IE9 RC1 out now!

[funkydude]

No thread yet?

-{ Quote: "A couple of the big new features include tracking protection and an ActiveX filter option. The new tracking protection is a privacy feature that allows consumers to turn off being tracked on the web. Winrumors writes, "Internet Explorer 9 RC offers users a new opt-in mechanism to identify and block many forms of undesired tracking such as cookies, web beacons, advertisements and trackers."

The ActiveX filter option is exactly what it sounds like; it allows you to filter ActiveX controls during your browsing session. It's another security enhancement brought to the platform that will help protect the end users." }-

http://www.neowin.net/news/ie-9-rc-gets-the-preview-treatment

Download: http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/internet-explorer/products/ie-9/home

[Matthijs5nl]

I just installed it, overall it feels quite some faster and more stable (I already was using the Beta as main browser).

I am currently looking at the ActiveX filtering and Tracing Protection. For now, it all seems to be working nicely. You will have to enable both of them manually first. By going to Gear -> Security -> ActiveX Filtering and Tracing Protection. I like the way it works with the icon in the address bar, really intuitively. On Firefox I never used Adblock Plus because I didn't like it, this solution (more of an Adblock Plus light though) will probably have a longer lasting life.

Also it contains a lot of good changes to the user experience, it displays download speed in the Download Manager, the interface has been optimized some more, also you can displayers Tabs on a seperate row (below address bar). The notification bar was updated a little, it contains a nice option to allow pop-ups for once. Less fram pixels, close buttons on inactive tabs (on hover). Classic menu bar optionally.

[funkydude]

I turned on ActiveX filtering and now it has a "Not allowed" icon in the address bar I can click on websites and allow flash to run.

In other (sad) news, 32bit still miles ahead of 64bit on SunSpider.
225069

[Creer]

Here is official MS download page:
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/internet-explorer/products/ie-9/home

[funkydude]

Thanks Creer updated the first post with your link and my sig 8)

[Creer]

No problem funkydude :)

BTW. Here are mine tests of SunSpider on different web browsers:

IE9 RC: 352.6ms +/- 1.6%
Opera 11.01: 375.5ms +/- 2.4%
FireFox 3.6.13: 1229.8ms +/- 6.1%

Amazing score IE9 RC :o

[funkydude]

Nice results but don't give too much credit to SunSpider gotta test a wide range of things. (Also keep in mind that 25ms is nothing.)

The reason I used it was specifically to show that the 64bit javascript engine simply isn't as good as the 32bit one.

[BoerenkoolMetWorst]

I can't enable Tracking Protection :( ActiveX Filtering is enabled and shows a checkmar next to it, but if I click Tracking Protection the menu closes and the Addon menu opens, where you can look and edit your list for tracking protection, but it doesn't seem to be enabled, and I don't see an icon in the address bar. It replaced InPrivate filtering btw.(I think that was just web beacons and trackers, but this new one also does cookies, advertisements and more according to neowin.)

Finally, download manager and download speed :) close buttons on inactive tabs are also great.

[Matthijs5nl]

You have to enable Tracking Protection in the Addon menu, go to Tracking Protection in the left window. Select Your personalized list in the right window. And in the bottom click Enable/Turn on

[Creer]

Here is softpedia article about latest IE9 performance:
-http://news.softpedia.com/news/IE9-RC-Performance-Superior-to-IE9-Beta-to-All-Rival-Browsers-183736.shtml

[Victek123]

I'm getting a Bad Pool Header BSOD when I try installing IE9 RC x86 on my Windows 7 laptop. This may be peculiar to my system - anyone else seeing this? I did have IE9 Beta running on the laptop no problem, but I decided to uninstall and revert back to IE8. Any ideas how to troubleshoot this? Before the last attempt I ran disk cleanup, unloaded all background applications and disabled my antivirus, but no joy.

[funkydude]

When you installed it did you get a warning asking you to close programs or reboot your pc at the end of installation. I selected the reboot option instead of it closing programs, maybe you selected close programs and it's giving you problems?

Also, do you have all your windows updates? I believe there might have been a "pre-update", though one would think IE9 would probably do this for you, never know.

[funkydude]

Seems like IE9 is leading the way in HTML5 standards (at least according to the limited pool of specific tests that Microsoft has chosen ;))

http://samples.msdn.microsoft.com/ietestcenter/

225073

Anyone else laughing at IE8? Here I was thinking it wasn't that bad...

[Victek123]

-{ Quote: "When you installed it did you get a warning asking you to close programs or reboot your pc at the end of installation. I selected the reboot option instead of it closing programs, maybe you selected close programs and it's giving you problems?

Also, do you have all your windows updates? I believe there might have been a "pre-update", though one would think IE9 would probably do this for you, never know." }-

It crashes at the very beginning when it first says "downloading Internet Explorer". I'll have to check if I have all the available security updates installed.

[Birdman]

When installing the x64 version of IE9 (Win 7 x64 OS).....does it also install the 32-bit version of IE9 RC?

[Noob]

Downloaded and installed, but i rarely use it ;D

can't believe the 64-bit is so slow compared to the 32-bit :o
And i though 64-bit programs ran sleeker when coded correctly ::)

[funkydude]

-{ Quote: "When installing the x64 version of IE9 (Win 7 x64 OS).....does it also install the 32-bit version of IE9 RC?" }-

Yes, you need the 64bit installer which will install both.

