Now, Let's talk some Golf!

[Dazed_and_Confused]

How about that Retief Goosen? Very nice use of the putter today. Although I have to admit I was pulling for Phil. :-* :-* :-*

[ronjor]

-{ Quote: "How about that Retief Goosen? Very nice use of the putter today. Although I have to admit I was pulling for Phil. :-* :-* :-*" }-


I was pulling for Mickelson too. Those scores were out of sight! Only two people under par.

[Dazed_and_Confused]

-{ Quote: "I was pulling for Mickelson too. Those scores were out of sight! Only two people under par." }-
Yes. Lots of wind and fast greens. Didn't look like a typical US course. Reminded me of courses you might see in the British Open.

[ronjor]

-{ Quote: "Yes. Lots of wind and fast greens. Didn't look like a typical US course. Reminded me of courses you might see in the British Open." }-


Tiger didn't like it. Not like him to complain. (http://sports.yahoo.golfserv.com/gdc/news/article.asp?id=24188)

[Dazed_and_Confused]

-{ Quote: "Tiger didn't like it. Not like him to complain. (http://sports.yahoo.golfserv.com/gdc/news/article.asp?id=24188)" }-
He hasn't been playing too well, lately. I saw the give and take between him and his previous coach. Getting a little sensitive as of late. I'm just glad Phil is finally playing better.

[ronjor]

-{ Quote: "He hasn't been playing too well, lately. I saw the give and take between him and his previous coach. Getting a little sensitive as of late. I'm just glad Phil is finally playing better." }-

Hard to believe Mickelson is right handed. He learned to play from his dad and his dad's
movements (http://www.phil-mickelson.com/x12.asp)

[ssgtmax]

-{ Quote: "How about that Retief Goosen? Very nice use of the putter today. Although I have to admit I was pulling for Phil. :-* :-* :-*" }-

Nerves of steel & the guts of a burglar. Made putts from everywhere but the clubhouse....something like 30 one-putts in 4 rounds played on greens that make putting on one's concrete driveway seem slow.

I've always pulled for Lefty because over the years when he was being badgered by the press about disappointments & "chokes", he was invariably affable and accommodating - no easy task when one has just seen another tournament slip away.

I think the game of golf & all golf fans were the big winners. Like Palmer needed Nickalus and Ali needed Frazier, Tiger has needed to have someone take him on. They have. Game on!

Last add: how is it that the golf gods, who are ever vigilant about rules and would never allow a player to improve his lie, suddenly decided it was OK to water that nightmarish 7th green between each group of players that came through? Sounds like "improvement" to me.... ???

[Dazed_and_Confused]

-{ Quote: "Last add: how is it that the golf gods, who are ever vigilant about rules and would never allow a player to improve his lie, suddenly decided it was OK to water that nightmarish 7th green between each group of players that came through? Sounds like "improvement" to me.... ???" }-
I missed that. What happened? I only saw the back nine.

[ronjor]

-{ Quote: "

Last add: how is it that the golf gods, who are ever vigilant about rules and would never allow a player to improve his lie, suddenly decided it was OK to water that nightmarish 7th green between each group of players that came through? Sounds like "improvement" to me.... ???" }-

Okay. Uh, let's see. Humm. Let me get back to you on that.;D

[Dazed_and_Confused]

-{ Quote: "Okay. Uh, let's see. Humm. Let me get back to you on that.;D" }-
I just read a news story. Apparently they watered the green for only a select number of golfers? Is that what your talking about? Doesn't sound fair to me.

[ronjor]

-{ Quote: "I just read a news story. Apparently they watered the green for only a select number of golfers? Is that what your talking about? Doesn't sound fair to me." }-

I think what it boils down to is they didn't prepare the course for the tournament very well. Although to me, fair for one should be fair for all.

[ssgtmax]

-{ Quote: "I missed that. What happened? I only saw the back nine." }-

If you saw the 7th green @ all during the tournament (a 183-yd hole designed by Satan), you probably saw the TV diagrams they showed. It sloped away from the cup in every maddening direction possible. The green was rapidly turning to a "brown" with each passing hour and was the consistency of the carpet on a miniature golf course. Something on the order of just 20-30% of the golfers were able to land their tee shot on it & keep it there. That's just unheard of for professional golfers.

In a desperate attempt literally to save the green from being killed completely and to turn the hole into something even close to a fair test of golf skill, tournament officials allowed the greenskeepers to water it with hoses after each group had putted out. Other than normal maintenance/mowing, it's almost heresy to tamper with a course once competition has begun, especially during a round and on a U.S. Open Course. The USGA runs that tournament, and they are absolute sticklers about rules and tradition. They were faced with an almost untenable choice in this case.

I'm reminded that Craig Stadler once lost a San Diego Open because he knelt on a towel (trying to keep his slacks from getting soaked) to hit a ball from beneath a small tree. A TV viewer called in to say that his action constituted "improving his stance" - and the penalty stroke(s) assessed cost him the tournament. It just seemed to me that his actions seemed less an "improvement" than watering a green during mid-round to slow the ball down.

But, hey, golf was invented by drunken Scotsmen 500 years ago, and some things about it (including my swing) are just unexplainable! :o :o

[ronjor]

-{ Quote: "If you saw the 7th green @ all during the tournament (a 183-yd hole designed by Satan), you probably saw the TV diagrams they showed. It sloped away from the cup in every maddening direction possible. The green was rapidly turning to a "brown" with each passing hour and was the consistency of the carpet on a miniature golf course. Something on the order of just 20-30% of the golfers were able to land their tee shot on it & keep it there. That's just unheard of for professional golfers." }-

I thought a Golf course was supposed to brown. Most of 'em are down here! ;D

And what ever you do, don't make a divot. You will break your arm.

On a lot of courses down here, you are allowed to make a little grass tee in the fairway so you can at least hit the ball without topping it.

[ssgtmax]

-{ Quote: "
On a lot of courses down here, you are allowed to make a little grass tee in the fairway so you can at least hit the ball without topping it." }-

Allowed?....or rules according to ronjor?;D ;D

BTW, I think a pretty fair country golfer by the name of Lee Trevino refined his game in those Texas winds. Used to win bets by playing with a taped Dr Pepper bottle. He always said, "There's no pressure putting for a $100,000 of someone else's money. Pressure is putting to win/lose a $20 bet....when ya don't HAVE 20 bucks!" :o :o

[ronjor]

-{ Quote: "Allowed?....or rules according to ronjor?;D ;D " }-


Unwritten rule at this particular course. You can play a better game on a runway! ;D

Lee Trevino was the quickest golfer I have ever seen. He was great to watch.

[Dazed_and_Confused]

Hey Ronjor. The courses you refer to must be out in West TX. If I remember correctly, they don't even use grass. The courses are 1 large sand trap! LOL.

Now in the Woodlands they have better courses.

[ronjor]

-{ Quote: "Hey Ronjor. The courses you refer to must be out in West TX. If I remember correctly, they don't even use grass. The courses are 1 large sand trap! LOL.

Now in the Woodlands they have better courses." }-


This was a local course down by Corpus. The ground was "gumbo". Mushy when wet and hard as concrete when dry.

The Pro courses down here are well taken care of. The Woodlands is VERY nice.

[Dazed_and_Confused]

Yes, I seem to remember seeing something in the paper aobut that course in the valley (see pic). Is that you sizing your next shot? ;D

[ronjor]

-{ Quote: "Yes, I seem to remember seeing something in the paper aobut that course in the valley (see pic). Is that you sizing your next shot? ;D" }-

That couldn't be the right course, I can see a hill. :D

[Dazed_and_Confused]

-{ Quote: "That couldn't be the right course, I can see a hill. :D" }-
Hill? I thought that was the green? :D

[ronjor]

-{ Quote: "Hill? I thought that was the green? :D" }-


D&C I believe you are right!! The good thing about this course is there are no trees or water hazards to ruin an otherwise good golf game! :D

[Dazed_and_Confused]

-{ Quote: "D&C I believe you are right!! The good thing about this course is there are no trees or water hazards to ruin an otherwise good golf game! :D" }-
Yeah. But my biggest problem has always been the out-of-bounds markers. I don't see any in the above pic. At a course like that, I might be able to break 100!

[Dazed_and_Confused]

Did I tell you about the time my cart got stuck? Yet another advantage of your beautiful course. :D

[ronjor]

-{ Quote: "Did I tell you about the time my cart got stuck? Yet another advantage of your beautiful course. :D" }-


Well D&C, you know the courses are so long down here that the cart battery goes dead before you can finish eighteen holes!

[Dazed_and_Confused]

Good point. I usually don't wind up taking the shortest path down the course. ::)

[ronjor]

-{ Quote: "Good point. I usually don't wind up taking the shortest path down the course. ::)" }-


I can see where you might have to work on that handicap a bit! :D

[ssgtmax]

This is how I handle "gimme" putts.... ::)

[Dazed_and_Confused]

Ha! You know those two putts that Phil missed (on 17 I think) would normally been "gimmes" for him.

Have you ever seen the Pros just casually walk up and quickly tap in a putt that's a couple of inches from the hole? I've seen Phil do that when the ball was (it had to be) 6 inches away. And I never see them miss. Every time I try that the ball rolls way past the hole. No such thing as a gimme with my game!

