Opera 11 is finally released !

[nanana1]

The Web is changing.

Are you ready ?

Get it here (http://www.opera.com/browser/). *puppy*

Changelog (http://www.opera.com/docs/changelogs/windows/1100/)

Features (http://www.opera.com/browser/features/)

[zfactor]

lol build 1156 same as the rc3 was so i guess they just made that final

[nanana1]

Opera's browsing speed crown is now undisputed, so there is no need to mention it anymore.;)

What's new are Tab Stacking, visual mouse gestures, new address field and the many Extensions it offers. ;D

Let's see the others play catch-up now:P

[funkydude]

-{ Quote: "Opera's browsing speed crown is now undisputed, so there is no need to mention it anymore.;)
" }-

Undisputed in the world of nanana1 where evidence is unrequired? What articles exactly would you be referencing in this regard, your own personal experience? :) They even removed their claims to be no1 on their website.

-{ Quote: "lol build 1156 same as the rc3 was so i guess they just made that final" }-

It was wayy too fast, install RC1 then isntalling RC3 already then final... I have a bad feeling 11.01 will be tomorow...

[nanana1]

Enjoy this gem Opera browser, guys ! :P

[Boyfriend]

Thanks for info :) They have released RC3 as final. Opera 11.00 Build 1156

[korben]

I'm enjoying the experience with 11. In love with Opera since 2000.

[acuariano]

hey guys which adblocker is this new 11 version using..
i use to download the fanboy url ini..but page seems to be in reconstruction

[nanana1]

-{ Quote: "hey guys which adblocker is this new 11 version using..
i use to download the fanboy url ini..but page seems to be in reconstruction" }-

I am using "urlfilter" for Opera 11 which is simple and effective.;D

Wait for Fanboy site to be up and running.;)

[Mr.PC]

http://maritime-unipi.gr/

Opera 11 (http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/4639/operab.jpg)

IE, FF, GC (http://img838.imageshack.us/img838/6491/otherbrowsers.jpg)

[rrrh1]

I hate to say this but they released it before it was done !!

(Rant Mode)

1.) Broken install made itself the default browser without asking !

2.) Uninstall leaves IE unable to connect to the internet !

3.) Won't load My Opera without crashing !

4.) Freezes without notice (Not Responding)

5.) Back to OPERA 10.63 for me...

Put 11.00 back in the oven for awhile please !!

(End Rant Mode)

Have a good day !!

rrrh1 (arch1)

[zfactor]

my exeriences in response to above,

select options during install you can unselect the default browser.

i did not have this problem at all with ie im running ie9 rc

my opera loads fine here no crashes

have yet to have it freeze i have it on prob a dozen systems and my wife uses it also without issue actually opera is actually loading many pages properly for her websites where chrome now is not..

i actually did not like 10.63 and switched as soon as 11 was out in snapshot and love it.

just pointing out everyone has different experiences

[The_ChamP]

That was a very quick release..have not found any issues yet..running great

[rrrh1]

zfactor

I have used Opera since about version 2.11 under Windows 3.11.

1.) No Options were offered by the installer, just accept license agreement.

2.) Finally have it loading, OK at some sites, maybe Opera is just overloaded but it should not crash the browser.

3.) Back to 10.63 until 11.01 I guess.

Opera 10.63 is working fine.

rrrh1 (arch1)

[Carbonyl]

Has anyone tried Opera 11 with Sandboxie yet? I have a number of exceptions and direct access allowances set up so I can preserve my mail/cookies/bookmarks/etc. - But my experience is that with the major Opera releases, they change the paths to all those resources.

Just wondering if I'm going to be able to install and go without issue.

Also, any word on features that ought to be disabled out the gate? I know some versions of Opera started running a webserver without asking the user. I'd like to disable that, geolocation, or anything privacy-breaching as soon as I install the new version, if those features are enabled by default.

[rrrh1]

I grabbed the installer direct from Opera's Site and now have an Options button in the installer.

But it is still crashing on first run, the page will not finish loading.

Turned off extensions and Unite and am sending this from Opera 11.00.

Have a good day??

rrrh1 (arch1)

[zfactor]

-{ Quote: "zfactor

I have used Opera since about version 2.11 under Windows 3.11.

1.) No Options were offered by the installer, just accept license agreement.

2.) Finally have it loading, OK at some sites, maybe Opera is just overloaded but it should not crash the browser.

3.) Back to 10.63 until 11.01 I guess.

Opera 10.63 is working fine.

rrrh1 (arch1)" }-

click options button during install.. then towards the bottom of the box there is a checkbox to make it default or not.

[CJsDad]

I get the same thing, pages wont load, not responding, browser crashes :thumbd:
Guess I'll wait until some of these bugs are worked out

[prius04]

Portable Edition courtesy of PortableApps.com:

http://portableapps.com/news/2010-12-16_-_opera_portable_11

[Boyfriend]

Portable build can also be downloaded from here: Opera@USB (http://opera-usb.com/operausben.htm)

[lodore]

the first time i loaded opera 11 it crashed but has been fine since.
I love the tabs stack feature. great for separating different subjects I am looking at.
the new address bar is a nice feature showing the correct domain which helps avoid phising sites.
I have also activated the on demand plugins loader option. its very useful when loading a website with multiple flash videos because you have to click to start each video. it also means you dont have a ruined website experience by having adverts with audio with i hate since i listen to music while browsing the web.
I havent tryed any extensions yet.

[firzen771]

its working well for me, no crashes, and its extremely fast, plus now that it has addons perhaps i can finally drop firefox (maybe?) :)

[The Seeker]

When you open a folder of bookmarks, by default the tab on the far-right is selected. Does anyone know how to make the tab on the far-left selected, a la Firefox?

