MS still pushing IE9 in updates!

[Daveski17]

I have just got an update for IE 9 come through on my notebook. How often am I going to have to hide this?

I don't want IE 9 (does anyone?), it doesn't work on my notebook without wasting my desktop. >:(

Don't MS get it? :wacko:

MS ... stop pushing IE 9!

[OldMX]

Right click / hide update?

Or install it for good, its not that bad actually.

[HAN]

MS probably won't give up. When you consider the average user (meaning not us @ this board), they need to stay as up to date as possible, if for no other reason than safety/security. IE 6, 7 and 8 are not as safe as 9. So, MS keeps pushing it out...

[Daveski17]

-{ Quote: "Right click / hide update?" }-

Yes, I did that last time as well

-{ Quote: "Or install it for good, its not that bad actually." }-

It works on my desktop, but it has caused me problems on my notebook. It probably isn't that bad, but I haven't used IE for many years as there are far superior alternatives.

The default browser on my notebook is Firefox 4.1. I have other browsers that I often use, but honestly, who needs IE 9 when you have Firefox?

[Daveski17]

-{ Quote: "MS probably won't give up. When you consider the average user (meaning not us @ this board), they need to stay as up to date as possible, if for no other reason than safety/security. IE 6, 7 and 8 are not as safe as 9. So, MS keeps pushing it out..." }-

Hmmmm .... I was afraid someone would say that. ;D

I suppose it's logical from their point of view. Although, I think if you refuse it once they should quit trying to push it.:(

[J_L]

http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=292793

I used it to hide updates on my IE disabled system.

[Daveski17]

-{ Quote: "http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=292793

I used it to hide updates on my IE disabled system." }-

That seems like a good idea.

[moontan]

i think the best way to disable the update prompt is to install the thing. ;)

[Kerodo]

-{ Quote: "Yes, I did that last time as well



It works on my desktop, but it has caused me problems on my notebook. It probably isn't that bad, but I haven't used IE for many years as there are far superior alternatives.

The default browser on my notebook is Firefox 4.1. I have other browsers that I often use, but honestly, who needs IE 9 when you have Firefox?" }-
Just install it... if you use Firefox or something else, then you've lost nothing...

[Hungry Man]

I can't imagine how pressed for hard drive space you must be if you won't install this program. It's far superior to IE8...

[J_L]

IE9 installations aren't exactly flawless either. Errors can be made. Very little if any security will be increased.

[Daveski17]

-{ Quote: "Just install it... if you use Firefox or something else, then you've lost nothing..." }-

It disables some desktop items (a few icons, some sidebar gadgets) on my Vista notebook. I've lost those. It works OK on my desktop PC (Win 7 64 bit).

Nope! MS can keep IE 9, it's still pants! :thumbd:

[Hungry Man]

Considering that IE9's libraries are used in multiple ways by Windows I could see potential benefits for installing it despite not using it. You can always disable IE9...

[Daveski17]

-{ Quote: "IE9 installations aren't exactly flawless either. Errors can be made. Very little if any security will be increased." }-

I hear that. Earlier today I tried to update a relative's computer to IE 9. Her computer is a Toshiba Equium laptop running Vista HP, it has 2 Gb of RAM & the CPU runs at a respectable 1.6 GHz.

Guess what? The same sidebar problem appeared as I had on my notebook. I uninstalled it & went back to IE 8. I can understand it on my underpowered notebook, but not a relatively powerful 17 inch laptop.

Definitely no goldfish for IE 9 now .... >:(

Roll on Google OS I say!

[Daveski17]

-{ Quote: "Considering that IE9's libraries are used in multiple ways by Windows I could see potential benefits for installing it despite not using it. You can always disable IE9..." }-

Ermm ... maybe. I don't know about on Vista though. I'm really bored with trying to install it on 2 machines now without problems. I'm pretty sure it's still basically a Release Candidate.

As a comparison, the SeaMonkey 2.1 RC works flawlessly on my notebook. If only Mozilla made an OS!

[The Hammer]

-{ Quote: "I hear that. Earlier today I tried to update a relative's computer to IE 9. Her computer is a Toshiba Equium laptop running Vista HP, it has 2 Gb of RAM & the CPU runs at a respectable 1.6 GHz.

Guess what? The same sidebar problem appeared as I had on my notebook. I uninstalled it & went back to IE 8. I can understand it on my underpowered notebook, but not a relatively powerful 17 inch laptop.

Definitely no goldfish for IE 9 now .... >:(

Roll on Google OS I say!" }-
IE9 works great on my netbook so I'm a little puzzled that you are having problems, but then everybody's systems are different I guess.

[Daveski17]

-{ Quote: "I can't imagine how pressed for hard drive space you must be if you won't install this program. It's far superior to IE8..." }-

Maybe, but I don't know if it is a matter of hard drive space, I think it may be a RAM problem with Vista. I have had problems installing it on two Vista machines now. As I have said before, IE 9 works perfectly well on my Win 7 desktop PC. I never use it though. I would install it on my notebook if it didn't keep affecting the sidebar. I really aren't that interested in IE 9 though. Chrome, Iron, SeaMonkey & Firefox are all superior with the right extensions. Even the slightly buggy Opera is way ahead of it IMHO.

