Migrated OS to SSD closed discussion.

[tolis6146]

Hi all i have install the program on win7 its works very fast i make clone the hard disk 37 gb on 11 minute ;D ;D on 1 start up wiht new drive i find it need elot time , all working perfect nice program

[hardwarekritiker]

Hi,

the first error was the email that i´ve recieved.
The serialnumber and the product key have changed the correct order.
So in that case i´ve typed in at the first :
serial number and then the product key
The installer wants at first the product key and then the serial number.

But then, there are no other errors on my system at the installation:
Intel Quadcore , 8 GB Ram, Win7 64 Bit.

Best regards
hardwarekritiker

[Mo62]

Under Virtual PC, I made a copy of a XP system with Paragon Migrate program
to create one another system.
In some minutes, it works fine.
Faster than backup/restore partition.

[liston]

Hi every body
I have installed this software on win7 standard netbook 10" screen with a 160gb hard drive 2gb memory, will list the drives as follows from 1-4 for ease.

1 c: drive
2 second drive I made with paragon hard drive manager 9.5
3 a brown partion 12gb healthy recovery
4 102mb healthy system

Once installed I migrated my system to a usb WD 500gb it only took 11 minutes to do the whole netbook.

I will now try to install from my usb WD 500gb and will post what happens ok.

[ZamZam]

Hello,
Not wanting to post my experiences in a thread which someone else has started, I decided to add my own thread here to make things easier if replies are posted.
Here are my experiences and comments:

configuration and OS setup:
Intel core 2 quad, 2.5 ghz, 4 GB RAM, windows 7 32-bit.
hard disks: 70 gig partition (source drive), SATA
destination 80 gig (IDE)

Paragon migrate OS to SSD:
Note: I never had a chance to review the guide which was part of the E-mail, as it was not in the correct format to read. Upon opening the zip archive that I downloaded, I had access to a whole lot of xml data and pictures rather than a docx file which the link indicated.
Note: I also make use of a screenreader (a program converting text on screen to speech output) so, if I make suggestions with regard to where things can be improved it would be helpful for future users like myself to use the product without any problems.
Nevertheless, after the welcome screen I was quite hesitant to continue as I was greeted by this warning message:
Delete bootable partition?Bootable partition is about to be deleted. Your computer may no longer boot
correctly.
As the source partition is not going to be replaced, I therefore think that this message is rather unnecessary, and should be left out.
Not being afraid of anything, I went ahead an clicked yes.
I then got asked what folders it was that I would like to have copied.
and for this part, things were rather inaccessible when it comes to the screen reader. I had to press on the text which then brought up a window where I could select various folders, this window too was also rather inaccessible.
My suggestions are to make the "please select what folders should be copied" a simple button which can then be identified by the screenreader.
with regard to the window where one can browse for folders to be copied it should be like a simple treeview as well.
Upon clicking on the copy button, I got asked whether to format the disk.
If it can be implemented, being able to select a partition to migrate too would be really nice rather than just having a disk to migrate to.
However, I do like the fact that this program only copies the primary partition where windows is installed and not any other partitions on the disk.
After ticking the box that would format the disk and clicking on next, here's where the problem comes in when using a screenreader.
Somehow the program crashes, displaying an error like:
apart of paragon utilities has caused a problem. The program will now close."
I went through the whole process again, and just before clicking on next, unloaded the screen reader and clicked next. And the process started to happen.
It was quite fast seeing that I had 26 gig to copy.
Once the process was completed, a very informative message was displayed However, you might want to take a look at the English as there were some minor spelling errors.
Booting up:
I then disconnected the primary hdd and booted up to the drive I migrated too.
It took quite some time before things seem to be normal to do anything. But once things were normal, I could go about running my various programs just fine.
I then decided to reboot hoping that things would be abit faster during boot-up as well as loading of programs at startup, however, I did have to wait some time before things were normal again.
I'm not sure whether its because this is an IDE HDD but I recall in another topic under this forum a user experiencing something similar However, his was only at the first startup.
If it can be done, you might want to take a look at somehow improving the boot-up time.
back to the primary hdd:
disconnecting the migrated hdd and connecting the source hdd, I got the message which had been displayed once migration was completed.
I feel this too, is unnecessary as it is displayed when migration innitially completes. However I did like the option not to show this message again.
Other suggestions:
this program would have been really nice if it were portable as the migrated hard disk doesn't then need to have the program installed on it.

Appoligies for such a long post, I do hope my input was helpful.

Regards,

[liston]

Hi
I have tried to restore from my usb 500gb wd drive but been unable to do it, this is what i have done so far.

During startup pressed F2 went into bios moved my usb drive to the first slot and saved restarted my netbook, nothing windows just starts up as normal.
when windows starts I get a message saying how to get your system to boot from your usb.

I will have to see what I have done wrong tomorrow will post more information tomorrow. bye 4 now

[ZamZam]

Hi,

Another suggestion...
Can there not be an option to ask the user whether the drive letter should be removed before user decides to restart the pc?
Incase, the user has forgot and just remembered whilst the process has started to copy a file/folder.
Also, I've noticed that when I connect the target drive with the source, windows does not reassign a drive letter to the migrated drive.
Perhaps it can be implemented as well?

And one more thing...
The name of this program innitially made me think it was for SSD drives only until I read its features. Maybe you might want to take a look at making the name more versatile?
Regards,

[stoopgj]

Hi,

The main advantage of an SSD is its speed, the main disadvantage is its cost per Gb, so it should be used for the OS and for programs, not necessarily for data. Therefore a small SSD, even as small as 32 Gb, will do the job, providing a second hard drive, internal or external, is available for your documents, pictures, video, music, etcetera.

However, the OS and the program files are normally on a (much) larger hard drive, and migration from a large drive to a small one is not as easy as the other way around (which can simply be done by creating an image of the original drive and restoring it to the larger drive).

So, the main (if not the only) 'raison d'être' (reason for being) of this program is exactly THAT capability : migration from a larger drive to a smaller one, therefore THAT process should be the main focus of this review, BUT ALSO OF THE USERS GUIDE, not a migration from a smaller drive to a larger one.

I migrated Win7 64 bit from a Western Digital 320 Gb hard drive (that came with my laptop) to an OCZ Vertex 64 Gb SSD in a HP Pavilion dv7 laptop with 2 hard drive slots. I included all my users and program files, a total of 22 Gb. It took just over 12 minutes. Afterwards I simply swapped the drives, started up the laptop from the SSD and it all worked flawlessly. Start up is much much faster now and programs start instantly. I use wiper.exe to 'refresh' the SSD, that works fine too.

An added advantage is that I still have the original OS on my WD drive, so if my computer ever refuses to start, all I have to do is swap the drives and I'm in business. Obviously I would not have any programs or updates that happened after today, but for that I use Paragon Backup and Recovery 10 to make weekly images of my C: drive (takes about 8 minutes).

Good luck,

GJS

[liston]

Hi their
I have backed to a usb wd 500gb and everything is fine it only took 11 minutes to back up c: drive my problem is that when I go to restore from my usb drive it wont restore at all.

I go into the bios section then into boot I have placed my usb drive as first place save then reset. It then goes into windows own restore which isent right I have tried all the drives in my boot section and none of them work at all.
My netbook is a acer one with no cd-rom.

I am going to give up trying to use my wester digital drive and us a other one to see whats happens.

What I cant understand is when you back up it tells you what drive to pit first in the bios so it works but it just isent for my wd 500gb.

[Mech_An]

Liston,

Windows can't boot from USB drive. It is Windows specific restriction, because USB drivers are loaded later than OS.

Migrate to SSD allows to COPY system partition to another HDD. But it doesn't change anything inside Windows.

Migrate to SSD is designed for migration to new HDD, which means that your internal drive will be replaced with copy.

[Oxford_Al]

Hi All
Software downloaded and installed, SSD arrives tomorrow.
2 points so far
1. The software identifies and offers alternative destinations to migrate the OS to eg WD external HDD and also 2nd internal HDD, so not SSD specific.
2. No option to add shortcuts to desktop during the installation process, which might be quite useful.
I'll be back with more once the SSD arrives.

[Maeghas]

Program installed under Win 7 64-bit. Seems to run fine. I don't have any SSD's so I may need to get one to test that out.

