doubleclick cookies

[tj]

I've been getting doubleclick.net cookies accepted in spite of using Cookie Pal. Until today, I hadn't worked out which site was planting them. I was somewhat amazed to find out it was Amex. I'm certainly exceedingly concerned that Amex allow a 3rd Party marketing company to track activities on a what should be a very private web site, esp. one that is used for managing accounts. No doubt Amex will say that it doesn't allow Doubleclick to collect data from the secure area, but I for one won't be using the web to manage that account in future!

[FanJ]

Hi,

Try using HOSTS from Steve Martin:

http://www.smartin-designs.com/

Or Zeroclick (0click2):

http://www.nsclean.com/0click.html

[whmueller]

tj,
I also use CookiePal and the AMex site to manage my account. And I don't have any doubleclick cookies. I just verified this by going to Amex and afterwards checking CookiePal's session tab (& Cookies) and see nothing about doubleclick.
Afraid you appear to have some more checking to do, as it doesn't seem Amex is doing this.
Bill

[Krusty]

Damn......I´ve been very pedant to keep out hostile cookies.....now I checked my cookies and there they were ! All of them ! :-[ doubleclick...fastclick...etc etc....I configured IE 6 settings now, hoping they keep out now on. Weird thing, secure level was as "normal" and they did not appear ´till now.....damn damn......
I also use "Adaware" feature constantly.
-Ari-

[Detox]

Doesn't IESPYAD stop that crap from getting on your puter altogether?

Admittedly I'm not sure what's blocking them for me, Proxo or SPYAD, but my Spybot and Ad-Aware come up clean all the time now and my Zeroclick has nothing to do

*strut*

[snowy]

Krusty

CookieMuncher does a real good job of controling cookies


you may want to consider cleaning your indexDat file also......to remove those cookies...(not otherwise removed)


snowman

[snowy]

on a personal note:

having tryed many cookie managers over the years...as yet I have not found one that controls "every type" of cookie.........which is why I consider cleaning the indexdat file a priority........


snowman

[Krusty]

Thanx Snowman, I´ll try "CookieMuncher" !
:)
- Ari-

[root]

Opera's cookie handling is awsome!
Try it, you'll like it. ;D

[Krusty]

GRR 8 !

Ok it´s munching now....But where the heck is wilders cookie ? I thought this need to be saved, not munched. Btw, I got problems to get back on this forum ´coz I increased secure level of netbrowsing. So I changed it back to " normal". It gave me everytime warning :2: mysql_fetch_array(): supplied argument is not a valid MySQL result resource
(/home/wilderss/public_html/Sources/BoardIndex.php ln 161)

::)


Alrighty , I got it I got it ! I saved this sites address on the browsers settings ! GRR 8 !

[snowy]

Krusty

please excuse my delay to reply....was away for awhile.


1) cookiemuncher eats the cookie..BUT you can login to any website as you normally would......cause cookiemuncher works in such a way that its the same results except the cookie does not get into the hard drive.........cookie gone. ( keeping the explanation simple)


2) For most of today I was getting the same error message when trying to access the forum........it seems to have cleared on its own.......actually I also received another message...> NO RESPONSE RECEIVED<

by the way.....did you noticed refer to index dat file.....if you don't have a program that cleans that file....consider requesting info on one from other members who have the same os......

respectfully

snowman

[snowman]

Krusty

Out friend Root made a great suggestion the Op broswer is all around a good product.........unfortunately I am not able to use it.......for both business and technical reasons........otherwise I would in a second.


snowman

[Krusty]

AWWWWWW **** >:( so it wasn´t MY error message ....lmao And I worked hard for finding out what is going on with cookies LOL. And I found many websites telling me about MySQL......
Now it is alrighty

Thanx Snow

(and I removed all " cookie saved addresses" from the settings )

[snowman]

Krusty

just covering your back so please excuse my re-asking if you cleaned the index dat file.......not just the setting addresses. otherwise.....anyone can open the index dat file an there is every where you ever been.....plus....cookies stick there like glue.......you can't clean that file just using the settings in IE.......if you already know this please excuse continued mention.

snowman

[Krusty]

Cleaning the Index file yeah ? Not deleting all of it ? I opened it up on notepad, and I cleaned it empty. Does that make any sense at all ???

