The new NOD32

[Paolo Monti]

Hi all,

time to post something about NOD32 :)
Maybe the most NOD32 addicted among you already knows about this news... anyway let's go on.

The Eset team in Bratislava is working flat about the version 2.0 of NOD32. This new version brings REALLY a lot of enhancements. For example, jus to name few of them:

1) the main modules (AMON, Control Center - Updater) will be tightly integrated: one icon only - that one of Control Center - in system tray

2) quarantine and advanced maintenance of antivirus logs

3) quite advanced scheduling of antivirus tasks (scanning, updating, etc.)

4) Internet monitor. The POP3 Scanner will be dropped and replaced by a very sophisticated application (but simple to handle) able to intercept viruses at Winsock level

ciao,
Paolo.

[CARCHARODON]

{QUOTE-> 4) Internet monitor. The POP3 Scanner will be dropped and replaced by a very sophisticated application (but simple to handle) able to intercept viruses at Winsock level <-QUOTE}

Excellent! can't wait.

This is an exciting list of features.

[root]

Hey Paolo, sounds great!
Nice to have you and your product here at Wilders.
Welcome.

[UNICRON]

getting ris of the three icons for just one removes my only complaint about nod32.

[BEASTIEPENDENT]

{QUOTE-> quoting: Paolo Monti link=board=35;threadid=4409;start=0#28769 date=1035552418]
1) the main modules (AMON, Control Center - Updater) will be tightly integrated: one icon only - that one of Control Center - in system tray <-QUOTE}
THAT would be nice! ;)

[wizard]

Sounds very good. :) Any other improvements to NOD32 2.0? Maybe a a heuristic for worms or backdoor trojans?

wizard

[BEASTIEPENDENT]

Tach wizard ;)

Indeed, a better Trojan, backdoor and other malware scanning could even better Nod32... Then it could easily compete with KAV...

[the Tester]

Paolo.An intercept monitor?That would be an excellent addition!Combining the three components is a nice touch also.As a current NOD32 user I really like what I'm hearing from you about future changes!

[CARCHARODON]

I'm wondering if there is a release date set or is it "as soon as we're done"?

[Paul Wilders]

{QUOTE-> quoting: CARCHARODON link=board=35;threadid=4409;start=0#28928 date=1035605963]
I'm wondering if there is a release date set or is it "as soon as we're done"?

<-QUOTE}

It's good practice - for all software - to release a new version as soon as (Beta)tested untill all possible flaws have been ironed out. In this context it wouldn't be a logic or wise decision to set a release date up front. Thus: "as soon as it's ready". ;).

regards.

paul

[Paolo Monti]

{QUOTE-> quoting: CARCHARODON link=board=35;threadid=4409;start=0#28928 date=1035605963]
I'm wondering if there is a release date set or is it "as soon as we're done"?

<-QUOTE}

You know, when software development is involved, usually it's quite difficult to set a release date: MS docet ;D. Anyway, I can tell that the first beta - well, an alpha, actually - hit my desk many months ago. Since then, the Eset team worked hard to sort out bugs, to implement new features and changes required by distributors and to accomplish localization stuff. I think that a public beta (or maybe a final version) will be released within the end of this year.

Then, NOD32 users will be ASTONISHED, believe me. Because, the 2.0 version is *not*, by any means, a simple aesthetic surgery... Eset rewrote NOD32 almost from the scratch. The first ideas about the new NOD32 arose last November, during a sort of "brainstorming" in Bratislava, among Eset developers and NOD32 distributors worldwide. I was there, by the way ;)

ciao,
Paolo.

[Paolo Monti]

{QUOTE-> quoting: wizard link=board=35;threadid=4409;start=0#28847 date=1035581852]
Sounds very good. :) Any other improvements to NOD32 2.0? Maybe a a heuristic for worms or backdoor trojans?
<-QUOTE}

Sure. I was told by Anton Zajac, VP of Eset, that Eset developers are working about a new type of heuristic engine also. We all know very well that since 1999, when Happy99 hit many PCs, the virus writing world has changed dramatically. Now, new HLL worms arise almost everyday and an "assembly based" heuristic analysis is no more sufficient to spot out new threats.