One feature I would like is to have Migrate OS to SSD recognize partitions. I wanted to test from one drive's partition to another drive's, but it only sees the drive capacity, not the partitions. I realize in the case of an SSD at this point, partitions aren't practical, but with HDD's I would like that option.

More to come as I experiment.

[mickiem]

Hi
On a multi-boot rig, when trying to copy active [in use] or inactive win7 ult 64 partitions getting a crash when the app goes to Calculate Copy Size -- copying XP Pro SP3 32 works fine. I've got Paragon logs 7-zipped if you want them, but FWIW I didn't see anything. Copying win7 partitions from XP seems OK too. Windows error logs show:

"Unexpected failure. Error code: 490@01010004"

&

"Faulting application name: migrateos.exe, version: 10.0.15.12255, time stamp: 0x4ca3d8a7
Faulting module name: qtp-mt334.dll, version: 3.3.4.10, time stamp: 0x4ca3cb66
Exception code: 0xc0000005
Fault offset: 0x000765a5
Faulting process id: 0xbc8
Faulting application start time: 0x01cb65ac700e135e
Faulting application path: C:\Program Files (x86)\Paragon Software\Migrate OS to SSD\program\migrateos.exe
Faulting module path: C:\Program Files (x86)\Paragon Software\Migrate OS to SSD\program\qtp-mt334.dll
Report Id: bae077ff-d19f-11df-9c4a-001fe26a9e3b"

Thanks,
mike

[mickiem]

Not deal breakers but things noticed so far...

Email ID/Key lines reversed -- was already mentioned in another thread.

McAfee Internet Security 2010 in Win7 Ult 64 -- opening dialog to turn off Real-Time scanning while Migrate OS to SSD was running/copying, McAfee's window is blank.

Progress bar & time estimated were pretty badly off, even when I wasn't expecting much accuracy to begin with.

Pagefile.sys etc. -> No option to exclude & wasn't automatically excluded.

**May** have some icon prob?... Only one that doesn't have transparency in 7's XP Mode VM.

Seems to trigger AV software more than other Paragon software, e.g. Backup apps.

Testing in bare bones XP Mode VM on ~8 GB .vhd, copying to 2nd, 65 GB .vhd, surprised to see target .vhd size expanding.

Will not recognize/see Dell KACE virtual drive mounted. Other Paragon apps will.

[Mech_An]

mickiem

Could you please send me LOGs and System info from your 2 Win7 systems (in private message, please)?
To save system info:
* open Start\Programs\Accessories\System Tools\System Information;
* choose the "Save" option in the "File" menu ,
* enter the "File name" and set the field "Save as type" to "System Information File (*.NFO)";
* send us the saved file.

maybe the reason is in SW compatibility.

[Mech_An]

Oxford_Al
1. Migrate to SSD could be used for migration to ANY smaller drive, not only SSD.
2. It should create shortcut automatically. Sounds strange that it did not.

Maeghas
1. You can test Migrate to SSD with any HDD you have, because it is not hard linked to SSD drives.
2. To check what HDD to use, you can open Windows Disk Management
* right-click on 'My computer' - 'Manage'
* select 'Disk Management' in 'Storage'
View Disks & partitions and select desired HDD to copy your System.

[randompc]

Running for an hour so far with minimal feedback - just the elapsed time bar labelled "Migrating ntfs-c (C:)"

The "Total estimated time left 00:11:15" message ought to specify whether it's in hours:minutes:seconds if it's going to be inaccurate enough that we have to wonder. (The estimate just keeps going up.) I assume it's hh:mm:ss but since nothing seems to be happening for a long time I'm unsure (honestly unsure, not yanking your chain(s)). The bottom line is more feedback would be nice, i.e. number of files counted if that's happening, # bytes transferred, etc.

I am attempting move a very simple configuration from HD to SSD: single 60Gb C: drive to a single 120Gb OCZ Vertex 2 SSD. Unfortunately I'm using a USB 2 cable since my just-arrived PCMCIA eSata card seems to be completely DOA. (It's made by Rosewill ... 3 strikes and they're out!) The HD was originally formatted under Vista or XP by the laptop manufacturer, then upgraded with a full "Custom install" of Win7, so there is no Win7 recovery partition. I sure hope this Paragon product aligns the SSD partition properly!

More feedback when/if the transfer completes. (By the way, on the same machine and USB cable, a Win7 OS built-in system imaging backup took about 10 minutes last night, I think. Don't hold me to that, but at least it seemed much quicker and/or kept me reassured that it hadn't died.)

Windows 7 Home Premium
Toshiba M700 laptop - 4Gb RAM

= = =
OK - it worked! Longer than I expected, but everything seems to be running fine. And to answer my own implied question, yes, it did align the partition correctly ... 1048576 byte offset for the one and only partition, i.e. 2048x512 ... it's partition type 7, which is, I believe, what it started as, and the Win7 bootloader happily loads it up. (I didn't mention above, but this laptop was previously triple booting Win7 and 2 versions of Ubuntu under grub2 ... the Win7 partition was the first one and all I hoped/expected would be converted to SSD. Ubuntu will be relegated to a VM for my upcoming trip, then I'll see about doing the reverse.) Thanks, Paragon!

[epworth2]

Migrated 250 gig drive to 200 gig with no known issues.
Migration time was 1.4 hrs,which may seem excessive but there was a great deal of data.The program may include compression on large drive to smaller,which would account for the added time involved.

Thank You

[pps07com]

I did my test, today.
I migrated my Win7-32 from IDE(PATA) to one SCSI, and the new HDD booted without problems.
But when I reboot to my IDE the SCSI Hdd was missed, because, the Disk Manager do not know the letter and the system inside. 100% free space.
This is not correct.

I tried to read the Guide before use, but the download zip file has only xml files, not a DOCX file, those I can not read.

My suggestions are:
% done bar
% completed task bar
some kind of animation like a pie chart to shows that is not freeze.
Time passed and correct time left.

My full operation costs 20 minutes, not 14:20 minutes, and all time the time left is showing few seconds.

I installed and uninstalled without error.

Thanks.

[rcarlini]

The link included in the email seems bad to me.
It links to a zip file that does not have any .doc(x) files in it.
I hate getting off to this kind of start.
Below is a snippet from the welcome email.

Download Reviewer’s Guide for Paragon Migrate OS to SSD (English) component:
-http://docs.paragon-software.com/PSG194/PSG194_PE/Guides/PSG-194-PEE-GU.docx-

[Mech_An]

Sounds strange, I just tried the link and it works fine. The results is *.docx file.

[Burki]

Just migrated DELL PE2800 SCSI RAID Array to eSATA (SIL3124) attached SSD (OCZ Vertex2 120GB) and it worked on the first go (W3k3 64Bit). The Diver for the SIL had already been loaded before, seems that the boot.ini has been modified automatically for the missing Utility Partition. I'm impressed.
Will try to move my DELL Latitude E6500 W7 x64.

[mickiem]

Sorry -- yesterday & today I get "The private messaging system is currently unavailable." I've got the nfo & the changed logs after the 1st error (1st time I used the app) so hopefully not a lot of extra garbage to parse, & they 7-zip down to 41 & 9KB respectively.

Also I was not clear, didn't explain in my earlier post that I dual boot into XP Pro SP3 32 & 7 Ult 64, with a 3rd option being an old 7 ult 64 beta install I haven't booted into for 9 months or so [I've kept it in case I get around to copying over some mods & software installs I was playing with, as I haven't needed the disk space it takes up]. *If* it will still run I'll try booting into it to see if Migrate OS to SSD runs.

I've got more tests planned for later today, for example I've found that in a win7 ult 32 trial VM I often use for testing & monitoring that Migrate OS to SSD threw disk errors when I tried to use it uninstalled [i.e. just copying nec. files over], but ran & worked OK if I did the regular install. I had monitored install already, but only where something else from Paragon was also installed -- maybe if I monitor install in this *virgin* win7 VM it'll show me something that's missing from win7 ult 64 causing prob? Otherwise I didn't see anything at all added to the registry during the install that should matter.

I've also done a full backup of 7 so I can try eliminating drivers & services in case there are some compatibility issues there, though I do have Roxio Creator 2010 installed, & I've never found a way to eliminate their CD/DVD/BD drivers.

