Political Links: Where To Go

[Prince_Serendip]

:) With apologies to Forum Admin: this posting is not for political commentary. Please close this thread if you like. Below are provided some links for those who need to vent their views on a political forum!

Participate at Pollcaster (http://www.pollcaster.com/)

USA and World News Forum (http://pub49.ezboard.com/firrationalexuberancefrm1)

Political Ramblings Forum with horrible spelling, punctuation and grammar! (http://brumley.com/boards/politicsboard.html)

These are some places to go if you need to be heard. Thank you for your indulgence. ;)

[Checkout]

Also www.globalaffairs.com (though I think this is now .biz but I could be wrong. ZX is a mod there.)

[Jooske]

Thanks for your links.
In that case you might be interested in the news group SpeakIt created several months ago which is not especially only political, but where people can speak out and discuss what they want that which is not always really welcome in other places, in a mature way.
www.topica.com/lists/Speakit

[Paul Wilders]

Hi Prince and all,

Thanks for posting this :).

To set the record straight:

At times, there's a shimmery twilight zone in regard to security/privacy issues and politics; there's no way around that. As long as all is focussed on the securiy/privacy issue primarly, in essence there's no problem in posting over on this board. Our team might intervene in case we feel the need to do so.

That said: we don't have a political forum for purely political issues - that's our choice, and will remain so. Thus, anyone who feels the need to vent political views: this board is not the place to be. In this context your post is much appreciated.

regards.

paul

[Prince_Serendip]

:) Hi Paul!

You are most welcome!

Thank you for making this a Sticky-Topic. I was inspired by the closing of a political thread, the author of which shall remain nameless in this context. It seemed to me that should anyone have the need to vent their political spleen, they should have some means to do so, other than at this board. I am happy you like it!

Best regards from Larry! :)

[TomNativeNewYorker]

Here is a site to see all the info concerning voting and about the issues associated.

http://www.vote-smart.org/

[Jooske]

http://www.dubyadubyadubya.com/

Well worth the waiting, you might have to reload or replay the page to have it all. ::)

[sk]

-{ Quote: " quoting: Jooske link=board=27;threadid=3631;start=0#35502 date=1039682771]
http://www.dubyadubyadubya.com/

Well worth the waiting, you might have to reload or replay the page to have it all. ::)
" }-All I'm getting is a TV with a small box in the upper left hand corner, a 'done' in the status bar, and that's it. ???

[sk]

-{ Quote: " quoting: Forum Admin link=board=27;threadid=3631;start=0#24385 date=1031908556]
Hi Prince and all,

Thanks for posting this :).

To set the record straight:

At times, there's a shimmery twilight zone in regard to security/privacy issues and politics; there's no way around that. As long as all is focussed on the securiy/privacy issue primarly, in essence there's no problem in posting over on this board. Our team might intervene in case we feel the need to do so.

That said: we don't have a political forum for purely political issues - that's our choice, and will remain so. Thus, anyone who feels the need to vent political views: this board is not the place to be. In this context your post is much appreciated.

regards.

paul
" }-Well, if you don't mind, I'd like to ask a specific question to see exactly where it falls in terms of what you said. Is it appropriate to post the following question or type of question?

"Do members here feel the proposed Bush administration request that ISP's allow government operatives to have access to private user's accounts will negatively impact one's personal Internet computing security/privacy, or not?"
(And a follow up, Mr. Moderator :D "And if you feel it will negatively impact one's personal Internet computing security/pricacy, what steps do you think need to be taken under those circumstances?"

Respectfully submitted,
sk

[luv2bsecure]

Hello SK!

Your post asking if it would be appropriate to post it is perfectly within the guidelines of Wilders. Yes, it's obviously a political issue. However, it deals directly with Internet security/snooping/privacy. Yes, feel free to post in the "Privacy General" forum.

All the best,
John
Luv2BSecure

[Jooske]

The dubya... site needs flashplayer, maybe a reload will help. Worth the trouble of trying it out and allowing such a player.

[sk]

-{ Quote: " quoting: Jooske link=board=27;threadid=3631;start=0#38099 date=1041043684]
The dubya... site needs flashplayer, maybe a reload will help. Worth the trouble of trying it out and allowing such a player.
" }-Thanks. I thought I had flash player installed. If not, I can get the latest version at the Macromedia site, right?

sk

[sk]

-{ Quote: " quoting: luv2bsecure link=board=27;threadid=3631;start=0#38097 date=1041042709]
Hello SK!