[Daveski17]

Well, the adblocker seems to work, I am experimenting with some other extensions ... Opera hasn't crashed on me yet (about 10 minutes since upgrade) which is a bit of a record for Opera I think ... ;)

I haven't seen a WOT extension yet, Ghostery would be nice, I think Opera ASA is making some progress.

They do have a history of releasing 'finals' a bit prematurely though, although having said that, SRWare Iron (with its sheer speed) would be virtually perfect if only they could release one as stable as Chrome. So I suppose Opera is no worse.

Whether this new Opera release improves its popularity is difficult to say. Either way, it is certainly a step forward.

Edit: Spoke too soon ... adblocker isn't what I thought it was ... oh well ... maybe another time or place :wacko:

Back to SeaMonkey & Iron then ...

[firzen771]

i think with the adition of extensions, operas popularity will improve greatly, once it has some time to grow and get some good working extensions like a proper adblocker and hopefully the lastpass addon is improved a bit to be more comparable to the firefox version and such

[acuariano]

adblocker from fanboy is working good here,xp,sp3

[firzen771]

-{ Quote: "adblocker from fanboy is working good here,xp,sp3" }-

i was referring to a proper adblock extension, having to keep replacing the urlfilter.ini isnt exactly what id call an efficient or intuitive replacement. i just hope someone (perhaps the actual adblock plus people since theyre doing a chrome one now, hopefully :P) will make a real adblocker that works well, not simply an ad hider like the current adblocking extensions

[Daveski17]

-{ Quote: "i was referring to a proper adblock extension, having to keep replacing the urlfilter.ini isnt exactly what id call an efficient or intuitive replacement." }-

I think that an extension adblocker that actually worked properly for Opera would seriously boost its popularity. Even I'd be tempted to give it another chance as a browser, well, if they developed a WOT or Ghostery extension as well maybe.

[firzen771]

-{ Quote: "I think that an extension adblocker that actually worked properly for Opera would seriously boost its popularity. Even I'd be tempted to give it another chance as a browser, well, if they developed a WOT or Ghostery extension as well maybe." }-

ye WOT wuld be nice but im not bound to it, id like ghostery more than WOT, but a good adblocking extension is really quite essential and one of the few extensions (along with lastpass, but Operas alredy got that now) that bind me to a browser (firefox)

[zfactor]

just updated to the newest dev chrome they hit version 10.. i have to say opera feels just as fast if not faster

[firzen771]

-{ Quote: "just updated to the newest dev chrome they hit version 10.. i have to say opera feels just as fast if not faster" }-

jee, talk about major version changes, chromes newer than all the other browsers yet its already surpassed most of them in version number (except Opera, but im sure it will soon as well), at this rate theyll be at version 30 in no time lol... they shuld probly lower ther version name changes a bit

[Daveski17]

-{ Quote: "ye WOT wuld be nice but im not bound to it, id like ghostery more than WOT, but a good adblocking extension is really quite essential and one of the few extensions (along with lastpass, but Operas alredy got that now) that bind me to a browser (firefox)" }-

I once got a trojan from a flash ad in a Russian site when I was using SeaMonkey's (Google) translator, I didn't use an adblocker in those days. I'm pretty sure a good adblocker (as opposed to merely hiding) would have prevented that. I won't use Firefox or SeaMonkey these days without ABP, NoScript, Ghostery or WOT. I think Firefox/SeaMonkey with that lot & SpywareBlaster is pretty secure!

[ruinebabine]

Well, if you want to use or test/compare many different browsers, another option would be to use something like Proxomitron or Admuncher to protect all of them at once under the same umbrella. No more need for almost all those extensions. And it can make it more easy to pinpoint your choice,
imho.

[Daveski17]

-{ Quote: "... another option would be to use something like Proxomitron or Admuncher to protect all of them at once under the same umbrella. " }-

Yes, a good idea, but they aren't freeware are they? ;)

[Carbonyl]

-{ Quote: "I once got a trojan from a flash ad in a Russian site when I was using SeaMonkey's (Google) translator, I didn't use an adblocker in those days. I'm pretty sure a good adblocker (as opposed to merely hiding) would have prevented that. I won't use Firefox or SeaMonkey these days without ABP, NoScript, Ghostery or WOT. I think Firefox/SeaMonkey with that lot & SpywareBlaster is pretty secure!" }-

A powerful alternative in Opera is to globally disable all plugins and globally disable javascript. Then, when you need to use javascript or flash on a page, simply right-click, choose 'Site Preferences', and enable the options for the domain you're currently browsing.

Using this approach can protect you from a large quantity of flash and ad-based attacks. Even if there's a malicious advertisement on a page that you've enable plugins and javascipt for, the first thing those attacks usually do is redirect you to another domain where a javascript exploit launches. If you've globally denied javascript and appeal to a whitelisting approach for plugins, then this kind of attack is rendered toothless.

Additionally, the new ability to only enable plugins on demand in Opera also helps to reduce the number of unwanted flash ads and protect your system! Sadly, they don't allow the 'plugins on demand' option in Site preferences pane.

[Daveski17]

-{ Quote: "A powerful alternative in Opera is to globally disable all plugins and globally disable javascript. Then, when you need to use javascript or flash on a page, simply right-click, choose 'Site Preferences', and enable the options for the domain you're currently browsing." }-

Isn't NoScript just easier?

[ruinebabine]

-{ Quote: "they aren't freeware are they? ;)" }-
Proxo sure is.

-{ Quote: "Sadly, they don't allow the 'plugins on demand' option in Site preferences pane." }-
Well, we can in all previous versions!
223953
(v10.63)

Is it new with 11th (i did not install it yet)?