[Daveski17]

-{ Quote: "IE9 works great on my netbook so I'm a little puzzled that you are having problems, but then everybody's systems are different I guess." }-

Is your netbook Win 7 or Vista?

[The Hammer]

-{ Quote: "Is your netbook Win 7 or Vista?" }-
Win 7.

[skudo12]

I have a toshiba laptop with windows 7 64 bit Home Premium, and I used IE9 RC to Stable release and not a single problem. :D

[allizomeniz]

I'd just keep hiding it and it should eventually go away. If not write MS a nasty letter. I sure as heck wouldn't install it just because they keep pushing it. :)

[Daveski17]

-{ Quote: "Win 7." }-

I think it is a Vista thing then.

[Daveski17]

-{ Quote: "I have a toshiba laptop with windows 7 64 bit Home Premium, and I used IE9 RC to Stable release and not a single problem. :D" }-

Yes, & my Win 7 HP 64 bit custom built desktop PC installed IE 9 perfectly. I think the problem lies with Vista.

[Daveski17]

-{ Quote: "I'd just keep hiding it and it should eventually go away. If not write MS a nasty letter. I sure as heck wouldn't install it just because they keep pushing it. :)" }-

I wonder if MS have deliberately made IE 9 problematical to install on Vista?

Nah ... that would be akin to a conspiracy theory ... ;)

[Osaban]

-{ Quote: "I wonder if MS have deliberately made IE 9 problematical to install on Vista?

Nah ... that would be akin to a conspiracy theory ... ;)" }-

IE 9 installed perfectly on my Vista. I've been using Chrome as my default browser since its inception, and appreciate Google's innovative strides, but I must admit IE9 is as good as Chrome for speed and security.

[Daveski17]

-{ Quote: "IE 9 installed perfectly on my Vista. I've been using Chrome as my default browser since its inception, and appreciate Google's innovative strides, but I must admit IE9 is as good as Chrome for speed and security." }-

Yes, that's all very well & good. IE 9 seems quite fast on my Win 7 desktop. I'm sure it's wonderful for those that like it. I personally don't care much for it.

IE 9 installed on both Vista machines & worked perfectly well. What I discovered was that on my notebook (which only has a Gig of RAM) some of my desktop shortcut icons disappeared & the calendar gadget (sidebar) wouldn't work properly. I assumed it was because it was something to do with my platform.

Yet, when I tried to update to IE 9 on a much more powerful laptop I discovered that exactly the same thing happened, but to a slightly lesser extent. The desktop icons were OK, but sometimes the sidebar was affected, notably, the calendar & the sidebar slide show (the computer has multiple user accounts). It seemed to be less of a problem than with my own notebook, but it was there nonetheless.

This CAN NOT be a coincidence & I cannot accept that other people have not had the same problem.

I have seen this now on two separate computers, one of them not even being owned by me!

[Daveski17]

What I would really like to know is if anyone actually uses Vista HP (32 bit) with IE 9 installed & is using desktop gadgets?

On my notebook I have the clock, two regional weather, the CPU/RAM dial & the calendar. My relative's laptop has more or less the same but with variations on the other user accounts. Principally the small slideshow gadget on a user account.

Only the sidebar was affected on the Toshiba machine, whereas on my notebook several desktop shortcuts were affected.

The calendar after booting up will display a strange white background & the dates won't appear as you flip between month/day mode. Usually it will just portray a blank orange square in day-mode. On the Toshiba deleting the gadget & then opening it again (from sidebar control) will 'repair' it (until the account is reopened). The Slideshow fails to run but deleting/re-running will temporarily fix it, until the computer is turned on again, that is.

I am fairly convinced that this is some RAM problem, as Vista is renowned to be RAM hungry even compared to Win 7. I also know that IE is connected to the sidebar in some way.

As I have stated before, I could understand if it was a quirk of my underpowered notebook, but on a separate, relatively powerful computer,
that I don't actually own & isn't even in my house (effectively ruling out any WiFi/router/ISP connectivity problem) I cannot believe that no one else on the planet has not had this problem. :o

[moontan]

i installed IE9 a few times and i found the problem-free to install it, in my case, is to disable UAC for the install.

[Daveski17]

-{ Quote: "i installed IE9 a few times and i found the problem-free to install it, in my case, is to disable UAC for the install." }-

OK, that's interesting. I found that it installed with no particular problems though, just with Vista I have had the problems I have described earlier after installing. The browser itself seemed to work well.

It's a bit of a mystery. I am still fairly convinced it's a RAM problem with Vista.

[Osaban]

-{ Quote: "
It's a bit of a mystery. I am still fairly convinced it's a RAM problem with Vista." }-
From memory, you are running Vista on 1 GB RAM. It is well known that this amount is too little for Vista (barely enough to browse). If that's the case why don't you upgrade to 2GB, it is after all relatively cheap nowadays. I have activated my sidebar and it seems fine with IE9.