[zfactor]

-{ Quote: "It crashes at the very beginning when it first says "downloading Internet Explorer". I'll have to check if I have all the available security updates installed." }-

have you tried in safe mode with networking to see if it has the same results??

[funkydude]

Fiddling with tracking protection and found a list of lists:
http://ie.microsoft.com/testdrive/Browser/TrackingProtectionLists/Default.html

The 2nd one (EasyList) is the one by AdBlockPlus! Enjoy ;D

[Victek123]

-{ Quote: "have you tried in safe mode with networking to see if it has the same results??" }-

I haven't - can it be installed in SAFE mode?

[cgeek]

@Victek123

I had the same BSOD problem! If you have the Beta installed, uninstall it and reboot. Then install the RC, it worked for me.

[zfactor]

-{ Quote: "I haven't - can it be installed in SAFE mode?" }-

not sure but worth a shot

[Matthijs5nl]

-{ Quote: "Fiddling with tracking protection and found a list of lists:
http://ie.microsoft.com/testdrive/Browser/TrackingProtectionLists/Default.html

The 2nd one (EasyList) is the one by AdBlockPlus! Enjoy ;D" }-
Great find.

[BoerenkoolMetWorst]

-{ Quote: "Fiddling with tracking protection and found a list of lists:
http://ie.microsoft.com/testdrive/Browser/TrackingProtectionLists/Default.html

The 2nd one (EasyList) is the one by AdBlockPlus! Enjoy ;D" }-

Nice :)

-{ Quote: "You have to enable Tracking Protection in the Addon menu, go to Tracking Protection in the left window. Select Your personalized list in the right window. And in the bottom click Enable/Turn on" }-

Thanks, it's working now. The icon in the URL bar only showed at some sites about ActiveX filtering, so I thought that tracking protection had a different icon, but now that I've added a list through funkydude's link it also shows the tracking protection working :)

[BoerenkoolMetWorst]

In another thread I saw Toolkit to Disable Automatic Delivery of Internet Explorer 9 is already available. Does that mean that IE9 final is coming soon?

Update: I just checked and the toolkit for IE8 was made available two months before it's release.

[Robin A.]

IE 9 is good, subjectively somewhat faster than Chrome. I do not like the options windows, still the old IE6 style, and some of my financial sites still do not work, even in compatibility mode.

Overall, I see no reason to change from Chrome. But IE9 will remain installed, is part of Windows 7.

[kuti]

IE9 is my main browser now. Spending little time to tweak it then it is beast.

[zfactor]

the only thing is i wish is i could move the tabs up and get rid of all the blank space at the top

[funkydude]

-{ Quote: "the only thing is i wish is i could move the tabs up and get rid of all the blank space at the top" }-

This + spellcheck = win.

Here's hoping for IE10.

[funkydude]

I found out that apparently the EasyList TPL is actually EasyPrivacy not EasyList. It is far slimmed down and is only intended to block tracking not adverts.

The good news is that there is actually an EasyList+EasyPrivacy TPL which, although isn't as good as the adblockplus list, does do a better job that the default one provided by Microsoft, and should actually block some portion of ads online.

I set up a small page so that people can easily add the EasyList+EasyPrivacy TPL to IE9. Try not mock my pro HTML or paint (favicon) skills. ;D

-http://tpl.funkydude.co.uk/

[moontan]

-{ Quote: "This + spellcheck = win.

Here's hoping for IE10." }-

iespell (free for personal use) is a pretty good utility that integrates into IE.
i havent tried it with IE9 but it should work...
-http://www.iespell.com/-

[brainrb1]

Thank you funkydude ,now i am using your list :)

[Greg S]

-{ Quote: "I found out that apparently the EasyList TPL is actually EasyPrivacy not EasyList. It is far slimmed down and is only intended to block tracking not adverts.

" }-
Mind reader! I was just fixing to ask you about the effectiveness of the ad blocking capability. I use AdBlock Pro, which would have led to the question of uninstalling it. Thanks for the info.

[funkydude]

-{ Quote: "Thank you funkydude ,now i am using your list :)" }-

You're welcome! Keep in mind I don't actually make this list. This is the official EasyList+EasyPrivacy list adblockplus uses, they just remove some things to make it work in IE9.

All I did was make a page so people can add this list easily, as I guess Microsoft won't advertise it directly, since it blocks more than just tracking.

[brainrb1]

-{ Quote: "You're welcome! Keep in mind I don't actually make this list. This is the official EasyList+EasyPrivacy list adblockplus uses, they just remove some things to make it work in IE9.

All I did was make a page so people can add this list easily, as I guess Microsoft won't advertise it directly, since it blocks more than just tracking." }-
We know that but still your initiative will help many people.:thumb:

[Robin A.]

IE9 RC seems to be very heavy on resource usage. I started it some 5 hours ago and have keep 5-6 tabs open. Now main memory usage is more than 1.2 GB (two processes), graphics card memory usage is 420 MB (unusually high), and it has used more than 1 hour of CPU time.

[kuti]

Just add your list to ie9, thanks a lot funkydude.