[firzen771]

-{ Quote: "Isn't NoScript just easier?" }-

i think ther is a noscript like extension for opera as well if thats what ur looking for, i remember seeing on in the extension catalogue, u might wanna take a look ther

does proximitron work on win7 x64?

[ruinebabine]

Yes, Proxomitron (+ most recent sidki ruleset) works perfectly for me on win 7x64.

[Daveski17]

-{ Quote: "i think ther is a noscript like extension for opera as well if thats what ur looking for, i remember seeing on in the extension catalogue, u might wanna take a look ther" }-

I had a look at it but I couldn't make much sense out of it. I will probably try & figure it out one day. To be honest, I won't be using Opera until they make a decent adblocking extension. I tried Fanboy's list once & it just broke too many pages. As I'm not a software engineer I just didn't have the patience or ability to figure this out. Iron's internal adblocker was no problem!

[Daveski17]

-{ Quote: "Proxo sure is." }-

Oh, OK cheers for the info. :thumb:

[nanana1]

223978

Not drawn by me.:P

[funkydude]

-{ Quote: "223978

Not drawn by me.:P" }-

Is Chrome (not pictured) the meteor out of the photo about to make them extinct? ;D

[BoerenkoolMetWorst]

Nice improvements, especially the new url/search bar or whatever it's called. Though I'm not really a fan of the automatic url shortening. Also they still score only 8/17 on the browserscope security test, just like 10.63. But except these downsides, Opera 11 is nice :)

[nanana1]

-{ Quote: "Is Chrome (not pictured) the meteor out of the photo about to make them extinct? ;D" }-

No, its already being globbered up in the stomach. :P

[firzen771]

has anyone noticed that the opera extensions that have icons next to the search bar seem to change order wen u restart the browser each time?

[nanana1]

Portable Opera 11 released !

http://portableapps.com/apps/internet/opera_portable

Courtesy of PortableApps.Com*puppy*

[Daveski17]

It's all about bacon say Opera ... or is it pork pies? (http://www.favbrowser.com/opera-6-7-million-downloads-in-1-day/) ;)

[tusque]

-{ Quote: "
Well, we can in all previous versions!
223953
(v10.63)

Is it new with 11th (i did not install it yet)?" }-

That isn't really an 'on demand' preference where you can pick and choose what plugins on the page to display. You can do that with Opera now, but not on a site by site basis. Site preferences just give you an all or nothing choice.

[tusque]

-{ Quote: "Though I'm not really a fan of the automatic url shortening." }-

You can right click on the 'web' button on the left of the address field to and select to 'show full address' to get the http back. For the trailing end of the address, go to

opera:config#UserPrefs|HideURLParameter

and uncheck it (and remember to save).

[ruinebabine]

-{ Quote: "That isn't really an 'on demand' preference where you can pick and choose what plugins on the page to display. You can do that with Opera now, but not on a site by site basis. Site preferences just give you an all or nothing choice." }-
Ok, I understand what you mean and you are right. It's good to know that Opera 11 allows this now. On site-by-site basis would probably be nice to also have in some future build.

Btw, I would not like to sound like a broken record here but Proxo already give me those two options on all my browsers 8) !

[Daveski17]

Yay! There is a WOT extension for Opera (http://www.mywot.com/en/blog/311-wot-launched-for-opera) now all they need is a good adblocker!

[firzen771]

is ther anyway to manually re-arrange the icon order for the extensions next to the search bar?

[Daveski17]

Oh my ... I've been experimenting with Opera's NoAds+ & NotScripts, I'm impressed ... :)

I think I might start experimenting a bit in Opera, it's been a while since I've used it.

[Mr.PC]

-{ Quote: "Yay! There is a WOT extension for Opera (http://www.mywot.com/en/blog/311-wot-launched-for-opera) now all they need is a good adblocker!" }-
Support for KeyScrambler Free, RightToClick...

BTW, can your Opera 11 open this Page (http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showpost.php?p=1798573&postcount=10) properly?

[gerardwil]

No probs with that page.

[Mr.PC]

Not exactly...
See that strange symbols at the Top?
Other browsers do Not have it (http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showpost.php?p=1798573&postcount=10).

[gerardwil]

-{ Quote: "Not exactly...
See that strange symbols at the Top?
Other browsers do Not have it." }-

I see what you meant :o

gerard

[Mr.PC]

Yeap...
Web-page Rendering problem.
Others pages will follow...

[Daveski17]

-{ Quote: "BTW, can your Opera 11 open this Page (http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showpost.php?p=1798573&postcount=10) properly?" }-

No, I'm getting the same as you. Opera page bugs strike again! ;)

[lodore]

-{ Quote: "No, I'm getting the same as you. Opera page bugs strike again! ;)" }-
imho its not the fault of opera. opera sticks very close to standards and it would seem most web designers dont. all websites would work in opera if web developers followed the standards.

[Daveski17]

-{ Quote: "imho its not the fault of opera. opera sticks very close to standards and it would seem most web designers dont. all websites would work in opera if web developers followed the standards." }-

I suppose there's that, it may be just bad browser sniffing though, if I can remember how to alter Opera's UA I will have another look. SeaMonkey also suffers from this, although in my experience it is more rare for it to break pages than Opera.

I'm still a bit impressed with Opera's extensions (well, the one's I'm using) & as someone posted earlier, Ghostery would be a great addition.

[LoneWolf]

-{ Quote: "
I'm still a bit impressed with Opera's extensions (well, the one's I'm using) & as someone posted earlier, Ghostery would be a great addition." }-


Maybe this will happen soon.