By the way, Richard Marko, one of the engine developers of NOD32, wrote a quite interesting paper about HLL disassembling, regarding viruses written in Visual Basic. He presented the paper at VB 2002. Maybe one of these days the paper will be released to the public. I'll keep you informed.

ciao,
Paolo.

[manxaura]

;D

The changes sound great and I look fwd to the three icon change. I hope that with all the changes that the basic function of NOD32 continues. Very good protection.

I love bells and whistles but would not trade them for the security. for those that mentioned issues with scripts and back doors etc. I think NOD is great at what it doews now and I cover those issues with other programs.kinda like specialising.

So I hope NOD continues with being basicly the best at what it does.

Michael

[Paolo Monti]

{QUOTE-> quoting: manxaura link=board=35;threadid=4409;start=0#29135 date=1035719073]
So I hope NOD continues with being basicly the best at what it does.
<-QUOTE}

You won't be disappointed, believe me :)
In few words, I can say that the new version will fix the quirks in the present NOD32, adding at the same time new powerful features. All of this, with the usual small system footprint.

ciao,
Paolo.

[controler]

Sounds cool ;D

I tried NOD-32 trial a few times and guess I might have mentioned a few things about the program a year or two ago.
Like TDS-3, NOD-32 needed a GUI overhaul and am very happy that is being accomplished. We chant back and forth here about easy to use software. Is it the producers fault or the consumers fault when things go wrong? Yes the consumer needs to be more aware of the lurking dangers but that information is not going to just fall in the laps of your common everyday normal worker who uses the internet. Internet security needs to be brought to the consumer. No I am not talking SPAM either LOL
Yes it would help if the media tried to educate the consumer a bit more. They seem to try a little when a big well known virus hits the streets but really don't say much about the tiny back-doors which can do more damage. We might even be talking national security here today.
I also wanted to touch on another thread about being able to by NOD-32 off the shelf. Yes I did read the explanation suggesting that buying software off the shelf is not good because it becomes out of date before you buy it. I don't think that is a problem in this day and age. yes the software should be readily avaliabe in stores like Circuit City, Office Max, Best Buy, and yes , even Wal-Mart.
Now consumers are getting Fast internet connections and it doesn't take that long to update. I tell everyone that can afford it to kick the 56 K habit and go broadband. Sine life is short , why not make the best of it? Surf with SPEED ;D
I the consumer is saying , I will not prove why one software product is better than the other, the software maker will have to prove to me their product is better and why. ;)
Ease of use ( GUI ) easy on resources ( although the common consumer doesn't know resources from beans ) SPEED, and POWER.
If the software maker works toward those goals , most of us will be happy campers. remember , we have fast computers and fast internet connections these days.
A wise old wealthy father-in-law once told me. The way to his success was to give the consumer more than the consumer thought he or she was getting for their money.
On a final note.....
Is it possible to get a beta copy of the new and upcoming NOD-XX?

Thank You for reading my post

[Jazzgirl]

Glad to hear NOD32 is coming out with a one tray icon version. I also like the idea of protection at the winsock level instead of having to configure POP email accounts for protection. I hope it will be as non-intrusive as the current version though.

Jazzgirl

[Ron_P]

This is going to be a good Q4! NOD v2, Outpost v2, and KPF3. Wish I could sleep for 2 months :)

RP

[Straight Shooter]

Beautiful! Can't wait! I :o :D I really didn't care about the icons, but the email scanner at the winsock level, that's great!

Please keep the program lean and mean! Machine code, I assume?

Also, it may be a good idea to include a link to the Official Nod32 Forum from the home pages of nod32.com and the
other sites, i.e.; www.nod32.com.au so that visitors will know they can get forum support if needed.

Just my 5 cents..

"Shooter"

[jwaves]

Right On! :-*

[Paolo Monti]

{QUOTE-> quoting: controler link=board=35;threadid=4409;start=0#29156 date=1035730392]
I also wanted to touch on another thread about being able to by NOD-32 off the shelf. Yes I did read the explanation suggesting that buying software off the shelf is not good because it becomes out of date before you buy it. I don't think that is a problem in this day and age.
<-QUOTE}

I agree. For example, here in Italy we sell NOD32 in boxes: now we have a number of PC shops selling boxes of NOD32 and we send boxes to our customers as well. But I think that all depends by the market. The organization of the sales concerning boxed software is very expensive in terms of time and resources and I guess that USA is one of the hardest market, very aggressive in terms of rebates, discounts, etc. Probably, Eset is still evaluating the opportunity to have such a sale channel in USA.