[Creer]

-{ Quote: "Just add your list to ie9, thanks a lot funkydude." }-
+1 Good job funkydude :thumb:

[The_ChamP]

flash doesnt work in some sites

[zfactor]

agreed it seems to either have a memory leak or it uses a TON of resources compared to others. but im seeing memory usage slowly just increase sitting with the same pages sitting open so im betting there is a memory leak somewhere

[funkydude]

Did you update to the latest 10.2 final? Flash seems ok here v10.2.152.26

[The_ChamP]

yes i have updated it to the latest flash
flash is not working for me on us.wwe.com

[Creer]

@zfactor, The ChamP I hope it is solution for you both:
-http://forum.safegroup.pl/internet-explorer-9-rc-t3705.html#p99821
(look at the screenshot)

[The_ChamP]

doesnt help...the active x filtering is already disabled and i dont get that red icon in my navigation bar

[Creer]

Im my case on this website you provided - helped disabled Tracking Protection. With enabled TP I see notice that I need to upgrade my flash. With disabled TP site works normally.

[The_ChamP]

I disabled tp...reinstalled flash...still not working...:-\

[Creer]

That's strange...
Do you have any adblocker installed on your computer?
If yes try disable it and enter on this website. If not you can try this:
In IE9: ALT+X > Internet Options > Advanced tab > "Reset..." button
(It resets all IE settings to the default). Then restart your browser and try enter on website you had flash issue.

[funkydude]

If I disable ActiveX filtering on us.wwe.com flash loads fine. If these things confuse you I suggest you leave ActiveX filtering permanently disabled. It is only meant for advanced users.

FYI I'm using 3 TPL's and none of them block critical content on that site.

[The_ChamP]

there must be some problem in my pc then
i dont have any antivirus right now..no adblocker...have restted ie and tried...activex is already disabled...must be some other problem

[Kerodo]

The x64 RC is really nice.... Anyone know when they're planning on a final release? I suppose MS isn't saying....

[JRViejo]

-{ Quote: "Microsoft on Monday began pushing the release candidate of Internet Explorer 9 (IE9) via Windows Update's automatic delivery service to users already running the unfinished browser.

The move is the first of several steps Microsoft will take as it wraps up development of IE9, then starts urging customers, especially consumers, to upgrade." }-
Microsoft offers IE9 RC via Windows Update (http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9209479/Microsoft_offers_IE9_RC_via_Windows_Update) by Gregg Keizer.

[Kerodo]

Good info. Thanks JRViejo....

[JRViejo]

Kerodo, you're welcome! Take care.

[Boyfriend]

Thanks JRViejo for info :) I have noticed this behavior too.

[JRViejo]

Boyfriend, you're welcome as well. Take care.

[funkydude]

2 milion downloads of IE9 RC1.

-{ Quote: "Just a few days after its public availability, customers have already downloaded Internet Explorer 9 Release Candidate two million times and taken it for a spin. As you may have seen on our engineering blog, current IE9 Beta users will be prompted to download RC via Windows Update this month. However, even as these prompts are starting to kick into gear, we have had two million user-initiated downloads of IE9 RC. We continue to be humbled by the enthusiasm and uptake of IE9." }-

http://windowsteamblog.com/ie/b/ie/archive/2011/02/16/internet-explorer-9-rc-hits-2-million-downloads.aspx

Congratulations Microsoft :thumb:

[The_ChamP]

http://www.ghacks.net/2011/02/16/internet-explorer-9-activex-filtering-fix-flash-java-and-other-plugins/
but this still not working for me..lol

[Mr.PC]

When IE9 will be officially released, I will update IE (as part of Windows 7).
However, IE will not be my primary browser.
IE9 and Firefox 4 (http://people.mozilla.com/%7Eprouget/ie9/ie9_vs_fx4.html)

[Noob]

Hahahaha nice comparison :)

[Mr.PC]

-{ Quote: "Hahahaha nice comparison :)" }-
Based on http://caniuse.com/

[The_ChamP]

Is there any comparison of ff4 and chrome 9/10/11 ?

[Mr.PC]

-{ Quote: "Is there any comparison of ff4 and chrome 9/10/11 ?" }-
You can do it as follows:

[funkydude]

-{ Quote: "When IE9 will be officially released, I will update IE (as part of Windows 7).
However, IE will not be my primary browser.
IE9 and Firefox 4 (http://people.mozilla.com/%7Eprouget/ie9/ie9_vs_fx4.html)" }-

More whine from Mozilla, my favourite comment:

-{ Quote: "Mozilla:

Microsoft cheated SunSpider...
Microsoft cheated HTML5...
Microsoft cheated this...
Microsoft cheated that..." }-

Also highlighting:
-{ Quote: "Given that these accusations are coming from a Mozilla employee, the case for bias is a clear one. Mr Rouget also appears to be somewhat of a lone voice when it comes to strong criticism of IE9's standards support" }-

I wonder if that has anything to do with the fact that no one has heard of caniuse before? Or maybe that html5test has been discredited many times? Or maybe that he thinks WebGL and WebWorkers is a critical thing it should have right now? Or maybe that he thinks Mozilla can compare it's "browser acceleration" on XP against the FULL acceleration IE9 offers on 7?

Sounds like he is 'in the know' ;D

Source:
http://www.neowin.net/news/mozilla-employee-ie9-is-not-a-modern-browser

Also at the end of the day it comes down to a few set things:
Speed
Security
Simplicity

All 3 of which IE9 is better at than Firefox 4, which is slower, lacks a sandbox/protected mode, SmartScreen > Google's screening (used in Firefox), and is still holding on tight to that useless search box whilst taking up more screen space.

