get home I will test/check and provide the results.

bellgamin
Just an adendum to your original question.
Panda IS does use a lot of resources (memory). I am not sure how much the other two versions use. My laptop is a Pentium II 366 and I have to be careful with what AV I use on that workhorse, so I do understand your concerns.
As this is a NAV/Panda thread I will not change the direction or topic.
I agree with flyrfan...Panda IS on the expensive side.
Cheers :)

Shaker
September 27th, 2004, 02:29 PM
Thanks fredra. There's no rush. :)

jmschwartz
September 27th, 2004, 03:21 PM
I just removed Panda Titanium 2004 from my system and have reinstalled KAV Personal 5.0.149

Panda did slow down my 3.0 GHz HT system (w/1G RAM) while KAV (and NAV 2005, in a separate installation test) did not slow down my system.

As a sidenote, I really liked NAV 2005, too, but consider KAV my "sentimental favorite" (my wife is a Muscovite) ;D .

Regards,
Jim

Shaker
September 27th, 2004, 03:27 PM
{QUOTE-> Panda Platinunm IS doesn't run on my system either. In the last 3 years I have used KAV 4,4.5,5 Panda Platinum 7,F-Secure and NOD and had no problems with any of them ( I only switched trying to find less of a resource hit and a GUI that the wife and kids uderstood as well) but Platinum IS locks up my system and has all kinds of trouble loading drivers. Panda is also rather expensive and only gives returning customers a $10 break on renewal. <-QUOTE}


Well maybe it is Panda IS just not liking my system.

I agree, Panda is rather expensive. Of coarse with Platinum 7 and IS you are getting a firewall along with the AV. Maybe that's their thinking. But renewal fees are too expensive even for that. If it weren't for the free offer of Platinum 7, I'm sure I wouldn't be using it now.

jon_fl
September 27th, 2004, 03:33 PM
Well JM, I'm glad to see that you felt NAV 2005 did not slow down your system either. I tried KAV, and even though I liked it, it slowed my system down a little more than it did for you. Everybody has an opinion on what is the best and fastest AV. With the variety of opinions here, it is quite evident that each computer may respond differently to each AV. All of the suggestions are useful and can be used as a guideline, but the only way you'll ever know what's best for you is to trial it for yourself.

Mongol
October 1st, 2004, 06:19 PM
A heads up on renewals. Someone I work with in technical support who uses Panda Platinum said he got a pretty healthy discount by calling their regional office in Glendale Ca. I guess 6 month license renewals on the web are $39.95 but if you call them direct he got a 1 yr license for $49.95, still a bit pricey but not too bad i'd say. The number is 818-543-6901, hope this eases any concerns a bit... He says he likes it alot and is tweaking my interest in trying it out. ;D

Mr2cents
October 1st, 2004, 09:28 PM
{QUOTE-> Based on what was posted here, Panda wouldn't be so good for my computer. That's disappointing but -- THANKS everyone. You saved me a lot of grief. <-QUOTE}
bellgamin, I don't mean to hijack the thread. I'm running kav antivirus personal 5.0.149 version. I have a 700 mhz processor, 192 mb memory, and running windows me. Kav runs well on my computer. I was using avast!free edition. Kav only uses 4 % more system resources than avast free. My system resources with avast was 87% free. With kav system resources are running 83% free.

I know you were asking about panda, but I really am impressed with kav. You may want to give kav a try. Just a thought.

bigc73542
October 1st, 2004, 09:39 PM
{QUOTE-> A heads up on renewals. Someone I work with in technical support who uses Panda Platinum said he got a pretty healthy discount by calling their regional office in Glendale Ca. I guess 6 month license renewals on the web are $39.95 but if you call them direct he got a 1 yr license for $49.95, still a bit pricey but not too bad i'd say. The number is 818-543-6901, hope this eases any concerns a bit... He says he likes it alot and is tweaking my interest in trying it out. ;D <-QUOTE}


You can still get panda platinium 7 free for a year here free panda (http://www.pandasecurity.com/survey/) just fill out the form and they give you a link to download panda 7 and give you a user name and password.

bigc

Mr2cents
October 1st, 2004, 10:27 PM
{QUOTE-> You can still get panda platinium 7 free for a year here free panda (http://www.pandasecurity.com/survey/) just fill out the form and they give you a link to download panda 7 and give you a user name and password.

bigc <-QUOTE}
bigc, doesn't panda 7 run sygates firewall? I heard that on a forum somewhere. You can't beat free for a year. LOL. The reason I bring up sygate is I used to run there firewall, I really liked it, but sygate just uses to much resources for my system. I know your reply wasn't directed to me. However, I would like to know if it's sygates firewall that panda runs. I'm trialing kav for 30 days right now, but I might try the free panda after the 30 day trial with kav.