{QUOTE->
Is it possible to get a beta copy of the new and upcoming NOD-XX?
<-QUOTE}

Not yet, I'm afraid. Up to now the betas have been released inside the distributors circuit only. The policy of Eset is: don't release anything to the public if we are not sure that it is stable and safe.

ciao,
Paolo.

[rodzilla]

[> Also, it may be a good idea to include a link to the Official Nod32 Forum from the home pages of nod32.com and the other sites, i.e.; www.nod32.com.au so that visitors will know they can get forum support if needed.

There is a link to the forum on http://www.nod32.com.au/nod32/support/support.htm

[Straight Shooter]

;) Aaaahh, Sorry, Rod, I didn't notice. I used to use www.nod32.com because I am from the USA, but lately I've been looking through the australian site, there is more content there, including the link I didn't notice. More free cleaners, too!

[jwaves]

I am happy that there are many users in this forum where we can discuss, help, and also advice NOD32 users about viruses and any questions related to the antivirus issue. I am very pleased to have purchased and used NOD32 since last year. I have used Dr. Solomon, McAfee, Norton, SOPHOS, and PC-Cillin but nothing beats like NOD32. NOD32 has been aggressive in terms of detection, frequently updated, and always simple in terms of using it. I now don't have to waste time trying to figure out which one is the best out of all the AVs. I must admit that adding a link from the main NOD32 sites (US and International) to this forum will be a Big Plus. With the addition of this FORUM, I am pleased that we all can see and discuss about the program. It really stands out from all the antivirus programs out there. Keep up the good work ESET and the Forum Administrator! 8)

[rodzilla]

Thanks for the compliments Jwaves ... and welcome aboard!

NOD32 is well represented here by distributors from all over the world, but a support forum's success is largely dependent on its users, and I'm really pleased to see how this one is taking shape after less than a week online, with several users already offering valuable help and advice. (I noticed an "Old Faithful" from our previous support forum on Becky's is posting here. A big welcome to Mickey the Man!)

The only way to go from here is "UP" !!! :o

[Acadia]

Thinking about purchasing NOD32. There is a page on the Aussie site, http://www.nod32.com.au/nod32/products/95.HTM
that needs fixing. It show three images in a row, when you click to enlarge them, the third image shows you the second image; there is no enlarged image for the third. Thank you.

[rodzilla]

> Thinking about purchasing NOD32. There is a page on the Aussie site, http://www.nod32.com.au/nod32/products/95.HTM
that needs fixing. It show three images in a row, when you click to enlarge them, the third image shows you the second image; there is no enlarged image for the third. Thank you.

Thanks for the heads up Acadia.

Fixed!

[Agent Blue]

{QUOTE-> quoting: Paolo Monti link=board=35;threadid=4409;start=0#28769 date=1035552418]
The Eset team in Bratislava is working flat about the version 2.0 of NOD32. This new version brings REALLY a lot of enhancements.
<-QUOTE}

Yes, we've been hearing about this all year long. How about less talk and more action? You guys are almost as bad as DiamondCS and their "just around the corner" version of TDS-4.

[wizard]

{QUOTE-> quoting: Agent Blue link=board=35;threadid=4409;start=15#30086 date=1036178135]Yes, we've been hearing about this all year long. How about less talk and more action? You guys are almost as bad as DiamondCS and their "just around the corner" version of TDS-4.
<-QUOTE}

It takes some time to write some real good outstanding applications. But it takes even more time to get rid of all the bugs left especially when you remember how many different Windowsversion are still in use (each with several Service Packs).

So I prefer to wait to get some good (and hopefully bugfree) software. What does it bring me to install NOD32 2.0 but it would fail to detect malware because of a too short testing time?