And while I realize this is likely quite a stretch, in the past I've used the WinPE-like LiveXP to run Paragon apps (usually just to restore a backup), but have had problems getting some to run in a new LiveXP build. However I haven't tried, haven't had to try running them on this PC that way before. I'm guessing the 2 main possibilities are either Paragon's changing the way they use the QT/Trolltech stuff, &/or, there's something funky about this rig, maybe with the drives? I want to try playing some more with that stuff, & who knows, maybe I'll find something?...

Thanks,
mike

[mickiem]

-{ Quote: "Migrated 250 gig drive to 200 gig with no known issues.
Migration time was 1.4 hrs,which may seem excessive but there was a great deal of data.The program may include compression on large drive to smaller,which would account for the added time involved.

Thank You" }-
FWIW if it helps, my guess is that if/when you change to a smaller drive/partition Paragon's apps [have to?] handle things a bit differently, e.g. if you restore a backup to a smaller partition it takes noticeably longer.

[smoss20]

How timely can Paragon be? I recently started using their Back & Recovery program only to be impressed at every turn.

I purchased an SSD 2 days ago, read many forums & downloaded numerous tools. Sadly, nothing worked! I could NOT boot from that new drive unless the old one was present. I added the Bootmgr, NdLdr, Boot.sys. anything else I found on a thread!!

I get home from work today ready for another long night of torment & in my eReader is the link to this!!!

5 Minutes later, I'm booting from the SSD & my machine just got Turbo!! I'm sure this may sound a little over-the-top, but the timing was inspire! And the name behind it, Paragon, assured me my new little drive would be soaring in no time. Not one problem, misstep, trip up, or stumble!!

Thanks for everything Paragon,

SMoss20

Devoted fan !

P.S. How it worked: I had already purged my main drive of all the files & folders that were not programs. Deleted iTunes & M.S. Office 2010, page file & swap file. I wanted to keep it compact.
- Followed tutorial, edited Bios boot order & done!! This is worth the money to any Power User!!

[honvl]

I'm crashing in Win7 Ult 64 too. I checked only the Windows folder to move to my SSD. Debug shows its some sort of access violation error.

Faulting application name: migrateos.exe, version: 10.0.15.12255, time stamp: 0x4ca3d8a7
Faulting module name: hdm.dll, version: 10.0.15.12255, time stamp: 0x4ca3cf80
Exception code: 0xc0000005
Fault offset: 0x0025bb08
Faulting process id: 0x580
Faulting application start time: 0x01cb6688d600265a
Faulting application path: C:\Program Files (x86)\Paragon Software\Migrate OS to SSD\program\migrateos.exe
Faulting module path: C:\Program Files (x86)\Paragon Software\Migrate OS to SSD\program\hdm.dll
Report Id: 844cdccf-d27d-11df-a929-08002700005a

[honvl]

Crashing during calculate copy size as well. Takes a while to crash.

[mickiem]

After more testing...
Copying XP Pro 32 to .vhd works, but not copying win7 64 -- both seem to work copying to a *real* drive. For me at least, when copying win7 if you select a real drive, things seem to go as planned -- when you select a .vhd as the target, it fails at the very beginning of the "Calculating copy size..." stage. And as copying the OS to a .vhd may be outside the purpose of the app as-is, it may not be an issue worth pursuing.

On the PC I used so far for testing, the 1st [boot] partition has XP Pro SP3 32 installed, with 7 64 on a 2nd partition of the same drive. I didn't get any crashes running Migrate OS to SSD in win7 32 VBox VMs. As best I can tell there are no conflicts with running software, with the exception of McAfee Internet Security 2010 -- I know that while Migrate OS to SSD is running in 7 64, opening the McAfee window results in that window being blank. Short of completely removing McAfee I don't know of a way to fully disable it -- turning off Real-time Scanning has no effect. I was able to boot into the 7 64 beta (installed to a 3rd partition on the 1st drive) & everything worked exactly the same way (it crashed just the same), so the non-hardware drivers I was concerned about I don't think are causing the crash. Using AutoRuns to turn off non-essential drivers & services had no effect, & neither did running 7 64 in Safe Mode. In XP Pro SP3 32 I installed vhdmount (from the Microsoft Virtual Server 2005 R2 SP1), & experience the same failure copying 7 64 to a mounted .vhd. Tests in a XP Pro 32, Windows Virt PC VM, & in a couple of Win7 32 VBox VMs, worked properly. FWIW monitoring install in a *virgin* win7 32 VBox VM, there doesn't appear to be anything missing from my regular win7 64 installation.

I haven't gone much further because I don't know if working with .vhd targets is a concern or totally outside the purpose of the app [& thus more-or-less irrelevant]. If requested I could migrate a win7 32 install from VBox to Windows Virtual PC, & testing there I suppose might hint at whether the problem has to do with Windows mounting of a .vhd vs the .vhd format itself. I could also try it on a 7 64 system with 7 installed to the 1st partition, &/or possibly try any other suggestions if you thought it might be useful for you. [i.e. Paragon].

[mickiem]

Suggestions...

If you elect not to copy a lot of the disk/partition contents, "Calculating copy size..." is slowwww... hours slow... I'd *guess* because of the way file includes/excludes seems to be written to fdisk.txt -- Disk speed doesn't seem an issue as access isn't constant, e.g. like when copying files. CPU use in XP Pro SP3 32 is ~50% with 1 core of an AMD quad carrying most of the load -- better multi-threading *If* possible might help. Some sort of progress bar or indicator would be *very* welcome, & a Cancel button would be even nicer. BTW, it threw me when the cancel button did not work once copying started -- you get a message that it's not safe to stop(?!)... scratch my suggestion -- & maybe get rid of the Cancel button during Copy -- if canceling the process can't work.

[Purely FWIW, right now if I wanted to exclude a lot of files/folders while copying/migrating a Windows install to a smaller drive, it's much faster to copy a partition or restore a Paragon-created backup image to another partition on a real or virtual drive -> delete whatever files/folders -> downsize the partition -> then use Paragon software to copy that partition normally, use P2V, or use Migrate OS to SDD.]

Also I was thinking that if/when someone's just adding a SSD to supplement their existing HDD(s), it can make sense to mount & connect everything beforehand, but if they're swapping any drives it might make more sense &/or be more convenient to use an external dock 1st, swap later -- docks are pretty cheap & with USB 3, not that slow. With appropriate warnings that Windows isn't designed for USB booting as-is, it might be a welcome feature to include USB drives with Migrate OS to SSD.

[Oxford_Al]

Hi All
Well I'm not sure what's happening with my migration! The first stage was fine, the sotware informed me that I needed to reduce the amount of data to be copied over so I selected the Windows program file and very little else to migrate. 7 hours later and I am still viewing a "calculating copy size" message, which when I try to stop I receive another message telling me "sorry for the inconvenience, it's not safe to stop the program now". Obviously I am going to have to try and force a close down but if anyone could give me a clue as to where I went wrong I would be very grateful. Right now it would have been much quicker to have done a clean install so it's a tad frustrating.
I have now forced the program to close and the only information I received back was that "part of the paragon software has stopped responding", no kidding! I have checked the SSD (OCZ Vertex E2 60Gb) and nothing has been written to it.
FYI - Win 7 64bit Home premium, Intel E8400, 4Gb DDR3, Hitachi 500Gb HDD, Gigabyte GAP35C-DS3R mobo.

[Libin]

My system: Windows 7 64bit Ultimate on Disk 0 1st partition, which is 100GB and 52.5GB used.
Copy to target: Disk 1 1st partition, which is 60GB and have same version Win7 installed. I want to overwrite this partition for this test.

I started this Migrate tool, select my running Win7 as source.
The tool asked me 'Delete bootable partition'? I selected 'No'.

Immediately, the tool showed me the error message: Cannot copy OS to target disk. ......The following error has occurred: 0x10091

Please see the attached screen shot.

[Mech_An]

Libin

Migrate OS asks if you want to delete bootable partition on target Hard Disk (Disk1). As you press No, migration is canceled with the error.

To start migration, run Migrate OS again, select your Windows (C:/), select Disk1. When message to delete bootable partition appears, click Yes. Confirm operation and migration process will start.

Note: target HDD will be completely wiped before copying. All 3 partition you have on Disk1 will be deleted.

[Libin]

Hi Mech-An,

Thanks for your quick reply.