-{ Quote: "We're currently evaluating the release of Ghostery for Opera" }-
http://www.ghostery.com/faq

[Daveski17]

-{ Quote: "Maybe this will happen soon.


http://www.ghostery.com/faq" }-


Looks good, mind you, I'm still having problems blocking ads, particularly in some Yahoo! pages.

All in all, this is quite a leap for Opera & NotScripts looks promising. Apart from the sporadic adblocking extension NoAds+, which needs a tad more tweaking IMO, the WOT, VirusTotal & Gmail extensions seem to be fine.

[funkydude]

-{ Quote: "imho its not the fault of opera. opera sticks very close to standards and it would seem most web designers dont. all websites would work in opera if web developers followed the standards." }-

Heh, and you've read the source code to know that? ::)

[firzen771]

is ther a way to manually check for updates for the extensions? like in firefox where thers a button to check for updates.

[korben]

just discovered the pin tab feature is broken...i mean i hate the way it works now. the tiny window is very inconveniently placed.

[vasa1]

Re. pages not displaying well, anyone can test most any site for standards compliance here:
http://validator.w3.org/
or
http://www.validome.org/validate

[firzen771]

-{ Quote: "just discovered the pin tab feature is broken...i mean i hate the way it works now. the tiny window is very inconveniently placed." }-

broken? whats wrong with it?

[korben]

broken = the tiny window is very inconveniently placed, I preferred it the way it used to be, possible again?

[firzen771]

-{ Quote: "broken = the tiny window is very inconveniently placed, I preferred it the way it used to be, possible again?" }-

hmm, im not sure how it used to be so i guess i cant really comment.:-\

[Athletic]

-{ Quote: "Has anyone tried Opera 11 with Sandboxie yet? I have a number of exceptions and direct access allowances set up so I can preserve my mail/cookies/bookmarks/etc. - But my experience is that with the major Opera releases, they change the paths to all those resources.

Just wondering if I'm going to be able to install and go without issue.
" }-
Hi ! Firefox user here, Opera is my ''backup'' browser.
I use Opera 11 sandboxed, but all profile folder is in exclusions, works o.k.

btw. No problems with Opera 11, faster, no crashes, password manager logins works better to youtube and gmail, also to forums logins works perfect now (no need to refresh the pages to log me in, like in 10.63 version).

There is only one problem, with Msn Hotmail, can't login . Cookies enabled, scripts also...login works under Firefox, but no way with Opera, anyone else has the same problem ?

[Daveski17]

-{ Quote: "There is only one problem, with Msn Hotmail, can't login . Cookies enabled, scripts also...login works under Firefox, but no way with Opera, anyone else has the same problem ?" }-

I just checked ... Opera strikes again! :wacko: I can get in easily enough but I can't seem to do anything in it. At first I thought it was because I hadn't enabled the JS with NotScripts but it isn't that.

I once got a lot of stick on this forum for saying that Opera would probably be the best browser in the world ... if only it worked properly ... I still adhere to this philosophy! ;)

[Pliskin]

-{ Quote: "There is only one problem, with Msn Hotmail, can't login . Cookies enabled, scripts also...login works under Firefox, but no way with Opera, anyone else has the same problem ?" }-
Are you using NoAds extension? Uninstall it and try to login. I've noticed that some extensions can brake things.

[Daveski17]

-{ Quote: "Are you using NoAds extension? Uninstall it and try to login. I've noticed that some extensions can brake things." }-

I just disabled the NoAd+ extension & it worked OK. It sort of defeats the object of having an abblocker though. Opera ASA really need to work on getting a competent adblocking extension.

[zfactor]

-{ Quote: "is ther a way to manually check for updates for the extensions? like in firefox where thers a button to check for updates." }-

yes under the opera main tab at the top go to help then you will see check for updates

[firzen771]

-{ Quote: "yes under the opera main tab at the top go to help then you will see check for updates" }-

i dont think that checks the extensions since thers a newer version of one extension im using available to download on the extension site but the version i have still says its older and doing that check for updates says im all up to date still

[Daveski17]

-{ Quote: "i dont think that checks the extensions since thers a newer version of one extension im using available to download on the extension site but the version i have still says its older and doing that check for updates says im all up to date still" }-

Yes, I think that is just to check for the browser itself to update. It's just dawned on me as well that there appears to be no way to update Opera extensions without manually installing from their extensions repository.

[firzen771]

-{ Quote: "Yes, I think that is just to check for the browser itself to update. It's just dawned on me as well that there appears to be no way to update Opera extensions without manually installing from their extensions repository." }-

seems so, unless they auto update at certain time intervals that we dont have open access to see... im not sure tho but this is definetly a major oversight.

[Daveski17]

-{ Quote: "... im not sure tho but this is definetly a major oversight." }-

Yeah, nothing new there from Opera ASA. ;)

Edit: I've just noticed, this is my 1000th post!

[firzen771]

-{ Quote: "Yeah, nothing new there from Opera ASA. ;)

Edit: I've just noticed, this is my 1000th post!" }-

haha, gratz, and i do hope someones pointed this out to Opera, its kinda hard to believe they never figured something like this out themselves tho...

[Athletic]

-{ Quote: "Are you using NoAds extension? Uninstall it and try to login. I've noticed that some extensions can brake things." }-
Not working for me. I removed urlfilter.ini file, ads now i can see but MSN Hotmail not working.

Also tried ''mask as IE'' and other site setups...

[vasa1]

-{ Quote: "...
Edit: I've just noticed, this is my 1000th post!" }-

And after the 1000th post he rested ....

[Daveski17]

-{ Quote: "haha, gratz, and i do hope someones pointed this out to Opera, its kinda hard to believe they never figured something like this out themselves tho..." }-

Cheers! To be honest though, it's an old old story with Opera. They have great ideas & the Opera browser has great features. Unfortunately there always seems to be some problem with something. I hate to say that sometimes they appear a bit 'half-baked' but that just about sums it up.

