Somethings not right...

[manOFpeace]

Hi, 9 times out of 10 when I click on a link I get the picture below, would this be a site fault or my computer which goes OK other sites.

[Blackspear]

-{ Quote: "Hi, 9 times out of 10 when I click on a link I get the picture below, would this be a site fault or my computer which goes OK other sites." }-
Something missing from your computer, not sure as to what though ???

Sorry to be of no help...

Cheers :)

[GlobalForce]

Hi manOFpeace,

This sounds like something that happened to me.

In internet options, general, accesability, see if your css box is checked, you may have used it for a page print and forgot to disable it.

Clearing this may alleviate the problem...


GF

[manOFpeace]

Thanks Blackspear.

GlobalForce, all 4 boxes were unchecked (not checked). ???

[GlobalForce]

Have you also checked your internet zones mOp?

If you have lots of stuff disabled in the internet zone and that shows at the bottom of the Wilders page (internet globe), you may need to add that to the "trusted sites."

You mentioned other sites are O.K.

See if you can differentiate anything on the screen between a good page, and the Wilders page for clues.

If not, I'm sure someone will jump in...

GF

[GlobalForce]

Oh mOp

I just noticed your screenshot.

Done, but with errors on the page.

This will sometimes happen when jumping somewhere else before the page loads. Maybe a clean shot at refresh, after page load?

Also try the Wilders page with other apps closed (not virus).

This may alert you.

GF

[manOFpeace]

GlobalForce, thankfully the problem seems to have moved on. At this time it is working perfectly.And I haven't a clue as to what it was. Thanks a lot for all the suggestions. ;)

[LowWaterMark]

It'd be interesting to know what the errors on the page are. I believe you can double-click that error icon on the lower left of the IE page and a report of the specific errors will open up.

I've never seen the entire forum index (ie. the main list of all forums and forum sections) go missing on the page before. I have seen images go missing and that's often been cache related - overloaded or corrupted caching of some sort. Clearing the cache and restarting the browser is usually enough to take care of that though. (You may want to make sure you are taking good advantage of caching of images with healthy cache settings in your browser.)

[manOFpeace]

Hi LowWaterMark, The little error icon is not there anymore. That is all I got all last night and up until about now. I do empty the cache many times a day. I don't quite understand your sentence in brackets.
There seemed to be a few times if I used the links on the bottom of the page I could get around that way. :)

[GlobalForce]

Hi again mOp,

What I believe LWM is referring to Is your IE cache.

In IE go tools, internet options, general, settings (in middle right screen), then look at "amount of disc space to use."

If you toy with a lot of images (they eat ram), you may want to increase the file size. Try this, I think this was where LWM was going.

If you experience this problem again, do as LWM suggests, click errors icon,
and save the report.

This may be helpful for others to pinpoint, should the event arise.

GF

[manOFpeace]

Thanks GlobalForce, it's odd that it started when it did, I haven't been doing anything different to other days and not working with images these past couple of days.
Anyway thanks for your time, also other persons. ;)

[GlobalForce]

People here at Wilders, including guests, are either here for help, or to offer it.
The door swings both ways.

Everyone knows a bit about something when it comes to problems.

On behalf of others in this thread, your quite welcome. :) 8)

In the future mOp, if somebody mentions instructions you don't understand,
grab the keywords from the text and check them out in the index (systems help file or IE help).

This may also be a useful link (http://www.theeldergeek.com/index.htm) for reference (search alphabetically).

Don't forget, if this happens again, save a screenshot of the errors (if possible) and post in this same thread. It will probably move back a few pages, but a fresh post will usually revert back to the first page where someone will see it, O.K. ;)

GF

[manOFpeace]

Thanks. :) I notice your link starts with SP2. I am deliberately going to have a go without any MS patches at all. My security should help a long way. I have nothing at the moment on my computer I care too much about so can reinstall XP Home anytime.
I posted elsewhere that I reformatted and reinstalled all my spyware and AV + all other stuff. I finished off with SP1 disk and it completely drove computer crazy, how it escaped crashing, I don't know. I had to pull the wall plug to get it stopped. (Maybe starting with SP1 would have helped.)
Anyway not missing much not having SP2 by the look of things. :o
I also do believe it is slightly faster without SP1 and about 60 patches. ::)

[GlobalForce]

The link is only TO that site.
SP2 just happens to be the main page.

I said :-{ Quote: "This may also be a useful link for Reference." }-
That's ALL.

What you wrote after the first paragraph is being discussed in another forum.

I've enjoyed watching this thread.

If the problem was resolved for now, that's Great! ;D


GF

[manOFpeace]

Good Morning, here is to-days error, I then went to links at bottom of page and got in that way. :)

[GlobalForce]

Back so soon?