Mr2cents
October 1st, 2004, 10:33 PM
Is it possible to disable the firewall in panda platinum? The reason I ask is because I run kerio 2.15. I don't want to run any other firewall. I just love kerio 2.15. It has such a light footprint and is easy on system resources. ;D

bigc73542
October 1st, 2004, 10:39 PM
It is sygate and you can disable it. I don't know if you can delete the firewall but it can be turned off

bigc

Mr2cents
October 1st, 2004, 10:46 PM
{QUOTE-> It is sygate and you can disable it. I don't know if you can delete the firewall but it can be turned off

bigc <-QUOTE}
Thanks for the reply bigc. If things don't work out with kav. I may give panda a try in about 28 days. ;D

Zev0
October 26th, 2004, 07:36 PM
Seems like I've found some Panda gurus. I have a question, when I receive a file from let's say, icq, does panda scan it or do I have to set it up to scan within the icq prefs. And if so, what exe do I point it to for the scan.

flyrfan111
October 30th, 2004, 10:16 PM
Panda scans all files written to the hdd if all ext are selected, and you can also set up icq to scan using the avengine.exe in the panda folder, no command line entries are needed as it will take them from your prefences from scheduled scan section the "scan whole system" profile.

westwind
October 31st, 2004, 04:19 AM
if your compuer is old,panda is better

nav is steady

Shaker
November 1st, 2004, 03:59 PM
I have sent Sweetie(*)(*) a PM asking about a statement he made on the first page of this thread, but have not received an answer yet. So I thought I would ask if anyone might know what he means by privacy issues that NAV has. This was the statement.....

{QUOTE-> norton is a resource hog and there is privacy issues. <-QUOTE}

I know no one can speak for someone else, but I thought someone might be familiar with these privacy issues. I've never heard about this problem with NAV.

I just curious.

AUXHILLARYmikE
November 1st, 2004, 04:28 PM
I HAVE ALWAYS USED PANDA. SINCE DOWNLOADING A TROJAN ABOUT 6 MONTHS AGO CALLED TITAN4. THE ONLY PROGRAMS OUT OF ABOUT 6 AV`S, INCLUDING NAV, THAT COULD FIND IT WAS PANDA AND SOPHOS [GOOD PROGRAM BUT DESIGNED FOR CORPORATE USE, AS YOU NEED TO D/LOAD ZIPPED FILES THAT YOU EXTRACT AND INSTALL YOURSELF, PURGE CHEKSUM AND RE-BOOT!-VERY COMPLEX FOR SOME USERS?]

bigc73542
November 1st, 2004, 04:34 PM
if you keep an eye open you will notice that anytime there is a new piece of malware that comes along panda is one of the first to detect it and have a cure for it.

karll
November 1st, 2004, 04:51 PM
BigC, how stable is the Panda Firewall? Can I trust it enough to use it stand-alone? How about running it with process guard?

Rita
November 1st, 2004, 05:04 PM
bigc
i have the panda firewall too but not activated--using sygate.which,in your opinion is best?could i use both
I could activate panda's firewall--thanks
Rita

flyrfan111
November 1st, 2004, 07:34 PM
The firewall incorparated with Platinum is a version of Sygate free version with a few "extras". If you are using sygate free or sygate pro, Panda won't let you install it. I used to use Panda that way(with firewall disabled, and I ran Sygate Pro).

bigc73542
November 1st, 2004, 07:46 PM
if you are useing sygate you have to remove it before you install the panda firewall which is a modifided version of sygate. I have not had any problems with the panda firewall having conflicts with any app yet. and I have no problems trusting the panda firewall at all. I had nod installed for a while but I removed it today and put panda back in. I just like panda better. And don't try to run any other firewall with the panda firewall they won't play well together. I think that the panda firewall is as good as sygate.

bigc

flyrfan111
November 1st, 2004, 08:54 PM
Yes the Panda firewall is a little better than Sygate free and not quite Sygate Pro. You still have to be careful to change permission for all approved apps as Sygate and thus Panda allow server permission along with client permission. This is my only criticism of Sygate. Also Panda doesn't allow for modification of the time that attacking or scanning IPs are blocked, you can only block them for 10 mins. Pro allows for up to 999,999 seconds (just shy of two weeks) BTW bigc why did you forgo NOD for Panda? Just curious, I prefer NOD to Panda, too stay on topic, you can PM with the answer if you wish. Thanks

Regards

bigc73542
November 1st, 2004, 09:41 PM
I will PM you ;)

flyrfan111
November 1st, 2004, 09:56 PM
Another factor I considered in using Sygate Pro over the version in Panda is that Pro like the latest version of NOD is unkillable and if somehow it is disabled it shuts down your connection. ( if you select the option that is of course)

Sweetie(*)(*)
November 1st, 2004, 10:05 PM
{QUOTE-> I have sent Sweetie(*)(*) a PM asking about a statement he made on the first page of this thread, but have not received an answer yet. So I thought I would ask if anyone might know what he means by privacy issues that NAV has. This was the statement.....