[ronjor]

-{ Quote: "Ha! You know those two putts that Phil missed (on 17 I think) would normally been "gimmes" for him.

Have you ever seen the Pros just casually walk up and quickly tap in a putt that's a couple of inches from the hole? I've seen Phil do that when the ball was (it had to be) 6 inches away. And I never see them miss. Every time I try that the ball rolls way past the hole. No such thing as a gimme with my game!" }-


My biggest problem is getting on the green. I would like to try a gimme sometime in the future. ;D

[ssgtmax]

-{ Quote: "Ha!
Have you ever seen the Pros just casually walk up and quickly tap in a putt that's a couple of inches from the hole? I've seen Phil do that when the ball was (it had to be) 6 inches away. And I never see them miss. Every time I try that the ball rolls way past the hole. No such thing as a gimme with my game!" }-

Seem to remember Hale Irwin (of all the unlikely choices) do a casual, backhanded miss of a putt of about 12" a few years back. I think it ended up costing him considerable $$$$. You can bet it never happened to him again! :o

[ronjor]

-{ Quote: "Seem to remember Hale Irwin (of all the unlikely choices) do a casual, backhanded miss of a putt of about 12" a few years back. I think it ended up costing him considerable $$$$. You can bet it never happened to him again! :o" }-


Who, in your opinion, is, was, the best putter in Golf?

[ssgtmax]

-{ Quote: "Who, in your opinion, is, was, the best putter in Golf?" }-

In the more modern era, Ben Crenshaw (at his peak) was probably the best overall. Nicklaus, under big time pressure, probably made the most crucial putts.

[Dazed_and_Confused]

-{ Quote: "Who, in your opinion, is, was, the best putter in Golf?" }-

I seem to remember Tom Watson being a great putter. When I get a chance I'll look on the USGA site. I'm sure they must have stats.

[ronjor]

-{ Quote: "In the more modern era, Ben Crenshaw (at his peak) was probably the best overall. Nicklaus, under big time pressure, probably made the most crucial putts." }-

I would agree with Nicklaus. He was a deadeye on putts. Not to mention his long ball game. He was good.

[ssgtmax]

-{ Quote: "I seem to remember Tom Watson being a great putter. When I get a chance I'll look on the USGA site. I'm sure they must have stats." }-

Excellent choice! There was a time (mid 70s thru early 80s) that he was absolutely deadly on anything inside 10' or so. Got the "yips" in later years, as so many of us "mature fellers" seem to do.... :-\

[Dazed_and_Confused]

Speaking of Tom, I was really impressed by his comments when his long-time caddie passed away recently. Really sorry I was too young to watch him in his prime. Classy guy.

[ssgtmax]

-{ Quote: "Speaking of Tom, I was really impressed by his comments when his long-time caddie passed away recently. Really sorry I was too young to watch him in his prime. Classy guy." }-

That he is. His caddy's slow death from "Lou Gehrig's Disease" was very tough. Both men handled the Final Round with great dignity.

One more add Watson: 4th round of '77 (I think) Brit Open, with Nicklaus & Watson tied after 3 rounds. Nicklaus shoots 66....Watson shoots 65 to edge him by a stroke. One of the best shootouts ever. :D

[ronjor]

-{ Quote: "That he is. His caddy's slow death from "Lou Gehrig's Disease" was very tough. Both men handled the Final Round with great dignity.

One more add Watson: 4th round of '77 (I think) Brit Open, with Nicklaus & Watson tied after 3 rounds. Nicklaus shoots 66....Watson shoots 65 to edge him by a stroke. One of the best shootouts ever. :D" }-


I'm surprised anybody can break par in the British Open. Windtunnel effect! :D

[ssgtmax]

-{ Quote: "I'm surprised anybody can break par in the British Open. Windtunnel effect! :D" }-

I'm highly suspicious of courses where sheep are used to mow the fairways. ;D

[Dazed_and_Confused]

-{ Quote: "One more add Watson: 4th round of '77 (I think) Brit Open, with Nicklaus & Watson tied after 3 rounds. Nicklaus shoots 66....Watson shoots 65 to edge him by a stroke. One of the best shootouts ever. :D" }-

I would love to see that. I'm a HUGE college basketball fan, and occassionally watch ESPN classic. But they never seem to show old golf matches. I guess I need to subscribe to the Golf channel for that.

[ronjor]

-{ Quote: "I'm highly suspicious of courses where sheep are used to mow the fairways. ;D" }-


What do they call those "traps". The round holes that if you get in one, you are there for life? :D

[ssgtmax]

-{ Quote: "I would love to see that. I'm a HUGE college basketball fan, and occassionally watch ESPN classic. But they never seem to show old golf matches. I guess I need to subscribe to the Golf channel for that." }-

The replay always shows up again on the Golf Channel around British Open time....July. ;)

[Dazed_and_Confused]

-{ Quote: "What do they call those "traps". The round holes that if you get in one, you are there for life? :D" }-

True! And when you can get out, you usually have to travel the same direction that you came from!

[ssgtmax]

-{ Quote: "What do they call those "traps". The round holes that if you get in one, you are there for life? :D" }-

That pot bunker next to the 17th green (The Road Hole) @ St Andrews was the beginning of the tailspin from which David Duval hasn't yet recovered. Took him FOUR shots to get out. I'm sure he still has nightmares of being buried alive in there. Went from #1 in the world (pre-Tiger) to a guy who frequently can't break "80".

That's not a trap....it's a boobytrap! >:(

[ronjor]

-{ Quote: "That pot bunker next to the 17th green (The Road Hole) @ St Andrews was the beginning of the tailspin from which David Duval hasn't yet recovered. Took him FOUR shots to get out. I'm sure he still has nightmares of being buried alive in there. Went from #1 in the world (pre-Tiger) to a guy who frequently can't break "80".

That's not a trap....it's a boobytrap! >:(" }-


;D ;D And it is hard to rattle those pros.

[ronjor]

No golf here. Link (http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/front/2645568)

[ssgtmax]

Favorite golf quotes:

1) "Golf is a good walk spoiled." ~Mark Twain

2) "If you drink, don't drive. Don't even putt." ~Dean Martin

3) "Golf is a cruel mistress." ~Jim Murray (late, great LA Times sportswriter)


;D ;D ;D

[ssgtmax]

-{ Quote: "No golf here. Link (http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/front/2645568)" }-

JeezLuhweez....reminds me of the year that the Dodgers/Astros game @ the Astrodome was postponed due to rain! True story. Parking lot was flooded & nobody could get to the game.... :o :o

[ronjor]

-{ Quote: "JeezLuhweez....reminds me of the year that the Dodgers/Astros game @ the Astrodome was postponed due to rain! True story. Parking lot was flooded & nobody could get to the game.... :o :o" }-

Don't know if you saw pictures of the water left behind by Tropical Storm Allison about three years ago. Turned Interstate Ten into a giant ditch.

[Dazed_and_Confused]

-{ Quote: "The replay always shows up again on the Golf Channel around British Open time....July. ;)" }-
Thanks, max. I making a note (reminder) in my PDA now.

-{ Quote: "Don't know if you saw pictures of the water left behind by Tropical Storm Allison about three years ago. Turned Interstate Ten into a giant ditch." }-
Before long it will be mid-summer, and you'll be praying for rain. Consider this an opportunity to frequent your indoor golf center. :D

[ronjor]

-{ Quote: "

Before long it will be mid-summer, and you'll be praying for rain. Consider this an opportunity to frequent your indoor golf center. :D" }-

D&C

Good point! Touche!

[Dazed_and_Confused]

I've treaded water more than a few times during my years in TX, not to mention a flooded house. ::) I've also been through droughts. I'll take the rain any day, although I know it's not pleasant so I hope it stops soon. Send some this way. My flowers are starting to wilt. :D

Concerning Golf weather, I prefer cold to hot. You can always put on another layer of clothes, but you can only take so much off.... ;D

[bigc73542]

-{ Quote: "I've treaded water more than a few times during my years in TX, not to mention a flooded house. ::) I've also been through droughts. I'll take the rain any day, although I know it's not pleasant so I hope it stops soon. Send some this way. My flowers are starting to wilt. :D

Concerning Golf weather, I prefer cold to hot. You can always put on another layer of clothes, but you can only take so much off.... ;D" }-

That would definatly distract the other golfers in your picture. Heck it would distract me and I'm not playing ;D

[ronjor]

-{ Quote: "

Concerning Golf weather, I prefer cold to hot. You can always put on another layer of clothes, but you can only take so much off.... ;D" }-


Now, that's what I call Golfing D&C!! ;D Who needs a handicap!!

[Dazed_and_Confused]

But as per regulations, I am wearing a hat!

[ronjor]

-{ Quote: "But as per regulations, I am wearing a hat!" }-


You folks need any caddies up that way? 8)

[bigc73542]

And a cute little hat it is to. ;)

[Dazed_and_Confused]

-{ Quote: "You folks need any caddys up that way? 8)" }-
Well if I were Tiger, I might want to look into getting a new one. He has been struggling lately. What is your opinion on his caddie taking the onlooker's camera after he took a shot during Tiger's backswing? IMO he did the right thing.

[bigc73542]

If they don't want to take the chance of getting their picture taken they shouldn't allow cameras on the course. If a caddie tried to take my camera he would be pulling back a stub. ;)

[Dazed_and_Confused]

I don't think the issue was with Tiger getting his picture taken. I think the problem was the sound of the camera was very disturbing during his backswing. Now it wouldn't make that much of a difference in my game, but I understand that sounds during a backswing can be districting.