1,
So this is my misunderstanding: I think it is going to delete the source partition(after copying).
And I suggest the dialog box prompt more clearly: All data on the target disk(including the bootable partitioin) will be deleted.

2,
Is it possible to just delete the target partition but not the all disk?
For my case, if I answer 'Yes', the all data on my 'Disk 1' will be lost. This must be a disaster :isay:


Libin


-{ Quote: "Libin

Migrate OS asks if you want to delete bootable partition on target Hard Disk (Disk1). As you press No, migration is canceled with the error.

To start migration, run Migrate OS again, select your Windows (C:/), select Disk1. When message to delete bootable partition appears, click Yes. Confirm operation and migration process will start.

Note: target HDD will be completely wiped before copying. All 3 partition you have on Disk1 will be deleted." }-

[Mech_An]

Unfortunately, Migrate OS doesn't allow to keep any data from target HDD.

If you won't delete all partition from Disk1, the best way is to use another drive as target.

[Plitv001]

Same Win7 64-bit. Crash during the Calculating Size screen. The wheel spins for sometime and end up back at the Cannot copy OS to target disk screen.

The size of my windows, program files and program files (x86) should fit on my 64gb ssd.

Please assist. Log files attached as a zip to this post.

[Plitv001]

The private messaging system is currently unavailable.

[Mech_An]

Plitv001,

Could you please insert attachment link in your message (it is shown as ****** next to uploaded file). Then it will be available for download.

[Plitv001]

Too much sophistication for me. Here is a link to the file from my public dropbox folder. :)

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3366085/Migrate.zip

[Mech_An]

Thank you, Plitv001.
According to LOG files, second attempt was aborted by user. Did you get warning that bootable partition will be deleted? Did you click No?

Could you please also provide system info:
* open Start\Programs\Accessories\System Tools\System Information;
* choose the "Save" option in the "File" menu ,
* enter the "File name" and set the field "Save as type" to "System Information File (*.NFO)";
* send us the saved file.

It should contain error details.

[nextech]

Installed just fine on Win7 64bit Ultimate.

System setup:
OS Name Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate
Version 6.1.7600 Build 7600
Other OS Description Not Available
OS Manufacturer Microsoft Corporation
System Manufacturer Dell Inc.
System Model Precision M4400
System Type x64-based PC
Processor Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Extreme CPU X9100 @ 3.06GHz, 3067 Mhz, 2 Core(s), 2 Logical Processor(s)
BIOS Version/Date Dell Inc. A23, 7/30/2010
SMBIOS Version 2.4
Windows Directory C:\Windows
System Directory C:\Windows\system32
Boot Device \Device\HarddiskVolume1
Locale United States
Hardware Abstraction Layer Version = "6.1.7600.16385"
Installed Physical Memory (RAM) 4.00 GB
Total Physical Memory 3.99 GB
Available Physical Memory 1.94 GB
Total Virtual Memory 4.24 GB
Available Virtual Memory 2.11 GB
Page File Space 256 MB
Page File C:\pagefile.sys

Drive C: SSD
Description Local Fixed Disk
Compressed No
File System NTFS
Size 238.38 GB (255,954,251,776 bytes)
Free Space 180.20 GB (193,493,217,280 bytes)

First test ran today. Trying to migrate C: to a non partitioned 300Gb esata drive.

Initial thoughts when running the interface for the first time. Started migration proccess and the GUI is pretty straight forward up until the Total estimated time left counter. It shows (00:00:00). Not sure if this is (HH:MM:SS) or (DD:HH:MM) ? At time of writing it shows (00:03:48 ) with the progress bar about 3/4 of the way done. Would also like to see some type of information to show that the program has not frozen. Unclear at its current build. Will post more when first migration is complete.

Ok it looks like the progress meter is in (HH:MM:SS) total time to migrate was (00:17:17). Here is the result before rebooting.

From:

Description Disk drive
Manufacturer (Standard disk drives)
Model C300-CTFDDAC256MAG
Bytes/Sector 512
Media Loaded Yes
Media Type Fixed hard disk
Partitions 2
SCSI Bus 0
SCSI Logical Unit 0
SCSI Port 0
SCSI Target ID 0
Sectors/Track 63
Size 238.47 GB (256,052,966,400 bytes)
Total Cylinders 31,130
Total Sectors 500,103,450
Total Tracks 7,938,150
Tracks/Cylinder 255
Partition Disk #0, Partition #0
Partition Size 100.00 MB (104,857,600 bytes)
Partition Starting Offset 1,048,576 bytes
Partition Disk #0, Partition #1
Partition Size 238.38 GB (255,954,255,872 bytes)
Partition Starting Offset 105,906,176 bytes

To:

Description Disk drive
Manufacturer (Standard disk drives)
Model ST3300831AS
Bytes/Sector 512
Media Loaded Yes
Media Type Fixed hard disk
Partitions 2
SCSI Bus 0
SCSI Logical Unit 0
SCSI Port 0
SCSI Target ID 3
Sectors/Track 63
Size 279.46 GB (300,066,439,680 bytes)
Total Cylinders 36,481
Total Sectors 586,067,265
Total Tracks 9,302,655
Tracks/Cylinder 255
Partition Disk #9, Partition #0
Partition Size 100.00 MB (104,857,600 bytes)
Partition Starting Offset 1,048,576 bytes
Partition Disk #9, Partition #1
Partition Size 238.38 GB (255,954,255,872 bytes)
Partition Starting Offset 106,954,752 bytes

[Plitv001]

I attempted to do it from scratch about 6 times. Selecting Program Files and Windows folder and sometimes not.

Regardless, I still got that spinning wheel and not enough space on drive. (The windows folder and program files folders together are still way smaller than the ssd).

First time I clicked "No" on deleting bootable partition. The 2 attempts following that I clicked "Yes".

The system info file is in the zip folder.

[dmtulsa]

System info: Win 7 x64 ult. HD 500gb SSD Crucial 128gb

Ran the migration program and it found the SSD. I selected directories to migrate, windows & users and the files in the root.

Clicked ok and it sit on a "Calculating copy size" for over an hour. By reading other post this should not be happening.

Doug

[dmtulsa]

Ok, I started it again and instead of selecting what to copy I just clicked on the copy button.

Looks like this is going to take a few hours (all night). Problem is, If I wanted to copy everything I could just restore the backup disk image I made using windows so there is no need for the Paragon software at all in this case.

I just want to migrate my OS but as I said in the last post it gets stuck on the "Calculating copy space" screen, over an hour till I had to use the task manager to kill the program.

If something is going to take hours the program should say so.

So far nothing has worked..guess thats why its beta.

[dmtulsa]

Ok, after doing a straight copy (no folder selections) just click on the copy button, it seems to work. 18 min to copy some 82gb.

But thats not what I wanted it to do. I wanted it just to migrate the OS but as I said in the prior post if I selected what to migrate it stays in the "calculating space" screen for ever.

Also I changed the BIOS to boot from the SSD and it booted from the old HHD. I had to unplugg the HHD to boot from the SSD. That may be a different issue.

So far: I give the software a Zero since I could have done the same thing with Windows restore image.:thumbd: :thumbd:

Doug

[dmtulsa]

I'd really like to help out since I think this could be a great program.

I'm willing to do this all again from the start(wipe out the SSD) and send in any log files needed. But there is no use in doing that until I can get past the Calculating Copy Size" screen.

So, I need instructions on how to proceed.

BTW where do I send the files?

Doug

[Oxford_Al]

I had exactly the same problem, I have posted a comment on the "Paragon migrate OS to SSD my review" thread but no answer as yet. It would have been quicker to do a clean install but I too wish for a program like this to be available and work without too much hassle

[dmtulsa]

Well after going to all the trouble of setting up the adoption program I would hope they read these forum messages and respond at least once a day but once an hour would be better. Its hard to ask people to test software if they have to wait days for a replies when they have an issue.. Really there should be a tool free contact number. That way they could get the info first hand in real time.

I'm not trying it again unit they tell me what I need to do. Tried it half dozen times already, I know it does work correctly.

As I said this could be a great product for them.

Doug

[abeasley]

I've attempted to run this program several times but keep getting stuck on the screen that says "Calculating copy size...". I'm copying from dual raptors in raid 0 under Windows 7 ultimate to a OCZ Vertex 2 60gb. Since the drive is smaller than my raptors I have to select only part of the files but when I do so I get stuck on that screen, eventually coming back to the screen saying I don't have enough space and has size of everything selected. I have verified the folders I have selected are less than the size of the hard drive.