[Daveski17]

-{ Quote: "And after the 1000th post he rested ...." }-

Well, I was knackered! ;)

[Mr.PC]

-{ Quote: "To be honest though, it's an old old story with Opera.
They have great ideas & the Opera browser has great features.
Unfortunately there always seems to be some problem with something.
I hate to say that sometimes they appear a bit 'half-baked' but that just about sums it up." }-
100% Agree with that! :thumb:
Opera misses extension others have, BUT I wish it was Only that...
There are Content-related problems (Web-Page Rendering), too.

[HAN]

Is there anyway to stop the installation of Opera from adding itself (re: due to the Unite functionality) as exceptions to the Windows Firewall?

[stapp]

I cannot find the site I did this from, I think it was to do with that.

Anyway I did opera:config in address bar.

Went to User prefs and unticked 'enable unite' (scroll to bottom of page and click save)

Then I went to enabled UPnP service Discovery. (scroll to bottom and save)



EDIT... It was from here I think
http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r23406383-Opera-1010-keeps-opening-ICF-ports-security-issue

[HAN]

Thanks for the answer. The items you mention all help to prevent Unite from running after installation. And this is very important stuff!

But beyond that, what I am specifically interested in is the (active?) process Opera uses when ran for the first time/or is installed where it adds itself as Windows Firewall exceptions. I am wondering if a way even exists to prevent this? For reasons beyond me, apparently Opera's developers can't imagine someone not wanting to change their firewall settings for the installation of their browser. For me, I can't imagine why I would ever want a web browser to change such a fundamental safety setting.

I guess that from time to time, I'll keep asking and hope that some day, someone from Opera will begin to grasp the issue from a safety aspect... :(

[nanana1]

Think about it this way, Opera has been running Unite for quite some time, has it ever compromised the security of the systems on which it is installed on ? ;)

[funkydude]

-{ Quote: "Think about it this way, Opera has been running Unite for quite some time, has it ever compromised the security of the systems on which it is installed on ? ;)" }-

That's like calling Mac secure because it has a lower marker share, a.k.a. used less, a.k.a. not as targetted. If you think Opera is secure from exploits you're very mistaken, Unite just opens another target which isn't necessary. There is no "secure" browser.

If I recall correctly, you could turn Unite off in about:config, no? If it's adding rules at install, just delete them?

[Eice]

-{ Quote: "Think about it this way, Opera has been running Unite for quite some time, has it ever compromised the security of the systems on which it is installed on ? ;)" }-
That's a really terrible way of thinking about security. It's no different from Linux and Mac users believing that their computers are more secure than Windows machines, when in reality their "security" is simply due to hackers not bothering to spend time on them instead of any inherent technical merits.

[nanana1]

-{ Quote: "That's like calling Mac secure because it has a lower marker share, a.k.a. used less, a.k.a. not as targetted. If you think Opera is secure from exploits you're very mistaken, Unite just opens another target which isn't necessary. There is no "secure" browser.

If I recall correctly, you could turn Unite off in about:config, no? If it's adding rules at install, just delete them?" }-

If what you said is true, why has Unite not been targeted and exploited ???
Are all these security agencies and hackers sleeping ? :P

Yes, if one is paranoid about Unite, you can turn it off in opera:config.;)

Opera is as secure as any browser can get.

[nanana1]

-{ Quote: "That's a really terrible way of thinking about security. It's no different from Linux and Mac users believing that their computers are more secure than Windows machines, when in reality their "security" is simply due to hackers not bothering to spend time on them instead of any inherent technical merits." }-

Rather it's the hackers who knew how secure Opera is and has been.;)

Opera has earned its secure browser reputation over these many years and you think they are going to add Unite and allow it to ruin its reputation.8)

[Eice]

-{ Quote: "Rather it's the hackers who knew how secure Opera is and has been.;)" }-
Not really, that's just an extremely dubious leap of logic on your part.

[safeguy]

-{ Quote: "100% Agree with that! :thumb:
Opera misses extension others have, BUT I wish it was Only that...
There are Content-related problems (Web-Page Rendering), too." }-

This is the reason why I still can't get myself to using Opera despite the strong recommendations by some folks here and elsewhere. I've tried hard but keep failing...

I'm not giving up though...just slowing down and sticking to what works for me now.

[vasa1]

-{ Quote: "... just opens another target which isn't necessary..." }-

Stands to reason. For any software, the larger the surface, the more linkages, the higher the theoretical possibility of presenting a vulnerability.

I downloaded Opera today and will see what can be turned off, especially the "social" aspects that I don't need.

Incidentally, ctrl+B in text boxes opens the bookmark panel. Chrome finally saw sense and changed that to ctrl+shift+B, leaving ctrl+B for the more common use of bolding text in text boxes.

[nanana1]

-{ Quote: "Not really, that's just an extremely dubious leap of logic on your part." }-

Then you need to show proof that Opera is vulnerable and has been compromised by hackers which you will NOT be able to.:P

[bellgamin]

* If you have any FACTS to offer about Opera, I would be very grateful to read them.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Opera 11 runs well on my machine. As to its security -- or the security of ANY browser -- I never depend on the browser itself to protect my computer's groin. I have better guardians. Perfect? Probably not. However, if a Nasty should ever get past my security wall, I got a Donk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufDTDUPZrag&feature=related). (Namely, Keriver Image).

[Eice]

-{ Quote: "Then you need to show proof that Opera is vulnerable and has been compromised by hackers which you will NOT be able to.:P" }-
Are you serious?