This one's beyond my scope at the moment. But I'm sure Mr. LWM will like to have a looksee at it.

I'm not to versed in the field of diagnostics, but this may actually have to do with a "parsing" element
(possibly your system, going back to Blackspears comment, "something missing").

I think LWM or someone else should follow up on this for you, O.K. mOp.
Sorry I don't have the answer... :-\

GF

[GlobalForce]

Just a wild thought mOp.

You could in the meantime search (http://www.google.com/advanced_search) your problem using the keywords of your post.

Just a thought.

GF

[MikeBCda]

-{ Quote: "Good Morning, here is to-days error, I then went to links at bottom of page and got in that way. :)" }-

Weird -- this one will definitely have to wait for LWM, he's the expert at (and does virtually all the work here on) page design and site maintenance.

What it vaguely looks like is a compatibility error between a browser and HMTL coded for a specific browser's "dialect". But LWM is very fastidious about sticking to "generic" HMTL so that any browser can read and display pages here properly.

Hang in there, we'll come up with answers yet. 8)

[manOFpeace]

Thanks GF and MikeBCda. :)

[manOFpeace]

And one more just in case it's of further value. ::)

[GlobalForce]

Thank's for jumping in Mike.

Not the last person I expected, but a nice surprise! ;)

I don't know enough about this to make a call.

Are you paying attention mOp, I know I am. 8)

GF

[LowWaterMark]

I'm afraid I have no specific ideas for you mOp.

I have to suspect that it is something wrong on your system given the specific error you are getting here, ie. Syntax error at Line: 2 Char: 1 - on the main forum index page. If there was a syntax error on the main index page then I'd expect to see everyone getting it. I use IE here and see no error messages.

Also, the error from that other site from your second image... If you are seeing a significant number of parsing errors in IE, across multiple sites, then there must be something else at work.

General suggestions apply: perhaps you need to repair IE; perhaps some web filtering or proxy is getting in the way (maybe from an application on your system if you use such things, or perhaps at your ISP who might be running proxies or cache servers to speed up access, but are somehow corrupting the data stream for you); "spyware" - perhaps there is something on your system, again managing the data stream and interfering with your browsing sessions.

[manOFpeace]

LowWaterMark, not unless this has something to do with AdShield, I had a lot of hassle with it over the weekend. See attachment. When I r/clicked screen to bring up AdShield it presented me with that in attachment. After that AdShield was completely dead. It was OK before reformat but wasn't helpful about being changed over.
It is interesting that if I use the bottom links I can move around WSF OK. :)

[LowWaterMark]

Is AdShield still enabled or did you disable it when it went completely dead?

In any case, that is among the type of applications I was talking about. If AdShield works via either proxy or IE plug-in so that it can scan and filter the HTTP data stream (presumably to remove Ads given the product name) then it certainly could be disrupting these pages.

The filtering out of images from the first image you posted could well be AdShield mistakenly targeting those images as if they were Ads of some type. Or, the images simply may not display because of corruption in the page code itself because of other filtering it is doing.

I took a quick look at http://www.intranetjournal.com/spyware/ (where you got the other errors earlier today) and saw nothing unusual there either. It is a very different type of site than this though, which confirms to me that something local to your system is messing up the data sent between some webservers and your browser.

If AdShield is still enabled maybe you ought to disable it when these errors are happening and restart your browser to see the effect, if any.

[manOFpeace]

Thanks LowWaterMark, AdShield is gone forever, I have given up hope, it was a very useful utility. I have it off my machine altogether. Would it be helpful to reinstall system again? :)
XP Home.

[LowWaterMark]

Well, we certainly can't rule out corruption caused by errors between the last reinstall and when these site problems started. I rarely recommend reinstalls to anyone, though that is certainly an option. Still, it'd be better to determine the source of the problem because "being an unknown" means it could return simply by way of how you are reinstalling and reconfiguring. (It could be caused by an application being added, a tweak you generally do on your systems, configuration changes made by ISP or other install processes... Who can say?)

If we still did HijackThis Logs here, I'd suggest starting there just to rule out spyware as a possible source. Going through the entire scanning, cleaning and review process might turn something up. (You could always try that, perhaps over at ComputerCops or another similar forum.)

Another idea would be to try repairing IE (http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?p=229066) to see what that does.

Are you on dialup? Does you ISP have any of those fancy web accelerator options (you know, "5x the normal web speed of other dialup ISPs")? Those can cause some problems.

[manOFpeace]

Thanks LowWaterMark, HijackThis is as clean as a whistle, I can identify every single item of the 21 listed. ;)
I think I will perhaps give it a few days longer, it is fairly well set up and going well (except for this problem) I will consider repair of IE before anything else if this gets any worse. Most sites seem to be alright. :)
I want to thank yourself and all other helpers for going through this with me. :D

No, no fancy stuff here just as it sits. ::)

[GlobalForce]

Yes mOp,

Digest well LWM's suggestions. Work with adjustments one at a time.
Too many will not allow you to target the problem.