Snowman, I consider all advices are welcome, no need to apologize ;)
I use to help people who doesn´t know much, if I am able to.
Many Thanx.

-Ari-

[eyespy]

Krusty,
Internet Sweeper will clean those "history.dat, cookies.dat, and index.dat" files. As well as other files.
You can get it at "Wilders free tools" page.
Window Washer, Clean Disk Security, and JV 16 are other tools for cleaning those dat. files. !!
Of course their are many others, but I've used these and they work well !! :)

regards,
bill ;)

[snowy]

Krusty

as I understand it the index Dat file can not be opened with notepad.......if I am mistaken please somene correct me...........in fact....I am not sure that the file can be opened by normal means at all....but requires a program made for that particular purpose.........not sure but maybe IESWEEPER is one such program...there are others

snowman

* logged out by board**

[Krusty]

Snow

Almost anything can be opened on notepad, if file is too big, it can be opened on wordpad. But I prefer bottle opener better for my beer bottles :)

-Ari-

[snowman]

Krusty

well you definitely have enlighten me...until now I thought the index dat could not be cleaned that way......tomorrow I'll give that a try......

much thanks

snowman

[Krusty]

Hello Eyespy

I have been using "Internet Sweeper" long time, that´s a goodware ! I just have swept trash occasionally, maybe ´coz no one else uses this machine, I hope lol. But those cookies made me thinking twice and now is all on index.dat ... ok grr 8 ;D

many thanx -Ari

[FanJ]

-{ Quote: " quoting: Detox link=board=21;threadid=4040;start=0#30714 date=1036608227]
Doesn't IESPYAD stop that crap from getting on your puter altogether?

" }-

Yep, you're right Detox (at least for Internet Explorer users).

I'm using Hosts (from S.Martin), IE-SPYAD, AdShield (at the moment), and IEClean for cleaning index.dat and lots of other things that IEClean does for you (I certainly don't want to be seen as a walking advertisement for IEClean, but it is such a nice program!).

[Krusty]

FanJ

Thanx , I try "Ie Cleaner" now. I have "Internet Sweeper" but it doesn´t sweep index file :-\ And an old "Clean Up" works too, not sure about index....yet.

best wishes -Ari

[pin]

krusty, why not just put wilders on the trusted list? that way you can keep things at high security.

[Krusty]

Pin
I have already done that way and it was not this site making me concerned but all the way other sites though.

I keep on receiving cookies on "temporary internet files" folder, I wonder how is that ? they are "everywhere" :-\
I even tried to run "Cookie Muncher" tripled. It can be done for short, then it starts going wild lol
Ari

[pin]

that is truly weird!

i use cookiewall. it works great.

[Detox]

Hmm... Internet Sweeper DOES clean the index.dat file, but to do this you have to set it to restart your computer to delete files in use.

[Krusty]

Detox
I realized that ok ;) thanx, it might be the same with other cleaning tools I think.

[Vietnam Vet]

Hello everyone, Apparently Internet Sweeper works on some computers, but not all. Running Win98SE, IE6.0SP1 here, sweeper does not work for me as far as cleaning index.dat as comparing file size shows no change. Run a search here on the forum and you will see other people also have problems. I use xcleaner and it reduces the size everytime, also after reboot. Curiously, when I installed the 1.8.4 version of IS it worked 2 out of the first 3 tries, and has not cleaned index.dat since! As near as I can tell, it does everything else as advertised. Wish I knew why because I would prefer to use IS only. Just my observations for anyone interested.

