Lost the lock on icon

[Knighthood]

I have 2 different userids on one PC. Earlier today I shutdown WSA one side and left the userid up and running while switching over to the over side. Once I was done (WSA came up), I logoff that userid and switch back to the original userid and WSA is back up and running. I then logoff userid back to the main panel of showing 2 userids. Logon to the original id again and was logging on to banking site and I noticed that the lock was not on the WSA. I logoff and logon again and the lock still did not show up. So I then did a cold boot and this time the lock was there.

This is WIN 7/64 PRO OS.

Thanks

[PrevxHelp]

Could you see if this occurs after closing/re-opening your web browsers on the account that remained up? I suspect the issue would be that it had to re-create the icon after switching users and didn't maintain the state of what browsers were active, assuming that users would close their browsers before switching or logging off.

Thanks!

[Knighthood]

I shutdown WSA on one side and left the userid up and running while switching over to the over side. Icon lock work before shutdown WSA and switching over. The admin authority userid lock icon works after WSA came up automatically ( after I gave it ok ). Once I was done, I logoff admin authority userid and switch back to the original userid and WSA is back up and running. The lock icon did not come up to the https site BUT if I hit the back arrow of firefox browser once and twice. The lock icon showed up on the http sites.

Opening and closing browsers under same userid without logging off does not effect the lock icon.

Browser was at all time shutdown before logging off on either side.

I hope that answer your question.

Thanks

[d0t]

I pretty much have the same problem. Sometimes it shows the lock, sometimes it doens't

[SweX]

Afaik the "lock" is only visible when one visits HTTPs sites. Correct me if I am wrong?

Though that is my experience anyway.

[Knighthood]

-{ Quote: "Afaik the "lock" is only visible when one visits HTTPs sites. Correct me if I am wrong?

Though that is my experience anyway." }-

Yes, that is suppose to happen WHENEVER you visits HTTPS sites. There is a bug for it does not always happen.

[Triple Helix]

-{ Quote: "Afaik the "lock" is only visible when one visits HTTPs sites. Correct me if I am wrong?

Though that is my experience anyway." }-

Yes that is correct I also have my HTTP set to High so I get the lock in the tray Icon always when a supported Browser is open!

TH

[Triple Helix]

-{ Quote: "Yes, that is suppose to happen WHENEVER you visits HTTPS sites. There is a bug for it does not always happen." }-

What other security software are you using in real time?

TIA,

TH

[SweX]

-{ Quote: "Yes that is correct I also have my HTTP set to High so I get the lock in the tray Icon always when a supported Browser is open!

TH" }-

Maybe I was wrong because I just saw the lock when I was on an normal HTTP site ;D :-\

So, is it supposed to be visible when visiting HTTPS site ONLY, or on all sites ?

[BoerenkoolMetWorst]

-{ Quote: "Maybe I was wrong because I just saw the lock when I was on an normal HTTP site ;D :-\

So, is it supposed to be visible when visiting HTTPS site ONLY, or on all sites ?" }-
It's visible on any site which protection is medium or higher, by default all HTTPS sites and a few pre-configured sites.

[Dark Star 72]

-{ Quote: "Maybe I was wrong because I just saw the lock when I was on an normal HTTP site ;D :-\

So, is it supposed to be visible when visiting HTTPS site ONLY, or on all sites ?" }-
The lock always appears for me on https sites, it also appears on some http sites - always the same ones so the behavior is consistent, not random as I would expect it to be with a bug.
Several sites that have log in options on the front page show a lock - like this one

http://www.dpreview.com/

I also get one during the loading process on this site

http://armorgames.com/play/6137/crush-the-castle-2

my protected websites setting for http sites is the default one of low.

[Clive T]

-{ Quote: "The lock always appears for me on https sites, it also appears on some http sites " }-

It doesn't here. It seems that the lock makes an appearance in an entirely random manner.

This is a https site I use frequently (amongst a number of others) and I reckon that lock fails to appear 50% of the time. It doesn't matter how long I leave the site, or whether or not I refresh it I can't kick the lock into life.

https://olb2.nationet.com

URL and typos edited!

[Triple Helix]

This is my settings HTTPS is set to MAX by default and I set HTTP to High from Low!

@Clive T I get the lock with your link! 228865

Again I have ask if anyone is using any other security software that could affect how WSA protects supported Browsers as I have no problems with IE9, FF 6.0.1 and Opera 11.51 on Win 7 x64?

TH

[Clive T]

-{ Quote: "This is my settings HTTPS is set to MAX by default and I set HTTP to High from Low!
" }-

I have the same settings. No other security software apart from WinPatrol. Using mainly Opera 11.50. Win7 64 bit.

I've just turned this PC on again and, wouldn't you know it, it's displaying the lock icon on Wilders! As I say, this is random.

[Triple Helix]

-{ Quote: "I have the same settings. No other security software apart from WinPatrol. Using mainly Opera 11.50. Win7 64 bit.