I know no one can speak for someone else, but I thought someone might be familiar with these privacy issues. I've never heard about this problem with NAV.

I just curious. <-QUOTE}


HI, first off im a she, the issues vary depending which version you have.

Info about the user and web habits can be sent back to Symantec, folders files and reg entries left behind after uninstalling that can be hard to get rid of, firewall in NIS isn't as secure as most competitors and can let info be seen by anyone if not properly configured.

The bigest issue i have is with the user prefrences and web/computing habits being monitored by Symantic.

flyrfan111
November 2nd, 2004, 12:00 AM
Just another idea i was thinking of, I don't recommend Sygate or Panda's version of it to anyone that uses proxies,i.e. Proxomitron. In order to have them work properly they need server rights, the problem comes in because Sygate will allow internet apps using Proxo to have the same rights Proxo does for example, you have set IE with client rights and disabled server rights as you should have, the problem comes in because Sygate grants access to IE based on Proxo's settings which are set to server to have it work correctly, thus you would have IE listening also which is a very unsafe proposition to say the least. So people using Panda Plat 7 should NOT use it's incorporated firewall if they use Proxo or any other proxy. Use a firewall that does not handle proxies in this fashion, ie, Zone Alarm, Outpost, Kerio or LnS are not susceptible to this to the best of my knowledge though I am not sure, ZAP is the only other firewall I have used.

Shaker
November 2nd, 2004, 02:26 AM
{QUOTE-> HI, first off im a she, the issues vary depending which version you have.

Info about the user and web habits can be sent back to Symantec, folders files and reg entries left behind after uninstalling that can be hard to get rid of, firewall in NIS isn't as secure as most competitors and can let info be seen by anyone if not properly configured.

The bigest issue i have is with the user prefrences and web/computing habits being monitored by Symantic. <-QUOTE}


First things first. I sincerely appologize for presuming you were a he. Presuming someone is a he because they participate in a forum is not very bright. The little gray cells in this guys brain weren't working too well.

Ok, now I'll say thank you for supplying the information about Symantec. I appreciate it.

Siro
November 9th, 2004, 08:08 AM
I have recently used Norton Internet Security 2005 which includes the 2005 norton antivirus and considering the detection rate i found it to be very good and the scanning time it takes in comparison to leading Av's is pretty less.And surprisingly its the first time that i have found that the norton product isnt a resource hog on my p4 2.0A ghz with 512 Mb DualChannel DDR ram.
I used a trial version of Panda Platinum Internet Security 8.0.5 before installing norton and found it to be an exceptional product with timely updates which are infact everyday like Kaspersky Antivirus Personal 5.0 and its bigger bro Pro 5.The antispam worked like a charm for me with some odd and out problems always occuring and its firewall is a highly robust one which incorporates the Sygate Technologies within it and blocks most of the attacks and gives good outbound protection.I believe the only place where the IS suite was lacking is the antispyware feature it has which needs a little bit of improvement and the Web Filtering also worked pretty well.And Panda isnt a resource hog for me at all and found it to be very user friendly and its antivirus is faster than norton at scanning files or may be equal to it and catches most of the common viruses which are spreading.With heuristics enabled while scanning the harddisk takes a little longer than usual but thats obviously understandable.All in all i prefer the Panda Platinum IS 8.0.5 to Norton or McAfee IS Suites anyday any time.

Siro

Infinity
November 9th, 2004, 09:55 AM
PANDA...

Shaker
November 9th, 2004, 01:06 PM
This may be a little off topic, but it has to do with Panda. I read in the Gladiator Forum, that Panda has it's 2005 versions out.


http://forum.gladiator-antivirus.com/index.php?showtopic=20103

I went to the Panda site to check it out. There was Titanium 2005 and Platinum IS 2005. No more Panda Platinum 7. I guess that's why they had the free offer going. The free offer may not be available for much longer.

Mongol
November 9th, 2004, 02:38 PM
It looks like they now have firewall settings with the Titanium version. Coupled with Tru Prevent it could be a rather interesting combination. I wonder what they mean by "firewall Settings" though ??? . The symptoms pointed to Platinum coming to an end, its been running nicely for me on my desktop ;D