[ronjor]

-{ Quote: "If they don't want to take the chance of getting their picture taken they shouldn't allow cameras on the course. If a caddie tried to take my camera he would be pulling back a stub. ;)" }-


The galleries have been getting much more vocal and rude these days.

Out of control in a lot of cases.

[Dazed_and_Confused]

-{ Quote: "The galleries have been getting much more vocal and rude these days. Out of control in a lot of cases." }-
Agreed. But I always found it strange that silence was necessary in golf while in baseball there is all of this yelling while one is trying to hit a 100 MPH fastball being thrown at him. :o

[bigc73542]

Unfortunatly that is the price you pay when a sport gets more popular and starts to draw big crowds. It starts to draw spectators from different areas that the sports are sometimes very vocal. I really think that a lot of the background noise is caused by people that are not as used to the courtesy allowed the players as in golf as compaired to the sports they are used to watching. And then again there are a lot of inconsiderate people around also.

[ronjor]

-{ Quote: "Agreed. But I always found it strange that silence was necessary in golf while in baseball there is all of this yelling while one is trying to hit a 100 MPH fastball being thrown at him. :o" }-


I guess we could allow the golfers to chew tobacco and spit. Depending on the gallery, they could aim where ever they please! ;D

[bigc73542]

I guess they could spit a big chew into the noisey gallery ;D

[Dazed_and_Confused]

I'm surprised the spectator gave his/her camera up instead of walking away when he/she saw the caddie coming. He/she obviouly had no clue what he/she did wrong until it was taken away. How imbarasing.:-[

[Dazed_and_Confused]

-{ Quote: "I guess we could allow the golfers to chew tobacco and spit. Depending on the gallery, they could aim where ever they please! ;D" }-
Just creating a big cloud of smoke would be enough to keep me away!

[ronjor]

-{ Quote: "Agreed. But I always found it strange that silence was necessary in golf while in baseball there is all of this yelling while one is trying to hit a 100 MPH fastball being thrown at him. :o" }-


You get more chances with the ball in baseball. In golf, one shot is it. No three strikes and you are out. If the crowd messes up your first strike, you can bear down and concentrate on the next swing.

[Dazed_and_Confused]

-{ Quote: "You get more chances with the ball in baseball. In golf, one shot is it. No three strikes and you are out. If the crowd messes up your first strike, you can bear down and concentrate on the next swing." }-
Good point. Although I have been know to use a "mulligan" every now and then... ::)

[ronjor]

-{ Quote: "Just creating a big cloud of smoke would be enough to keep me away!" }-

That's not Tom Watson in the picture is it?

[Dazed_and_Confused]

-{ Quote: "That's not Tom Watson in the picture is it?" }-
I don't believe so. I don't think he smokes. If he does, I guess I would just have to endure the smoke. :)

[ronjor]

-{ Quote: "I don't believe so. I don't think he smokes. If he does, I guess I would just have to endure the smoke. :)" }-


I like your way of thinking D&C! ;D

[Dazed_and_Confused]

-{ Quote: "I like your way of thinking D&C! ;D" }-
When it comes to golf, you have to keep an open mind. I never liked golf until I learned how to enjoy the time between swings. Hence my favorite golf cart witih all the necessities...

[ronjor]

-{ Quote: "When it comes to golf, you have to keep an open mind. I never liked golf until I learned how to enjoy the time between swings. Hence my favorite golf cart witih all the necessities..." }-

You do know how to live D&C.

We're a little slow down here.

[Dazed_and_Confused]

-{ Quote: "We're a little slow down here." }-
Now I know better than that. There are some nice courses around central Tex. Although I must admit my favorite course was in Hawaii. Florida has some nice ones too. Never played any on the Left Coast, although I understand southern Cal has some nice ones too.

What is your favorite course?

[ronjor]

-{ Quote: "Now I know better than that. There are some nice courses around central Tex. Although I must admit my favorite course was in Hawaii. Florida has some nice ones too. Never played any on the Left Coast, although I understand southern Cal has some nice ones too.

What is your favorite course?" }-


I would like to see the Masters in person.

http://www.masters.org/en_US/index.html

[Dazed_and_Confused]

-{ Quote: "I would like to see the Masters in person. " }-
Yes, that would be a treat. You would get to see ALL of the big names at one tournament. Very well maintained course, from what I've seen on TV. Maybe if I offer to caddie for one of the newbies! I'm strong enough to carry a bag!

[ronjor]

-{ Quote: "Yes, that would be a treat. You would get to see ALL of the big names at one tournament. Very well maintained course, from what I've seen on TV. Maybe if I offer to caddie for one of the newbies! I'm strong enough to carry a bag!" }-


I don't know why anyone wouldn't enjoy golf after looking at all these pictures.

I may go on tour next year!

[Dazed_and_Confused]

-{ Quote: "I may go on tour next year!" }-Hey, I understand Q-School starts soon! http://www.usga.org/championships/apply_to_play/apply_to_play.asp

[ronjor]

-{ Quote: "Hey, I understand Q-School starts soon!" }-


Sorry. Don't have a clue. (Not unusual by the way)

[Dazed_and_Confused]

-{ Quote: "Sorry. Don't have a clue. (Not unusual by the way)" }-Q-School (I believe) is the round of tournaments one must play (and do well) before he can get his tour card. Maybe someone more knowledgeable on the subject could expand on this.

See here (http://www.aspiringgolfer.com/gr-qschools.asp).

[ssgtmax]

-{ Quote: "Yes, that would be a treat. You would get to see ALL of the big names at one tournament. Very well maintained course, from what I've seen on TV. Maybe if I offer to caddie for one of the newbies! I'm strong enough to carry a bag!" }-

Holy sand wedge! I should have practiced WAY more all these years....

Old Duffer


PS - I've always read that "Q" School is one of the worst torture chambers in the pro golf world. So much riding on a few days' play - a precious PGA Tour card.

[ronjor]

-{ Quote: "Q-School (I believe) is the round of tournaments one must play (and do well) before he can get his tour card. Maybe someone more knowledgeable on the subject could expand on this." }-


I'm not that advanced. Still learning everyday. :D Link (http://www.golf.com/gdc/news/article.asp?id=20877)

[Dazed_and_Confused]

-{ Quote: "I'm not that advanced. Still learning everyday. :D Link (http://www.golf.com/gdc/news/article.asp?id=20877)" }-So are most of the folks at Q-School! I think you might be selling yourself short. Nothing ventured, nothing gained! It's just a shame they don't let girls play on the PGA tour. I might decide to join! 8) I don't think I would fit in too well with the "girls" on the LPGA tour. ::)

Did you know they play golf in the northern parts of the country year-round? I saw a few folks playing in the snow (or at least trying). They were using an orange ball. The heavy coats would really put a crimp in my swing.

[ronjor]

-{ Quote: "So are most of the folks at Q-School! I think you might be selling yourself short. Nothing ventured, nothing gained! It's just a shame they don't let girls play on the PGA tour. I might decide to join! 8) I don't think I would fit in too well with the "girls" on the LPGA tour. ::)

Did you know they play golf in the northern parts of the country year-round? I saw a few folks playing in the snow (or at least trying). They were using an orange ball. The heavy coats would really put a crimp in my swing." }-


The only way we could play golf down here right now is in a rowboat. Maybe bowling would be better for awhile! ;D

[Dazed_and_Confused]

-{ Quote: "The only way we could play golf down here right now is in a rowboat. Maybe bowling would be better for awhile! ;D" }-My uncle in Houston said a wall in Home Depot in Galveston fell down due to the heavy rains. Not sure indoor sports are safe either!

[ronjor]

-{ Quote: "My uncle in Houston said a wall in Home Depot in Galveston fell down due to the heavy rains. Not sure indoor sports are safe either!" }-


Part of the roof! Link (http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/topstory/2646987)

[ssgtmax]

-{ Quote: "It's just a shame they don't let girls play on the PGA tour. " }-

I thought Annika played very well in the Colonial tournament in Texas last year. Barely missed the cut....much better than a whole buncha the boys. And I guarantee you that Michelle Wie (all 6' & 14 yrs of her) has got game. She lacks only some maturity - gee, I wonder why that would be? I just hope they let her have some semblance of a "normal" teenage life.

If women have the game to compete with the men, they should have every right to play on the PGA Tour. My only complaint would come if they continue to receive exemptions into tournaments. The men have to do "Q" School or qualify via the Nationwide Tour. Ladies should have to clear the same difficult hurdles. ;) ;)

[Dazed_and_Confused]

-{ Quote: "The men have to do "Q" School or qualify via the Nationwide Tour. Ladies should have to clear the same difficult hurdles. ;) ;)" }-I agree 100%. But I also believe that if the men are forced to allow ladies on the Men's tour, the ladies should be forced to accept men, too. But I think the men will gladly accept ladies if they are good enough to make it through Q. And the two you mentioned could probably do it. Annika probably has no desire - she has already proved herself and already has the $$.

[ssgtmax]

-{ Quote: "But I also believe that if the men are forced to allow ladies on the Men's tour, the ladies should be forced to accept men, too. " }-

Hopefully, neither Tour will be forced to do anything. All would lose. That's why proper qualifying/competition is the only way to go. All matters should be settled tee-to-green.