[vasa1]

-{ Quote: "...
All 3 of which IE9 is better at than Firefox 4, which is slower, lacks a sandbox/protected mode, SmartScreen > Google's screening (used in Firefox), and is still holding on tight to that useless search box whilst taking up more screen space." }-

IE should always have been better considering it's on just one platform (with all the inside information handy) and others have to (or choose to) strive to work on multiple operating systems.

The "useless search box ... taking up more screen space" can be removed by a right-click to bring up a Customize window and then dragging at least in Fx 4 beta.

[funkydude]

-{ Quote: "IE should always have been better considering it's on just one platform (with all the inside information handy) and others have to (or choose to) strive to work on multiple operating systems." }-

This is true, the last time I considered IE was um, 10+ years ago.

-{ Quote: "
The "useless search box ... taking up more screen space" can be removed by a right-click to bring up a Customize window and then dragging at least in Fx 4 beta." }-

Which gives you a bigger address bar, wow... I like the idea of tabs next to the address bar, why have a gigantic address bar?

What does that lead onto, more verticle reading space for the webpage you're on.

[vasa1]

-{ Quote: "...
Which gives you a bigger address bar, wow... I like the idea of tabs next to the address bar, why have a gigantic address bar?

What does that lead onto, more verticle reading space for the webpage you're on." }-

Your issue was the presence of the search bar. It can be removed.

The gigantic address bar will shrink to accommodate add-ons or whatever bells and whistles users want. Since I mostly use the keyboard and a few tabs at a time, it would be nice if the tab bar and the address bar were on the same strip. Right now, my Fx "chrome" takes up two rows.

[Mr.PC]

-{ Quote: "I wonder if that has anything to do with the fact that
no one has heard of caniuse before?" }-
Well, you have heard of it now...;D ;D ;D

[kuti]

Yesterday I got a BSOD while pc was idling. At that time, my desktop only having IE9 RC and Microsoft outlook running.

I think that IE9 RC having huge memory leak. So I did a screenshot of IE process today. What do you guys think about this?

http://i51.tinypic.com/2ilbtbk.jpg

[Robin A.]

Very high memory usage is a known problem, see posts 36 and 40 above. It has also been reported in other forums.

In my case, with 10 tabs open, memory usage increases permanently and in 4-5 hours it reaches 50% (2 GB) of RAM and also 50% (500 MB) of graphics card memory. I also notice a high CPU and GPU usage.

I tried briefly the 64 bit version without Flash, I did not notice any memory problem.

[funkydude]

The 'memory leak' if it is one is obviously a flash issue - an issue I've yet to experience using 32bit IE9 and the latest 10.2 flash.

[Robin A.]

I checked again the memory use in 32 bit version with Flash disabled -- the problem disappears. This is Flash 10.2.152.26. Chrome is using 10.2.154.12.

[Someheresomethere]

This is the first genuinely good IE in, like, ever!
I really don't recognize Microsoft anymore...in a positive way, of course!
I guess the benefits of competition have finally started to show.

[m00nbl00d]

-{ Quote: "I checked again the memory use in 32 bit version with Flash disabled -- the problem disappears. This is Flash 10.2.152.26. Chrome is using 10.2.154.12." }-

These are the official versions: -http://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/

In case you were wondering why they were different.

[kuti]

The version of IE above is 32 bit. I want to have a look with firefox so I installed firefox 4 beta 11 x86 and opening 10 tab, left for 2 hours and when i come back, firefox process occupied memory nearly the same amount with IE9 RC. So I think may be you right Robin A, the problem possible come from adobe flash 10.2.152.26.

http://i55.tinypic.com/2v3hlxz.png

[funkydude]

Testing on Google's Sputnik "JavaScript Conformance - version 2" test gives the following results:

Chrome 10.0.648.82 dev: Failed 130
Firefox nightly 2011-02-18: Failed 178
IE9 RC1: Failed 67
Opera 11.10: Kept freezing at test 256 and required a "pause" then "play" to resume the test, then froze at test 5245 and a pause play would not unfreeze it, ended at 99% with 74 failed. Note: I originally tried Opera 11.01 and had the freezing on both those tests so I figured I'd try 11.10, no change whatsoever.

Speed:
Chrome: 1 minute 3 seconds to finish
Firefox: 1 minute 58 seconds to finish
IE9: 1 minute 35 seconds to finish
Opera: 2 minutes 7 seconds to get to 99%

Failing 1 test in this case will award a 1 second penalty, each second shall be 1 point, lowest points is best:

IE9: 162
Chrome: 193
Opera: 201
Firefox: 296

Test conducted on Windows 7.

[funkydude]

Apparently I missed this:

-{ Quote: "This morning, Mozilla shared their feelings on IE9 with a post that claims to answer the question, “Is IE9 a modern browser?” While they grudgingly concede that IE9 is “a step in the right direction”, they seem to be operating under a very narrow definition of what “modern” means, that I don’t think matches the dreams that web developers and end-users actually have." }-

http://blogs.msdn.com/b/tims/archive/2011/02/15/a-modern-browser.aspx

[dw426]

-{ Quote: "Apparently I missed this:



http://blogs.msdn.com/b/tims/archive/2011/02/15/a-modern-browser.aspx" }-

While it'll get booed for being from Microsoft, it makes valid points. The comments about adding features is right on, especially. More does not always, and usually doesn't, equal better. I personally don't want a web server and bittorrent client in my browser, I don't want social media integration, I want plain old tabs, not colored, not grouped by topic. I don't want nor need 50 bells and whistles, I want a browser that can BROWSE, and can do so with speed and relative security.