Also NOD32 is in is current version not outdated. It still deals with all actual ITW virus threats.

wizard

[DavidH]

Hi

{QUOTE-> quoting: Paolo Monti link=board=35;threadid=4409;start=0#28769 date=1035552418]
4) Internet monitor. The POP3 Scanner will be dropped and replaced by a very sophisticated application (but simple to handle) able to intercept viruses at Winsock level
<-QUOTE}

What does this statement mean regarding NOD32 V2 compatability with firewalls like Outpost, Kerio, etc. Personally, I use Outpost and I am a little concerned about conflicts between NOD32 and Outpost. I would very much like to continue using both applications. Can anyone provide any informed feedback on whether there is a potential for conflict between the new NOD32 V2 Winsock virus interception and personal firewalls like Outpost or others. Thanks for your time and feedback.

Best Regards,
David

[hayc59]

{QUOTE-> quoting: DavidH link=board=35;threadid=4409;start=15#30099 date=1036182515]
Hi

{QUOTE-> quoting: Paolo Monti link=board=35;threadid=4409;start=0#28769 date=1035552418]
4) Internet monitor. The POP3 Scanner will be dropped and replaced by a very sophisticated application (but simple to handle) able to intercept viruses at Winsock level
<-QUOTE}

What does this statement mean regarding NOD32 V2 compatability with firewalls like Outpost, Kerio, etc. Personally, I use Outpost and I am a little concerned about conflicts between NOD32 and Outpost. I would very much like to continue using both applications. Can anyone provide any informed feedback on whether there is a potential for conflict between the new NOD32 V2 Winsock virus interception and personal firewalls like Outpost or others. Thanks for your time and feedback.

Best Regards,
David
<-QUOTE}

i to use both Nod32 and OutPost. and i will say one thing
if they are not compatable, Nod32 will go before OutPost!!
and when is the new version coming out?? just wondering
some of us were promised beta testing and then forgotten!!

[Straight Shooter]

:o
I've been using NOD32 and Outpost Pro now for over 6 months now. Never had any compatibility problems. However, if any do arise in the future, I trust NOD32 too much to let it go. Let's just wait to see if their will be any problems before we start trying to solve problems that don't even exist!

[Paul Wilders]

David,

{QUOTE-> I use Outpost and I am a little concerned about conflicts between NOD32 and Outpost. I would very much like to continue using both applications. Can anyone provide any informed feedback on whether there is a potential for conflict between the new NOD32 V2 Winsock virus interception and personal firewalls like Outpost or others. Thanks for your time and feedback. <-QUOTE}

It's somewhat premature to be concerned about possible software conflicts in regard to a newly build that hasn't been finished yet.

Be assured, Eset will not release conflictious software - users nor Eset would benefit from that ;).

regards.

paul

[DavidH]

Hi Paul,

First, thank you all for your replies. :)

Please understand that I tried to be as careful as possible in how I worded my post. I only wanted to express "concern" for a "potential issue". I am sure that all possible will be done to make sure the release is successful. I am more patient than most and have a great appreciation for a company that will take the time they need to get their product as prepared as possible. That is why I use Outpost, NOD32, and TDS. The primary motivation for my post was just to gather information and see if Eset had anything to say about my "concern". I NEVER jump to conclusions or make premature determinations that problems exist so I hope that nobody concluded that from my first post. I would like to get off to a good start in this forum. I am optimistic that no problems will exist. I just wanted to check and see what feedback I received on this question. Thank you for your time and feedback. I greatly appreciate it. :)

Best Regards,
David

[Paul Wilders]

David,

Sounds perfectly reasonable to me (nice combo you have installed, btw :) ). Concerned but open minded software users are an asset IMHO; those are the ones keeping software designers alert. Thanks for contributing, hope to see you over here often and - last but not least: welcome!

regards.

paul

[Paolo Monti]

Hi David,

{QUOTE-> quoting: DavidH link=board=35;threadid=4409;start=15#30099 date=1036182515]
What does this statement mean regarding NOD32 V2 compatability with firewalls like Outpost, Kerio, etc. Personally, I use Outpost and I am a little concerned about conflicts between NOD32 and Outpost.
<-QUOTE}

I don't think that NOD32 users should worry very much about this issue, since Outpost and the new NOD32 IMON (Internet Monitor) work at two completely different layers: the former intercepts Internet traffic at TDI (Transport Data Interface), the latter works at a much higher layer, probably in "user mode" at Winsock level. I don't have yet the most "bloody" technical details but I'm pretty sure to be right.
Anyway, be assured that I personally will check out any possible incompatibility issue... because my company is also the official distributor of Outpost for Italy ;)

ciao,
Paolo.