[Daveski17]

-{ Quote: "From memory, you are running Vista on 1 GB RAM. It is well known that this amount is too little for Vista (barely enough to browse). If that's the case why don't you upgrade to 2GB, it is after all relatively cheap nowadays. I have activated my sidebar and it seems fine with IE9." }-

Well, firstly, I am not sure how I can upgrade my three year old Belnea o.book 3 as the company that manufactured it doesn't actually exist any more.

Secondly, it doesn't explain why my relative's Toshiba with 2GB of RAM also suffers from the same problem, but to a slightly lesser extent.

I must stress incidentally, that the clock & the weather widgets seem to work fine, it is the slide show & the calendar that won't function correctly on both machines (shortcut desktop icons disappeared on the Belnea).

Interestingly, my notebook doesn't do too badly with a fast browser (Iron/Chrome, Firefox etc). It is certainly functional for general surfing & things like watching the BBC iPlayer.

Anyway, I certainly don't miss IE 9, I never use it on my Win 7 machine.

As I have said before, I just can't believe that no one else has had this problem.

I can understand it on my notebook, but not a 17 inch Toshiba Equium laptop with 2 GB of RAM.

[The Hammer]

Isn't 2GB a bare minimum for Vista Home Premium, if that's what it's called?

[J_L]

No, it's officially 1 GB.

[ronjor]

-{ Quote: "No, it's officially 1 GB." }-Too much ram never hurt a thing and probably won't in the future. ;)

[Daveski17]

@ Ronjor: Almost certainly! You can never have too much power.

I have been perusing the MS forums & I may have found a link. My notebook used to run McAfee as an AV. I now use MSE. My relative's computer runs McAfee now. Some people have had sidebar issues after uninstalling McAfee on Vista apparently. AFAIK I uninstalled McAfee correctly & ran the McAfee uninstallation tool. It seemed to go fine.

I'm not saying that this is definitely the reason, but it is some sort of link, if a tenuous one at that.

[Kerodo]

-{ Quote: "@ Ronjor: Almost certainly! You can never have too much power.

I have been perusing the MS forums & I may have found a link. My notebook used to run McAfee as an AV. I now use MSE. My relative's computer runs McAfee now. Some people have had sidebar issues after uninstalling McAfee on Vista apparently. AFAIK I uninstalled McAfee correctly & ran the McAfee uninstallation tool. It seemed to go fine.

I'm not saying that this is definitely the reason, but it is some sort of link, if a tenuous one at that." }-
I think that's much more likely than IE9 messing with your sidebar..... :)

[Daveski17]

-{ Quote: "I think that's much more likely than IE9 messing with your sidebar..... :)" }-

It is a distinct possibility, but MSE runs well on my notebook. I even ran the McAfee uninstall tool twice, just to make sure. From what I can gather though, a few people have reported problems with the sidebar calendar, whether they are running McAfee or not. It may be a (rare) bug.

The funny thing is, is that I never had any problems with McAfee, well, apart from it being so bloated.

[J_L]

-{ Quote: "Too much ram never hurt a thing and probably won't in the future. ;)" }-
Still my correction was necessary, because misinformation never helps. In fact, if you turn off Aero and some other services, Vista can run on even lower RAM, like 512.

[The Hammer]

-{ Quote: "Still my correction was necessary, because misinformation never helps. In fact, if you turn off Aero and some other services, Vista can run on even lower RAM, like 512." }-
A correction is necessary when false information is stated as fact. Since my post consisted of a question a clarification would be more appropriate.

[BenMar522]

-{ Quote: "I have just got an update for IE 9 come through on my notebook. How often am I going to have to hide this?

I don't want IE 9 (does anyone?), it doesn't work on my notebook without wasting my desktop. >:(

Don't MS get it? :wacko:

MS ... stop pushing IE 9!" }-

I felt the same as you but after hiding the update a couple of times, I just let it do its thing and update. No matter, as I never use Internet Explorer.

BenMar

[clayieee]

IE9 has potentials. You just have to realize it,

[Hungry Man]

Never heard of Vista running on 512MB of RAM. I honestly don't believe it. Tiny 7 doesn't even run on that little -- I believe it's recommended at least 768 MB.

[clayieee]

It can run on a 512 Ram but with the help of ready boost

[J_L]

-{ Quote: "Never heard of Vista running on 512MB of RAM. I honestly don't believe it. Tiny 7 doesn't even run on that little -- I believe it's recommended at least 768 MB." }-
It is possible, unless you got no Page File.

[Daveski17]

-{ Quote: "I felt the same as you but after hiding the update a couple of times, I just let it do its thing and update. No matter, as I never use Internet Explorer.

BenMar" }-

Unfortunately, this is not a case of a choice for me. I am a bit concerned that McAfee may be responsible for the problems I have seen on two computers. IE 9 works perfectly well on my Win 7 desktop which has only ever ran Microsoft Security Essentials.

[Daveski17]

-{ Quote: "IE9 has potentials. You just have to realize it," }-

So did the Edsel, the DeLorean & the Jensen FF. Where are they now?