View Full Version : looking for a wiper/eraser that wipe and fill with 00
mantra
May 10th, 2012, 05:55 AM
Hi
i used eraser and erasedrop to shrredder/wipe some Files
almost every wiper have at least 1 pass pseudorandom feature
i guess they fill with radon data
i'm looking for a wiper that fill with 00 data (zero write)
is there one?
thanks
cheers
xxJackxx
May 10th, 2012, 07:15 AM
I know O&O SafeErase has that option, as well as many others. Not free.
http://www.oo-software.com/en/products/oosafeerase/index.html?r=s
TheKid7
May 10th, 2012, 07:16 AM
-{ Quote: "Hi
i'm looking for a wiper that fill with 00 data
is there one?" }-
When you say 00 data, I assume that you mean "zero write" to all hard drive sectors.
There are many wipers that will do this.
Typically, the hard drive manufacturer's bootable Diagnostics Disks have a "zero write" option.
Some freeware options are:
1. Terabyte's Copy/Wipe bootable CD
2. Partition Wizard bootable CD
I have a license to BootIt Bare Metal which has several wipe options including a "zero write" to all hard drive sectors. BootIt Bare Metal is not free.
xxJackxx
May 10th, 2012, 07:23 AM
-{ Quote: "...i'm looking for a wiper that fill with 00 data
is there one?..." }-
It should probably be clarified if you are looking for something to wipe the entire drive or just free space on a non-empty drive.
mantra
May 10th, 2012, 09:04 AM
-{ Quote: "When you say 00 data, I assume that you mean "zero write" to all hard drive sectors.
There are many wipers that will do this.
Typically, the hard drive manufacturer's bootable Diagnostics Disks have a "zero write" option.
Some freeware options are:
1. Terabyte's Copy/Wipe bootable CD
2. Partition Wizard bootable CD
I have a license to BootIt Bare Metal which has several wipe options including a "zero write" to all hard drive sectors. BootIt Bare Metal is not free." }-
sorry i was not precise
i'm looking for a file wiper and not hard disk
and yes i mean zero write
thanks
mantra
May 10th, 2012, 09:05 AM
-{ Quote: "It should probably be clarified if you are looking for something to wipe the entire drive or just free space on a non-empty drive." }-
i wasn't precise
i did mean file wiper/shredder
jdd58
May 10th, 2012, 09:34 AM
Hardwipe has that option.
-http://www.hardwipe.com/
TheKid7
May 10th, 2012, 10:17 AM
Spybot Search & Destroy has a file shreader. I am not sure how it shreds the file. It uses the term "chops". You can change the number of "chops".
TheKid7
May 10th, 2012, 10:22 AM
CrapCleaner has a File Shredder/Eraser that allows you several options for the overwrite method used.
mantra
May 10th, 2012, 11:00 AM
-{ Quote: "CrapCleaner has a File Shredder/Eraser that allows you several options for the overwrite method used." }-
yes
but pass pseudorandom, i guess
xxJackxx
May 10th, 2012, 11:14 AM
-{ Quote: "i wasn't precise
i did mean file wiper/shredder" }-
My original recommendation of O&O SafeErase still stands then. There is a free trial period available if you want to test it to see if it is the product for you.
andyman35
May 10th, 2012, 11:44 AM
The portable tool called Blank And Secure might be what you're after:
http://softwareok.com/?seite=Microsoft/BlankAndSecure
Another option could be DP Shredder:
http://www.softpedia.com/get/Security/Secure-cleaning/DP-Shredder.shtml
PaulyDefran
May 10th, 2012, 12:46 PM
You can create a 'Zero Fill' pattern in Eraser ( I use 5.8.8 ). Go into the erasing preferences where it lists all the algorithms and click 'Add'. There you will get the option to set the pattern...it auto fills with zeros by default.
PD
Warlockz
May 10th, 2012, 11:57 PM
EDIT: I was under the impression you were looking for something to wipe the entire drive not just the freespace, but i guess ill still leave my comment because others may get something out of it!
Many people don't know this, but if your using a Modern Hard Drive it has a built in feature called Secure Erase.
http://cmrr.ucsd.edu/people/Hughes/SecureErase.shtml
you can download the secure erase utility here (http://cmrr.ucsd.edu/people/Hughes/SecureErase.shtml) which will enable you to wipe your drive using secure erase.
This is one of the best ways to wipe a drive IMO! because it overwrites bad sectors, unlike other wiping tools...