I don't wanna wander too far off the reservation here, into the land of "politics", as it were. I'll now return to hooks, slices, hacks, duffs, snake-killers, flubs, chili-dips, gaffes, shanks, worm-burners & various other aspects of my pathetic swing/game.... ;D ;D

[ronjor]

-{ Quote: "Hopefully, neither Tour will be forced to do anything. All would lose. That's why proper qualifying/competition is the only way to go. All matters should be settled tee-to-green.

I don't wanna wander too far off the reservation here, into the land of "politics", as it were. I'll now return to hooks, slices, hacks, duffs, snake-killers, flubs, chili-dips, gaffes, shanks, worm-burners & various other aspects of my pathetic swing/game.... ;D ;D" }-


Hacking takes on a whole new meaning with golf!! :D

I'm a hacker, as in golf.

[ssgtmax]

-{ Quote: "

I'm a hacker, as in golf." }-

Same-same here. Proof positive: after not having played for 2-3 months, I went out & shot an 83 (not a difficult par 72 course, believe me). One week to the day later....same course, same playing conditions, same crappy swing....I shot 98. Mr. Consistency. ;D ;D

[ronjor]

-{ Quote: "Same-same here. Proof positive: after not having played for 2-3 months, I went out & shot an 83 (not a difficult par 72 course, believe me). One week to the day later....same course, same playing conditions, same crappy swing....I shot 98. Mr. Consistency. ;D ;D" }-


That is pretty fair golfing in my book. Unless you play everyday, it's excellent.

[ssgtmax]

-{ Quote: "I would like to see the Masters in person.

" }-

Golf's hallowed ground. I've never been anywhere close to Augusta National, but I did have the good fortune to walk the fairways of Pebble Beach during the AT&T Tournament in Tiger's rookie pro season. We followed him for about 4 holes. Would luv to hit a drive like that just ONCE in my life! It was also great fun to watch Bill Murray's antics when the TV camera was NOT on him. He gets away with a lot more stuff....and actually hits some pretty decent golf shots. Poor Jack Lemmon really looked his age by then. Kevin Costner & Clint Eastwood were in the same 4some. There were women lined up to the horizon.... 8)

[ssgtmax]

-{ Quote: "That is pretty fair golfing in my book. Unless you play everyday, it's excellent." }-

Certainly excellent any time I break 90 in my golf world. Keep in mind, though, I'm talkin' a very flat course, pretty wide fairways, & maybe 6,100 yds long. Of course, ya still gotta knock the little white pill on the green & make the putts....

[ronjor]

-{ Quote: "Golf's hallowed ground. I've never been anywhere close to Augusta National, but I did have the good fortune to walk the fairways of Pebble Beach during the AT&T Tournament in Tiger's rookie pro season. We followed him for about 4 holes. Would luv to hit a drive like that just ONCE in my life! It was also great fun to watch Bill Murray's antics when the TV camera was NOT on him. He gets away with a lot more stuff....and actually hits some pretty decent golf shots. Poor Jack Lemmon really looked his age by then. Kevin Costner & Clint Eastwood were in the same 4some. There were women lined up to the horizon.... 8)" }-

My mother loved Arnie. She had the chance to meet him in person at The Woodlands years ago. She couldn't say a word to him. I thought she was going to faint!

[ssgtmax]

-{ Quote: "My mother loved Arnie. " }-

Every pro golfer, every morning of his life, should bow toward Latrobe, PA (Arnie's home) and thank his lucky stars. Arnie is the reason they all play for a gazillion $$$$. Always golf's greatest ambassador, having the same effect on galleries everywhere as he had on your star-struck momma.

[ronjor]

-{ Quote: "Every pro golfer, every morning of his life, should bow toward Latrobe, PA (Arnie's home) and thank his lucky stars. Arnie is the reason they all play for a gazillion $$$$. Always golf's greatest ambassador, having the same effect on galleries everywhere as he had on your star-struck momma." }-


In a word, charisma. (Not to mention millions of dollars :D )

[Dazed_and_Confused]

-{ Quote: "In a word, charisma. (Not to mention millions of dollars :D )" }-
Sure it wasn't the Houston heat and humidity? ;D

[ronjor]

-{ Quote: "Sure it wasn't the Houston heat and humidity? ;D" }-


What heat? ;D Good thing we can retreat here when we get carried away elsewhere! 8)

[Dazed_and_Confused]

Another final round tomorrow. But I don't think I'll be tuning in. Don't even recognize any of those on the leader board. I guess the big boys are taking a week off after last week's struggle.

[ronjor]

-{ Quote: "Another final round tomorrow. But I don't think I'll be tuning in. Don't even recognize any of those on the leader board. I guess the big boys are taking a week off after last week's struggle." }-

The newbie tournament.

[Dazed_and_Confused]

-{ Quote: "The newbie tournament." }-
Ooooooooooh, Noooooooooooooooo............ ;D

[ssgtmax]

-{ Quote: "Don't even recognize any of those on the leader board. I guess the big boys are taking a week off after last week's struggle." }-

The WHO DAT? OPEN ;D ;D

[Dazed_and_Confused]

Just goes to show you that getting your tour card doesn't guarantee notoriety. These off-week tours give the no-names a chance to be seen, maybe for the last time. ;D

[ronjor]

Looks like Phil Mickelson is barely getting by with his winnings. :D

PGA (http://www.pga.com/tournaments/)

[ssgtmax]

-{ Quote: "Looks like Phil Mickelson is barely getting by with his winnings. :D " }-

"Tis a struggle. But somebody must bear the burden.... :'(

[Dazed_and_Confused]

-{ Quote: ""Tis a struggle. But somebody must bear the burden.... :'(" }-
I don't know if I could take the pressure of what to do with all the money. I would probably be at the mall all day, shirking my responsibilities here at Wilders. And I enjoy cooking so much, not to mention cleaning the house. When would I find the time fo those things, not to mention golf?? I really feel sorry for Phil and Tiger. They missing out on all the finer things in life! ;D

[ronjor]

-{ Quote: "I don't know if I could take the pressure of what to do with all the money. I would probably be at the mall all day, shirking my responsibilities here at Wilders. And I enjoy cooking so much, not to mention cleaning the house. When would I find the time fo those things, not to mention golf?? I really feel sorry for Phil and Tiger. They missing out on all the finer things in life! ;D" }-


Let us not forget Greg Norman. Boat (http://www.wago.co.uk/news/news_greg_norman.htm)

[Dazed_and_Confused]

-{ Quote: "Let us not forget Greg Norman. Boat (http://www.wago.co.uk/news/news_greg_norman.htm)" }-
Have not seen him in a while. He must be spending a lot of time on his boat. A few years ago, that style hat he wears was selling like hotcakes around here. Also a local favorite. :D

[ssgtmax]

-{ Quote: "Have not seen him in a while. He must be spending a lot of time on his boat. " }-

What with his shoulder injury/surgery & his far-flung business empire, Norman has little time for the game anymore. He was probably the most maddeningly blessed/cursed player of his era. More 2nd place finishes in "majors" than anyone during that time (though he did win 2 Brit Opens). Lost due to choking (remember The Masters against Faldo?) & due to opponents' shots so lucky as to defy description. Yet, through it all, he maintained an affable public demeanor. I don't think he was quite so popular with his fellow pros, but they can be a jealous & cranky bunch. >:(

[ssgtmax]

The Booz Allen Classic? What is THAT ??? Sounds like it was named after some drunken comedy team.... ;D

A little off-topic here, but I must make note to any Texans that Cal State Fullerton whupped the University of Texas today to take the CWS baseball title.

My Dodgers can't suck enough, so I gotta gloat where I can... :-\

[ronjor]

-{ Quote: "The Booz Allen Classic? What is THAT ??? Sounds like it was named after some drunken comedy team.... ;D

A little off-topic here, but I must make note to any Texans that Cal State Fullerton whupped the University of Texas today to take the CWS baseball title.

My Dodgers can't suck enough, so I gotta gloat where I can... :-\" }-


Congrats to Cal State. It's always nice to beat the best! ;D

[ssgtmax]

-{ Quote: "It's alway nice to beat the best! ;D" }-

http://pages.prodigy.net/indianahawkeye/newpage12/1.gif

[ronjor]

-{ Quote: "http://pages.prodigy.net/indianahawkeye/newpage12/1.gif" }-

Cal State wanted to show their old coach they still had it. :)

Glad I'm not a bettin' man! 8)

[ssgtmax]

-{ Quote: "Cal State wanted to show their old coach they still had it. :)

" }-

Do they still use metal bats? Hate that "tink" sound & the inflated slugging stats they create.

[ronjor]

-{ Quote: "Do they still use metal bats? Hate that "tink" sound & the inflated slugging stats they create." }-


I don't know!! I can't see the point in aluminum bats. Doesn't seem to be good training for the pros.

[snowbound]

-{ Quote: "I don't know!! I can't see the point in aluminum bats. Doesn't seem to be good training for the pros." }-

One word, cost... ;) ;D


snowbound

[ronjor]

-{ Quote: "One word, cost... ;) ;D


snowbound" }-

Believe me snowbound, Ut could buy gold bats. ;D That school is loaded with money.