Any ideas?

Thanks,

Adam

[abeasley]

I was able to get past that problem by turning off Hibernation and Moving my Swap file another drive. It's in the process of Migrating now.

[dmtulsa]

I have the same problem

This may be a stupid ? but where was your swap file? I only have the original HHD and the SSD so once I find the swap file where do I move it to?

Thank You
Doug

[Paragon_MA]

-{ Quote: "I have the same problem

This may be a stupid ? but where was your swap file? I only have the original HHD and the SSD so once I find the swap file where do I move it to?

Thank You
Doug" }-

It is in root of C: drive. How much data are you going to exclude?
And to remove the page file or move it to another drive right click on My Computer - Properties - Advanced System settings - Performance - Settings - Advanced.

[dmtulsa]

I'm excluding about 80% of 82GB I only want to migrate the OS,users and program files. It stayed on the "calculating copy size" for over an hour.

Where do I move the swap file to? or do I need to do that.

Doug

[abeasley]

You can also turn off your swap file through the same menu. I had two drives on my system already so I just moved it.

It took 44 minutes to move about 50gb of data. I'm not home so I can't reboot to verify it was successful but it's looking promising.

[abeasley]

I'm guessing the problem is that it doesn't take into account the page file or the hibernation file when it lets you select which folders to transfer. By removing those two they won't come into play durring the transfer process.

[dmtulsa]

Thanks. I turned both off. I'm making another system image now. Then I'll restore to a clean HHD. Boot from it and clean the SSD and then try again. Too bad each of these steps can be a few hours.

Doug

[dmtulsa]

Is there a preferred way to use an SSD? Is it best to have only the OS on it or put as much as you can on it?

I'm thinking to put the OS,USERS, Documents & Settings, program files and frequently used programs not in program files. All other data would stay on the HHD

Is there a better way?

Maybe a guide could be added to the 3 page manual

Thanks
Doug

[PParent]

Successfully migrate Win 7 Ultimate to another HD. Interface user friendly. Clear program dialogs. Very smooth migration. :)

[Paragon_MA]

Thanks for feedback!

[Paragon_MA]

-{ Quote: "Is there a preferred way to use an SSD? Is it best to have only the OS on it or put as much as you can on it?" }-
Best if you have only OS on it. In this case you use SSD drive for read operations in most cases and thus prolong its life.

-{ Quote: "I'm thinking to put the OS,USERS, Documents & Settings, program files and frequently used programs not in program files. All other data would stay on the HHD" }-
Good plan.

-{ Quote: "Is there a better way?" }-
No.

-{ Quote: "Maybe a guide could be added to the 3 page manual" }-
We will consider this in further development of the tool.

[Paragon_MA]

-{ Quote: "Thanks. I turned both off. I'm making another system image now. Then I'll restore to a clean HHD. Boot from it and clean the SSD and then try again. Too bad each of these steps can be a few hours.

Doug" }-

Normally it does not take such long to exclude files from copy. Looks like you have many files in small chunks and estimation of them plus working over the file exclusion takes much time. Be patient a bit.

[Paragon_MA]

Hello Doug and Oxford_Al, could you please give more details on the amount data you were trying to exclude? What type of files and what is the common size them?
And most important - how many files there are to be excluded?
It would be nice to get log data from you both as well.
Many thanks for your patience and cooperation.

[Paragon_MA]

-{ Quote: "After more testing...
Copying XP Pro 32 to .vhd works, but not copying win7 64 -- both seem to work copying to a *real* drive. For me at least, when copying win7 if you select a real drive, things seem to go as planned -- when you select a .vhd as the target, it fails at the very beginning of the "Calculating copy size..." stage. And as copying the OS to a .vhd may be outside the purpose of the app as-is, it may not be an issue worth pursuing.

On the PC I used so far for testing, the 1st [boot] partition has XP Pro SP3 32 installed, with 7 64 on a 2nd partition of the same drive. I didn't get any crashes running Migrate OS to SSD in win7 32 VBox VMs. As best I can tell there are no conflicts with running software, with the exception of McAfee Internet Security 2010 -- I know that while Migrate OS to SSD is running in 7 64, opening the McAfee window results in that window being blank. Short of completely removing McAfee I don't know of a way to fully disable it -- turning off Real-time Scanning has no effect. I was able to boot into the 7 64 beta (installed to a 3rd partition on the 1st drive) & everything worked exactly the same way (it crashed just the same), so the non-hardware drivers I was concerned about I don't think are causing the crash. Using AutoRuns to turn off non-essential drivers & services had no effect, & neither did running 7 64 in Safe Mode. In XP Pro SP3 32 I installed vhdmount (from the Microsoft Virtual Server 2005 R2 SP1), & experience the same failure copying 7 64 to a mounted .vhd. Tests in a XP Pro 32, Windows Virt PC VM, & in a couple of Win7 32 VBox VMs, worked properly. FWIW monitoring install in a *virgin* win7 32 VBox VM, there doesn't appear to be anything missing from my regular win7 64 installation.

I haven't gone much further because I don't know if working with .vhd targets is a concern or totally outside the purpose of the app [& thus more-or-less irrelevant]. If requested I could migrate a win7 32 install from VBox to Windows Virtual PC, & testing there I suppose might hint at whether the problem has to do with Windows mounting of a .vhd vs the .vhd format itself. I could also try it on a 7 64 system with 7 installed to the 1st partition, &/or possibly try any other suggestions if you thought it might be useful for you. [i.e. Paragon]." }-

Hello Mike,

I just confirmed with developers that migration of OS to vhd drive is not the functionality of this tool and thus has never been tested.
The utility is live hard drives (SSD and HDD) oriented and proper work of it on virtual machine not guaranteed.

[Paragon_MA]

-{ Quote: "I attempted to do it from scratch about 6 times. Selecting Program Files and Windows folder and sometimes not.

Regardless, I still got that spinning wheel and not enough space on drive. (The windows folder and program files folders together are still way smaller than the ssd).

First time I clicked "No" on deleting bootable partition. The 2 attempts following that I clicked "Yes".

The system info file is in the zip folder." }-

Could you please tell us the size of data you want to exclude and common size of the files? How many files there are in sum?
Also your latest logs were not published here. Please post them or open a support ticket in our online support service. You can send log data via it.

[Paragon_MA]

-{ Quote: "I did my test, today.
I migrated my Win7-32 from IDE(PATA) to one SCSI, and the new HDD booted without problems.
But when I reboot to my IDE the SCSI Hdd was missed, because, the Disk Manager do not know the letter and the system inside. 100% free space.
This is not correct.

I tried to read the Guide before use, but the download zip file has only xml files, not a DOCX file, those I can not read.

My suggestions are:
% done bar
% completed task bar
some kind of animation like a pie chart to shows that is not freeze.
Time passed and correct time left.

My full operation costs 20 minutes, not 14:20 minutes, and all time the time left is showing few seconds.

I installed and uninstalled without error.

Thanks." }-

Thank you for feedback.

[Oxford_Al]

Hi Paragon_MA
I did uncheck a lot of program files because I just wanted to move the OS and then add programs as necessary. My HDD with Win 7 installed on it currently has around 250Gb used and so moving to a 60Gb SDD was obviously going to require some pruning! Would be happy to provide you with a log file, but where would I find that and would it exist seeing as I had forced the program to close?
To ensure a clean move of the OS do I just need to check the Program files/Windows directory and do I need to include the config files etc that reside on the C: drive?
Thanks for any extra info re: the above.
Regards
Alan

[dmtulsa]

70 GB to migrate

OK, Last night I wiped out the SSD and started over. This time I started the program and selected what to migrate. When it got to the "Calculating Copy Size" Screen I went to bed after a couple hours. This morning it said it was going to migrate 70gb and I need to restart my computer. I restarted and it went to a Paragon DOS like screen. After an hour I went to work. Maybe it will be done by the time I get home today.

I understand this is beta software but it needs to work much much faster. When I did a full copy it took only 18 minutes

I'll report on the status as I can
Thank you
Doug

[dmtulsa]

I understand. Just wish there was a message that said this may take a few hours or some progress bar with time. I know its beta software and these thins will be added in time.
Thank you

[dmtulsa]

Thank you,

I think this will be a good product once its speeded up a bit.