[MacQibble]

Hi expert peeps.

Sorry if this is a dumb question. Has anyone noticed Adobe Flash's global settings panel is invisible on Adobe's site in IE9 RC1 32 bit ????

http://www.macromedia.com/support/documentation/en/flashplayer/help/settings_manager02.html

I had hassle playing BBC news embedded video and wanted to check my flash settings but the global panel was blank. There's nowhere else to change flash global settings, far as I know. I reverted to IE8 and the panel was back on the Flash site...let me tweak my settings and fixed my video. I made no other changes to my Win7x64 setup other than go back to IE8. Reinstalled IE9 and the global panel is gone again. :'(

Just curious if you find this too? :doubt:

[Mr.PC]

http://beta.html5test.com/results.html

;)

[funkydude]

-{ Quote: "http://beta.html5test.com/results.html

;)" }-

225313
Source: http://test.w3.org/html/tests/reporting/report.htm
I think 820 tests is a *little* more than what that silly website offers ;) ;)

Try being a little more open minded (I know it's hard...) and actually read the blog post I linked. Instead of just relying on a 3rd party unofficial source as the "be all end all" of HTML5. FYI WebGL/WebWorkers/etc has NOTHING to do with HTML5 and are unstable, that alone shows how silly that test webste is, and why people keep discrediting it, please stop linking it.

[Mr.PC]

I guess, http://www.browserscope.org/ (http://www.browserscope.org/) is "silly" for you, too...

Do NOT boast so much about your "precious" IE9, because it canNOT even properly show the Favicons of certain sites! :thumbd:
1) Technibble (http://www.technibble.com/)
2) Windows Secrets (http://windowssecrets.com/)
3) Security Software Updater (http://ssupdater.b1.jcink.com/index.php?act=portal)

Just to name a few sites...
FYI, Google Chrome, Opera, and Firefox have NO problem with the above Favicons!
-{ Quote: "Try being a little more open minded (I know it's hard...)" }-I know it is hard for you to be open-minded and accept that Not everybody is obsessed with IE9 and MSE...:thumbd:

[funkydude]

Firstly, I love how you state "my precious" as if I'm acting like a fanboy, where as really you're just burned because I linked you a 1st party OFFICIAL result directly from W3C unlike your 3rd party "tests".

Secondly, your entire response to my post is a bug in a non-release version of IE..? ROFL. Oh no, who would have though there would be a bug in a non-release version of software, call the police!

How many betas has Firefox gone though again and they havent fixed all the bugs yet? How many did Internet Explorer need? Point made. :'(

[ronjor]

Let's try to discuss the issues and not each other. Thanks. :)

[dw426]

It's going to get to the point where browsers are as taboo a subject as politics or fall under the "A vs B rule", lol. I personally think IE 9 looks good so far. Sure, there are a few performance issues, but eh, all browsers go through those (with exception to certain "holy browsers" according to some). I give them credit for not trying to stuff it to the gills with "features" like a certain orange fox (this coming from a fan and user of said fox). In the end, they all do one thing (or hell they should at least, it seems devs have lost sight of the original use), they get you from point A to point B on the web. If it works well, then screw other opinions and other tests. That's my view on it.

[vasa1]

-{ Quote: "... to stuff it to the gills with "features" like a certain orange fox (this coming from a fan and user of said fox)..." }-
#appmenu-button { display:none !important; }

That's it.

[Mr.PC]

-{ Quote: "your entire response to my post is a bug in a non-release version of IE..?" }-
After your extensive IE9 Brainwashing, it was nice to show that
IE9 is so "impressive" that it canNot even handle Favicons!

Although IE users asked for a new Favorites Manager, they ended up with the same Crap!

With the majority of Windows users STILL running Windows XP (=Unable to get IE9)
and STILL Not willing to go away from Windows XP (especially Corp. Clients haven't upgrade their Windows due to the Economic Crisis),
do Not get too excited with IE9.
-{ Quote: "Firstly, I love how you state "my precious" as if I'm acting like a fanboy" }-
No, you are not just a Microsoft Fanboy. I wish you were...
In fact, you have been far away from it...:thumbd:

[ronjor]

I asked that the thread stay on topic. Use the personal messaging system to avoid taking the thread off topic. Okay?

[funkydude]

Some trolls just doesn't deserve a response, I'll leave it there. :dry:

[funkydude]

-{ Quote: "Some Microsoft Shills just don't deserve a response, I'll leave it there, too. :dry:" }-

Coming from the person that still can't defeat my response:

-{ Quote: "
Secondly, your entire response to my post is a bug in a non-release version of IE..? ROFL. Oh no, who would have though there would be a bug in a non-release version of software, call the police!

" }-

Without calling me names and making MS assumptions :argh: :thumb: Wilders needs an age limit. ::)
When arguments with facts fail, fall onto what you know best, name calling!