[Dazed_and_Confused]

-{ Quote: "Believe me snowbound, Ut could buy gold bats. ;D That school is loaded with money." }-
OK, getting back on subject... I seem to remember some fine golfers came out of UT. Can you name any?

[ronjor]

-{ Quote: "OK, getting back on subject... I seem to remember some fine golfers came out of UT. Can you name any?" }-

Ben Crenshaw

[ssgtmax]

-{ Quote: "OK, getting back on subject... I seem to remember some fine golfers came out of UT. Can you name any?" }-

Without Googling, I'm "stuck" for the moment. Seems Univ of Houston has produced good golfers, too. Freddie Couples maybe ??? ???

[Dazed_and_Confused]

-{ Quote: "Ben Crenshaw" }-
Very good, Ronjor. Ever heard of Tom Kite?

[ronjor]

-{ Quote: "Very good, Ronjor. Ever heard of Tom Kite?" }-

I saw him on the tube today. My memory is very limited at times. This is one of those times. :)

[Dazed_and_Confused]

How many of those that fininshed in the top 10 in last week's tournamant have you heard of before? Me - only 1 - Tom Lehman.

[ronjor]

-{ Quote: "How many of those that fininshed in the top 10 in last week's tournamant have you heard of before? Me - only 1 - Tom Lehman." }-

Same here. *puppy*

[ssgtmax]

-{ Quote: "How many of those that fininshed in the top 10 in last week's tournamant have you heard of before? Me - only 1 - Tom Lehman." }-


Who's Tom Lehman?? (hee-hee-hee-hee...) ;D ;D ;D

[ronjor]

Latest info. Good site. (http://www.golfweb.com/)

[Dazed_and_Confused]

I'd be asking for a refund in I were in the gallery. I could have watched people I've never heard of play at the local course for a lot less $$. :o

[ronjor]

-{ Quote: "Who's Tom Lehman?? (hee-hee-hee-hee...) ;D ;D ;D" }-

ssgtmax

How close are you to the vineyards? ;D

[ssgtmax]

-{ Quote: "ssgtmax

How close are you to the vineyards? ;D" }-

Lots of vineyards around this county & state. Is that what you mean?

[ronjor]

-{ Quote: "Lots of vineyards around this county & state. Is that what you mean?" }-

Disregard that question. But, yes, that is what I meant.

[Dazed_and_Confused]

What type of clubs do you use? I know a lot of people spend hundreds of dollars on the latest fad regularly. I bought my clubs (Dunlop) at a discount dept. store years ago, and they work well for me. Those expensive clubs don't make a difference with my game.

[ronjor]

-{ Quote: "What type of clubs do you use? I know a lot of people spend hundreds of dollars on the latest fad regularly. I bought my clubs (Dunlop) at a discount dept. store years ago, and they work well for me. Those expensive clubs don't make a difference with my game." }-


I only use three clubs. Driver, nine iron, and putter. You believe that don't you? :P

[dog]

And that's just when Ron's playing mini put! LOL ;D ~j/k~

Myself - I go Happy Gilmour style ~hockey stick~ LOL

Sorry, Ron ... I couldn't resist!

Steve

[ssgtmax]

-{ Quote: "What type of clubs do you use? I know a lot of people spend hundreds of dollars on the latest fad regularly. I bought my clubs (Dunlop) at a discount dept. store years ago, and they work well for me. Those expensive clubs don't make a difference with my game." }-

I always ask my more well-healed friends who buy the latest Ping or Callaway or Taylor Made club-of-the-month creation, "Didja buy a new swing, too?" A fundamentally sound swing (watch old films of Sam Snead) will beat your brains out with ancient hickory shaft clubs. ;)

[ssgtmax]

-{ Quote: "I only use three clubs. Driver, nine iron, and putter. You believe that don't you? :P" }-

You could be on the right track. I once watched one of those made-for-TV golf events where the competitors could use just 2 clubs. One of the pros (name escapes me @ this AARP moment) shot a 2 over par 74, using just a
5-iron & putter. So much for needing 14 in the bag.... :o

[ronjor]

-{ Quote: "I always ask my more well-healed friends who buy the latest Ping or Callaway or Taylor Made club-of-the-month creation, "Didja buy a new swing, too?" A fundamentally sound swing (watch old films of Sam Snead) will beat your brains out with ancient hickory shaft clubs. ;)" }-


Some of those high tech clubs look they could do something. As you say though, it don't mean a thing if you don't have the swing. :D

[ssgtmax]

-{ Quote: "Some of those high tech clubs look they could do something. As you say though, it don't mean a thing if you don't have the swing. :D" }-

At the pathetic level of my game :( , more strokes can be saved by spending a good deal of time @ the pitching/putting green than on the practice tee. The ultimate irony in golf is that the 5' putt counts exactly the same as the 300-yd drive. Which of those is any of us more likely to make/hit ???

[Dazed_and_Confused]

-{ Quote: "As you say though, it don't mean a thing if you don't have the swing. :D" }-

Well, I usually carry all the clubs with me (they won't let me on the course otherwise) but I usually use just a 3-wood, 9-iron, and putter. I never can hit a driver. Way too long for me I think.

[ssgtmax]

-{ Quote: "Well, I usually carry all the clubs with me (they won't let me on the course otherwise) " }-

What...they have club-counting police where you play? The muni courses I play on only care about how many greenbacks ya carry in your wallet! ;D ;D

[ronjor]

-{ Quote: "Well, I usually carry all the clubs with me (they won't let me on the course otherwise) but I usually use just a 3-wood, 9-iron, and putter. I never can hit a driver. Way too long for me I think." }-

I was just kidding! They don't make enough clubs for me. I need an anti-slicer countered with anti-hooker, ----you get the idea! :D

[ssgtmax]

Anybody have a hole-in-one? I've played off & on for 40 years and never made one. My goofy 20-yr old nephew played about a year and made one! An uncle started playing the game after retiring @ age 65 and has made THREE!!! I've hit the cup & spun out and hit the flagstick, only to bounce away. Gawwwwwd, there's no justice.... >:( :( :'(

[ronjor]

-{ Quote: "Anybody have a hole-in-one? I've played off & on for 40 years and never made one. My goofy 20-yr old nephew played about a year and made one! An uncle started playing the game after retiring @ age 65 and has made THREE!!! I've hit the cup & spun out and hit the flagstick, only to bounce away. Gawwwwwd, there's no justice.... >:( :( :'(" }-

Not even close here.

[Dazed_and_Confused]

-{ Quote: "Not even close here." }-

Hole in one? I am happy just to get on the green in regulation!

[Wayne - DiamondCS]

I'm in love:
http://www.taylormadegolf.com/r7/
"One driver. Six trajectories."

... note that this won't have any impact on my handicap, but DAMN it looks good. ;)

[Dazed_and_Confused]

-{ Quote: "I'm in love:
http://www.taylormadegolf.com/r7/
"One driver. Six trajectories."" }-

Ha! My $6 driver gives me a lot more than 6 trajectories. That's why I don't use it!

[dog]

My trajectories are all horizontal ... slice or hook! ;D

[ronjor]

-{ Quote: "I'm in love:
http://www.taylormadegolf.com/r7/
"One driver. Six trajectories."

... note that this won't have any impact on my handicap, but DAMN it looks good. ;)" }-


Great marketing! ;D

[ronjor]

-{ Quote: "Ha! My $6 driver gives me a lot more than 6 trajectories. That's why I don't use it!" }-

My best shot with a driver is the "dribble" off the tee. That is where you top the ball and remove half of the cover in the process. :D

[ssgtmax]

Sub-category: Most unusual shot witnessed in person

Once had an older gentleman (as in 80-ish) join us to fill out our 4some. Retired fella who traveled the country in his motorhome, stopping to play wherever he felt like it. I noticed he was wearing a ballcap with the number "8" printed above the bill. Didn't ask at first....

We came to a 140-yd par 3 hole that played from a very elevated tee to a green that lay beyond a pond. Behind the green were out of bounds stakes. He hit first & sailed his tee shot over the green & out of bounds. He waited as the other 3 of us each hit. He then hit his provisional ball. Sure enough, it took 2 bounces, then rolled straight into the cup....for a PAR!

As we drove down the hill in our carts toward the green, I asked him about the "8" on the cap. "Oh that....it's the number of holes-in-one that I've made."

I felt very humble.... :-\ :-\ :o

[ronjor]

-{ Quote: "Sub-category: Most unusual shot witnessed in person

Once had an older gentleman (as in 80-ish) join us to fill out our 4some. Retired fella who traveled the country in his motorhome, stopping to play wherever he felt like it. I noticed he was wearing a ballcap with the number "8" printed above the bill. Didn't ask at first....

We came to a 140-yd par 3 hole that played from a very elevated tee to a green that lay beyond a pond. Behind the green were out of bounds stakes. He hit first & sailed his tee shot over the green & out of bounds. He waited as the other 3 of us each hit. He then hit his provisional ball. Sure enough, it took 2 bounces, then rolled straight into the cup....for a PAR!

As we drove down the hill in our carts toward the green, I asked him about the "8" on the cap. "Oh that....it's the number of holes-in-one that I've made."

I felt very humble.... :-\ :-\ :o" }-


ssgtmax

That sounds like a Texas story. Know what I mean? ;D

[Dazed_and_Confused]

-{ Quote: " I noticed he was wearing a ballcap with the number "8" printed above the bill. " }-

I'll bet he was upset. Now he has to buy a new cap!