Doug

[vhick]

I decided to try it now the new Paragon Migrate OS to SSD Early Adopter Program. i receive an invitation last week and decided to try now but the download link say "Your download link has expired." Even if I log-in to my account to download the software, it gives me this error.

Please give me fresh download link to try it this software.

Thank you very much...

[dmtulsa]

Continuing last post. Got home and everything looked ok. The message said to change boot drive in BOIS which I did. It still booted off the HHD. So I unplugged the HHD and booted off the SSD....NO OS installed.......:gack:

Hooked back up the HHD and booted into windows. Checked the SSD with Paragon Hard Disk Manager and it said the SSD was not even Formated.:thumbd: :thumbd: :thumbd:

Sorry but this is totally useless to me. I'll just do a fresh windows install and be done with it.

[dmtulsa]

the "copy" works and is FAST but if you "exclude any files" plan on spending hours and then is DOES NOT WORK. No OS or partition on SSD if you look at the SSD with Hard Drive Manager 2010.

The fastest best way to move to a SSD is COPY all using the migration OS-SSD. Then use a FREE program call "app mover" to move all programs/ directories / files ect.. that you tried to exclude in the first place with OS-SSD to the HDD of your choice....This takes about an hour total. It also fixes the registry so Windows knows were you moved things too.

AND ITS FREE..........IT WORKS and ITS FAST compared to the Paragon software.

Sorry I really wanted this to work out but with the little feed back....supper slow, unacceptability slow software, I have to look for a better way.

I found it and its FREEWARE

I know its beta but if this is a big companies best shot at beta...........I feel sorry for you. If you want my log file please email me...make the effort and send me an email and I will gladly send them to you. I'm wasting no more time on this sorry

[Paragon_MA]

-{ Quote: "the "copy" works and is FAST but if you "exclude any files" plan on spending hours and then is DOES NOT WORK. No OS or partition on SSD if you look at the SSD with Hard Drive Manager 2010.

The fastest best way to move to a SSD is COPY all using the migration OS-SSD. Then use a FREE program call "app mover" to move all programs/ directories / files ect.. that you tried to exclude in the first place with OS-SSD to the HDD of your choice....This takes about an hour total. It also fixes the registry so Windows knows were you moved things too.

AND ITS FREE..........IT WORKS and ITS FAST compared to the Paragon software.

Sorry I really wanted this to work out but with the little feed back....supper slow, unacceptability slow software, I have to look for a better way.

I found it and its FREEWARE

I know its beta but if this is a big companies best shot at beta...........I feel sorry for you. If you want my log file please email me...make the effort and send me an email and I will gladly send them to you. I'm wasting no more time on this sorry" }-

Could you please collect the log data from your last test and upload them here? I am interested in STUBACT.log file.

[Paragon_MA]

-{ Quote: "I decided to try it now the new Paragon Migrate OS to SSD Early Adopter Program. i receive an invitation last week and decided to try now but the download link say "Your download link has expired." Even if I log-in to my account to download the software, it gives me this error.

Please give me fresh download link to try it this software.

Thank you very much..." }-

Simply re-register using different email address and get new download link.

[Paragon_MA]

-{ Quote: "Hi All
Well I'm not sure what's happening with my migration! The first stage was fine, the sotware informed me that I needed to reduce the amount of data to be copied over so I selected the Windows program file and very little else to migrate. 7 hours later and I am still viewing a "calculating copy size" message, which when I try to stop I receive another message telling me "sorry for the inconvenience, it's not safe to stop the program now". Obviously I am going to have to try and force a close down but if anyone could give me a clue as to where I went wrong I would be very grateful. Right now it would have been much quicker to have done a clean install so it's a tad frustrating.
I have now forced the program to close and the only information I received back was that "part of the paragon software has stopped responding", no kidding! I have checked the SSD (OCZ Vertex E2 60Gb) and nothing has been written to it.
FYI - Win 7 64bit Home premium, Intel E8400, 4Gb DDR3, Hitachi 500Gb HDD, Gigabyte GAP35C-DS3R mobo." }-

Oxford_Al, how much data and number of files were you going to exclude?

[Lacko50]

Configuration 1:
Intel i7 quad, 2.6 GHz, 6 GB RAM, Windows 7 64-bit (US English).
Source hard disks: internal 750 GB 4-disk RAID5 with dedicated controller (Promise)
Destination: internal 32 GB IDE OCZ SSD

I bought a new SSD, explicitly for testing this Migrate OS to SSD SW. It was never used before, but worked perfectly: I could read and write data there. So I went ahead with testing the new Paragon SW.

After the welcome screen I received a warning message, that the destination disk will lose all its data. I clicked on Next.

The SW started to analyze my system, and automatically selected the destination drive (there was just one drive other than the boot disk) and told me that there was not enough space on the target for everything (360 GB data) on my source drive.

I then chose to select which directories to copy in the next "Change copy options" window. I selected only the Windows directory, 19.6GB, because I wanted to migrate the OS to the new disk, not other programs or data.

It would also be useful to get a button for going back a screen, but the SW has none.

I have hundreds of directories, which have to be manually deselected. It is quite a tedious task, which could be improved with buttons for "select all", "deselect all", and allowing Shift click to de/select a series of directories/files from the highlighted one to the directory under the cursor.

The next window tells that the SW is "Calculating copy size..."

Unfortunately, the Migrate OS to SSD program hangs there. It only shows rotating tear drops, but does not finish in 4 hours. I tried with unformatted destination disk and formatted one, with the same result.

Then I tried to close the program, but it only told that it was not safe to close, and it would close as soon as possible. It continued to show the rotating tear drops, but never quit. At least not in another couple hours. I had to shut it down from the Task Manger, which told me that part of the Paragon SW is not responding, but finally killed it.


Then I tried another system

Configuration 2:
Intel Core 2 duo, 3 GHz, 8 GB RAM, Windows 7 64-bit.
Source hard disks: internal 150 GB SATA
Destination: internal 1.5 TB SATA

Again, I only wanted to move the Windows directory to the new disk. Everything repeated as in Configuration 1: the Migrate OS to SSD program hanged at Calculating copy size... I had to use Task manager the kill the not responding SW.

[vhick]

thank you very much. I'm downloading right now. I gonna test it later. ;)

[RayZZor]

Do you have a 2-3 years old notebook (Windows Vista, dual core processor, HDD) having only one bay for an internal disk? In this case you may have wondered whether you should buy a new, up-to-date notebook (Windows7, maybe Intel Core i3/i5/i7 processor) having a SSD, or if you can upgrade the old one by exchanging the HDD by a SSD.:doubt:
This was my situation some weeks ago. My guess was that the upgrade would allow to keep my old notebook (ASUS V1S) for at least another year without beeing annoyed by its relatively low performance.
The main hurdle for the upgrade (beside the costs of the SSD) was the migration of the system partition from the HDD to the new SSD. I bought the SSD (OCZ Vertex2) without being sure about the best option for the migration.:doubt: At this time, I was not aware of "Paragon Migrate OS to SSD" and I was frightened by the risk I have to take when using some "hacker tools" (like Clonezilla) to do the job.:wacko:
Before starting the migration, I mounted the SSD in an eSATA housing and connected it to my notebook. Since still being unsure about the software to use, I searched again for an alternative to Clonezilla. I was happy to find the professional, user friendly Paragon Windows software and immediately decided to perform the migration with this tool.:D
To my surprise, the migration was perfectly smooth and quite fast. There are only a few minor issues that should be improved (e.g. the manual, the progress indication etc.), but nothing really serious.8)
So far, I observed no problems with the OS (Windows Vista Business 32bit), Windows Office (Outlook, Word, Excel, and Powerpoint) or any of my other applications. The speed of the SSD is impressive: The boot time is approximalely divided by two; PDF documents are displayed almost immediately; all applications are starting and reacting much faster.:thumb:
:isay: My recommendation: "Paragon Migrate OS to SSD" should be supplied with any SSD sold to end users.:D :thumb: :D :thumb:

[handzel]

Paragon Migrate OS to SSD. The program works well only problem is the lack of their own choice on the destination disk partition.