[Mr.PC]

-{ Quote: "When arguments with facts fail, fall onto what you know best, name calling!" }-
Talking about Facts, my Screen Shots (http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showpost.php?p=1832356&postcount=81) are Still there!
That Microsoft didn't even improve IE9 Favorites Manager (despite what users had asked...) is a Fact, too!

However, your Microsoft "myopia" does not allow you to see them.:thumbd:

Do you have some reward for extensively/systematically promoting IE9 -OR- you just do it for free?

[funkydude]

Ok Mozilla hero, you win, I lose. Clearly 1 bug in an RC of IE is more important than IE flat out beating Fx4 in important places such as speed.

[Mr.PC]

-{ Quote: "Ok Mozilla hero," }-
NO Official/Unofficial relationship with Mozilla Firefox! I'm Not even a member of their Forum!
FYI, a few years back, I had Opera as my primary browser! I have tried all browsers...

I have NO Official/Unofficial Relationship with any Browser or other software Vendor!
For example, I used to have DefenseWall on my PCs; I am using Sandboxie now.

However, you are the one who massively/openly promote Microsoft products.
I've asked you many times, but still NO answer! I wonder why...

Do you have some reward for extensively/systematically promoting Microsoft products -OR- you just do it for free?

"When it comes out, IE9 will be so impressive that users will remove their 3rd-party Internet Browsers and keep only IE9."
The wishful thinking of Microsoft Shills or Promote-It-For-Free Microsoft Fan/Funny-Boys.

Keep on Dreaming!

[nanana1]

-{ Quote: "However, you are the one who massively/openly promote Microsoft products.
I've asked you many times, but still NO answer! I wonder why...

Do you have some reward for extensively/systematically promoting Microsoft products -OR- you just do it for free?

"When it comes out, IE9 will be so impressive that users will remove their 3rd-party Internet Browsers and keep only IE9."
The wishful thinking of Microsoft Shills or Promote-It-For-Free Microsoft Fan/Funny-Boys." }-

As someone had said, I will be put off from trying this IE9 RC release due to all these fanboy's pushing.;) :P

[Daveski17]

I found this (Ars Technica) (http://arstechnica.com/open-source/news/2011/02/mozillas-modern-browser-attack-on-ie-overlooks-firefox-shortcomings.ars) if anyone fancies a bit of a read. I apologise if it has already been posted.

[vasa1]

-{ Quote: "I found this (Ars Technica) (http://arstechnica.com/open-source/news/2011/02/mozillas-modern-browser-attack-on-ie-overlooks-firefox-shortcomings.ars) if anyone fancies a bit of a read. I apologise if it has already been posted." }-

Yo! Daveski, great to see you've moved on from that other source you used to quote so often :thumb:

Apropos nothing at all, I came across this (http://billmullins.wordpress.com/):
-{ Quote: "Today’s Quote:
“In the modern world the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt.”
- Bertrand Russell (From his essay “The Triumph of Stupidity”)" }-
Not so modern :-[ and even less so (from memory):
The best lack all conviction while the worst are full of passionate intensity - WB Yeats

[Daveski17]

-{ Quote: "Yo! Daveski, great to see you've moved on from that other source you used to quote so often :thumb: " }-

Oh, I dunno ... guess which Google Reader feed it is on? ;) ;D

-{ Quote: "Apropos nothing at all, I came across this (http://billmullins.wordpress.com/):

Not so modern :-[ and even less so (from memory):
The best lack all conviction while the worst are full of passionate intensity - WB Yeats" }-

Interesting article. I hope a computer of mine never gets that infected that I have to resort to a rescue disc. Now that is scary!

Apposite to even less:

"A just cause is not ruined by a few mistakes." ~ Dostoyevsky


"I'll pick you up in my car."
"Oh, you have a car?"
"No, I used to have a car & a chauffeur, but
I couldn't afford both, so I got rid of the car."
"What good is a chauffeur without a car?"
"I need him to drive me to work."
"How can he drive you to work without a car?"
"It's-a-okay. I don't have a job."

~ Chico & Groucho, Duck Soup

[Daveski17]

Well, IE 9 RC is faster than IE 8. It certainly scrolls faster. I thought I would have a look at it on my laptop. WHAT? No spellchecker? Even worse ... Simple Adblock is not compatible >:( :o

It's better than IE 8 in many respects, but I still only give it 5 out of 10 for effort. I will wait for the general release for my desktop.

Oh well ... back to SeaMonkey/SRWare Iron I suppose. ;)

[Daveski17]

-{ Quote: "Even worse ... Simple Adblock is not compatible >:( :o " }-

Ermm ... I may not be totally right about this. ;)

[funkydude]

-{ Quote: "Ermm ... I may not be totally right about this. ;)" }-

http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showpost.php?p=1826880&postcount=30

[Daveski17]

OK :thumb:

[Daveski17]

I have uninstalled the IE 9 RC update & reverted to IE 8. There are a number of reasons, these are a couple:

1/ The 'Gadget' calendar in the sidebar stopped working properly & the sidebar controls became unresponsive (I find the calendar particularly useful).

2/ On closedown I kept getting a message that SUPERAntiSpyware was still running (it is on-demand but in the systems tray start-up).

My guess is that this is some form of RAM problem. The problems have disappeared now I have gone back to IE 8.