[Detox]

And you do have "delete files that are in use when windows restarts" checked? I'm not trying to be mean or a smartass, just being sure, because it really took me forever to figure out that would clean the index.dat file... It seems to always totally delete the file for me, I use the old 1.8.1 version...

[Vietnam Vet]

Hi Detox, yes I do check that option when trying to clean index.dat and with 1.8.3 version, it would work once in a while. Tried again last night with 1.8.4-no joy. :'( Maybe I will revert back to the version you are using and see what happens. Any advice and help offered is always appreciated. We all may need help every now and then, especially me! :) Thanks for being willing.

[Detox]

Hey no prob for sure; I'll start checking my cookies folder after using IESweeper and see if it's really doing it every time or not...

[Ghost]

Krusty - This is from the cookiem.txt that comes with Cookie Muncher:

"PLEASE READ THIS..... FAQ

I get many questions asking about the cookies in the
temporary internet files folder. These are NOT cookies.
They are pointers to the cookies in the cookies folder.
Similer to shortcuts. Cookies are deleted by cookie muncher.
They do nothing once the cookie has been deleted and will
be removed by normal cache cleanup operations, or can be deleted
by you using windows explorer. (See Below)"

You can read the rest, the point here is that what you're seeing in the Temp Internet folder isn't the cookies (which CM deletes a half-second after their arrival) - it's the cookie pointers , which can't do anything.

You can easily verify this by checking C/Windows/Cookies (for IE).

[Detox]

Well I chcked a few times and the file isn't gone like I THOUGHT I remembered but it is 32k each time... So far :-)

[Krusty]

Ghost

Got it !
I started using "Opera" and studying how to use it. Hmmm. Can´t get hotmail yet, Opera cookies enabled....still negative.

Have a nice saturday -Ari

[Vietnam Vet]

-{ Quote: " quoting: Detox link=board=21;threadid=4040;start=30#32282 date=1037469468]
Well I chcked a few times and the file isn't gone like I THOUGHT I remembered but it is 32k each time... So far :-)
" }- Hi Detox, just to clarify to make sure we are on the same page, index.dat in the cookie folder stays at 32k as I don't accept ANY new cookies. I keep 7 cookies which accounts for this size. If I delete these cookies and clean index.dat file will be reduced to 16kb. Cannot remember if sweeper cleaned this file for sure or not, will recheck if I ever get caught up again. File my problem is with is in C:\WINDOWS\Local Settings\Temporary Internet Files\Content.IE5. This file will reduce to 32k when cleaned with x-cleaner, but does not change in size when cleaned with internet sweeper (176kb presently). This file is only visible on my system by searching, highlighting, and opening the containing folder. If you just open the folder, the file is not visible. Could this have some bearing on IS's inability to clean index.dat? By the way, I have not had a chance to retry older version of IS yet, but it is still on the agenda. Need more hours in the day, know of any software to fix that? :-\

[CrazyM]

Another option for IE6 users to handle cookies using the privacy option and trusted sites that I have found very effective is a Custom XML Import File.

For more details: http://www.staff.uiuc.edu/~ehowes/main.htm

You will find particulars under IE6 Tools.

A good one to start with is the 4d-s file from the short list while you explore the multitude of other options.

[Pretender]

why not just block doubleclick.net and doubleclick.com in the IE internet option's privacy area?

[Detox]

Vet...

Hmm in my Windows/Localsettings there is only one folder, and that is "application data"

is this the saem spot you are looking at?

I am also supposed to have some cookies saved (like this forum) but it doesn't work, I still hafta login each time, but I don't mind so never looked any closer...