[Paragon_MA]

-{ Quote: "Paragon Migrate OS to SSD. The program works well only problem is the lack of their own choice on the destination disk partition." }-

Thank you for feedback. This tool is mainly designed for users who want to migrate their OS to SSD drive. In future for different products we will implement all the requested features. But sure the product will have different name and goal.

[Paragon_MA]

Many thanks for your feedback.

[Paragon_MA]

-{ Quote: "thank you very much. I'm downloading right now. I gonna test it later. ;)" }-

You are always welcome

[dfan]

I am unable to complete the installation. The file referred to in the error message is Paragon's installer .msi

http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/8792/installh.png
(error message screencap)

Please help me get a working version of this program since I need to move my OS!

[Cudni]

in case the original upload was corrupted, download again and retry. What AV is in use?

[dfan]

I'll try re-DL.

Avira (no warnings from AV)

[dfan]

That got it!

The original DL must have gotten corrupted...

[dfan]

The migration went smoothly but for the "time remaining" counter which started at 1 second and got to about 7 seconds before I ignored it entirely.

Better to start at an arbitrary number (1min/GB?) and count down ;D

Otherwise smooth as could be!

[Paragon_MA]

-{ Quote: "The migration went smoothly but for the "time remaining" counter which started at 1 second and got to about 7 seconds before I ignored it entirely.

Better to start at an arbitrary number (1min/GB?) and count down ;D

Otherwise smooth as could be!" }-

This is a known bug and we are going to fix it.
Thank you for your report.

[Paragon_MA]

-{ Quote: "Configuration 1:
Intel i7 quad, 2.6 GHz, 6 GB RAM, Windows 7 64-bit (US English).
Source hard disks: internal 750 GB 4-disk RAID5 with dedicated controller (Promise)
Destination: internal 32 GB IDE OCZ SSD

I bought a new SSD, explicitly for testing this Migrate OS to SSD SW. It was never used before, but worked perfectly: I could read and write data there. So I went ahead with testing the new Paragon SW.

After the welcome screen I received a warning message, that the destination disk will lose all its data. I clicked on Next.

The SW started to analyze my system, and automatically selected the destination drive (there was just one drive other than the boot disk) and told me that there was not enough space on the target for everything (360 GB data) on my source drive.

I then chose to select which directories to copy in the next "Change copy options" window. I selected only the Windows directory, 19.6GB, because I wanted to migrate the OS to the new disk, not other programs or data.

It would also be useful to get a button for going back a screen, but the SW has none.

I have hundreds of directories, which have to be manually deselected. It is quite a tedious task, which could be improved with buttons for "select all", "deselect all", and allowing Shift click to de/select a series of directories/files from the highlighted one to the directory under the cursor.

The next window tells that the SW is "Calculating copy size..."

Unfortunately, the Migrate OS to SSD program hangs there. It only shows rotating tear drops, but does not finish in 4 hours. I tried with unformatted destination disk and formatted one, with the same result.

Then I tried to close the program, but it only told that it was not safe to close, and it would close as soon as possible. It continued to show the rotating tear drops, but never quit. At least not in another couple hours. I had to shut it down from the Task Manger, which told me that part of the Paragon SW is not responding, but finally killed it.


Then I tried another system

Configuration 2:
Intel Core 2 duo, 3 GHz, 8 GB RAM, Windows 7 64-bit.
Source hard disks: internal 150 GB SATA
Destination: internal 1.5 TB SATA

Again, I only wanted to move the Windows directory to the new disk. Everything repeated as in Configuration 1: the Migrate OS to SSD program hanged at Calculating copy size... I had to use Task manager the kill the not responding SW." }-

Thank you for your report.
Could you please tell us if you do not exclude files in second case (copy to 1.5TB drive) does it hang the same way like in first case?

[Lacko50]

> tell us if you do not exclude files in second case (copy to 1.5TB drive)
As I wrote "I only wanted to move the Windows directory to the new disk", that is, I deselected everything, only the Windows directory remained. It means 25GB selected of the 100GB used space on the 150GB boot disk.

> does it hang the same way like in first case?
Yes. It shows that the crash was not caused by the destination drive, but by the file selection process.

[Paragon_MA]

-{ Quote: "> tell us if you do not exclude files in second case (copy to 1.5TB drive)
As I wrote "I only wanted to move the Windows directory to the new disk", that is, I deselected everything, only the Windows directory remained. It means 25GB selected of the 100GB used space on the 150GB boot disk.

> does it hang the same way like in first case?
Yes. It shows that the crash was not caused by the destination drive, but by the file selection process." }-

thank you for update. All the information has been forwarded to our developers. The process of exclude is being worked with currently. We are researching possible ways of improvement.

[Lacko50]

When you get an (even experimental) fix, please send it to me. I'd give it a try.

[Paragon_MA]

-{ Quote: "When you get an (even experimental) fix, please send it to me. I'd give it a try." }-

Will do for sure.

[Oxford_Al]

Hi
I would like to post the log files created by this program but I have searched my C: drive and nothing has been created. Is this because I killed the program during the never ending "calculating size" step?
Perhaps something could be provided in the instructions about to how to move just the OS onto a clean drive and maybe a "de-select all" option so that the task of unselceting all the unnecessary folders can be speeded up.
I will have another attempt at this but if I run into the same problem it might also be my last attempt.
Thanks
Al

[Maeghas]

I also had problems during the Calculating step but I let it run overnight and it did eventually get to the Migration stage. However, that is as far as I got. The program seems not to go any farther. Note: I am running 64-bit Windows. Please see my posts under Questions For Early Adopters regarding my efforts.

If there are any files created during the process, you will find them in the Migrate OS to SSD program file structure (usually in Program Files (x86) on the system drive). I don't know if any of the necessary files are created if you cannot get past the Calculating stage, but there are files available if you can get past it.

Note: fdisk.log is much too large to upload to this forum. But the others, if you can locate them, should be within the limits.

[Maeghas]

Please remember this isn't even a Beta test. You can't be impatient with an Alpha-type program and give it thumbs down just because it didn't work one or two times. From the posts I've seen in this sub-thread you would think the reviewers had put down big money for the program.

The purpose of the Early Adopter test is to get constructive feedback. The attitude of "I can't spend any more time on this, sorry" is just not thorough testing philosophy. I won't be able to test this program any more than I already have at the moment, but I await an improved version to see if anything gets worked out.

[mwarnerii]

I had the same problem. I think it has to do with how many files are in the partition you pick as the source partition. It seems to me that it did not matter how many files I select from the partition. My Windows XP partitions had over 60,000 files each. I then converted my virtual images of Windows into real partitions. I ended up performing a clean install of Windows XP to get a Windows partition that I can use as the source without waiting for an eternity.

[Phitar]

I'm having the same problem. I get a zip file that contains xml. Tried this on two pc's and get the same thing.

[Paragon_MA]

-{ Quote: "Please remember this isn't even a Beta test. You can't be impatient with an Alpha-type program and give it thumbs down just because it didn't work one or two times. From the posts I've seen in this sub-thread you would think the reviewers had put down big money for the program.

The purpose of the Early Adopter test is to get constructive feedback. The attitude of "I can't spend any more time on this, sorry" is just not thorough testing philosophy. I won't be able to test this program any more than I already have at the moment, but I await an improved version to see if anything gets worked out." }-

Thank you for your feedback. We are working over the file and folder exclude problem at the moment and going to fix all the problem we met in this early adopter program.

[Paragon_MA]

-{ Quote: "70 GB to migrate

OK, Last night I wiped out the SSD and started over. This time I started the program and selected what to migrate. When it got to the "Calculating Copy Size" Screen I went to bed after a couple hours. This morning it said it was going to migrate 70gb and I need to restart my computer. I restarted and it went to a Paragon DOS like screen. After an hour I went to work. Maybe it will be done by the time I get home today.

I understand this is beta software but it needs to work much much faster. When I did a full copy it took only 18 minutes

I'll report on the status as I can
Thank you
Doug" }-

Sorry for the inconveniences it caused to you. The fact that system asked for restart indicates that there were locked files on SSD drive or your OS had stopped VSS service.
To get the clear result it would be nice to delete all partitions on SSD, check via Windows services if Microsoft VSS service is started and run the migration.
This way it must work (even if calculation takes longer).