Nice try Microsoft, but no goldfish! ;)

[iravgupta]

Microsoft, even after overhauling the UI so much, does not understand the importance of these things -
1. A UI that accommodates add-ons. Currently most new add-ons create their separate toolbar making IE9 look ugly - e.g. LastPass or Avast WebRep Plugin. Lastpass can be minimized to just a commandbar icon but the problem is in IE9 enabling the command bar makes the UI look fugly. Chrome, Opera and FF all do a nice job of accommodating the add-on icons without messing up their own UI.

2. A decent bookmark tree. Currently when you open the bookmarks from the main UI, and right click any of the folders, the first folder is already highlighted, making it look like both are gonna open together.

3. Make available the option of download manager opening in a new tab instead of a separate Window.

4. Provide a new add-on development model. If every other add-on is gonna hamper the performance of IE so much then why will developers develop for it. Chrome shows no signs of bogging down even with multiple add-ons.

[Robin A.]

The high memory and cpu usage previously observed seem to be less of a problem after updating Flash to 10.2.152.32.

[Daveski17]

Hopefully. Anyway I've reverted back to IE 8 on my laptop. I can wait for the stable release.

[kuti]

Hi guys,

Anyone know how to block flash advertisements at begin of video clip in youtube with IE9 RC. This is really annoying.

Many thanks.

[m00nbl00d]

-{ Quote: "Hi guys,

Anyone know how to block flash advertisements at begin of video clip in youtube with IE9 RC. This is really annoying.

Many thanks." }-

Go to the Add-ons Manager (or whatever it's called ;D) and then right-click Flash Player plugin - More information - then there's a part when you can pick which domains to allow Flash by default. There should be a * there, which means all domains/sites. All you have to do is remove all domains/sites.

Then, every time a website needs to display flash content, you'll get a warning from the web browser.

This applies also, at least, to Internet Explorer 8, by the way.

[funkydude]

Anyone else noticed this warning before?

225580

[kuti]

-{ Quote: "Go to the Add-ons Manager (or whatever it's called ;D) and then right-click Flash Player plug in - More information - then there's a part when you can pick which domains to allow Flash by default. There should be a * there, which means all domains/sites. All you have to do is remove all domains/sites.

Then, every time a website needs to display flash content, you'll get a warning from the web browser.

This applies also, at least, to Internet Explorer 8, by the way." }-

May be I express my question is not clear enough. Not about flash bock, I mean that when you play a tv clip on youtube for example like channel 4 UK, its always has a few advertises running before open actual clip. This is not happen with firefox which possibly prevent by adblocks plus function. So I just wonder if we could do something like that with IE9.

Anyway, thank you very much for your input.

[m00nbl00d]

-{ Quote: "May be I express my question is not clear enough. Not about flash bock, I mean that when you play a tv clip on youtube for example like channel 4 UK, its always has a few advertises running before open actual clip. This is not happen with firefox which possibly prevent by adblocks plus function. So I just wonder if we could do something like that with IE9.

Anyway, thank you very much for your input." }-

Sorry, I totally missed the ad part! :(

I don't see ads, maybe because of the way I use my web browser (Chromium), but most likely the source of ads comes from Google itself, maybe doubleclick or something like that. (Just a very wild guess, though, as I have no idea how the ads are provided.)

Are you using those IE9 anti-tracking lists? It has been mentioned before. They may be able to do precisely what you want.

[kuti]

Hello m00nbl00d,

I did add easylist and couple more adblock filters to Tracking Protection but it's not help IE9 avoid the ads at the begin of the TV show on youtube.

Regards

[vasa1]

IE9 RC1 is faster than Fx 4 RC (build):
http://www.conceivablytech.com/6020/products/firefox-4-rc-vs-ie9-rc-the-first-duel

[Mr.PC]

"IE9 RC is currently the fastest Sunspider browser available, no questions asked. Firefox 4 RC1 is about 10% behind.

However, Firefox wins Celtic Kane, V8 and especially Kraken with a distance.
Kraken is a known weakness of IE9 and the numbers indicate that Firefox is more than twice as fast as IE9 in this test.

That said, both browsers are fast JavaScript browsers and the differences are unlikely to be noticed in average browsing today.

However, as more hardware acceleration features are accessed via JavaScript,
we will see a much more detailed view which browser excels in this discipline.
Firefox leads our contest 6:2 after the JavaScript category (3:1 for each platform)."

[funkydude]

http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showpost.php?p=1830457&postcount=75
Also IE9 beats Fx on Peacekeeper, though I've always questioned Peacekeeper's validity.
Guess that makes it 3-3. Who would have thought IE would one day be comparable to Fx.

[Daveski17]

-{ Quote: " Who would have thought IE would one day be comparable to Fx." }-

Well, I suppose it's personal preference, but I have had a look at one or two of the earlier beta Firefox releases & I was quite impressed. I wasn't much impressed by the IE RC.

[funkydude]

-{ Quote: "Well, I suppose it's personal preference, but I have had a look at one or two of the earlier beta Firefox releases & I was quite impressed. I wasn't much impressed by the IE RC." }-

Wait. You're comparing Fx4 to Fx3.6 and you're impressed, then you're comparing IE9 to IE8 and you're not impressed? Really!? IE8 is garbage in comparison.