I've just turned this PC on again and, wouldn't you know it, it's displaying the lock icon on Wilders! As I say, this is random." }-

Thanks for the info! I use WSA, Look'n'Stop Firewall and Winpatrol Plus and that's it in real time! And this snapshot I used Opera 11.51 and your link!

TH

[PatG]

@TH: FYI, using the Chrome browser, 16 tabs open all the time w/just one of 'em being https, rest are http. Other security s/w shows in sig. ALL my 16 tab sites show the lock constant @ all times when browser is up. ;)

[Triple Helix]

-{ Quote: "@TH: FYI, using the Chrome browser, 16 tabs open all the time w/just one of 'em being https, rest are http. Other security s/w shows in sig. ALL my 16 tab sites show the lock constant @ all times when browser is up. ;)" }-

Do you have HTTP set above default Low? And sorry I don't use Chrome for personal reasons!

TH

[PatG]

-{ Quote: "Do you have HTTP set above default Low? And sorry I don't use Chrome for personal reasons!

TH" }-

Yes, set to "High".

[Triple Helix]

-{ Quote: "Yes, set to "High"." }-

Great! ;)

TH

[SweX]

@ TH

I wouldn't mind having mine set ot HIGH as well.

But is there any benefit by having it on Low, like better compatibility/stability etc..?

[SweX]

Triple Helix. Are you sure that "Low" is the default config?

Because after I saw your screenshot of the settings panel, wich I didn't even knew existed :P. But after some research I found it belonged to the Identity shield settings.

BUT when I got into the settings panel it was already set to "Maximum"
So if Low is the default, how come that mine was already set to Maximum :-\

I'm not saying that you are wrong TH but since I haven't changed any settings in the ID shield, I did assume that they were on the defaults. ;)

[Triple Helix]

-{ Quote: "Triple Helix. Are you sure that "Low" is the default config?

Because after I saw your screenshot of the settings panel, wich I didn't even knew existed :P. But after some research I found it belonged to the Identity shield settings.

BUT when I got into the settings panel it was already set to "Maximum"
So if Low is the default, how come that mine was already set to Maximum :-\

I'm not saying that you are wrong TH but since I haven't changed any settings in the ID shield, I did assume that they were on the defaults. ;)" }-

HTTPS by default is MAX and HTTP by default is Low so I set it to High and there is no need to add individual sites as all HTTPS have full protection by default such as my banking sites PayPal and so on! ;)

HTH,

TH

[Triple Helix]

-{ Quote: "@ TH

I wouldn't mind having mine set ot HIGH as well.

But is there any benefit by having it on Low, like better compatibility/stability etc..?" }-

Could be with Password Managers and other Browser tools but I don't use them myself so I can't say!

TH

[SweX]

-{ Quote: "HTTPS by default is MAX and HTTP by default is Low so I set it to High and there is no need to add individual sites as all HTTPS have full protection by default such as my banking sites PayPal and so on! ;)

HTH,

TH" }-
Oh god I'm so blind even though I do have my glasses on 8)

Why didn't I realize that one can "click" inside the green fields on the top? :blink:

So Yes you were right indeed, Low is the default for HTTP, and Maximum for HTTPS
Now I have changed HTTP to High as well.

Though I need to ask, is there any disadvantage by having HTTP on Maximum as well? Instead of just High I mean :)

Thank you :thumb:

[Triple Helix]

-{ Quote: "Oh god I'm so blind even though I do have my glasses on 8)

Why didn't I realize that one can "click" inside the green fields on the top? :blink:

So Yes you were right indeed, Low is the default for HTTP, and Maximum for HTTPS
Now I have changed HTTP to High as well.

Though I need to ask, is there any disadvantage by having HTTP on Maximum as well? Instead of just High I mean :)

Thank you :thumb:" }-

Give it a try! I use it on High so I can take screen shots without any WSA pop-ups! Also there's lots of tools in this Tiny App! ;D

TH

[SweX]

-{ Quote: "Give it a try! I use it on High so I can take screen shots without any WSA pop-ups! Also there's lots of tools in this Tiny App! ;D

TH" }-
That I have seen though, and they are very neat and useful I think. ;D
This little App is Engineering at it's best :thumb:

[Triple Helix]

-{ Quote: "That I have seen though, and they are very neat and useful I think. ;D
This little App is Engineering at it's best :thumb:" }-

Great stuff for a 569kb download! 8)

TH

[PrevxHelp]

-{ Quote: "That I have seen though, and they are very neat and useful I think. ;D
This little App is Engineering at it's best :thumb:" }-

Thank you! :thumb:

[Knighthood]

-{ Quote: "What other security software are you using in real time?

TIA,

TH" }-

Sorry, I was out of town.

I am using:

Zemana Antilogger 1.9.2.513
Malwarebytes Anti-Malware 1.51.1.1800
WinPatrol Plus
Comodo Internet Security PRO
EMET 2.1
WSA 8.0.0.7

[Triple Helix]

-{ Quote: "Sorry, I was out of town.