I hope you're just really, really taking to heart Opera's previous plea to their fanboys to troll for them online, because the only other possibility I can think of would be that you're really THAT ignorant. Assuming you're not trying to troll, which part of "not getting hacked ≠ secure" do you not understand, so we can explain it to you again, slowly this time?

[nanana1]

-{ Quote: "Are you serious?

I hope you're just really, really taking to heart Opera's previous plea to their fanboys to troll for them online, because the only other possibility I can think of would be that you're really THAT ignorant. Assuming you're not trying to troll, which part of "not getting hacked ≠ secure" do you not understand, so we can explain it to you again, slowly this time?" }-

I am serious.*puppy*

I am no Opera fanboy. See my posts on the Opera forums. 8)

Opera has been examined and scrutinized over these years by many including Securnia and I am sure previously when Opera introduced Unite, Opera was being challenged by many as well.

So, Opera is a pretty secure browser, not perfect though.:P

[nanana1]

About the Unite feature in Opera when it was first introduced, many users didn't like it. Back then, Unite couldn't even be turned off. It can be turned off now.::)

Yet Opera should be applauded for her courage to try this different stance with the Unite feature hoping to make the Opera browser an powerful social sharing experience rather than just being a browser. Unfortunately, it was way ahead of its time and lacking a strong users' base, this novel idea will find success difficult. :-*

Sound familiar ? Yes, the new RockMelt browser is doing something similar. Wish it will have more success ! ;)

It is a matter of time when Opera will abandon Unite and but for now, it doesn't bother me at all as I already have it turned off.:P

[nanana1]

There is a section on Opera website devoted to security.:thumb:

SECURITY@OPERA (http://my.opera.com/securitygroup/blog/) *puppy*

Welcome to the new home page of the Opera Security Group.

This is where we are going to announce security updates, links to advisories, and occasional articles with information about security topics related to Opera.

You can find out more about Opera's policies for security vulnerabilities at this page. We prefer that security vulnerabilities, like all bugs, are reported via our bug-tracking system, although we do also accept reports via the e-mail address security (at) opera dot com (PGP key can be found in this Opera Labs article).

Guys, Opera's serious about its browser security !;D

[Eice]

-{ Quote: "I am no Opera fanboy" }-
Actually, whether you are or aren't is blatantly obvious to anyone who follows these threads. Feel free to do so if you want, but there's not really much point in you protesting one way or the other, to be honest.

-{ Quote: "Opera has been examined and scrutinized over these years by many including Securnia" }-
One, Secunia isn't a hacking or security pen-testing outfit, they're a comp sec organization dedicated to tracking vulnerabilities. Other than them, who are these "many" you talk about, and how "many" are they compared to the people who actively try to exploit IE (and, to a lesser extent, Firefox) on a daily basis, with many of them doing so for illegal and vast commercial gain? Who are these nameless, faceless people whom we've never heard about but are supposed to have unwavering faith in their credibility and skill regarding their opinions about Opera's security?

Two, you haven't answered my question. Which part of "not getting hacked ≠ secure" do you not understand, so we can explain it to you again, slowly this time?

-{ Quote: "I am sure previously when Opera introduced Unite, Opera was being challenged by many as well." }-
"You" are "sure"? "Many"? Gee, given how you seem to believe so strongly in it, I'm certain that it must be fact and am feeling quite reassured. ::)

[Ocky]

Stop duelling and please test some links in this page.. http://www.cash.ch/community/

On the left under 'Borse' click on the links 'mehr >>'
I just get a blank page even when masking as FF or IE. Javascript required.

On Ubuntu.

Thanks.

(Works in Firefox)

[vasa1]

Is there anyway to adjust what comes up in the right-click context menu?

When I right-click on a link, the top-most suggestion is to open the link. Why? If I wanted to open the link, I could do it with a left click and be done.

I want to know if there's any hack to reduce the options we see on right clicking on a link? I'm pretty sure I don't need "open the link" and "open in a new window". I'd like "open in a new background tab" to be the first choice.

In Firefox, we can edit the userchrome.css to make some changes in the options seen on right-click.

[vasa1]

-{ Quote: "Stop duelling and please test some links in this page.. http://www.cash.ch/community/

On the left under 'Borse' click on the links 'mehr >>'
I just get a blank page even when masking as FF or IE. Javascript required.

On Ubuntu.

Thanks.

(Works in Firefox)" }-

FWIW, mehr opens with Chrome 10 Dev to "http://www.cash.ch/community/forum/aktien/schweiz/" on a box running WinXP. Opera 11 throws up a blank page.

If anyone understands html, http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cash.ch%2Fcommunity%2Fforum%2Faktien%2Fschweiz%2F&charset=%28detect+automatically%29&doctype=Inline&group=0

[Ocky]

-{ Quote: "FWIW, mehr opens with Chrome 10 Dev to "http://www.cash.ch/community/forum/aktien/schweiz/" on a box running WinXP. Opera 11 throws up a blank page.

If anyone understands html, http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cash.ch%2Fcommunity%2Fforum%2Faktien%2Fschweiz%2F&charset=%28detect+automatically%29&doctype=Inline&group=0" }-
Thanks for checking vasa1. At least I know it's not only my Opera 11 setup.

[Pliskin]

-{ Quote: "Is there anyway to adjust what comes up in the right-click context menu?" }-
Two ways:
1. Edit standard_menu.ini (section "Hotclick Popup Menu", I think)
2. Preferences - Advanced - Toolbars and duplicate default menu, rename it, select it and ok. Close Opera, find Menu_1.ini in your profile folder and edit everything you want (delete, change order, add new commands, etc)

Advantage of second way is that after upgrade it won't be reverted to defaults.