[Greg S]

-{ Quote: "Wait. You're comparing Fx4 to Fx3.6 and you're impressed, then you're comparing IE9 to IE8 and you're not impressed? Really!? IE8 is garbage in comparison." }-
I used to be really big into Firefox. I could style any element of it with ease and enjoyed doing it for myself and others. Made a few extensions for personal use on older versions. Still have Fx 1.5.0.12 on an XP boot. When IE8 came out, I switched back to IE and haven't looked back. I'm really excited about IE9, especially the Download manager thingy. I haven't tried any flavor(beta etc.) of it yet but maybe I will soon since I could try it for a few days and restore back if needed whilst waiting on the final.

[Daveski17]

-{ Quote: "Wait. You're comparing Fx4 to Fx3.6 and you're impressed, then you're comparing IE9 to IE8 and you're not impressed? Really!? IE8 is garbage in comparison." }-

Well, technically I was comparing Fx 4 to IE 9. IE 8 may well be rubbish in comparison to IE 9 but at least I can run it without it interfering with my sidebar settings on desktop. Admittedly I have only tried IE 9 on my smaller laptop which only has a Gb of RAM. It also is running the 'RAM consuming' Vista HP OS so I suppose it is not entirely the fault of IE 9. What I meant to say is that I tried a couple of the beta Fx releases & I really was quite impressed with it. I don't use Fx a great deal any more as Gecko-wise I tend to prefer SeaMonkey. If the final release IE 9 does the same to my sidebar (which I find quite useful) I will uninstall it & go back to IE 8. To be totally honest if I could uninstall IE from the laptop completely I would do it. I believe this actually is an option on Win 7 but I doubt whether I will uninstall it from my desktop.

[iravgupta]

-{ Quote: "Anyone else noticed this warning before?" }-

Yep. Happens on http://www.interfacelift.com as well.

[Robin A.]

-{ Quote: " ... if I could uninstall IE from the laptop completely I would do it. I believe this actually is an option on Win 7 but I doubt whether I will uninstall it from my desktop." }-

It is not possible to uninstall "completely" IE, because it is part of Windows.

IE9 RC is very good, IMHO.

[funkydude]

-{ Quote: "Yep. Happens on http://www.interfacelift.com as well." }-

I can only assume it's a good thing? Haven't noticed any brokeness. It's not like other messages which generally have an allow button on the popunder, it's just "we stopped this".

[Daveski17]

-{ Quote: "It is not possible to uninstall "completely" IE, because it is part of Windows. " }-

I know it can't be done on XP, Vista etc, but I thought it could actually be uninstalled from Win 7 completely. I may be wrong about this however.

-{ Quote: "IE9 RC is very good, IMHO." }-

I got curious & fancied a butcher's hook so I downloaded it. I thought it was OK. I just had some problems with my sidebar gadgets. Some desktop icons disappeared as well. Obviously a RAM problem (I should imagine). The Fx 4 betas worked perfectly.

[ShaneR34]

-{ Quote: "I know it can't be done on XP, Vista etc, but I thought it could actually be uninstalled from Win 7 completely. I may be wrong about this however." }-

Yes. You are right. I had it removed in Win 7 for a while. I put it back on simply because (1) I was testing (2) There were some compatibility issues. Minor ones, though.

In my mind, though, it was more of a deactivation than an uninstall.

[Daveski17]

-{ Quote: "Yes. You are right. I had it removed in Win 7 for a while. I put it back on simply because (1) I was testing (2) There were some compatibility issues. Minor ones, though.

In my mind, though, it was more of a deactivation than an uninstall." }-


I'm not too bothered about uninstalling it from my Win 7 desktop, although, to be honest, I don't really use IE at all these days (not for years really).

[ShaneR34]

-{ Quote: "I'm not too bothered about uninstalling it from my Win 7 desktop, although, to be honest, I don't really use IE at all these days (not for years really)." }-

To be honest, unless one is REALLY bothered by IE, there's no reason to remove it. It does no harm sitting idle.

I only tried it out of curiosity.

[Daveski17]

-{ Quote: "To be honest, unless one is REALLY bothered by IE, there's no reason to remove it. It does no harm sitting idle.

I only tried it out of curiosity." }-

I have heard that there are theories that it can be opened &/or compromised with some forms of attack even if it is not your default browser. I don't know much about this though. It could be just one of those peculiar cyber-rumours.

[J_L]

-{ Quote: "To be honest, unless one is REALLY bothered by IE, there's no reason to remove it. It does no harm sitting idle.

I only tried it out of curiosity." }-
I removed it to save some space.

[Daveski17]

-{ Quote: "I removed it to save some space." }-

Now you have some room to install a decent browser! LOL ;D

[vasa1]

The title of this article (http://www.ghacks.net/2011/03/11/ie9-creator-generate-internet-explorer-9-specific-web-content/) is "interesting".

[funkydude]

-{ Quote: "The title of this article (http://www.ghacks.net/2011/03/11/ie9-creator-generate-internet-explorer-9-specific-web-content/) is "interesting"." }-

I don't think it's fair to call it "IE9 specific" where as really it's "Windows Specific". The idea here isn't to isolate this feature to IE only, any web browser can support it. But since it's somewhat a Windows only feature, the API name does infact make sense.

[vasa1]

I guess time will tell just how much of a forward move this will be.