[ssgtmax]

-{ Quote: "I'll bet he was upset. Now he has to buy a new cap!" }-


http://pages.prodigy.net/indianahawkeye/newpage08/8.gif

[Dazed_and_Confused]

-{ Quote: "That sounds like a Texas story. Know what I mean? ;D" }-
If you believe that one, I want to tell you about this fish I caught last week....;D

[ronjor]

-{ Quote: "If you believe that one, I want to tell you about this fish I caught last week....;D" }-


All I see is bait fish. Where's the golf cart? :P

[ssgtmax]

-{ Quote: "If you believe that one, I want to tell you about this fish I caught last week....;D" }-

Jeez....my reputation has been impugned! :( ;D ;D ;D

BTW, I never did see the fish....http://pages.prodigy.net/rogerlori1/emoticons/eeka.gif

[Dazed_and_Confused]

-{ Quote: "BTW, I never did see the fish....http://pages.prodigy.net/rogerlori1/emoticons/eeka.gif" }-
I'm holding THEM in my hands. Those are big fellas. There were about 25 more, but I could only hold two at a time for the picture, you see... ;D

[ronjor]

-{ Quote: "I'm holding THEM in my hands. Those are big fellas. There were about 25 more, but I could only hold two at a time for the picture, you see... ;D" }-

That is the biggest water trap I have ever seen! It takes a boat to cross it and you can fish on the way! ;D

[ssgtmax]

In case ya missed it, there was a Shark sighting @ the Western Open yesterday. Norman sneeked in with a 1-over par 72 round.
http://www.animationlibrary.com/Animation11/Animals/Sharks/Fin_passes.gif

[Dazed_and_Confused]

-{ Quote: "In case ya missed it, there was a Shark sighting @ the Western Open yesterday. Norman sneeked in with a 1-over par 72 round.
" }-
Will have to watch a little this holiday weekend.

[Dazed_and_Confused]

Well, more of the same. Lots of Noobs at the top of the leader board. Although I see Mr. Love there. :D He is also one of my favs. I was watching a tourney in Dallas a few years ago and when he walked by he gave me his ball after finishing a hole. Really nice guy.

[ronjor]

Tiger was there too. Getting ready for The British Open.

British Open (http://www.golfweb.com/tournaments/britishopen/)

[Dazed_and_Confused]

-{ Quote: "Tiger was there too. Getting ready for The British Open." }-

Don't you agree he would be better prepared by going to the local putt-putt course? ;D ;D You never know what type of strange situations (http://www.streaking.co.uk/relatednewsbritishopen2001.htm) you'll see a the BO.

[ssgtmax]

-{ Quote: "Although I see Mr. Love there. :D He is also one of my favs. I was watching a tourney in Dallas a few years ago and when he walked by he gave me his ball after finishing a hole. Really nice guy." }-

Ahhhhh....he does that for all the young ladies. :lurking: ;D ;D

[ssgtmax]

-{ Quote: "You never know what type of strange situations (http://www.streaking.co.uk/relatednewsbritishopen2001.htm) you'll see a the BO." }-

Some folks need to remain clothed @ all times! :o :-\

[ronjor]

-{ Quote: "Some folks need to remain clothed @ all times! :o :-\" }-

I overlooked that link. That is the same guy that goes all over the world streaking. He did the Super Bowl this year.

Mark Roberts (http://www.thestreaker.org.uk/)

[Dazed_and_Confused]

-{ Quote: "I overlooked that link. That is the same guy that goes all over the world streaking. He did the Super Bowl this year." }-

Well, that's three good reasons I didn't watch the Super Bowl this past year.

1. Cowboys didn't play
2. The halftime debacle
3. The Mr. Robert's show

[Primrose]

Down here at Tidewater we have been golfing and fishing on the same stroke for years ;D

http://www.tide-water.com/

If you do not get a hole in one..at least you have dinner ;)

[Dazed_and_Confused]

-{ Quote: "If you do not get a hole in one..at least you have dinner ;)" }-

Nice idea, Primrose. But I don't like fishing - I hate trying to hook those poor worms. :-\

[ssgtmax]

-{ Quote: "Down here at Tidewater we have been golfing and fishing on the same stroke for years ;D
" }-


Looks like a Ron Popeil invention to be advertised on the telly....a la the Popeil Pocket Fisherman. :) :)

[Primrose]

-{ Quote: "Looks like a Ron Popeil invention to be advertised on the telly....a la the Popeil Pocket Fisherman. :) :)" }-

Yup..and we use turkey wings on those hooks to catch the big fish since they always get burnt in the Ron Popeil's Showtime™ Rotisserie.

;D

http://www.herculesengines.com/Trash%20Can%20Turkey/Index.htm

[ssgtmax]

If ya wanna read about a....ahem....MONSTER hole-in-one, read here:
Surely this is a misprint! (http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/sports_golf/article/0,1299,DRMN_57_3010243,00.html)

There's a lot of unbelievable hole-in-one trivia @ the end of the article, too. :o :o

[Dazed_and_Confused]

I find it hard to believe they would certify that as a hole-in-one if no one even saw the ball go near the green! In my opinion, some kid picked up the ball and dropped it in the hole. Nice kid! ;D

[ronjor]

-{ Quote: "I find it hard to believe they would certify that as a hole-in-one if no one even saw the ball go near the green! In my opinion, some kid picked up the ball and dropped it in the hole. Nice kid! ;D" }-


D&C I am glad you spoke up. ssgtmax is finding some doozeys out there!

[ssgtmax]

-{ Quote: "D&C I am glad you spoke up. ssgtmax is finding some doozeys out there!" }-

I don't make 'em up; I just report 'em! ;D ;D

I must admit, my cynical/skeptical side kicked in immediately on the lengthy hole-in-one story. Given the set of known facts, I'd never certify it as more than a "whopper". There's no way on God's planet that the tee shot flew 300+ yds in the air, ricocheted off some yardage marker & somehow found its way into the hole 200 yds further down the fairway. Somebody monkeyed with the ball.

[Dazed_and_Confused]

Instead of placing the ball in the hole for me, I would be happy if a kid just picked it up and threw it STRAIGHT down the fairway. ;D

[ssgtmax]

-{ Quote: "Instead of placing the ball in the hole for me, I would be happy if a kid just picked it up and threw it STRAIGHT down the fairway. ;D" }-

2Funny! ;D With my golf luck, the thrown ball would roll into a gopher hole & be lost 4ever. Caddyshack revisited.... ;)

[ronjor]

-{ Quote: "I don't make 'em up; I just report 'em! ;D ;D

I must admit, my cynical/skeptical side kicked in immediately on the lengthy hole-in-one story. Given the set of known facts, I'd never certify it as more than a "whopper". There's no way on God's planet that the tee shot flew 300+ yds in the air, ricocheted off some yardage marker & somehow found its way into the hole 200 yds further down the fairway. Somebody monkeyed with the ball." }-

Down this way, those stories are known as a "crock"! As well as other names.
;D ;D ;D 8)

[Dazed_and_Confused]

-{ Quote: "2Funny! ;D With my golf luck, the thrown ball would roll into a gopher hole & be lost 4ever. Caddyshack revisited.... ;)" }-

Ha.....

[ssgtmax]

I got anudder one....

'Bout 5-6 years ago a local acquaintance was playing golf with his weekly, early mornin' 4some. Came to the 3rd hole, a 3-par of about 160 yds. He teed off into the blinding morning sunrise that was right in their faces. Nobody could see a thing. :-\

A thorough search around the green failed to find his tee shot. As he was ready to just drop another ball, take a penalty & play, one of the other players looked in the cup. Bingo! ....and NOBODY coulda messed with the ball. ;)

[Dazed_and_Confused]

-{ Quote: "I got anudder one....

'Bout 5-6 years ago a local acquaintance was playing golf with his weekly, early mornin' 4some. Came to the 3rd hole, a 3-par of about 160 yds. He teed off into the blinding morning sunrise that was right in their faces. Nobody could see a thing. :-\

A thorough search around the green failed to find his tee shot. As he was ready to just drop another ball, take a penalty & play, one of the other players looked in the cup. Bingo! ....and NOBODY coulda messed with the ball. ;)" }-

It's getting deep around here. Where are my boots?? ;D

[ssgtmax]

-{ Quote: "Ha....." }-


2Funny again! I stole it! 8)

[Dazed_and_Confused]

Did I tell you I received an offer from NIKE the other day?

[ssgtmax]

-{ Quote: "It's getting deep around here. Where are my boots?? ;D" }-


Just be sure they have soft spikes on them.... :P

[ronjor]

-{ Quote: "Did I tell you I received an offer from NIKE the other day?" }-


I'm partial to hackers!! ;D

[ssgtmax]

-{ Quote: "I'm partial to hackers!! ;D" }-

Careful how you word that in a computer forum. ;D ;D

[ronjor]

-{ Quote: "Careful how you word that in a computer forum. ;D ;D" }-


OOOOPS!! Forgot again.

[Dazed_and_Confused]

-{ Quote: "OOOOPS!! Forgot again." }-

That looks dangerous. Are those legal on the courses in TX?

[Dazed_and_Confused]

I know what I want for my birthday. You can never have too much practice! ;D

[ronjor]

I found your stripes by the eighteenth hole sarge.