[vasa1]

-{ Quote: "Two ways:
1. Edit standard_menu.ini (section "Hotclick Popup Menu", I think)
2. Preferences - Advanced - Toolbars and duplicate default menu, rename it, select it and ok. Close Opera, find Menu_1.ini in your profile folder and edit everything you want (delete, change order, add new commands, etc)

Advantage of second way is that after upgrade it won't be reverted to defaults." }-

Thank You! :thumb: Thank You! :thumb:

This seems even easier and more empowering than Fx.

[Pliskin]

No problem. I just forgot to add that if you choose the second way you can delete all non-modified sections, much easier for editing later, and maybe it's faster for Opera to read it.

[nanana1]

-{ Quote: "No problem. I just forgot to add that if you choose the second way you can delete all non-modified sections, much easier for editing later, and maybe it's faster for Opera to read it." }-

Opera has always been easy to customize for its use.:thumb:

Expect an update to Opera 11 soon for the mouse gesture fix.;)

[mantra]

-{ Quote: "I hate to say this but they released it before it was done !!


2.) Uninstall leaves IE unable to connect to the internet !


rrrh1 (arch1)" }-
how did you fix it?:wacko: :wacko:

[zfactor]

-{ Quote: "how did you fix it?:wacko: :wacko:" }-

i did not have this issue at all. so it seems its not on every system

[bigc73542]

I don't have the problem on my Computer with Opera 11 either

[nanana1]

-{ Quote: "Opera has always been easy to customize for its use.:thumb:

Expect an update to Opera 11 soon for the mouse gesture fix.;)" }-

The much awaited Opera 11.01 snapshot (http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/blog/2011/01/07/opera-11-01-snapshot#comments) is released. *puppy*

In addition to mouse gesture fixes and various other things, we have also looked at the top crashers in Opera 11, and several of them have been fixed in this snapshot.8)

Although this is a minor/bugfix release, there are more Core fixes in this build than you might expect. This is due to our development model at Opera, where we often receive batches of fixes from the Core team that have been tested, and are ready for public consumption. Since the batch of fixes contains important bug fixes, we receive other fixes as well as a "bonus". We also get to test these fixes in public.:thumb:

[funkydude]

Was wondering when they will gonna re-relase their rushed v11 with bugfixes, there you have it.

[firzen771]

-{ Quote: "The much awaited Opera 11.01 snapshot (http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/blog/2011/01/07/opera-11-01-snapshot#comments) is released. *puppy*

In addition to mouse gesture fixes and various other things, we have also looked at the top crashers in Opera 11, and several of them have been fixed in this snapshot.8)

Although this is a minor/bugfix release, there are more Core fixes in this build than you might expect. This is due to our development model at Opera, where we often receive batches of fixes from the Core team that have been tested, and are ready for public consumption. Since the batch of fixes contains important bug fixes, we receive other fixes as well as a "bonus". We also get to test these fixes in public.:thumb:" }-

does it give us a way to update extensions manually? or at all really lol

[Daveski17]

-{ Quote: "Was wondering when they will gonna re-relase their rushed v11 with bugfixes, there you have it." }-

They'll never 'fix' Opera! ;) Having said that, I have yet to live to see release of SRWare Iron without some annoying bug!

[nanana1]

New Opera 11.01 snapshot build 1164 (http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/blog/2011/01/11/snapshotzilla) is available for testers.;D

Fixes mainly on mail improvements, crash logging and widget detection on Mac, and faster DNS resolution on Linux/FreeBSD. :thumb:

WARNING: This is a development snapshot: It contains the latest changes, but may also have severe known issues, including crashes, and data loss situations. In fact, it may not work at all.

[korben]

Notification Area Icons

Opera = hide icon and notifications

still visible

a glitch?

[firzen771]

does anyone know if thers a way to change the order of the extension icons next to the search bar?

[nanana1]

New 11.01 snapshot build 1169 with several crash fixes (http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/blog/2011/01/17/11-01-snapshot-with-several-crash-fixes) is avaialble. *puppy*

Its main focus has been improving on browser stability so if you were hitting a crash with previous builds, do give this a try.:lurking:

WARNING: This is a development snapshot: It contains the latest changes, but may also have severe known issues, including crashes, and data loss situations. In fact, it may not work at all.

[nanana1]

Another 11.01 snapshot build 1175 (http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/blog/2011/01/20/another-11-01-snapshot-with-even-more-crashfixes) with even more crash fixes is available *puppy*

Another 11.01 snapshot with even more crash fixes. This build will hopefully fix the most annoying crashes from the last snapshot, for example logging in to vkontakte.ru

Crashes ? I don't even experienced a single crash with the last snapshot. Anyway, I'll take this one with me too. :P

WARNING: This is a development snapshot: It contains the latest changes, but may also have severe known issues, including crashes, and data loss situations. In fact, it may not work at all.

[firzen771]

-{ Quote: "Another 11.01 snapshot build 1175 (http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/blog/2011/01/20/another-11-01-snapshot-with-even-more-crashfixes) with even more crash fixes is available *puppy*

Another 11.01 snapshot with even more crash fixes. This build will hopefully fix the most annoying crashes from the last snapshot, for example logging in to vkontakte.ru

Crashes ? I don't even experienced a single crash with the last snapshot. Anyway, I'll take this one with me too. :P

WARNING: This is a development snapshot: It contains the latest changes, but may also have severe known issues, including crashes, and data loss situations. In fact, it may not work at all." }-

so when are these snapshots actually going to turn into final updates?

[gerardwil]

-{ Quote: "so when are these snapshots actually going to turn into final updates?" }-

My best guess: februari 29, 23:00

Gerard

[funkydude]

-{ Quote: "My best guess: februari 29, 23:00

Gerard" }-

It's not a leap year.