Your post asking if it would be appropriate to post it is perfectly within the guidelines of Wilders. Yes, it's obviously a political issue. However, it deals directly with Internet security/snooping/privacy. Yes, feel free to post in the "Privacy General" forum.

All the best,
John
Luv2BSecure
" }- Thanks, but it looks as if that subject has more or less already been covered. But at least now I know in which forum to look. :)
sk

[Jooske]

http://www.counterpunch.org/nimmo01022003.html
Nice article now about internet security...........

[sk]

-{ Quote: " quoting: Jooske link=board=27;threadid=3631;start=0#35502 date=1039682771]
http://www.dubyadubyadubya.com/

Well worth the waiting, you might have to reload or replay the page to have it all. ::)
" }- NOW I got it. Thanks, jooske. (One of the final things that pushed me over the edge to do a full reinstall last week was the fact that no matter what I did I could not install and run flash, and I really wanted to see what you posted. Now I can; very cool link! I also liked the SpeakIt link too.)

sk

[Jooske]

Thank you! I created that SpeakIt ng as i was thrown out too often from other groups for telling my truth and i wanted to create a place on internet where people can speak their heart out as long as they do respect and not flame each other. By hiding it somewhat it has not the mass traffic but it is also rather constructive conversation and no waste of time.
I really like what the people come up with from everywhere, lot is really interesting.

One of the members there posted the dubyadubya link time ago and i like it really, it says it all :)

Glad you have your system working again! The few times i like to allow flash on websites i want to be able to see it. Had the problem myself some time ago too, don't quite remember how i solved it: think by allowing the receiving of email in the internet zone in OE, which has immediate impact on IE too. Strange but true, those are so mixed through one another! And in IE probably allowing some java as well as in the fw playing of animations allowed.
My problem was really serious that time as i could not see any msagent script anymore from the newsgroups!
That stupid setting and maybe one more in IE brought it all back to normal and flashplaying :)

[sk]

Kewl. For me it was, unfortunately, the re-install route. And yes, I noticed that you were the owner of the site so I figured that meant you started it. I'll IM you with a site-related question so it doesn't throw this thread O/T, but I did want to respond and let you know I followed up on your posts here.

sk

[Jooske]

http://www.takebackthemedia.com/bushnonazi.html
You're welcome.
This one does fit in a place for global awareness.

[dqa]

Hi Jooske,

Thanks for that link, I enjoyed it.

dqa

;D ;D ;D

[Jooske]

You're welcome :)
You'll probably have to look it various times; if you click on the home (upper right) > movies (upper left button) there are several more...... The whole site has lots of info.
Hope it shakes people awake and aware.

[solarpowered candle]

WOW Thankz Joosky

[Jooske]

It's not my habit to promote anything not software or computer related here, but i noticed several forum members visit the SpeakIt newsgroup set up to speak your heart out where the main item at the moment is mostly political, but it spares Wilders some bandwidth. Thanks for who found it already or are going to soon.
www.topica.com/lists/SpeakIt ; you can read on line if you want, i kept the archives open, only for posting there or receiving the people's postings in your email a (free) subscription is necessary.
I can't promise it's always fun, but now the times are hardening, and free speech is certainly a subject.
Let's keep eyes open for all aspects of our security.

[jamming]

"Take back the media" and "dubyadubya" are really not places of the quality of discussion that takes place at "Global Affairs". Comparing the two to "Global" is sort of like getting the governments view of an issue versus the in depth discussion with a lot of points from both sides.

[Jooske]

http://www.warprecords.com/
Latest speech, allow sound, speakers on.

[sk]

Too f*ckin funny, jooske!
(Sad, but funny nonetheless. lol)

sk

[Jooske]

Ok guys abd gals, a little exercize won't hurt, won't it? Was posted on my ng.

GAME/ Thousands log on to blow up virtual Busshh.
Thousands log on to blow up virtual Bush... DOVES DUMP ON DUBYA We wait with bated breath for the FBI to arrest these thousands, including the Fedgovt employees...

PRESS RELEASE
For immediate broadcast and print
09/03/2003
STARTS HERE
Thousands log on to blow up virtual Bush

An online game that pits players as a defecating peace dove against American President George W. Bush, is attracting thousands of plays a day, including from American government departments.

The game was launched last week by the South African student website "GET A LIFE" ( http://www.gal.co.za ).

"We're able to monitor where hits are coming from," says Andy Hadfield of gAL. He adds "The game is very popular in Germany, England, South Africa and France."