[Dazed_and_Confused]

-{ Quote: "I found your stripes by the eighteenth hole sarge." }-

I'm sorry. I'm not a military girl. That one went way over my head. ::)

[ssgtmax]

-{ Quote: "I know what I want for my birthday. You can never have too much practice! ;D" }-

Gawwwd....I can't keep up with you & Ronjor! ;D ;D ;D

[Dazed_and_Confused]

Ron,

This must be that course you were talking about in West Texas. ;D

[ssgtmax]

-{ Quote: "I found your stripes by the eighteenth hole sarge." }-


Yep, USAF staff sergeant stripes. War 'em back in the days of Eddie Rickenbacker....or somewhere around then. :o

Musta torn 'em off my sleeve after another lousy round o' golf....

[ronjor]

-{ Quote: "I know what I want for my birthday. You can never have too much practice! ;D" }-


I won't go there, so to speak!! 8)

[ssgtmax]

-{ Quote: "War 'em back in the days
" }-


That would be wore 'em. Freudian slip.... :lurking: :lurking:

[ronjor]

-{ Quote: "Ron,

This must be that course you were talking about in West Texas. ;D" }-


That's it!!! I am amazed at your superior image finding ability! ;D

[Dazed_and_Confused]

I think my problem might be I always pick the wrong playing partners... ;D

[Dazed_and_Confused]

-{ Quote: "That would be wore 'em. Freudian slip.... " }-

;D ;D ;D ;D That's too much!

[bigc73542]

A man goes to the confessional. "Forgive me father, for I have sinned."

"What is your sin, my child?" the priest asks back.

"Well," the man starts, "I used some horrible language this week and I feel absolutely terrible."

"When did you do use this awful language?" said the priest.

"I was golfing and hit an incredible drive that looked like it was going to go over 250 yards, but it struck a phone line that was hanging over the fairway and fell straight down to the ground after going only about 100 yards."

"Is that when you swore?"

"No, Father." Said the man. "After that, a squirrel ran out of the bushes and grabbed my ball in his mouth and began to run away."

"Is THAT when you swore?" asked the priest again.

"Well, no," said the man, "You see, as the squirrel was running, an eagle came down out of the sky, grabbed the squirrel in his talons and began to fly away!"

"Is THAT when you swore?" asked the amazed priest.

"No, not yet." The man replied. "As the eagle carried the squirrel away in his claws, it flew towards the green. And as it passed over a bit of forest near the green, the squirrel dropped my ball."

"Did you swear THEN?" asked the now impatient priest.

"No, because as the ball fell it struck a tree, bounced through some bushes, careened off a big rock, and rolled through a sand trap onto the green and stopped within six inches of the hole."

"You missed the %#$* putt, didn't you?" sighed the priest

[ronjor]

-{ Quote: "I think my problem might be I always pick the wrong playing partners... ;D" }-


;D ;D ;D ;D Whoa!!

[Dazed_and_Confused]

-{ Quote: "That's it!!! I am amazed at your superior image finding ability! ;D" }-

I get the impression that fella in the background with the horns is not impressed with your speed of play. Time to pick 'em up and move to the next hole! ;D ;D

[Dazed_and_Confused]

-{ Quote: ""You missed the %#$* putt, didn't you?" sighed the priest" }-

...Well, did you miss the putt?? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

[ronjor]

-{ Quote: "I get the impression that fella in the background with the horns is not impressed with your speed of play. Time to pick 'em up and move to the next hole! ;D ;D" }-


We still haven't figured out you can get on the horse, lengthen the club, and call it Polo!!

[Dazed_and_Confused]

Anyone contemplating a career in Golf? Maybe I can help your decision making process... ;D

[bigc73542]

$500.000.00 a week or you could be a greens keeper

[Dazed_and_Confused]

Continued...

And if you need an analysis of your golf swing in preparation for Q-School...

[Dazed_and_Confused]

-{ Quote: "$500.000.00 a week or you could be a greens keeper" }-

Maybe in the middle-east. Not much grass there... ;D

[ronjor]

Now this is Golf!

Indoor (http://www.aboutgolf.com/)

[Dazed_and_Confused]

-{ Quote: "Now this is Golf!

Indoor (http://www.aboutgolf.com/)" }-

Been There; Done That. Don't lose too many balls that way. ;D

[MickeyTheMan]

Most golf i've played in one day is 63 holes ! ( and no cart either ! Walking it ! )
Best score 72 with a hole in one that day ! :D

[bigc73542]

Thats a lot of golf :o

[ronjor]

-{ Quote: "Most golf i've played in one day is 63 holes !
Best score 72 with a hole in one that day ! :D" }-


I don't ever want to hear about the way Texans brag again!! That is hooking it up! 8)

[MickeyTheMan]

-{ Quote: "Thats a lot of golf :o" }-
I used to be quite an avid golf freak !
Drove from Ottawa, Canada to Myrtle beach, SC for a round of golf once !

[bigc73542]

Thats dedication ;)

[ronjor]

-{ Quote: "I used to be quite an avid golf freak !
Drove from Ottawa, Canada to Myrtle beach, SC for a round of golf once !" }-

What cured you of Golf??

[MickeyTheMan]

-{ Quote: "What cured you of Golf??" }-
Geez, i wonder if it might have anything to do why she left ?........................

[ssgtmax]

-{ Quote: "Most golf i've played in one day is 63 holes ! ( and no cart either ! Walking it ! )
Best score 72 with a hole in one that day ! :D" }-


....and to think I got accused of telling tall tales here! ;D ;D 8) 8)

[bigc73542]

Nah couldn't be that ::) -{ Quote: "Geez, i wonder if it might have anything to do why she left ?" }-

[ronjor]

-{ Quote: "....and to think I got accused of telling tall tales here! ;D ;D 8) 8)" }-


Need some boots Sarge?? ;D ;D 8)

[MickeyTheMan]

-{ Quote: "....and to think I got accused of telling tall tales here! ;D ;D 8) 8)" }-
I swear the god, no lies !
Except that the 72 score was not made on the day i played 63 holes !

[bigc73542]

Uh-huh ;)

[ssgtmax]

-{ Quote: "Need some boots Sarge?? ;D ;D 8)" }-

Full hip waders, RJ. ::) ::)
http://www.fogdog.com/graphics/product_images/p423528reg.jpg

[ronjor]

-{ Quote: "Full hip waders, RJ. ::) ::)
http://www.fogdog.com/graphics/product_images/p423528reg.jpg" }-


Definitely! ;D

[Dazed_and_Confused]

Let's not have any of that BS... ;D

[ssgtmax]

Played a round of crack-'o-dawn golf (5:50 tee time) today. 6,070 yds, par 72 from the white (duffer) tees. As usual, consistently inconsistent....49+42=91. And no sand trap trapped me. That almost never happens. :o

Played only 18, rode in the cart. Once again, NO hole-in-one.
http://a248.e.akamai.net/f/248/5462/2h//images.gamezone.com/screens/20/3/31/s20331_PS2_2.jpg

[ssgtmax]

For those parched Texas courses....THE FAIRWAY TEE! 8) 8)
http://www.golfun.net/novelty_pics/fairwaytee.jpg

Fully sanctioned by the USIGP.....
United Sates Illegal Golf Products!

[ssgtmax]

Talkin' 'bout....MY GAME >:( >:(
http://www.golfun.net/reynolds/rey_golfclubinhole350.jpg

[ronjor]

-{ Quote: "For those parched Texas courses....THE FAIRWAY TEE! 8) 8)
http://www.golfun.net/novelty_pics/fairwaytee.jpg

Fully sanctioned by the USIGP.....
United Sates Illegal Golf Products!" }-

What are you talking about? Looks legal to me! ;D ;D ;D

[ssgtmax]

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

18 REASONS WHY GOLF IS BETTER THAN SEX

18 - You don't have to sneak your golf magazines into the house.
17 - If you are having trouble with golf, it is perfectly acceptable to pay a professional to show you how to improve your technique.
16 - The Ten Commandments don't say anything about golf.
15 - If your partner takes pictures or videotapes of you golfing, you don't have to worry about them showing up on the Internet when you become famous.
14 - Your golf partner won't keep asking questions about other partners you've golfed with.
13 - It's perfectly respectable to golf with a total stranger.
12 - When you see a really good golfer, you don't have to feel guilty about imagining the two of you golfing together.
11 - If your regular golf partner isn't available, he/she won't object if you golf with someone else.
10 - Nobody will ever tell you that you will go blind if you golf by yourself.
9 - When dealing with a golf pro, you never have to wonder if they are really an undercover cop.
8 - You don't have to go to a sleazy shop in a seedy neighborhood to buy golf stuff.
7 - You can have a golf calendar on your wall at the office, tell golf jokes and invite coworkers to golf with you without getting sued for harassment.
6 - There is no such thing as a golf transmitted disease.
5 - If you want to watch golf on television, you don't have to subscribe to a premium cable channel.
4 - Nobody expects you to promise to golf with just one partner for the rest of your life.
3 - Nobody expects you to give up golfing if your partner loses interest in the game.
2 - You don't have to be a newlywed to plan a vacation primarily for the enjoyment of golf.
1 - Your golf partner will never say, "What? We just golfed last week! Is that all you ever think about?"