[Vietnam Vet]

Same spot, yes, and I have that folder as well. In the, for lack of a better description, normal temporary internet files folder nothing shows except a folder identified as content.ie5 and a desktop.ini file. Inside the content.ie5 folder there is another desktop.ini file(different size). If I recall correctly, there used to be 4 folders identified by several letters , none of which actually spell anything. After running IS for the first time, after a reformat for instance, do not see these folders again. Never any temporary internet files in the temporary internet files folder either. Also used to be an index.dat there also, which goes at the IS scan as well. The following appears in a startup list scan C:\WINDOWS\WININIT.BAK listing:
(Created 16/11/2002, 0:57:40)

[Rename]
NUL=C:\WINDOWS\LOCALS~1\TEMPOR~1\CONTENT.IE5\INDEX.DAT
NUL=C:\WINDOWS\LOCALS~1\TEMPOR~1\CONTENT.IE5\INDEX.DAT Is this all connected to IS's inability to clean the index.dat? I will leave that up to someone with more experience than I have.

[Detox]

Hmm I'll look again in the morning cause I'm tired and on my way to bed now, but I don't think I have any of these files you are mentioning really; other than the "regular" temp internet files folder.. What version of IE do you have? 5.0? or 5.5?

I'm afraid I'm no expert on IS really either; if nothing comes up to help you answer your question here it may be wise to make a thread in the IS section of the forum.

[Vietnam Vet]

Running IE6.0SP1. I think those other folders started appearing with IE5.5, but do not really recall for sure. Remember reading about them somewhere. Hey, this is not a problem to lose sleep over. Just asked in case someone had experienced this and knew why. Appreciate you taking the time to help. By the way, Is did clean index.dat last night. ??? I still try it occasionally. Anyway thanks again.

[Detox]

Hehe not losing sleep I just checked the forum pretty late last night ;-)

Sure don't understand why you have these ie5 folders though...
I use 5.5 and can't find them on my machine!

[Ghost]

VV - Can you verify whether you are running xxx.bat, found here: http://www.markusjansson.net/eienbid.html (look for eng.exe under the "Solving the Index.dat files dilemma" heading).

If you're not, try it out and please let us know the results.

[Ghost]

Also, can you confirm for me that W98 does/doesn't have 'Active Desktop', because I know that when you start switching between DeskTop view modes, files start getting placed in new locations.

(Can't find the M$ reference to that right now, maybe someone else can - I do know that I had the issue myself a long time ago (CookieMuncher quit working properly) and that it was absolute hell to get it figured out and corrected until i found out about the above location-switch with the funny file names).

[Vietnam Vet]

-{ Quote: " quoting: Ghost link=board=21;threadid=4040;start=30#32615 date=1037639430]
VV - Can you verify whether you are running xxx.bat, found here: http://www.markusjansson.net/eienbid.html (look for eng.exe under the "Solving the Index.dat files dilemma" heading).

If you're not, try it out and please let us know the results.
" }- Hi Ghost, checked out the link, and unless I misunderstand, this app will delete my cookies as well and I really don't want to do that. Sometimes a week or more before getting back to some of the sites I frequent and without the cookie in place, it gets a little aggravating trying to pick up where I left off. Is there a particular reason you wanted me to try this? As I stated x-cleaner will clean index.dat for me. Thought maybe there is something else you are trying to check other than being able to clean these files. While on that site, read about disabling the netbios. Renamed vnbt.386 as instructed and all seems well. Before this, in TDS3's netstat screen it would show 137,138.139 listening but never connecting. They do not show up now. At the shieldsup check, zonealarm always did it's job as well as with these apparently unending probes at 137 going on. Any comments on this as to why or why not I should rename vnbt.386. As to active desktop, yes win98se does have this and it stays on always. To the best of my knowledge, no probs with files getting moved around. If you are referring to the wierd named folders in temporary internet files folder and the local settings folder being where my temp internet files are stored, do a google and you will see that I am not alone in this respect. I know what you are saying and maybe active desktop is causing my problem, but if IS being unable to clean index.dat is the only side effect, I will live with that. Thanks for the info and any future knowledge you may have to share.