"It's also clear that some hits are coming from American government departments including intelligence agencies," says Hadfield, "we haven't recorded anything yet though from the White House."

The game is set in the UN Security Council. The object of the game is to help a peace dove defecate on Bush, and to evade missiles being shot by Donald Rumsfeld, the US defense secretary. German foreign minister Fischer appears now and again as an angel, and tries in vain to stop the pandemonium in the Security Council Chambers, crying out "order, order, order". The game is won once Bush explodes into a nuclear mushroom, and is lost if the peace dove has been hit once too often by Rumsfeld's missiles.

The game ends with a quote from Nelson Mandela accusing Bush of driving the world towards a holocaust.

"I think people have a lot of pent up anger and frustration at the prospect of a war, and are using the game to get rid of some of it," says Hadfield.

The game is available online at http://www.gal.co.za .
ENDS

Second:
This is cute, music & action. After loading click "on" the first button on right To have him do different dance steps, click on any of the buttons on left.

I had disco light, spotlights and dance floor to mine as well.

Site is interesting too, check out the rest while in there. nutmeg wrote:

Look, I know some of us like him and some of us don't but hey - let's have some fun. You only live twice, or so it seems - one life for yourself, and one for your dreams.

http://www.miniclip.com/dancingbush.htm

"Dance away your heartache, dance away your tears" --- Bryan Ferry

[solarpowered candle]

Internet site from the heart of Bagdad. A very interesting daily look into a families daily experiences via the internet http://dear_raed.blogspot.com/

[Tinribs]

Thanks for that link SPC, this war worries me, being a bit of an old hippy I'm concerned about innocent people whatever the circumstances be it war or not.

Its actually something I have been looking for, again thanks.

[controler]

""We're able to monitor where hits are coming from," says Andy Hadfield of gAL. He adds "The game is very popular in Germany, England, South Africa and France."



Why was this site getting so many hits?

Well duh? these are the same countries that are in bed with Iraq ::)

Oh but there is one country that really shines. (Russia)
yes it is true, Russia has been selling GPS jamming equipment to the Iraqi's as early as last week.

The world situation is not funny anymore :-[
this truly is a one sided political site.

[Jooske]

http://www.newyorker.com/fact/content/?030331fa_fact1
Some backgrounds here.
Another interesting uncommon site www.brojon.com

BTW i noticed the Speakt postings in html are not displayed via the web, i'm sorry for that, as i can't change that in no way. So the only way is to subscribe (free) and receive it all in the email.

[Technodrome]

Usefull links;

http://www.unitedforpeace.org/

http://www.notowar.com

http://www.tinkin.com/

http://www.indymedia.org

http://www.moveon.org/

http://www.democracynow.org/

http://iraqbodycount.net/

http://www.austinagainstwar.org/

http://www.endthewar.org/default-new.htm

http://www.unitedforpeace.org/


Technodrome

[Jooske]

Thanks TD, several are very famous all over internet, fortunately and where possible in petitions from them you'll see my name too. Of course!

[Technodrome]

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fortunately and where possible in petitions from them you'll see my name too. Of course!
" }-

http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif


Technodrome

[Jooske]

War websites by the troops themselves:
War-themed blogs, appearing on sites like www.blogsofwar.com and
www.sgtstryker.com, have become a popular alternative news source since
fighting broke out in Iraq a week ago, sometimes beating newspapers and
television with war developments.
One of the most popular is a site run by "L.T. Smash," the blog nickname for
a reservist in the U.S. Navy who arrived in the Gulf last December. His
site, www.lt-smash.us, carries the moniker "Live from the sandbox."
He is not alone. Will, a 29-year-old U.S. Army Reservist and self-proclaimed
"computer geek," set up a blog site at http://rooba.net/will.
"Blogs of War" and other sites sometimes beat traditional sources with the
latest war news.

[Jooske]

It's been quite some time we've kept you really informed here, isn't it? So to keep you guys and gals updated here is another must read, highly recommended.

Google knows it all!

http://www.rense.com/general38/wep.htm

Weapons Of Mass Destruction
7-12-3

Go to http://www.google.com and type in

weapons of mass destruction

then click the "Im Feeling Lucky" button just below the place where you enter the text.

Make sure to read it all and follow every link you can click on.