[root]

{QUOTE-> because my company is also the official distributor of Outpost for Italy <-QUOTE}
Hey Paolo, you show very good taste! ;D

[Paolo Monti]

{QUOTE-> quoting: root link=board=35;threadid=4409;start=30#30210 date=1036252504]
{QUOTE-> because my company is also the official distributor of Outpost for Italy <-QUOTE}
Hey Paolo, you show very good taste! ;D
<-QUOTE}

;D ;D ;D
Well, just to say a little bit more about me: many years ago, in a galaxy far far away, I was also the first distributor outside Russian federation of AntiViral toolkit Pro (AVP), the former Kaspersky Antivirus. Besides NOD32, KAV is the only antivirus which deserves my most deep respect. In that period, Kaspersky Labs didn't exist yet, the group of AV Russian developers was composed by 3 programmers only: Eugene Kaspersky, Vadim Bogdanov and Alexey De Mont De Rique. And when the first Back Orifice and Netbus came on the scene, I suggested to Eugene to add a new database: backdoor.avc, dedicated to catch new backdoor. Good, old days ;)

ciao,
Paolo.

[Psihiatru]

will be Nod32 2.0 bigger slower like KAV or like it ? :-\

[Paul Wilders]

{QUOTE-> quoting: Psihiatru link=board=35;threadid=4409;start=30#32814 date=1037777065]
will be Nod32 2.0 bigger slower like KAV or like it ? :-\
<-QUOTE}

I'm not sure what you mean by "bigger" and "slower". Fact is the actual NOD32 is blazing fast - and the upcoming version 2.0 will keep this high standard.

regards.

paul

[Straight Shooter]

:) If ESET can make the upcoming version of NOD32 with email scanning at the winsock level, with unparelleled scanning speed and detection, a virus quarantee area, small footprint, using low system resources, and other tidbits, then truly they have shown the whole anti virul industry how it SHOULD be done! I don't have any worries or concern, I'll just wait until I see it! Oh, ...

It's not the kill, it's the thrill of the chase!!!

I think a lot of people are getting impatient, knowing the "perfect AntiVirus App", is coming just around the corner soon!!!!!

Let's rub the dirt in CNET's face when this new version is finally released!!!

[tempnexus]

Will the Nod32 v.2 be a free update?
I recall AntiVirusToolKit Pro, boy I used to use it and consider it as a number one AV, then I think the US distributor of the software...centralcommand (I think) decided to release it's own AV software (very simillar to BitDefender or maybe it was bitdefender) and now they released Vexira...the crappy thing about Vexira is that you have to reboot after every update (kinda sucks if one runs a server).
Also I am seeing that many individuals here are using Outpost Firewall can you please enlighten me what's the difference between outpost and Sygate Firewall Pro? (sorry to barge in onto a thread like that).

Thank You Very much for all and any answers.

[Paul Wilders]

tempnexus,

Have a look at the FAQ (http://www.nod32.com/scriptless/support/ans/1d.htm) as for updates are concerned.

{QUOTE-> Also I am seeing that many individuals here are using Outpost Firewall can you please enlighten me what's the difference between outpost and Sygate Firewall Pro? (sorry to barge in onto a thread like that). <-QUOTE}

No problem - but please open a new thread on our Firewall forum for this issue ;).

regards.

paul

[jan]

Hey tempnexus,
{QUOTE->
Will the Nod32 v.2 be a free update?
<-QUOTE}

I have been told that the Nod32 v.2 for a workstation will be a free update.

rgds, :D

jan

[jan]

By the way - a note to the new NOD32 release:

we don't want to strictly keep the exact date and launch a version which would have too many bugs - sorry for that - that version is based mainly on YOURS (user's) feedback (we have chosen what we found reasonable too) - and we want to make YOU more satisfied. I have been told that beginning of the next year could be a reasonable date for the release - pls. be patient - it can repay - the Nod32 v.2 for a workstation will be a free update :)

rgds,

jan