[Vietnam Vet]

Totally off topic: Why do my posts look so out of whack as compared to most others? :'( Looks fine when I am typing, but after posting, well you can see what I mean. Anyone tell this rookie what he is doing wrong? :-[

[LowWaterMark]

Hi Vietnam_Vet,

It looks like your posts have a large number of spaces where you seem to want to create a new paragraph. Are you using some special tools to compose the posts or are you actually using spaces instead of hitting the Enter key to start a new line?

The size of the composing window is of course different than how the message is displayed, so they can look different when you post them.

[Vietnam Vet]

Now it doesn't get much simpler than that!

Guess you know the answer to your question already, LowWaterMark, thanks.

While I have been lurking around this and other forums for quite some time, never posted much. What can I say, just didn't know.

[LowWaterMark]

No worries. :D

And, we're glad to have you posting. Thanks for contributing!!

Best Wishes,
LowWaterMark

[Vietnam Vet]

http://www.forrestandassociates.co.uk/pcforrest/deltemps_bat.html

About a 1/4 of the way down the page is a picture which shows what I am talking about in reference to the 4 subfolders.

[FanJ]

-{ Quote: " quoting: VIETNAM_VET link=board=21;threadid=4040;start=30#32659 date=1037669228]
While on that site, read about disabling the netbios. Renamed vnbt.386 as instructed and all seems well. Before this, in TDS3's netstat screen it would show 137,138.139 listening but never connecting. They do not show up now. At the shieldsup check, zonealarm always did it's job as well as with these apparently unending probes at 137 going on. Any comments on this as to why or why not I should rename vnbt.386. " }-

Not exactly an explanation ( ;)):

http://grc.com/faq-shieldsup.htm

Quoting Steve Gibson:
[hr]
Q:
What happened to the free NoShare and LetShare utilities? They were on this site for a while, then they disappeared and the versions I had have now "expired". They worked great, so why are they gone?

A:
NoShare and LetShare were terrific solutions for quickly, easily, and reversibly disabling and enabling NetBIOS resource sharing. But they required more technical support than we were able to provide. With this site's traffic being as high as it is, so many thousands of copies were being downloaded every day that even a low percentage of people who wanted to know "how to install it" (you don't) or how to remove it (just delete it) or where it went in their computer after they downloaded it (how should we know????) that the responsibility of supporting a "code solution" was too much. Also, many people don't like running random executable programs (especially people who don't know me and the way I author programs.)

So, when I figured out how to use network binding to achieve the same results I joyfully discontinued offering NoShare and LetShare . . . and the technical support questions died down almost immediately. If you really want to use them, those links above will get you new, non-expired, versions. But we will not answer eMail about them . . . okay?

[Vietnam Vet]

Hi FanJ, Thanks for the link. I downloaded both Noshare and Letshare utilities, renamed vnbt.386 back, then ran the Noshare utility. It renames that file, but I was wondering what else it does, if anything, if you know. Long time ago, after running Shieldsup, using Zone Alarm, it showed stealth on those ports and I thought they were disabled, because I do not have any file sharing or printer sharing enabled. Looking back, I guess ZA was just doing it's job. After finally escaping from AOL's spy service a couple of months ago, I switched to Earthlink. Do not use their software, just set up an account, created dialup connection to their service, and after connecting is when I noticed the aforementioned ports always listening, but never connecting(ZA again?) I guess. Hopefully, now I am a little safer than before. Appreciate the help.

[Paragon]

Note, there should never be any connections showing up on ports 137, 138, or 139. These are reserved for NetBIOS which is a connectionless protocol. It uses UDP ports 137, 138, and 139. If a connection is showing up on one of those ports it is using a TCP port, which would mean it's not NetBIOS and shouldn't be on that port. That would warrant some investigating.

[Paragon]

Another thing, I don't know if this has been said before (I haven't read all 4 pages), but DoubleClick has a page to set an "OptOut" cookie so you don't recieve any more DoubleClick cookies, and Ad-Aware is aware of this cookie (the updated version of Ad-Aware anyway).