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cfp999
September 2nd, 2002, 05:33 PM
Are there any Anti-Trojans that will also check for spybots/spyware and evil dialup pests?
UNICRON
September 2nd, 2002, 05:42 PM
There are. TDS-3 found at http://www.diamondcs.com.au does, but for dialers and keyloggers, i recommend the freeware spybot search and destroy at http://patrick.kolla.de/spybotsd.html
. It improves every day.
cfp999
September 2nd, 2002, 05:47 PM
Thank you. Spybot - Search & Destroy looks promising.
UNICRON
September 2nd, 2002, 05:52 PM
Nobody who tried it ever said anything bad about it here.
DrSeltsam
September 3rd, 2002, 01:42 AM
YAW is a dialer warner coded by me that is able to detect more than 280.000 dialers at the moment. Dialers are a very serious problem in germany, swiss and austria. You may download the german version at www.yaw.at. ANTS 2.2 has the "scan for dialers" feature of YAW 3.5, too and will be available in english.
UNICRON
September 3rd, 2002, 01:49 AM
{QUOTE-> quoting: Andreas Haak link=board=25;threadid=3408;start=0#23022 date=1031031728]
YAW is a dialer warner coded by me that is able to detect more than 280.000 dialers at the moment. Dialers are a very serious problem in germany, swiss and austria. You may download the german version at www.yaw.at. ANTS 2.2 has the "scan for dialers" feature of YAW 3.5, too and will be available in english.
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Excellent. Dailers are no problem for me since I am on cable but it is good to know there are multiple solutions.
cfp999
September 3rd, 2002, 07:36 AM
Thanks Andreas, sounds great. Just downloaded it. I really like the update function too.
Checkout
September 3rd, 2002, 12:41 PM
{QUOTE-> quoting: Andreas Haak link=board=25;threadid=3408;start=0#23022 date=1031031728]
YAW is a dialer warner coded by me that is able to detect more than 280.000 dialers <-QUOTE}
Excuse me, Andreas, but...over a quarter of a million diallers? Are whole nations devoting themselves to producing these evil bits of rubbish? ???
DrSeltsam
September 3rd, 2002, 12:48 PM
>Excuse me, Andreas, but...over a quarter of a million diallers? Are whole nations
>devoting themselves to producing these evil bits of rubbish?
That is NO joke. There is one firm in germany for example (Crosskirk) that releases more than 10.000 new dialer variants DAILY. Most of them are detected with family signatures (webdialer 1 - 4). I think in germany there are more dialer variants and versions as malware worldwide.
TonyKlein
September 3rd, 2002, 12:55 PM
According to this some dialers are trying to, and succeeding in sabotaging YAW 3.01, much the same way as the RadLight Media Player did to Ad-Aware some time ago.:
http://www.pcwelt.de/news/viren_bugs/24406/
DrSeltsam
September 3rd, 2002, 01:20 PM
YAW 3.5 is immune to process kills ;o).
TonyKlein
September 3rd, 2002, 01:26 PM
That's good! :D
Does it have many other dialers in its database aside German ones?
It looks like an awesome little app.
DrSeltsam
September 3rd, 2002, 02:13 PM
At the moment detection for german and non german dialers are included (mostley they are the same and only dial diffrent numbers depending on system). The heuristic detects dialers using CAPI, RAS, TAPI, COM ports (API + COMM32) and WININET API.
TonyKlein
September 3rd, 2002, 02:32 PM
Great! :)
I'm surprised that I haven't seen it mentioned before.
That should change when the English language version is ready, I bet.
DrSeltsam
September 3rd, 2002, 02:35 PM
0190 dialers are only a problem in austria, swiss and germany.
diginsight
September 4th, 2002, 05:59 PM
{QUOTE-> quoting: Andreas Haak link=board=25;threadid=3408;start=0#23162 date=1031078118]
0190 dialers are only a problem in austria, swiss and germany.
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I'm living in The Netherlands and lately I've seen two reports of people with modems who had seen a large increase in their phone bills. One of my users reported a € 200 increase solely to unknown 0900 numbers and a fellow network admin informed me about a user with a € 2000 phone bill. Most likely 0900 modem dialers used in The Netherlands. I'm adviced the user to show me his PC so I can take a look and also advised him to inform the phone company.
DrSeltsam
September 4th, 2002, 06:01 PM
Does anyone knows more "problems" with dialers outside the german speaking area?
FanJ
September 4th, 2002, 06:36 PM
{QUOTE-> quoting: diginsight link=board=25;threadid=3408;start=15#23316 date=1031176768]
{QUOTE-> quoting: Andreas Haak link=board=25;threadid=3408;start=0#23162 date=1031078118]
0190 dialers are only a problem in austria, swiss and germany.
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I'm living in The Netherlands and lately I've seen two reports of people with modems who had seen a large increase in their phone bills. One of my users reported a € 200 increase solely to unknown 0900 numbers and a fellow network admin informed me about a user with a € 2000 phone bill. Most likely 0900 modem dialers used in The Netherlands. I'm adviced the user to show me his PC so I can take a look and also advised him to inform the phone company.
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Hi diginsight,
On a side note (from your fellow Dutchie):
I guess you knew this already, but you can let the Telecom company KPN block all kind of 0900, 0909, 0906 numbers.
Have a look at your (in Dutch) "telefoonboek", section "Tele Info ServiceWijzer".
I wonder why these people didn't block those kind of numbers.
Anyhow, the behaviour of those dialers is of course very, very bad.
Cheers, Jan.
diginsight
September 5th, 2002, 07:10 AM
The user was using Twinner by Essent, because it offers Internet dial-up for 0,5 cent per minute. I referred him to to service page where he can disable which 0900 numbers he wants to disable. I strongly adviced him to at least disable the 0906 adult entertainment numbers.
cfp999
September 5th, 2002, 05:21 PM
Here in Denmark it is also a problem. Recently the consumers' advisory council demanded that tele operators should block international calls for certain countries as well as 0900 numbers, all because of dialers. I'm sure YAW would get a lot of attention if more people knew about it.
notageek
September 5th, 2002, 07:40 PM
I would try YAW but I can't read German. Plus I'm not sure if they have a problem with dialers here in America. I have never had the problem before. I been using Spybot S&D and a program name Spysites. Maybe when I learn german or someone makes an english plugin I'll try YAW. ;D
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