[nanana1]

-{ Quote: "so when are these snapshots actually going to turn into final updates?" }-

When majority of the reported bugs are fixed and it should happen before Feb 29th.;)

[nanana1]

Another snapshot build 1179 (http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/blog/2011/01/21/opera-usb-mac) is released for testing.

Main implementation is that Mac users now will be able to put Opera on a USB stick (or encrypted disk image) and carry their bookmarks and settings, mail, and everything else with them.

Changelog

Core

CORE-32762 (Crash prevention for spell checking)
CORE-35898 (URI fragment identifier wasn't being exposed in all URIs)
CORE-35350 (Expose the widget object to extension scripts)


Desktop

DSK-324730 (Crash on printing Trafikanten.no)
DSK-309863 (Disk cache in Turbo mode prematurely emptied after bringing up a context menu)
DSK-321933 (Deactivate auto-reload in speed dials when the address changes)
DSK-322244 (Pinned tabs too wide with a collapsed tab stack)


Windows

DSK-324504 (No close button on tabs that are not selected)


Mac

DSK-326380 (Opera Portable/USB for Mac and single profile)
DSK-323299 (Optimize bookmark menu updating. Prevents freeze on keyboard input.)


WARNING: This is a development snapshot: It contains the latest changes, but may also have severe known issues, including crashes, and data loss situations. In fact, it may not work at all.

[gerardwil]

You probably mean 1179?

Gerard

[nanana1]

-{ Quote: "You probably mean 1179?

Gerard" }-

Yes, yes, build number has been corrected.:)

Thanks for spotting it !:thumb:

[mantra]

i'm using the 11.00 buld 1156 install version now under xp
i use the usb version too (portable too) http://www.opera-usb.com/


but i found a issue

well opera 11 can't keep track about the links i visited

for example i open opera 11 , click on a link (it become dark pink like in the preference) but when i close opera , and start opera again the link visited is normal

is a issue?

[nanana1]

Opera 11.01 RC1 Build 1189 (http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/blog/2011/01/25/opera-11-01-rc1) is now available. 8)

The build you have all been waiting for, Opera 11.01 RC1. As this is very close to release now, we are only interested in regressions from the 11.00 final build.;)

Changelog

Cross-Platform

Fixed some common crashes


Download here (http://snapshot.opera.com/windows/rc1_11.01-1189/Opera_1101_1189_int.exe).

[nanana1]

-{ Quote: "When majority of the reported bugs are fixed and it should happen before Feb 29th.;)" }-

Given the speed of RC builds releases, the final version will be available before Feb 29th as I had earlier mentioned.;)

Opera 11.01 RC2 Build 1190 (http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/blog/2011/01/26/opera-11-01-rc2) is released for testing.:thumb:


This is a second Release Candidate for Opera 11.01 final with further crash fixes and fixes for installer errors on Windows Vista and Windows 7.

This snapshot has been placed on the Windows and Mac auto-update server. We'd appreciate feedback on how that works. Remember however that you will need to enable opera:config#AutoUpdate|DownloadAllSnapshots. *puppy*

Windows (http://snapshot.opera.com/windows/rc2_11.01-1190/Opera_1101_1190_int.exe)
Mac (http://snapshot.opera.com/mac/rc2_11.01-1190/Opera_11.01_1190.dmg)
Linux/FreeBSD (http://snapshot.opera.com/unix/rc2_11.01-1190/)

[funkydude]

Again, it is not a leap year. I don't know where this simple fact is being lost.

[nikanthpromod]

i have a problem with opera 11 ... i added adsweep to it... It worked for me for some time.. Then i reinstalled win xp due to some reason..then i installed opera and added adsweep.. Now its not working.. i added some more extensions ..but nothing worked ... is that a bug??

[nanana1]

-{ Quote: "Given the speed of RC builds releases, the final version will be available before Feb 29th as I had earlier mentioned.;)

Opera 11.01 RC2 Build 1190 (http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/blog/2011/01/26/opera-11-01-rc2) is released for testing.:thumb:


This is a second Release Candidate for Opera 11.01 final with further crash fixes and fixes for installer errors on Windows Vista and Windows 7.

This snapshot has been placed on the Windows and Mac auto-update server. We'd appreciate feedback on how that works. Remember however that you will need to enable opera:config#AutoUpdate|DownloadAllSnapshots. *puppy*

Windows (http://snapshot.opera.com/windows/rc2_11.01-1190/Opera_1101_1190_int.exe)
Mac (http://snapshot.opera.com/mac/rc2_11.01-1190/Opera_11.01_1190.dmg)
Linux/FreeBSD (http://snapshot.opera.com/unix/rc2_11.01-1190/)" }-

Speedy development : Likely Opera RC2 Build 1190 will be released as 11.01 final version within 24 hours. Stay tuned.8)

[firzen771]

-{ Quote: "Speedy development : Likely Opera RC2 Build 1190 will be released as 11.01 final version within 24 hours. Stay tuned.8)" }-

i really do like Opera, the interface and everything is def my favourite, but too many crashes when dealing with multiple tabs and some website incompatabilities just made it too much of a hassle to use.

hope someone makes an Opera 11 theme for firefox now ;D

[nanana1]

-{ Quote: "Speedy development : Likely Opera RC2 Build 1190 will be released as 11.01 final version within 24 hours. Stay tuned.8)" }-

Final Opera 11.01 release to be within hours now as the final versions have been loaded on their servers now.;D

[nanana1]

-{ Quote: "When majority of the reported bugs are fixed and it should happen before Feb 29th.;)" }-

As I have correctly predicted, Opera 11.01 goes final today ;D and before Feb 29th ;)

Enjoy this final release.8)