You can read this PDF Tutorial on Disk Drive Sanitation (http://cmrr.ucsd.edu/people/Hughes/DataSanitizationTutorial.pdf) for a better understanding of it!
happyyarou666
May 11th, 2012, 12:08 AM
thou this might not be for the job you are looking for ill leave my 2 cents as well , just use dban with autonuke command, for complete sanatized hdd cleans, factory fresh or simply use an industrial strength shredder on the hdd, that should securely dispose of it :thumb:....but wait theres more ...its free ..dban that is , not sure bout the shredder xD
p.s: warlockz is right about newer hdds having secure erase feature btw , thou most people already know about it ;)
Warlockz
May 11th, 2012, 12:29 AM
Relying on overwriting freespace is dangerous because that file could have traces of it in many places in the OS or other 3rd party software aswell on your Hard Drive. windows basically makes records of everything on your drive unless you tell it not to by disabling many services. system restore, shadow, search, registry, thumbs.db ect, ect, ect, you also have file/cluster tips to worry about which can hold pieces of data, so if their is an option in your wiper to wipe file/cluster tips enable it.
I will recommend East-Tech Eraser, R-wipe and clean, or CCleaner with CCleaner Enhancer, but its still not 100% unless you wipe your entire drive. and im unsure if CCleaner wipes Cluster/File Tips?
The use of Full Disk Encryption is advised if your dealing with sensitive files!
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Warlockz
May 11th, 2012, 12:33 AM
-{ Quote: " just use dban with autonuke command........" }-
Dban doesn't overwrite Bad sectors, and you never know what could be stuck in bad sectors. if their is any bad sectors?
-{ Quote: "thou most people already know about it" }-
most people just want to get on the Internet and are clueless about the features in their own machines! unless their like us probably less than 10% of users on security forums ect
RADEON0101
May 11th, 2012, 01:20 AM
Then what you need is HardWipe
http://hardwipe.com/
This is what I use, and it's 100% Free. I honestly think it's the best file wiper I have used.
tobie1
May 11th, 2012, 07:41 AM
What about the AVG shredder? Does anybody know if that's good?
acuariano
May 11th, 2012, 12:29 PM
there is a file wiper name Zero..i forget where the website is.
but looks good, and it has a right click option in recycle bin.
Nebulus
May 11th, 2012, 05:37 PM
-{ Quote: "
i used eraser and erasedrop to shrredder/wipe some Files
[...]
i'm looking for a wiper that fill with 00 data (zero write)
is there one?
thanks
cheers" }-
Keep using Eraser :) As someone else said, you can define a zero fill pattern and use it to erase the file with zeros.
LockBox
May 11th, 2012, 07:37 PM
Mantra made a clarification back several posts:
"i wasn't precise. i did mean file wiper/shredder."
He doesn't want to wipe a whole drive, he doesn't want to wipe free space, he wants to shred files (and with all zeros).
I think the Eraser with custom wipe is your best option, mantra. Easy right-click erasure and it's effective.
mantra
May 20th, 2012, 02:21 PM
-{ Quote: "You can create a 'Zero Fill' pattern in Eraser ( I use 5.8.8 ). Go into the erasing preferences where it lists all the algorithms and click 'Add'. There you will get the option to set the pattern...it auto fills with zeros by default.
PD" }-
i downloaded the portable version 5.8.8.1 from the portable webpage
but i did warn me , everytime
look the screenshots
thanks
cheers
PaulyDefran
May 21st, 2012, 11:10 AM
Hmmmmm. I would try seeing if you can find the install version of 5.8.8 (but you can also try the current v6) and see if that corrects the problem. I use BCWipe (pay) and haven't used Eraser in a while...I just knew it could do custom patterns...and I had it on my disk to test, but didn't actually try wiping anything with it. Sorry. I do get the same error with the portable version.
PD
acuariano
May 21st, 2012, 01:00 PM
-{ Quote: "there is a file wiper name Zero..i forget where the website is.
but looks good, and it has a right click option in recycle bin." }-
there was a development about this file Zero...
if anybody remember the site where to download please let me know..
it has also a slim version
Cutting_Edgetech
May 21st, 2012, 06:54 PM
I like Eraser myself, but you could look into R-Wipe. I've heard it was a great program in the past, but i'm not sure if it writes all 0's. -http://www.r-wipe.com/
No_script
May 22nd, 2012, 07:02 PM
/?Why does Eraser phone home? Why on earth, had to block it with firewall
PaulyDefran
May 23rd, 2012, 08:00 AM
Update check.
PD
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