[Zhen-Xjell]

-{ Quote: " quoting: Checkout link=board=27;threadid=3631;start=0#msg24374 date=1031904033]
Also www.globalaffairs.com (though I think this is now .biz but I could be wrong. ZX is a mod there.)
" }-Used to be a mod there, although I know the owner (Leon Keylin, aka ethics). Its been a while since we last talked. He's been running that "site" since the old compuserve days.

[Jooske]

This links to an article about the power outage.
http://www.gregpalast.com/detail.cfm?artid=257&row=0

[Jooske]

http://globalresearch.ca/articles/SEA308A.html
One moer about same subject of above.

[Cochise]

I realise that this thread is sort of not used much but I have suddenly realised something of a defect in the 'Cookie' system......as I read thro' the comments I realised that I, a total div as far as Puter knowhow goes and only contributes trite drivel to this illustrious Forum, have 81 Karmas, where as a guy like Zhen-Xjell, who has, so obviously, got the knowhow and ability to leave most of us for dead has only 71????........That Can't be right...can it? ???

Regards, Cochise, 8)

[spy1]

Since we don't do political here, I post now and then here:

http://www.computercops.biz/forum27.html

(ZX probably recognizes that one! <g>).

There's entirely too much negative stuff going on in America for us all not to have somewhere to post/learn.

If the word "America" does anything at all to your heart - go give that one a look.

Participate.

Get involved.

Help us fix it.

Pete

[iceni60]

Bush Vs Kerry
http://www.t45ol.com/play_flash_us.php?ID=927

[Prince_Serendip]

I am very happy to see that this thread is still here and doing well! This was/is a good idea. Thank you everyone and keep the faith (in whatever you choose to believe). 8)

[Marja]

WOW Prince!! A lo-ong time since I have seen you post!! How are you??!!:)

Here is where I give my fantasy/science fiction/mystery books to:

www.booksforsoldiers.com (http://www.booksforsoldiers.com), they need something to occupy their minds, besides the "usual".

Some new blogs can be found at http//:blogspot.com, many have been removed ........?

www.docinthebox.blogspot.com (http://www.docinthebox.blogspot.com) - a medic with humor

www.kokasexton.com (http://www.kokasexton.com) - writing about adjusting to being home again

www.thequestingcat.com (http://www.thequestingcat.com) - adjusting to being in Iraq

www.optruth.com (http://www.optruth.com) - this is mostly written by soldiers who have returned home, who want the American people to know the truth about Iraqi war.
They also have a non-profit called "OperationTruth", non-partisan, too.

www.desertdiet.blogspot.com (http://www.desertdiet.blogspot.com) - a woman's point of view


The descriptions are just the letters I read, on the days I read them, they may have changed by now.


Cheers!!

Marja8)

[slammer_JvA]

G.W.B.

Here's another nice link (http://www.severin.ch/gwb/) for y'all! ;) :P


(Pity the reality and consequences of this election are no games at all...!:-\ )

[slammer_JvA]

And here's (http://files.goyk.com/files0729/flash/games/democratrepublican.swf) yet another Useful Voter Guide (http://files.goyk.com/files0729/flash/games/democratrepublican.swf);D

[Marja]

Greetings All!

Here is another blog wrote by a Shia Iraqi woman. Wish I could post it

OUT of this box, it needs to be heard- another side to the craziness of

the BushWa.

Bagdad Burning http://riverbendblog.blogspot.com/

This is from Bush' Hometown paper! www.iconoclast-texas.com (http://www.iconoclast-texas.com) . Needless to say, this article has gotten the paper in a WHOLE mess of trouble. Hey, at least they still believe in Free Speech!

Thanks for taking the time to look around here!! It's important, should be required reading for all voters!

[slammer_JvA]

Doctors fighting for Yasser Arafats life?
What will this eventual death bring to the world..... :-\

Yasser Arafat 'very, very sick' (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3960237.stm)

[slammer_JvA]

Hangover?
Thought you were dreaming?
Take a look overhere (http://www.liquidgeneration.com/poptoons/bush_beastie.asp)
And the winner (really!) is ....

[slammer_JvA]

Want some quotes (http://host.oddcast.com/bush_host.php)?




(Just couldn't resist...:P ;) )

[slammer_JvA]

Hang in there, Ukraine!

Sure hope you keep it all peaceful overthere and be rewarded with what you deserve in the end: a real democracy!

Orange greetings,

slammer

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/4048965.stm

[big ed]

It's a shame that the rest of the World can not hold elections following the example set here in the US using the age old saying of "Do unto others before they do unto you"!

Optomistically, big ed