[Dazed_and_Confused]

-{ Quote: ";D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

18 REASONS WHY GOLF IS BETTER THAN SEX

18 - You don't have to sneak your golf magazines into the house.
17 - If you are having trouble with golf, it is perfectly acceptable to pay a professional to show you how to improve your technique.
16 - The Ten Commandments don't say anything about golf.
15 - If your partner takes pictures or videotapes of you golfing, you don't have to worry about them showing up on the Internet when you become famous.
14 - Your golf partner won't keep asking questions about other partners you've golfed with.
13 - It's perfectly respectable to golf with a total stranger.
12 - When you see a really good golfer, you don't have to feel guilty about imagining the two of you golfing together.
11 - If your regular golf partner isn't available, he/she won't object if you golf with someone else.
10 - Nobody will ever tell you that you will go blind if you golf by yourself.
9 - When dealing with a golf pro, you never have to wonder if they are really an undercover cop.
8 - You don't have to go to a sleazy shop in a seedy neighborhood to buy golf stuff.
7 - You can have a golf calendar on your wall at the office, tell golf jokes and invite coworkers to golf with you without getting sued for harassment.
6 - There is no such thing as a golf transmitted disease.
5 - If you want to watch golf on television, you don't have to subscribe to a premium cable channel.
4 - Nobody expects you to promise to golf with just one partner for the rest of your life.
3 - Nobody expects you to give up golfing if your partner loses interest in the game.
2 - You don't have to be a newlywed to plan a vacation primarily for the enjoyment of golf.
1 - Your golf partner will never say, "What? We just golfed last week! Is that all you ever think about?"" }-


No comment. ::)

[ssgtmax]

-{ Quote: "No comment. ::)" }-

WHAT??!! You always have a comment....http://pages.prodigy.net/rogerlori1/emoticons/director.gif

[Dazed_and_Confused]

-{ Quote: "WHAT??!! You always have a comment....http://pages.prodigy.net/rogerlori1/emoticons/director.gif" }-

I had one. I just didn't express it here. ;D


Edit: By the way, I did detect that subtle jab within your remark... ;)

[ronjor]

Allright you two!! :D

[Dazed_and_Confused]

-{ Quote: "Allright you two!! :D" }-

Too funny. I get the impression SSG needs to spend less time on the 18th hole, and more on the 19th. ;D

Edit: I would give my 20 reasons why Sex is better than golf, but I suspect Paul would object. ;D ;) ;D ;)

[Dazed_and_Confused]

Got a new puppy today. :) :) Do you think he would make a good caddy?;D

[ssgtmax]

-{ Quote: "Got a new puppy today. :) :) Do you think he would make a good caddy?;D" }-

Too many....uh....trees on the course to distract him! ;D ;D ;D

[ronjor]

-{ Quote: "Got a new puppy today. :) :) Do you think he would make a good caddy?;D" }-


We've been searching for Dog ???

[ssgtmax]

-{ Quote: "We've been searching for Dog ???" }-

Left turn, no signal....nuttin' 2 do with golf or dog:

ronjor & Dazed -

Just returned from Dodger Stadium after watchin' my Boys in Blue put a 3-1 whuppin' on Clemens & the 'Stros. ;) Great game. One bad pitch by The Rocket....a 3-run dinger by Paul LoDuca. Man, I wish I coulda thrown 94 mph @ age 40!

I'd start a separate baseball thread, but I don't know if anybody here is interested. ???

[ronjor]

-{ Quote: "Left turn, no signal....nuttin' 2 do with golf or dog:

ronjor & Dazed -

Just returned from Dodger Stadium after watchin' my Boys in Blue put a 3-1 whuppin' on Clemens & the 'Stros. ;) Great game. One bad pitch by The Rocket....a 3-run dinger by Paul LoDuca. Man, I wish I coulda thrown 94 mph @ age 40!

I'd start a separate baseball thread, but I don't know if anybody here is interested. ???" }-

There is a term for the Astros here---snakebit. They are always just a little off.
Great players, alltime winning record, etc. They just never can quite get over the hump.

[Dazed_and_Confused]

-{ Quote: "I'd start a separate baseball thread, but I don't know if anybody here is interested. ???" }-You start talking about baseball, and that's when I exit... ;) Can't stand to watch the game. Now, I enjoy going to the stadium and drinking with the girls, but the game is BORING! Nothing personal, SSG.

[ssgtmax]

-{ Quote: "You start talking about baseball, and that's when I exit... ;) Can't stand to watch the game. Now, I enjoy going to the stadium and drinking with the girls, but the game is BORING! Nothing personal, SSG." }-

Of course. Nothing personal.

[ssgtmax]

-{ Quote: "You start talking about baseball, and that's when I exit... ;) Can't stand to watch the game. Now, I enjoy going to the stadium and drinking with the girls, but the game is BORING! Nothing personal, SSG." }-

Yikes!!! Forgot the attachment....

[ssgtmax]

The rules do matter.

Sam Snead, like any pro golfer worth his salt & reputation, was always a stickler for the Rules of Golf. Being a great storyteller, he would sometimes spin this yarn about why rules (and strict adherence to them) can be so important....

Sam was known to wager a few bucks on a round. One day he'd bet a pretty sizeable sum with a hotshot amateur player looking to beat the master & fleece his wallet. Long about the 5th hole or so, the amateur player teed up his ball about 6" or so in front of the tee markers & prepared to hit his drive.

Sam said, "Whadda ya doin' there, young fella? Teeing up in front of the tees is not allowed."

The amateur replied, "Hey, it doesn't make that much difference in a friendly game. You can do the same."

"OK," replied Sam.

After the amateur player hit his tee shot, Sam stood on the tee box for a moment with his ball & tee in hand. He then took off in full stride down the fairway. Mr. Amateur yelled, "Hey, where ya goin'?! You haven't hit yet."

Over his shoulder Sam replied, "As long as we can tee up in front of the markers, I'm gonna head down here a couple hundred yards & find a REALLY NICE SPOT."

[Dazed_and_Confused]

HaHa! I remember a very similar story about why "gimme" shots should not be allowed. ;D;D


Gimme: A shot, usually on the green, but that may be anywhere on the course, that is conceded by a player’s opponent. Gimmees are usually applied to short putts that are almost certain to be holed

[ronjor]

The laws of golf
LAW 1: No matter how bad your last shot was, the worst is yet to come. This law does not expire on the 18th hole, since it has the supernatural tendency to extend over the course of a tournament, a summer and, eventually, a lifetime.

LAW 2: Your best round of golf will be followed almost immediately by your worst round ever. The probability of the latter increases with the number of people you tell about the former.

LAW 3: Brand new golf balls are water-magnetic. Though this cannot be proven in the lab, it is a known fact that the more expensive the golf ball, the greater its attraction to water.

LAW 4: Golf balls never bounce off of trees back into play. If one does, the tree is breaking a law of the universe and should be cut down.

LAW 5: No matter what causes a golfer to muff a shot, all his playing partners must solemnly chant "You looked up," or invoke the wrath of the universe.

LAW 6: The higher a golfer's handicap, the more qualified he deems himself as an instructor.

LAW 7: Every par-three hole in the world has a secret desire to humiliate golfers. The shorter the hole, the greater its desire.

LAW 8: Topping a 3-iron is the most painful torture known to man.

LAW 9: Palm trees eat golf balls.

LAW 10: Sand is alive. If it isn't, how do you explain the way it works against you?

LAW 11: Golf carts always run out of juice at the farthest point from the clubhouse.

LAW 12: A golfer hitting into your group will always be bigger than anyone in your group. Likewise, a group you accidentally hit into will consist of a football player, a professional wrestler, a convicted murderer and an IRS agent -- or some similar combination.

LAW 13: All 3-woods are demon-possessed.

LAW 14: Golf balls from the same "sleeve" tend to follow one another, particularly out of bounds or into the water (See Law three).

LAW 15: A severe slice is a thing of awesome power and beauty.

LAW 16: "Nice lag" can usually be translated to "lousy putt." Similarly, "tough break" can usually be translated "way to miss an easy one, sucker."

LAW 17: The person you would most hate to lose to will always be the one who beats you.

LAW 18: The last three holes of a round will automatically adjust your score to what it really should be.

LAW 19: Golf should be given up at least twice per month.

LAW 20: All vows taken on a golf course shall be valid only until the sunset.

[Dazed_and_Confused]

-{ Quote: "LAW 5: No matter what causes a golfer to muff a shot, all his playing partners must solemnly chant "You looked up," or invoke the wrath of the universe.
" }-

Ha! Ain't that the truth. Or maybe "You didn't keep your left arm straight". ::)

[ronjor]

Fred got home from his Sunday round of golf later than normal and very tired. "Bad day at the course?" his wife asked.

"Everything was going fine," he said. "Then Harry had a heart attack and died on the 10th tee."

"Oh, that's awful!"

"You're not kidding. For the whole back nine it was hit the ball, drag Harry, hit the ball, drag Harry."

[Dazed_and_Confused]

-{ Quote: "Fred got home from his Sunday round of golf later than normal and very tired. "Bad day at the course?" his wife asked.

"Everything was going fine," he said. "Then Harry had a heart attack and died on the 10th tee."

"Oh, that's awful!"

"You're not kidding. For the whole back nine it was hit the ball, drag Harry, hit the ball, drag Harry."" }-
Yeah, I hate when that happens. ;D