[Paragon_MA]

-{ Quote: "Hi
I would like to post the log files created by this program but I have searched my C: drive and nothing has been created. Is this because I killed the program during the never ending "calculating size" step?
Perhaps something could be provided in the instructions about to how to move just the OS onto a clean drive and maybe a "de-select all" option so that the task of unselceting all the unnecessary folders can be speeded up.
I will have another attempt at this but if I run into the same problem it might also be my last attempt.
Thanks
Al" }-

Oxford_Al, we are considering the way to disable exclude of system folders that should shorten the calculation time and ensure the user that OS will be migrated properly.

[Paragon_MA]

-{ Quote: "I'm having the same problem. I get a zip file that contains xml. Tried this on two pc's and get the same thing." }-

Do you use Office 2007? The problem you report indicates that Microsoft Word 2003 is used to open this document. And dosx file is opened by Office 2007-2010 only.

[jrgeoffrion]

Although the name "Migrate OS to SSD" is "descriptive", I do think that it is restrictive. It, implicitely, removes anyone who just wants to migrate to another (larger or faster) hard drive as well as those that would like to "just" backup their OS.

So, my recommendation would be to use the "Migrate OS to SSD" as a tag line... and think of another name...

[Migrator]

Software description unclear. It states "since" windows Xp. Does that include
Xp or does it mean later than Xp?

I run a dual-boot Xp+Win7 i.e. 2 partitions on one drive (500GB)

I wish to migrate both partitions to a single OCZ 240 GB Bigfoot drive
preferably in one single operation.

So far there is no indication if or how this can be done.

Also there is not enough information on setting the correct SSD offset to
maximize SSD performance-or will this be automatically done by the software.

Any help will be appreciated.

[Migrator]

I believe that Paragon could have done better in conceptualizing this software. This is potentially a killer app and could make a smsll fortune if it provides what users actually need.

Paragon already has most of the tools and this application needs to be redesigned as follows:

1) The application should boot from cd or usb-the tools are there.
2) The application should find the SSD and initialize it.
3) The application should offer partitioning and quick ntfs formatting including
setting the starting offset for SSD drives-so that all ssd drives will perform
well.
4) Partitioning of the new ssd in percentage terms should be possible.
5) Copy of partitions/entire disks including disks with several partitions should
be possible-it already is using several tools.
5) The option to keep existing drive letters/volume names and letters should
be present.
6) If the data cannot fit in the partitions of the new SSD only then should the
Windows install be done to remove suggested folders until it can fit.
7) All the above is already possible using several tools and Paragon already
has most of what is needed.
8) There is a huge market for an application as outlined above-possibly for
the next 4-5 years until SSDs become larger and cheaper.
9) The SSD manufacturers are seeking and will purchase licences for the
application if it makes migration simple and foolproof as outlined above.

I simply cannot understand why Paragon and its competitors do not understand what users want in a single application.

The verdict of early users and experts will make or break this application.

I know that an opportunity is being missed here.

[tzippi]

I migrate an Windows 7 Professional to an SSD. Partition size was 500Gb, used 56Gb. Migrate to an 240Gb SSD on USB3 Connection, failed with IO error. When i used the internal sata the program running trough without errors. But booting stops with winload error: File is not signed, please use Recovery Disk. After repair the sytem is running well.

[linuxman2010]

I have to say this worked like a charm! I copied a 160GB SATA Disk to a 60 GB SSD without and issue. Good job Paragon!

[a_302]

The review guide gave me a clear view of what to expect. I liked the fact that I was able to choose what files I wanted to copy over.
My computer was running Windows Vista Ultimate 64-bit SP2 on a WD Caviar Blue 320 GB, SATA 3 Gb/s, 16 MB Cache, 7200 RPM drive. I used a USB 2.0 IDE/SATA adapter kit to connect the OCZ Vertex Series OCZSSD2-1VTX120G drive.
The time it took was very short. I'm sorry I did not write down the exact time it took. However it took around 40 minutes when I used it to copy the drive to another WD Caviar Blue 320 GB, SATA 3 Gb/s, 16 MB Cache, 7200 RPM drive.
Both times I used the product, the process was completed error free and target drives booted the computer without a problem.
The partition copied was 120GB with 75GB in use.

[Paragon_MA]

-{ Quote: "The review guide gave me a clear view of what to expect. I liked the fact that I was able to choose what files I wanted to copy over.
My computer was running Windows Vista Ultimate 64-bit SP2 on a WD Caviar Blue 320 GB, SATA 3 Gb/s, 16 MB Cache, 7200 RPM drive. I used a USB 2.0 IDE/SATA adapter kit to connect the OCZ Vertex Series OCZSSD2-1VTX120G drive.
The time it took was very short. I'm sorry I did not write down the exact time it took. However it took around 40 minutes when I used it to copy the drive to another WD Caviar Blue 320 GB, SATA 3 Gb/s, 16 MB Cache, 7200 RPM drive.
Both times I used the product, the process was completed error free and target drives booted the computer without a problem.
The partition copied was 120GB with 75GB in use." }-

Thank you for your feedback.

[Paragon_MA]

-{ Quote: "I have to say this worked like a charm! I copied a 160GB SATA Disk to a 60 GB SSD without and issue. Good job Paragon!" }-

Thanks for your feedback!

[Paragon_MA]

-{ Quote: "I migrate an Windows 7 Professional to an SSD. Partition size was 500Gb, used 56Gb. Migrate to an 240Gb SSD on USB3 Connection, failed with IO error. When i used the internal sata the program running trough without errors. But booting stops with winload error: File is not signed, please use Recovery Disk. After repair the sytem is running well." }-

Can you connect the USB3 drive to USB2.0 interface and try there? Also please open a support request with this issue. We will track it down.

[pszilard]

-{ Quote: "I have to say this worked like a charm! I copied a 160GB SATA Disk to a 60 GB SSD without and issue. Good job Paragon!" }-
Glad it worked for you. Can you explain what happens with the "excess" files that are not migrated across?

Are all Program Files get moved, or only Windows? If only Windows what happens to apps.

In either case, does the tool change any pointers, which used to point to C: and now have to point to another drive letter?

I am interested to find out so I can make use of this in a number PCs.

Thanks in advance,

[Paragon_MA]

-{ Quote: "Glad it worked for you. Can you explain what happens with the "excess" files that are not migrated across?

Are all Program Files get moved, or only Windows? If only Windows what happens to apps.

In either case, does the tool change any pointers, which used to point to C: and now have to point to another drive letter?

I am interested to find out so I can make use of this in a number PCs.

Thanks in advance," }-

Hello Paul,

you cannot exclude from copy system files such as Windows folder, Program Files, Document & Settings, Users. But you can easily get deselected the data inside of Users folder (the Downloads, My Music, My Videos etc) that is not system data or user profile data.
Next version of the tool going to have important files disabled for selection. Thus user could boot correctly from copied system.

[Paragon_MA]

-{ Quote: "Software description unclear. It states "since" windows Xp. Does that include
Xp or does it mean later than Xp?

I run a dual-boot Xp+Win7 i.e. 2 partitions on one drive (500GB)

I wish to migrate both partitions to a single OCZ 240 GB Bigfoot drive
preferably in one single operation.

So far there is no indication if or how this can be done.

Also there is not enough information on setting the correct SSD offset to
maximize SSD performance-or will this be automatically done by the software.

Any help will be appreciated." }-

Current version will migrate only one OS. Multiboot configurations are not supported yet. And yes, it does support XP and newer OS.
The tool aligns system partition to 1024 offset automatically thus no additional alignment is needed.

[Paragon_MA]

Hello friends,

many thanks for your feedback and discussion on Paragon Migrate OS to SSD tool. Thus I am collecting this into one thread in order to close the discussion in this very thread.

[Paragon_MA]

Dear Early Adopter,
We truly appreciate your participation in Paragon Early Adopter Program!
We’ve just released updated version of the component in accordance to received feedback. Migrate OS to SSD is no longer available as a free download and can be purchased for $19.95 via our website.
As Early Adopter you will receive this updated version for free.
Email with download links and registration info for the software will be sent to you today from eservice@paragon-software.com.
If you do not receive a confirmation email from us, please check your spam, bulk or junk mail folders. If you find the email there, your ISP or your own software spam-blocker or filters are diverting our e-mail.
Best regards,
Paragon Software team.
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