I am using:

Zemana Antilogger 1.9.2.513
Malwarebytes Anti-Malware 1.51.1.1800
WinPatrol Plus
Comodo Internet Security PRO
EMET 2.1
WSA 8.0.0.7" }-

If you are still having this issue and to troubleshoot can you disable all other security to see if WSA works properly? And if it works then turn one at a time to fine the one that is affecting the Lock in the Tray Icon and make sure WSA has full rights to the system within the other security software and please report back with your findings! I have WinPatrol Plus running with WSA without problems and also tried MBAM with WSA in realtime without issues also FWIW!

TIA,

TH

[Knighthood]

It is EMET 2.1 that is causing the lockout problems for sure when you do the configure Apps for WSA. Not sure which of the 7 app name is causing the lockout problems yet.

[Knighthood]

-{ Quote: "It is EMET 2.1 that is causing the lockout problems for sure when you do the configure Apps for WSA. Not sure which of the 7 app name is causing the lockout problems yet." }-

There are 7 app name DEP, SEHOP, NullPage, HeapSpray, EAF, MandatoryASLR and BottomUpRand.

DEP is fine on both side of userid ( admin and user )

SEHOP is fine on user until I switch to admin ( lock gone ) but when I switch back to user - the lock is back.

At this point I stop the testing to see what you want to do.

Zemana Antilogger had problem with EMET 2.1 when I add their to application configuration but I was able to use 5 out of 7. Zemana is currently looking into the other two that I was not able to add to it. (EAF and BottomUpRand)

[PrevxHelp]

Very interesting - I'll have our QA team do some further testing against EMET as well. This is potentially colliding with WSA's own exploit prevention (it applies some EMET-style protection to itself by default).

[Knighthood]

-{ Quote: "Very interesting - I'll have our QA team do some further testing against EMET as well. This is potentially colliding with WSA's own exploit prevention (it applies some EMET-style protection to itself by default)." }-

Thank you for looking into it. I have added my signature to make it easier in the future when I open a ticket so you'll know what I have on my system.

[Mongol]

Just noticed my lock icon is not showing using Google Chrome with this new build. My settings are the same as Triple Helix. It does show using Firefox though...rather odd...

[Blackcat]

WSA, latest version, fresh install on Windows 7. No icon seen with IE8 or FF8 with https sites.

[Techfox1976]

-{ Quote: "WSA, latest version, fresh install on Windows 7. No icon seen with IE8 or FF8 with https sites." }-

You might want to grab the specific version number when it's happening. Versions are coming out so fast it's difficult to tell whether you're on .60, .61, .66, or .68 at any given time.

[Triple Helix]

-{ Quote: "WSA, latest version, fresh install on Windows 7. No icon seen with IE8 or FF8 with https sites." }-

No Icon at all or just no Lock on the tray Icon on HTTPS sites? 230009

TH

[Blackcat]

No lock on the icon ;)

[pegas]

-{ Quote: "No Icon at all or just no Lock on the tray Icon on HTTPS sites? 230009

TH" }-
Hello TH!
As I am always having the lock on the tray icon regardless I visit HTTP or HTTPS site, can you kindly shed more light on how it works. My setting is Max. for HTTPS and High for HTTP.
Thx,
pegas

EDIT: Sorry I overlooked your post on the first page where you said you have the lock on all pages too.

[Triple Helix]

-{ Quote: "Hello TH!
As I am always having the lock on the tray icon regardless I visit HTTP or HTTPS site, can you kindly shed more light on how it works. My setting is Max. for HTTPS and High for HTTP.
Thx,
pegas

EDIT: Sorry I overlooked your post on the first page where you said you have the lock on all pages too." }-

You got it and it works very well for me! ;)

TH

[Triple Helix]

-{ Quote: "No lock on the icon ;)" }-

Are you sure you don't have the AV only version? Only the WSA-E & WSA-C have Identity Shield and Firewall! This picture is the Beta of WSA Essentials http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showpost.php?p=1917336&postcount=2

HTH,

TH

[Blackcat]

No; IS and Firewall present here and not running the beta. Maybe I should have posted this in the release section?

Just installed the beta WSA-C beta again; everything fine with this version (0.60).

[Dermot7]

Just to mention fwiw, that I was having no luck at all with lock on icon (using W 7) since 3.9.1.49, until I changed the icon/notifications settings, and now have both http & https settings at max, and it works good ever since, albeit on every site since "maxed up". Was never advised to tinker with these settings, but it certainly sorted the issue, thankfully.

[Blackcat]

My problem was due to me disabling the Core System Shield :-X :-[

[Knighthood]

-{ Quote: "Very interesting - I'll have our QA team do some further testing against EMET as well. This is potentially colliding with WSA's own exploit prevention (it applies some EMET-style protection to itself by default)." }-

What is the status of this ? Thank you.

[BoerenkoolMetWorst]

-{ Quote: "What is the status of this ? Thank you." }-
Bumping :lurking:

[PrevxHelp]

Could you see if the behavior has improved after a reboot with the upgrade to 8.0.1.20?

Thanks!