In the thread he gave you, run it down to post #13, Tassie Devils,
and look at method 2.

If you motion to repair IE, this should be the easiest.

LWM, I experienced a problem with my ISP's accelerator, as soon as I
dumped it, lol things were O.K. again. My two cents...

Keep us posted mOp ;) ,

GF
PS mOp, this post written before your's, 5:02

[manOFpeace]

Hello, just to finish with, I done the repair of IE6 and problem still remains. I can live with it for the time being anyway. :)

[LowWaterMark]

Actually, this is very interesting... :D

I was just finishing up for the night (it's now after 6am here) and saw you online, so I did a quick dump of the webserver logs just to see if I could see anything odd (such as error messages, bad links, whatever). And then I looked again at the very first image in the first post of this thread. Well, this is what I noticed...

For testing purposes, I suggest people right-click this and open it in a new window:

Click here to see what mOp has been seeing (http://www.wilderssecurity.com/index.php/forumdisplay.php?f=34)

In that window, I see all the broken images and such as shown in the first post in this thread. Clicking most normal links in that new window moves you around the forum, but stuck in that odd view - missing images, thread lists, etc.

To get out of it, you can 1. simply go into the browser address bar and correct the link, or 2. scroll to the very bottom of the page and click on the "Wilders Security" link in the lower toolbar (next to "Contact Us").

So what is this exactly? Well, look at the links, especially the one from the first screen shot in post #1. Do you see it? It's the wrong link for the forum. It is (spaces added to see it all):

http:// www. wilderssecurity. com/ index.php/ forumdisplay.php?f=34

Notice the 'index.php' followed by 'forumdisplay...'? That's not right. The proper forum display URL is:

http:// www. wilderssecurity. com/ forumdisplay.php?f=34

Now, I have no idea how you are getting into this in the first place. Perhaps you should check your bookmarks and/or favorites to see what link you have stored for this forum. If not a bad stored URL, then something on your system is causing the various links and all to corrupt with that extra "index.php" level.

[GlobalForce]

LWMark,

I see you have put that magnifier to good use. That is strange, unless with that url, that's what someone gets comming in?

This is also the page I see with that link.

Good EYE'S!

GF

[manOFpeace]

Thanks LowWaterMark, I use www.wilderssecurity.com/index.php/ to get to the site and then, that's it, the only stored link I have. But thanks for all your trouble, I will stop now and digest your post. ;)

[LowWaterMark]

Drop the trailing slash! ;)

This is bad: http://www.wilderssecurity.com/index.php/

This is good: http://www.wilderssecurity.com/index.php

[manOFpeace]

Thanks LowWaterMark, that's lookin' better now. It's strange where that last / came from, when I put your link in, the dropdown displayed the proper link as you have it. I must have accidently added it at some stage.
I have a list of regularly used addys and it is entered properly. After my reformat last week I must have stuck that / in when re-entering. ;)
Thanks a million again anyway.

[manOFpeace]

So it looks like that little error is carried right through the duration of my visit to Wilderssecurity.com and carries on mucking up.
It's good to get it sorted, I really dislike it when something (that's anything I have) is not running correctly. :D

[MikeBCda]

I guess I'm rapidly learning that I know absolutely nothing about HTML especially hotlinks. I tried LWM's test and got the "correct" result (i.e., the one with most of the page and most images missing). And I'd always thought that in a case like that, you'd simply get a "page not found" error.

[GlobalForce]

Ahhhhh..... " Mysteries of the Web unveiled here at Wilders."

[manOFpeace]

Hear !! Hear !!

[snapdragin]

-{ Quote: "I see you have put that magnifier to good use." }-
He does use that magnifying glass quite well, doesn't he! :D

;D

[LowWaterMark]

Elementary! my dear Pixel! :D

[snapdragin]

ROFL! Oh no! The Detective Duo!

(if you're gonna wear your hat, you might want it a bit smaller, ahy?) LOL!

;D

[Detox]

Beware the pixel; for he is nicht gut!!!

[LowWaterMark]

:D :D :D

[Valkyri001]

8) LWM!! it would be like soooo cool if the little dogs eyes got as big as the glasses when he/she blinked. 8)
;D ;D ::) Just a thought!

[GlobalForce]

This thread is "outta control!!!" :) :-* :D ;D ;D ;) 8)

Lot's "O" fun too... :-*

GF ;)

[Cochise]

May I suggest Three Cheers for LWM.....and may I also suggest smaller 'Specs'.....BIGGER hat........ ;D ;D and also to change name to LowWaterMarkHolmes, Esq.,...... :-*


Cochise, 8)